A Better Power Girl [Archive]

VictorySaber

03/12/2010, 20:20

Experienced Power Girl
Team: DC - Justice Society
Range: 6 :bolt:
Points: 195
Keywords: Justice League, Justice Society
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Trait - Kryptonian Physiology: Power Girl may use Super-Strength
Speed - Faster than you think: Give Power Girl a power action. she may move up to her full movement, and make a close combat attack against a single opponent.

Perplex: Unintentional Distraction- might be better served as an SP that would allow her only to modify an opponent's attack or defense value?
Ranged Combat Expert: Focused Heat Vision

JDKenada

03/12/2010, 20:51

I see it more as a "different" Power Girl dial rather than better, but that's just me.

edit: because I'm a tool...

Upon realising the design isn't what I first saw, I do apologize. I'm not sure if I like it more or less than before though, as ABF explains below (not too mention I'm not 100% keen on full dial Super Strength).

Amora's_best_friend

03/12/2010, 20:54

Much prefer the new official one.

I hate the "two attacks" thing. Flurry is so overdone, and its really boring to play with and against.

I see it more as a "different" Power Girl dial rather than better, but that's just me.

I've never understood having Quake and Super Strength together on a click when there's no way to charge in. This dial would need to either be TK'd in, or get shot before it got swarmed enough to warrant using Quake.

I'm not knocking your creativity, or possible comic accuracy. I just like this dial less than the one we got.

You're mixing up the trait and the speed SP.

JDKenada

03/12/2010, 21:02

Well hrm...

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Amora's_best_friend again.

dariusq

03/12/2010, 23:50

I like, but you've made her too cost effective now. You should consider bringing her back up to 199pts+ for such high front loaded damage.

dariusq

03/13/2010, 00:38

Here's my take just by doing some small tweaks. Still not spectacular but then I never expected Power Girl to be. Sorry fanboys.

V Power Girl
Team: JSA
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 199
Keywords: Justice League europe, Justice Society
m-winga-normald-normalg-normal1010174101017410917498174971638918389183881838816387163KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOSpeed - Eyes Up Here, Soldier!: Power Girl can use exploit weakness and shape change. Characters that can use Willpower or Indomitable, or a characters that possesses the robot keyword ignore this power.

Sate

03/13/2010, 00:49

Rurouni KJS

03/13/2010, 17:44

I think Battle Fury would be a more appropriate power to negate the Exploit Weakness.

It wouldn't, though.

Slade Wilson

03/14/2010, 13:21

they both look good but I think they would both cost about 10 -15 points more.

llyrghmnghyll

03/14/2010, 13:56

they both look good but I think they would both cost about 10 -15 points more.

Why, the second one is exactly the same as the one we got, just with powers moved around. The first one - which costs less and does more should definitely be more, but the second one should come in pretty close.

on the Xplodiak generator the second one comes in I think at 1 point more. moving the Hypersonic to better movement is offset by moving one of the 18 def to toughness.

BTW the spoiled dial points in at 193 on that generator, so I certainly don't think she's mispriced, just badly built.

I really like dariusq's redo. rep at ya.

llyrghmnghyll

03/14/2010, 14:20

also heres my shot at a redo. this one comes in 3 pts cheaper on the dial generator, but I'd be happy with the same price (199)

Power Girl
Team: JSA
Points: 199
Range: 6 :bolt:
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal101117510101751010184991849918488174881748817388163KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKODamage - Eyes Up Here, Soldier!: Power Girl can use exploit weakness, but cannot use it on a character that can use Willpower or Indomitable, or a character that possesses the robot keyword.

Edit: I put in leadership and tweaked a few things.

spider_ham

03/14/2010, 14:52

I'd only make a few tweaks to the Special Power and include range:

#35 V Power Girl
Team: JSA
Range: 3 :bolt:
Points: 199
Keywords: Justice League Europe, Justice Society
m-winga-normald-normalg-normal1010174101017410918499184991838817388173881638716387163KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKODamage - Eyes Up Here, Soldier!: Power Girl can use Exploit Weakness and Super Strength. When Power Girl uses Exploit Weakness, she does not deal penetrating damage to opposing characters that possess Willpower, Indomitable, or the Robot keyword.

Maniac_nmt

03/14/2010, 15:30

llyrghmnghyll

03/14/2010, 15:43

V Powergirl
Team: JSA
Range: 8 :bolt:
Points: 199
Keywords: Justice Society
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:star:Kryptonian - Powergirl can use the Superman Ally Team Ability.

I don't buy running shot or Superman ally TA. Sure she can use them, but she has years of experience not relying on those abilities and so they don't really deserve full representation.

VictorySaber

03/14/2010, 15:52

Hn. so, being 1 click shorter a dial, granted with what I thought was a more solid mix of powers doesn't line up? Ok. went and bumped the value back up to the 190's, and pulled the flurry (though I still feel she should have it at some point- Satana DID say in the end, without her powers she was just a 1-2 puncher) but eh.

Maniac_nmt

03/14/2010, 16:00

I don't buy running shot or Superman ally TA. Sure she can use them, but she has years of experience not relying on those abilities and so they don't really deserve full representation.

I'm not going with the years of Powergirl, but more of a Post IC Power Girl (who has been using these powers more often. I totally get why some people wouldn't care for it). I guess Running Shot could go at the end, and put flurry in it's place.

Slade Wilson

03/14/2010, 16:05

Much prefer the new official one.

I hate the "two attacks" thing. Flurry is so overdone, and its really boring to play with and against.

You're mixing up the trait and the speed SP.

agreed, I dont mind two attacks if you have to stay still or on figures with lower damage who are very fast, but on heavy hitters its a bit overdone.

llyrghmnghyll

03/14/2010, 16:40

agreed, I dont mind two attacks if you have to stay still or on figures with lower damage who are very fast, but on heavy hitters its a bit overdone.

I'm fairly sure I could stand never seeing that power combo again as well. With PG anyway I'd Prefer the full movement charge option.

Isran_Imrador

03/14/2010, 16:52

Well posted an expensive Pee Gee here (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4594061&postcount=392)

:a-sharpshooter:

Isran_Imrador

03/14/2010, 17:35

Made another one:

Power Girl Veteran
Range: 8~
Team: Justice Society Points: 199
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View dial at the Dial Maker (http://www.urlmaker.com/robert/heroclix/customs_view.cfm?figs=56374)

Trait: Eyes up her: Once at the start of you turn Power Girl can use incapacitate as a free action against opposing male characters. Or on male characters she has been attacked by in that turn.

Pee Gee has the Indomitable DS

Jawapimp

03/15/2010, 03:56

Weird, I whipped this dial up the other day:

#043 V Power Girl
Team: JSA
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 180
Keywords: Justice Society of America, Justice League, Birds of Prey
m-winga-normald-normalg-normal101117410101739101739101739916389163891627815278152KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKODefense - Um... up here: Power Girl can use Toughness. Whenever Power Girl is hit by a close combat attack, roll a d6. On the result of a 6, Power Girl evades the attack.
Damage - Cousin of Kal-L: Powergirl can use The Superman Team Ability and has a range of six

TheCheerleader

03/15/2010, 05:48

#035 V SuperGirl
Team: JSA
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 200
m-winga-normald-normalg-normal101017410101841091848917491017381018389173891638816388163KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKODamage - Eyes Up Here, Soldier!: Power Girl can use exploit weakness, but cannot use it on a character that can use Willpower or Indomitable, or a character that possesses the robot keyword.

Its still Virtually the same dial. With a Few Tweaks.

UniqueLoginNamor

03/15/2010, 12:52

V Power Girl
Team: JSA
Range: 6 :bolt:
Points: 208
Keywords: Justice Society, Cleavage Leagion
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Shape Change = Tit Jiggle
:star: Eyes Up Here! And the end of any action in which a character drew line of fire to Power Girl, roll 1D6. on 4-6 deal 1 unavoidable damage to that character. Whenever an opponent looks at this figures sculpt, deal 1 unavoidable damage to the character on his/her team closest to Power Girl to which she has line of fire.

xer0sum

03/15/2010, 13:38

I guess when your making your dream dial, everyone is indomitable.

llyrghmnghyll

03/15/2010, 15:03

I guess when your making your dream dial, everyone is indomitable.

This is possibly the most baseless critique I've read in ages.

Out of 9 dials only 1 has indomitable.

UniqueLoginNamor

03/15/2010, 15:53

This is possibly the most baseless critique I've read in ages.

Out of 9 dials only 1 has indomitable.

Glad i wasn't the only one confused by that.

jackstar7

03/15/2010, 16:16

I finally found my old KC Power Woman dial. It was my second ever...

U POWER WOMAN
Team: Hypertime
Range: 6 /
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If I were to add the "Eyes" SP, I'd alter it so that it was penetrating damage, rather than simple Exploit Weakness, because I'd rather she was able to get past figs with Fortitude.

llyrghmnghyll

03/15/2010, 20:27

I kind of feel like this thread is moot now.

The Charlatan

03/16/2010, 01:52

V Power Girl
Team: JSA
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 199
AE Base: Kryptonite Bras
Keywords: Justice League Europe, Justice Society
m-winga-normald-normalg-normal101117410101741010184991849917388173881637715377143KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKODamage - My Eyes Are Up Here: Power Girl can use Perplex, but can only target opposing figures and only modify stats by -1. Characters that can use Willpower, have the Indominable symbol, or the Robot keyword cannot be targeted.

How's this? Tried to keep it as close to the original dial as my own ideas about how PeeGee 'should' be as possible.

Terman8er

03/16/2010, 02:02

I think if you made the current Power Girl an 8 range with one target and gave her +1 to her AV across her dial (and add 20 or so points) she would be darn near perfect. I am not so set on her having Leadership.

Isran_Imrador

03/16/2010, 06:30

So PG has a SS trait ;-) (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=271943)

xer0sum

03/16/2010, 12:28

This is possibly the most baseless critique I've read in ages.

Out of 9 dials only 1 has indomitable.

I'm simply saying that every thread that shows up here has a figure being indomitable. Not every figure. But when it's time to post your dream Forbush Man, somebody will make him indomitable.

It's like an incap giving 2 tokens or a figures primary attack being penetrating. Lots of relatively rare things become amazingly common on these threads.

llyrghmnghyll

03/16/2010, 12:42

I'm simply saying that every thread that shows up here has a figure being indomitable. Not every figure. But when it's time to post your dream Forbush Man, somebody will make him indomitable.

It's like an incap giving 2 tokens or a figures primary attack being penetrating. Lots of relatively rare things become amazingly common on these threads.

Yes in any thread with multiple interpretations of a character you can expect at least one version with
1) an 11+ attack
2) an 18+ Defense
3) Indomitable
4) 4+ damage

That's the nature of the beast though, it's hardly noteworthy. Dreams and desires are based on what people want more than what's good for the game. what people want is usually based on the standards of the Uber pieces rather than the average piece. that's a losing battle I've been fighting for nearly a decade now of dial design.

UniqueLoginNamor

03/16/2010, 12:58

llyrghmnghyll

03/16/2010, 13:03

Some Guy
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 3 :bolt:
Points: 25
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Sorry couldn't resist

Clearly you have never read a book with some guy in it. There was a panel where he used "that new hotness" power and remeber when he took out the entire league of "who gives a rats behind" . Also he's imbued with "generic energy force X" and that's really not represented here. He also needs more.

In conclusion
1) You suck
2) your dials suck
3) You don't know anything about anything
4) I'm a fanboy, but fair.

UniqueLoginNamor

03/17/2010, 11:50

Clearly you have never read a book with some guy in it. There was a panel where he used "that new hotness" power and remeber when he took out the entire league of "who gives a rats behind" . Also he's imbued with "generic energy force X" and that's really not represented here. He also needs more.

In conclusion
1) You suck
2) your dials suck
3) You don't know anything about anything
4) I'm a fanboy, but fair.

LOL, ROFLMOA! Oh i forgot he has a trait that gives him Pulse wave with 10 range and HSS that gives you ranged actions instead of attacks.
That's how he defeated League of "who gives a rats behind"

but i think you were wrong. That was an alternate universe Some Guy.

xer0sum

03/18/2010, 14:37

Only Flurry? No Hypersonic, with flurry or a trait where his powers can't be outwitted?

mkweaver

04/18/2010, 16:54

Sorry I am late to the party all... discussed my change ideas in the General Forum, went to the points generator to make it up, found out how expensive CCE is, modified my thoughts a bit, and came up with this...

#001 V Power Girl (?)
Team: Justice Society
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 211
Keywords: Justice Society, Justice League Europe
m-winga-normald-normalg-normal9101749101749101849101849918389173891738916388163KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOTrait - Eyes Up Here: Power Girl can use Shape Change, but cannot use it on a character that can use Willpower or Indomitable, a character that possess the Robot keyword, or a character that shares a keyword with Power Girl.
Damage - Charging Headfirst: Power Girl has Close Combat Expert. Power Girl can use this power as a free action instead of a close combat attack while using Hypersonic Speed. If she does, her movement stops in the square where she made the attack.

I read through the other pages before posting and saw we are all pretty similar... check the general forum if you would like for why I made mine like I did...

I do not know if mine is any better than the one currently available, but I like to think so... I think they gave the current one a price break though or something, because the current one costs more than 199 on the generator I used...

Thanks for reading!