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jeditq
02/19/2003, 09:42
Well, I have been playing Heroclix for some time now, and there is one thing that bugs me, and it isn’t Firelord. Here it is. One of my friends and I play Heroclix about once a week. I actually got him into Heroclix and we have played some. The first few games he beat me and he was very smug. But the next one we played I was crushing him, and it was also the first time I had used a person that had probability control in a game against him. After I asked him to re-roll his dice (I wasn't mean about it) and he missed and immedately accused me of cheating, I said look at the superpowers sheet and read the rule for yourself. So, he looked at it for about two minites and said, "You can only re-roll one of the dice, not both!" So we argued for a few minutes, I said you re-roll both, him insisting that I only re-roll one. So, finally I gave in and re-rolled one of my die, I still hit and he got up, swiped up his heroclix and said, "You win, but you were cheating." I said fine, and the next time we played, he said it was fine if I re-roll both, but when my brother (I was playing with my little brother, and my friend) told me to re-roll my succesful attack role, and I did and still hit, my friend said that I was cheating. He said that my little brother should re-roll for me, I told him that was bieng stupid and read him the rule, wich says force an opponent to re roll. He said no way and dramatically swept off his clix and quit. Now he has done this two times and the only times I have finished a game with him he has won, but how do I deal with him. I still want to play with him because he still comes over but I don't wan't to deal with the rules disagreement every time. So, I need some suggestions and, is there a more in-depth explination of the rules anywhere that are simplified and clearly describe them?

shin-goji
02/19/2003, 09:45
The simplest solution, my friend, is to not play him. he is obviously a poor sport and immature and not worth your time. He may go around saying you cheated and how you're scared to play him because you cheat, but don't worry about it. He's just not worth your effort.

Keleko
02/19/2003, 09:53
You are playing Probability Control correctly. You re-roll a single dice roll, not a single die. That can mean both dice in an attack roll or a single die for Super Senses or Blades/Claws/Fangs. Probability Control can be quite annoying to deal with, so I can see his frustration. Getting upset and quitting over it is definitely immature, though.

TheSpirit
02/19/2003, 10:00
If he's the only person you can play against, I think you're out of luck. If you can, find a few other people to play against. The chances of this sort of childishness working in a group setting is pretty small.

If you want some official backing on rules issues in dispute, go to the wizkids site and download the latest FAQ. Most of the common problems are explained very clearly in that document. For instance, the first note on PC deals with the "one die/two dice" rolling deal. You can show your friend that. But I doubt it will clear up the problem. If you continue to play against only him, get used to him constantly "taking his ball and going home" when things go bad. He hasn't learned good sportsmanship yet, and until he matures this will be a common occurrence. Sorry.