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RedDragon
12/13/2009, 16:35
LEND A DINO:#When an adjacent friendly character makes a close combat attack against a single opposing target, if Gertrude Yorkes and Old Lace are also adjacent to that target they can make a close combat attacke against that target as a free action.

so if i'm understanding this you can make a attack using her BCF right?

2nd. can you also chose the option to use her duo attack instand also?

Quebbster
12/13/2009, 16:39
LEND A DINO:#When an adjacent friendly character makes a close combat attack against a single opposing target, if Gertrude Yorkes and Old Lace are also adjacent to that target they can make a close combat attacke against that target as a free action.

so if i'm understanding this you can make a attack using her BCF right?
Wrong. B/C/F only activates when the figure is given a close combat action.
2nd. can you also chose the option to use her duo attack instand also?
Nope. That requires a power action.

Basically Lend A Dino is like Hand Ninja's From The Shadows... you just do your printed damage value.

SLVRSR4
12/13/2009, 17:00
It is STILL quite useful, though. They can attack pretty much every turn under the right circumstances.

Daky
12/13/2009, 17:08
Now Think about this.
Is this legal?

Gert and old lace are next to someone who uses a flurry attack, or a duo attack.

Can the free attack activate one both swings?

They are both attacks not actions.

I don't see why not, its a free action.

What do you out there think?

lancelot
12/13/2009, 17:10
Now Think about this.
Is this legal?

Gert and old lace are next to someone who uses a flurry attack, or a duo attack.

Can the free attack activate one both swings?

They are both attacks not actions.

I don't see why not, its a free action.

What do you out there think?

Good one, I'd think you can bite twice, once after each Flurry whether they hit or not.

nbperp
12/13/2009, 17:18
Basically Lend A Dino is like Hand Ninja's From The Shadows... you just do your printed damage value.

Just for clarity, it is not necessarily your printed damage. You can perplex their damage and the modifier would still apply.

Regarding Flurry, yes, this power activates off of each ATTACK, not off each ACTION. One action = 4 attacks (2 for the Flurry and 2 from the Dino).

Batmandu
12/13/2009, 17:35
So they not only look cool on the same team, but there's actually some synergy to teaming them up with Devil Dinosaur & Moon Boy..?

Awesome.

Shadow Giant
12/15/2009, 11:37
me thinks deadly stuff is afoot. awesome.

Puuka
12/15/2009, 12:04
So, in an example like this, could she make up to 7 attacks? (Assuming there were 5 actions available)

XXXX
146X
2GOX
357X
XXXX

1,2,3 = Giants
4,5,6,7 = Regular figures
G = Gertrude & Old Lace
O = Opponent.
So, 1-7 all can make a close combat attacks against O.

Would Gertrude get an attack after each one? I don't see any "Once per turn"

With her other power, Armor Piercing would be ideal for her.
Just need to team her up with with a Defend character. Jakeem Thunder (Another Teen) would give a nice 18 Defense or Shadow Cat, Shadow Lass (17 Defense teens) Colossal Boy would also give you a Giant that can attack over her as I suggest above.

SLVRSR4
12/15/2009, 12:12
So, in an example like this, could she make up to 7 attacks? (Assuming there were 5 actions available)

XXXX
146X
2GOX
357X
XXXX

1,2,3 = Giants
4,5,6,7 = Regular figures
G = Gertrude & Old Lace
O = Opponent.
So, 1-7 all can make a close combat attacks against O.

Would Gertrude get an attack after each one? I don't see any "Once per turn"

With her other power, Armor Piercing would be ideal for her.
Just need to team her up with with a Defend character. Jakeem Thunder (Another Teen) would give a nice 18 Defense or Shadow Cat, Shadow Lass (17 Defense teens) Colossal Boy would also give you a Giant that can attack over her as I suggest above.

What about Giants...WITH FLURRY? NOW YOU'RE TALKING!!!

normalview
12/15/2009, 12:14
So, in an example like this, could she make up to 7 attacks? (Assuming there were 5 actions available)

XXXX
146X
2GOX
357X
XXXX

1,2,3 = Giants
4,5,6,7 = Regular figures
G = Gertrude & Old Lace
O = Opponent.
So, 1-7 all can make a close combat attacks against O.

Would Gertrude get an attack after each one? I don't see any "Once per turn"

Right. Assuming you had 7 actions to attack 7 times, you could activate the power 7 times in response (or more, even, if Flurry or Duo attack are involved). Still, if you need more than 14 attacks to KO a single character, you may have more important issues at hand...

SLVRSR4
12/15/2009, 12:17
Right. Assuming you had 7 actions to attack 7 times, you could activate the power 7 times in response (or more, even, if Flurry or Duo attack are involved). Still, if you need more than 14 attacks to KO a single character, you may have more important issues at hand...

Like the fact that you're using that much Setup to maximize Gertrude and Old Lace?

Puuka
12/15/2009, 12:19
Sometimes setting it up is half the fun.

Though, if you had a Flying Avenger with Tbolts to GL and then Pym Particles, there's most of your back line taken care of.

anonym0use
12/15/2009, 12:22
It's good, but IMO Arsenic is better. I was working on an article featuring G&OL and realized that Arsenic applies to figures that move adjacent to, but not necessarily stop adjacent to the dino.

So a figure like Air Walker who HSS's past G&OL to try and hit a figure behind the duo, would get nipped for 1, drop out of HSS, and end their action before making an attack.

Now I suspect most times, when this would come up, the player who moved close enough to G&OL would likely ask to take their action back, and it would never come into play. Still, a neat form of board control.

nbperp
12/15/2009, 12:49
Now I suspect most times, when this would come up, the player who moved close enough to G&OL would likely ask to take their action back, and it would never come into play. Still, a neat form of board control.

Or you play indoors on, say, the Prison Map where map control could be huge.

Iago
12/15/2009, 13:05
If she weren't a unique two GY&OLs adjacent to each other and an enemy would trigger each other's dino lending "infinitely"...

(I'm imagining two Gertrudes based with an opponent with invulnerable - triggering a Lend a Dino loop that would go until a critical hit pierced the defense or enough critical misses KOed a Gertrude.)

nbperp
12/15/2009, 13:12
If she weren't a unique two GY&OLs adjacent to each other and an enemy would trigger each other's dino lending "infinitely"...

(I'm imagining two Gertrudes based with an opponent with invulnerable - triggering a Lend a Dino loop that would go until a critical hit pierced the defense or enough critical misses KOed a Gertrude.)

Yeah - if that door ever opens, I would expect to see something on GY/OL saying that it would be once per action. The 2 would still chain, but it would be limited to one each. (And this wouldn't hurt Flurry attackers since the Flurry action contains 2 close combat actions, each with its own attack)

EDIT: What I meant to say: (And this wouldn't hurt Flurry attackers since the Flurry action contains 2 close combat attacks, each within its own free action)

normalview
12/15/2009, 13:14
(And this wouldn't hurt Flurry attackers since the Flurry action contains 2 close combat actions, each with its own attack)


Tsk... tsk...

Flurry is one close combat action with two free attacks ;)

Lend A Dino would ineed still work, though, since it activates on close combat attacks, not actions.

Daky
12/15/2009, 13:27
I think this would work but I want a 2nd opinion.

Using Zoom and his Hypersoninc Flurry power.
Would Gert and Lace's Lend a Dino Trigger. I believe it to be so. I cannot see why it would not work.

Harpua
12/15/2009, 13:28
I think this would work but I want a 2nd opinion.

Using Zoom and his Hypersoninc Flurry power.
Would Gert and Lace's Lend a Dino Trigger. I believe it to be so. I cannot see why it would not work.

It should trigger twice (four total attacks), but if you have my luck, you'll roll doubles on the first attack.

normalview
12/15/2009, 13:29
I think this would work but I want a 2nd opinion.

Using Zoom and his Hypersoninc Flurry power.
Would Gert and Lace's Lend a Dino Trigger. I believe it to be so. I cannot see why it would not work.

They are close combat attacks, no?

It will work just fine.

normalview
12/15/2009, 13:32
It should trigger twice (four total attacks), but if you have my luck, you'll roll doubles on the first attack.

Better that than 4 crtical misses.

nbperp
12/15/2009, 13:33
Fixed to say what I meant. Thanks normalview.

Daky
12/15/2009, 13:41
Such a nice piece too bad her defense is so bad. Maybe I can sidekick her with DD&MB and share his DV?

normalview
12/15/2009, 13:49
Such a nice piece too bad her defense is so bad. Maybe I can sidekick her with DD&MB and share his DV?

Sure, that could work.

Gigas
12/15/2009, 13:52
Gertrude + Duo would be alot of fun to exploit that special ability...It's too bad Devil Dinosaur has battlefury.

normalview
12/15/2009, 13:54
It's too bad Devil Dinosaur has battlefury.

What's that got to do with pairing DD&MB with GY&OL?

Puuka
12/15/2009, 14:16
What's that got to do with pairing DD&MB with GY&OL?

But he's got Battle Fury. What doesn't it have to do with it???




;)

SLVRSR4
12/15/2009, 15:42
It's too bad option two of Hypersonic no longer exists. Then you could REALLY get into how effective lend a dino could be.

normalview
12/15/2009, 15:46
It's too bad option two of Hypersonic no longer exists. Then you could REALLY get into how effective lend a dino could be.

I don't have an old copy handy at the moment, but if I remember right, even though you (theoretically) rolled many times, it was all one single attack; once you missed or decided to stop the damage was added up and dealt in one big lump sum (within the rule of 3, of course).

Daky
12/15/2009, 17:35
So who else can be on a Dino team?
I played DD+MB last week in a zero range event. I used vampirism on him and he stayed healthy for my 1st two games.
Add old Lace
Sauron
Who else is Dinoish?

Rurouni KJS
12/15/2009, 17:48
I think they're the only three, unless you consider Indy's Saurian Trooper as properly dino-mite. (I don't, despite the name.)

Daky
12/17/2009, 20:57
Ok so SFBULL came up with a sick number for me.
It is possible under the right circumstances for GY&OL Lend a Dino to Trigger 14 times in one round against a single target. Of course that target would have to endure 28 Attacks!!!

SICK!