View Full Version : 600pt. haha funny. not so funny now is it, team!!!
after a long hiatus, im back. just took a look at HoT and oh my god. almost every single piece can destroy. so i cooked up a cool unrestricted team. 600 pts.
zoom aa-protected-icwo
pip the troll hot
cpt. america hot-t.bolt-protected-icwo
v. lockjaw aw
v. hawkeye aw-t.bolt-
le antman ic-t.bolt
v. quicksilver ic
le roy harper junior leg
r. jean grey ic
v. medic aw?
le hydra operative 716-c.plan
and 5 pts. remaining
the idea is to tk zoom all beefed up and smash the front line. choosing the target is key. i usually go for the heavy ranged atkers or ow's, if any. next, i send pip down there to try and finish someone. then i carry cpt. america somewhere safe with lockjaw, but within striking distance next turn. then i group them with hawkeye and antman to share the defense(t.bolt avengers to defenders). thats five moves. one c. plan token. my opponents turn will be consumed by dealing with zoom and pip who have based the majority of their team. odds are in your favor if youve taken care of ow. your next turn should be to push zoom outta there if he survived. send in some shooters. use cap to running shot his special power all over their faces. after that, tk roy down and rs. if necessary, push hawkeye to tie up any loose ends. move in lockjaw to base anybody that's a threat to cap if needed or move quicksilver in to base later turns. should be easy if you struck well the first and second volley. otherwise... good luck. this team isnt built for longevity. it needs to hit hard and fast in order to survive. that's why i have the basers on the bill. to soak up the dmg you dont want to take with your atkers. lack of dmg reducers kinda bites but thats the sacrifice you pay for speed. 6-0 record with this team. i was also thinking of lightning lad and ambidextrous. triple ee with rs and 10 rg. broken. especially if youve based the majority of the team, already.
i was also thinking of lightning lad and ambidextrous. triple ee with rs and 10 rg. broken. especially if youve based the majority of the team, already.
This would not work since the pre-req requires you to have only one :bolt:
oops. youre right. haha. whatd be a good sub for cap? i want to take advantage of this feat. preferably something with rs, ee, and around 50 -70 pts.
Doctor Diesel
12/21/2009, 09:43
Biggest problem for that team is that you no longer can share Ant-Man's defense through T-Bolting to Defenders. The character 'giving away' his Defense Value must have the printed symbol on his dial.
Other than that you sure have few pieces on a 600 point team from Hammer of Thor considering you think that "almost every single piece can destroy." :p
Also, not being a theme team it would be seriously nerfed by an opponent playing Poor Teamwork or Inertial Interference Field. A lot of rules have changed the last 2 years, you'd better look into it.
Sheeplover
12/21/2009, 09:52
"Biggest problem for that team is that you no longer can share Ant-Man's defense through T-Bolting to Defenders. The character 'giving away' his Defense Value must have the printed symbol on his dial."
I believe you are mistaken, this is still a valid tactic, and a good one.
"Biggest problem for that team is that you no longer can share Ant-Man's defense through T-Bolting to Defenders. The character 'giving away' his Defense Value must have the printed symbol on his dial."
I believe you are mistaken, this is still a valid tactic, and a good one.
Incorrect. I don't have my rulebook at work, but you can only give defense values from non-wildcards or T-Bolted people as far as I know ...
Incorrect. I don't have my rulebook at work, but you can only give defense values from non-wildcards or T-Bolted people as far as I know ...
That's when using wildcard abuse. The team listed has no wildcards; all the figs in question would have the Avengers TA T-bolted to Defenders. This works.
im pretty sure the last rules change happened when i was still playing h2.0. and the only difference is that w.c. cant copy the tbolted ability. other than that, its valid. and on a side note; karolina dean would be a perfect sub for cap. slap ambidextrous and armor piercing on her. brutal. 81 pts.
im pretty sure the last rules change happened when i was still playing h2.0. and the only difference is that w.c. cant copy the tbolted ability. other than that, its valid. and on a side note; karolina dean would be a perfect sub for cap. slap ambidextrous and armor piercing on her. brutal. 81 pts.
You are correct. T-bolt says that they possess the choossen TA.
So they would posses the Defenders TA and would be able to share to WC's and other defenders alike.
Rurouni KJS
12/21/2009, 22:59
You are correct. T-bolt says that they possess the choossen TA.
So they would posses the Defenders TA and would be able to share to WC's and other defenders alike.
But the wildcards cannot borrow Thunderbolted-to-Defenders' defense because they can't copy alternate team abilities. There would have to be an actual Defender on the team; then and only then can the wildcard(s) borrow an adjacent T-Bolt's DV.
You are correct. T-bolt says that they possess the choossen TA.
So they would posses the Defenders TA and would be able to share to WC's and other defenders alike.
Thunderbolts
All friendly characters with the Avengers team ability have the following team ability instead of the Avengers team ability:
After placing your force in your starting area, choose any one team ability other than a wild card team ability or a team ability that can't be copied by wild card team abilities. Members of this team gain the chosen team ability instead of the Avengers team ability, but their team affiliation does not change.
Doesn't work like that. When you T-bolt you gain the TA ability but not the affiliation. Figs Tbolted to Defenders could only share DVs amongst themselves or give DVs to wildcards. They cannot mix with Defenders because even though they have the same ability they're not the same TA (think Xmen & Teen Titans, same ability different TAs).
But the wildcards cannot borrow Thunderbolted-to-Defenders' defense because they can't copy alternate team abilities. There would have to be an actual Defender on the team; then and only then can the wildcard(s) borrow an adjacent T-Bolt's DV.
yes i forgot to mention that the WC's needed a narutal Defender to be able to get the def of the T-bolted Character.
Thunderbolts
All friendly characters with the Avengers team ability have the following team ability instead of the Avengers team ability:
After placing your force in your starting area, choose any one team ability other than a wild card team ability or a team ability that can't be copied by wild card team abilities. Members of this team gain the chosen team ability instead of the Avengers team ability, but their team affiliation does not change.
Doesn't work like that. When you T-bolt you gain the TA ability but not the affiliation. Figs Tbolted to Defenders could only share DVs amongst themselves or give DVs to wildcards. They cannot mix with Defenders because even though they have the same ability they're not the same TA (think Xmen & Teen Titans, same ability different TAs).
Actually they can share their def b/c they posses the Defenders TA.
They still have the Symbol of Avengers but they posses the TA of Defenders.
(if you want proof just go to the rules forums and ask/look for the answer)
Doctor Diesel
12/22/2009, 13:39
I see now where I've been mistaken. Thanks for clearing that up, guys. I still can't believe that they nerfed the wildcards and at the same time kept a loophole for that goddamned Thunderbolts feat :(
by the way...i am awesome.
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