PDA

View Full Version : Kick~@$$ !!!


Hellboy
04/02/2010, 18:33
It just occured me that the release date of Brave & the Bold and the KICK-A$S movie are right on top of each other, and It made me feel bad there was little chance of them lining anything up to coincide with this release considering the hiatus.

Still, It made me think how awesome a Kick-A$S collector's set would be. It's perfect for the 7 figure action pack model...

Kick-As$
Big Daddy
Hit Girl
Crimson Mist
John Genovese (Crimson Mist's mafia boss dad)
Battle Damaged Kick - A$s / Battle Damaged Hit Girl :a-duo:
Kick-As$ :m-wing-trans: (with gatling gun equipped jet pack from the movie)

don't read the above spoiler suggestion if you haven't seen the movie yet! even if you've read the book, the movie still has some awesome surprises for you~!

I love this comic. I can't wait for the next chapter. I think after the movie releases, Its popularity is going to go through the roof. what do you think?

Ultim8 Avenger
04/02/2010, 18:35
ummm....no.

Ultim8 Avenger
04/02/2010, 18:36
just. kidding. i think the movie will be funny. clixwise? i'm not feeling it.

Hellboy
04/02/2010, 18:38
FUNNY~?!

have you read it?

Ultim8 Avenger
04/02/2010, 18:58
looks to be a seth rogen kinda flick. am i wrong?

Hellboy
04/02/2010, 19:01
please read the most kick aS$ comic of all time, then return to this discussion.

specled jim
04/02/2010, 19:04
a hero called BIG DADDY with a young girl as a sidekick ??

sorry but someone had to say it lol

Hellboy
04/02/2010, 19:05
Hit Girl may be the most brutal comic book heroine of all time.


(PS~ its her actual dad)

Ultim8 Avenger
04/02/2010, 19:23
please read the most kick aS$ comic of all time, then return to this discussion.

okay..*sniff* (closes door quietly).

Sensualninja
04/02/2010, 19:56
Mark Millar was on set helping with production the entire time

Troma99
04/02/2010, 22:58
yheah...looks like they're going to spy kids it up


And we did a thread on KICK ### dials....I liked them

rollinsolo
04/03/2010, 00:24
There's no way it can be as good as the upcoming A-Team movie.

imaleximsweet
04/03/2010, 00:35
There's no way it can be as good as the upcoming A-Team movie.

that preview was pretty awesome. and i hope Kickass is not watered down, the comic is brutal

Hellboy
04/03/2010, 00:49
yeah, unfortunately it looks like the movie's weakness is going to be Hit Girl, which is a shame because she's my favorite part of the comic.

*sigh*

I'll never be satisfied with comics movies. Nor will I ever stop getting excited about them. Its a kind of masochism.

Amora's_best_friend
04/03/2010, 18:11
If you've seen the film, you'll know this dial is not overpowered. She's *literally* too good.

R Hit Girl
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 6 :bolt::bolt::bolt:
Points: 200
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal912183911193811192811182810182810182KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO:star:YOU CAN DO IT HONEY!: When Hit Girl cannot draw line of fire to Big Daddy, she does not take pushing damage.
:star: ASSASSIN'S TRAINING: Hit Girl can use Stealth. When Hit Girl rolls an 11, it is considered a critical hit.
Speed - SO, YOU WANNA PLAY?: Hit Girl can use Running Shot and Charge. Hit Girl ignores hindering terrain when moving and making ranged combat attacks. If Hit Girl does not move during an action, increase her attack and damage by 1.
Attack - OK YOU ####S, LET'S SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO: When Hit Girl makes a ranged combat attack, she may instead make as many ranged combat attacks are there are opposing characters within her range as free actions. Deal her unmodified damage to each opponent hit.
Defense - ONE STEP AHEAD: Hit Girl can use Shape Change. If she fails her Shape Change roll, she may immediately make an attack targeting the attacker as a free action (if the attack can legally be made).
Damage - SHOW'S OVER, MOTHER####ERS: Hit Girl can use Outwit and Perplex. When Hit Girl KOs an opposing character, remove an action token from her.

Hellboy
04/03/2010, 23:36
yes!

what a great dial for Hit Girl.

I would love to play her. She would slaughter~!

deshwitat000
04/04/2010, 00:33
watch the redban trailers there is no way they're fluffing this movie up.

Hellboy
04/19/2010, 01:19
Holy ####ing #### guys~!

SEE THE MOVIE~! READ THE COMIC~!

this is how superhero movies should be made.

everyone around here is big on supporting things with their purchases to send a message yes? And we all hate how Hollywood ruins our favorite comics characters don't we? When know-nothing executives water down and trash your favorite stories, doesn't that tick you right the #### off?

want movies where the creator gets to say how the story is adapted? where studios don't get to gut the core fundamentals of the characters and plot? where the director put his own ### on the line raising the money himself, and the cast works on the film because they love the material instead of just to receive a paycheck?

in short: do you want to help usher in a new paradigm of comics movies that KICKS ###?

GO TO YOUR THEATER~! GIVE THEM YOUR MONEY~! BREAK THE #### OUT OF THE BOXOFFICE FOR THIS MOTHER####ER~!

If you don't know how awesome this is, you are not as big a comics fan as you thought you were. there. I said it.

blitzkriegbop56
04/19/2010, 02:06
this movie was so amazing i cant say this enough about it. absolutly best movie in years. i cant wait to see it again for the 3rd time sooooo brutal

Hellboy
04/19/2010, 02:22
Roger Ebert called the movie "morally reprehensible" in his review.

that's like three thumbs up if you ask me.

Troma99
04/19/2010, 08:02
Roger Ebert called the movie "morally reprehensible" in his review.

that's like three thumbs up if you ask me.

is he the one with the Slack jaw or the one with no jaw?

Hellboy
04/19/2010, 09:07
either one is the same guy. Gene Siskel isn't around anymore, so Roger Ebert is in charge of all the Thumbs. He mostly writes on his online blog now. He's a very ill man at the end of his span. his story is very sad and touching. He's a resilient spirit facing his end with great courage and conviction. Its made him kind of a soft touch when it comes to movie reviews though.

Slade Wilson
04/19/2010, 12:59
If you've seen the film, you'll know this dial is not overpowered. She's *literally* too good.

R Hit Girl
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 6 :bolt::bolt::bolt:
Points: 200
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal912183911193811192811182810182810182KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO:star:YOU CAN DO IT HONEY!: When Hit Girl cannot draw line of fire to Big Daddy, she does not take pushing damage.
:star: ASSASSIN'S TRAINING: Hit Girl can use Stealth. When Hit Girl rolls an 11, it is considered a critical hit.
Speed - SO, YOU WANNA PLAY?: Hit Girl can use Running Shot and Charge. Hit Girl ignores hindering terrain when moving and making ranged combat attacks. If Hit Girl does not move during an action, increase her attack and damage by 1.
Attack - OK YOU ####S, LET'S SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO: When Hit Girl makes a ranged combat attack, she may instead make as many ranged combat attacks are there are opposing characters within her range as free actions. Deal her unmodified damage to each opponent hit.
Defense - ONE STEP AHEAD: Hit Girl can use Shape Change. If she fails her Shape Change roll, she may immediately make an attack targeting the attacker as a free action (if the attack can legally be made).
Damage - SHOW'S OVER, MOTHER####ERS: Hit Girl can use Outwit and Perplex. When Hit Girl KOs an opposing character, remove an action token from her.

Sorry nah, her attack would not go above 10 but would stay there quite a bit, they fight normal thugs not superheroes. she could have plenty of combat reflexes and blades though and about 4 - 5 clix of life. She is fine a s long as she does not get hit, the boss jacked her up at the end.

Sensualninja
04/19/2010, 14:53
the only thing I didn't like about the movie was they he got the girlfriend.

In the comic she was pissed that he pretended to be gay, and sent him a pic of her blowing another dude.

Hellboy
04/19/2010, 15:13
yeah, the comic is darker and harsher.

but ultimately, the final product of the film is every bit as good as the finished comic is.

for once, the trade offs are equitable.

songwriterz
04/19/2010, 16:19
Kick A## was the best movie I've seen all year. It was as true to the comic as they probably could have made it.

And, yes, Hit Girl is everything in the movie that she was in the comic.

Absolutely brilliant film making, an incredible adrenaline rush, and all the violence you never thought you'd see in a comic book movie.

Go see the movie now...now...NOW..NOW!!

Amora's_best_friend
04/19/2010, 17:03
Sorry nah, her attack would not go above 10 but would stay there quite a bit, they fight normal thugs not superheroes. she could have plenty of combat reflexes and blades though and about 4 - 5 clix of life. She is fine a s long as she does not get hit, the boss jacked her up at the end.

The fact she hit the camera from that far away, so confidently, with a handgun merits higher than a 10 IMO.

Jawapimp
04/19/2010, 17:26
The fact she hit the camera from that far away, so confidently, with a handgun merits higher than a 10 IMO.

While watching the movie I couldn't help but think about clix.

As a whole, all Kick-### characters should have low damage but be able to b a big threat to generics, etc. I saw hit girl with a high attack, but low damage. Something like this:

R Hit Girl
Points: 70
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 6 :bolt::bolt:
Keywords: Kid
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal711152711152610141610141510131KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

Trait - I'm Hit Girl: Whenever Hit Girl attacks a character with a point value of 50 or less, increase her damage by +1. If she is within 6 squares of Big Daddy, this damage is unavoidable.
Speed - Daddy's Little Girl: Hit Girl can use Stealth, Running Shot and Charge. When Hit Girl can draw a line of fire to Big Daddy, she may use her full movement for charge and running shot.
Defense - Alright You #####, Let's See What You Can Do!: Hit Girl can use Combat Reflexes and Super Senses. Whenever an attack misses Hit Girl, you may move her up to two squares as a free action.
Damage - Taking Down the Bad Guys: Whenever Hit Girl makes a successful attack against an opposing character of a lesser point value, she may make another attacks against an opposing character with a lesser point value as a free action.

Hellboy
04/19/2010, 19:21
With parts 2 & 3 of the comic already announced, and the open ended teaser that there will be more heroes and villains to come, there might be more options and opportunities for an action pack tied with a future movie release~!

For now, I updated my original post to reflect movie aspects. I'm going to try and conceal them behind a spoiler block, so that I don't ruin any surprises...

Slade Wilson
04/19/2010, 19:40
A camera would be an object token in a game of clix, no need to have a high attack value to hit it. I'm saying she could have a bunch of 10's but thats it! Are you saying she is a better fighter than cap or batman or daredevil...um nope. Your hit girl could give Wonder woman a run for her money. Im just saying, dont confuse characters from movies or comics where they only fight simple crooks with comic book heroes who have taken on the hulk.

my take...

R Hit Girl
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 6 :bolt: :bolt:
Points: 55
Keywords: Martial artist, Kid
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal8101727101627101517915169141KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOSpeed - So...u wana play: Hit girl can use Charge, Running Shot and Stealth.

now at first glance you may not agree but these stats are super impresive for a 13 year old girl. Also I am keeping her dial in line with other heroclix such as Batman, Wolverine and the like, she is one mean little girl, but she is not going to take down a definative comic book hero.

dont forget the mobster boss kicked the snot out of her, so could he beat up Batman right?...nope Batman would beat him in seconds.

now take a look at a Street Thug from the arkham set and tell me how you think she would do againts him. Cause thats who she is used to fighting.

deshwitat000
04/19/2010, 19:48
i told you they wouldn't fluff this movie. it was amazing!
i loved the book and i loved the changes the movie had. it didn't ruin it one bit.
if you haven't seen it then you must asap.

btw how do i do spoilers?

Hellboy
04/19/2010, 20:13
its the light gray 'S' button in the advanced features bar... or you can just use the same bracketing system for PHP commands using the word spoiler. as in:

thing you want to spoil

just remove the underscore I inserted above so you could view the command....

deshwitat000
04/19/2010, 20:53
thanks Hellboy.

only thing i missed from the book in the movie was this.

Hug me. my daddy just died

only part i wish was in the movie. :cry:

Magnetrex
04/19/2010, 22:02
I cannot believe you guys go on for three pages and NOT have any possible predictions for these guys as heroclix. Well here's my two cents on a possible Kick @$$ box set.

--------------------------------------------------------------
#001 Kick @$$
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 55
Keywords: Celebrity, Teen
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal8916279152781516716156151KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO
:star: Metal Plates: Kick @$$ can use Toughness
:star: "F@ck this I'm walking": Kick @$$ cannot be transported nor can he be targeted for telekinesis

#002 E Hit Girl
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 6 :bolt:
Points: 73
Keywords: Celebrity, Kid, Martial Artist
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal7916169152581525615146141KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKODefense - "Ok you c@nts, let's see what you can do": Hit Girl can use Leap/Climb and Energy Shield/Deflection

#003 V Big Daddy
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 8 :bolt::bolt:
Points: 100
Keywords: Celebrity, Detective, Martial Artist
m-normala-normald-indomitableg-normal810183791727816288171791626815167151KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

#004 R Red Mist
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 4 :bolt:
Points: 60
Keywords: Celebrity, Teen, Ruler
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal8916289151781516714257141KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOSpeed - "So you ready to go fight some crime?": Red Mist can use Stealth and Perplex
Damage - "This prick can't even help himself": Red Mist can use Outwit and Mastermind

Hellboy
04/19/2010, 22:56
I prefer the more badass versions of Hit Girl.

I agree that she should have a low damage but she should have a high attack. maybe only give her a little blades, covering with a special power on the remainder of her dial... Which should be medium length, because she should definitely not get KO'd in one shot, even by a big guy, she should be allowed to linger on the battlefield. I like the ideas of giving her co-op powers with Big Daddy. She should be super tough on her first click, serviceable through the middle of her dial, and weak but tricky at the end. I've never used the dial generator myself, but that's my 2¢

deshwitat000
04/19/2010, 23:26
Not over the top but let me know what ya think

R kick-@$$
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 40
Keywords: Teen
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal7917279161691616815158152KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKODefense - Metal Plates: Kick-@$$ has Toughness and Willpower




R Hit-Girl
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 4 :bolt::bolt:
Points: 68
Keywords: Kid, Martial Artist
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal71017271016269162610152511152KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO
:star: Hit-Girl can use Leap/Climb
Speed - Mission's not over: Give Hit-Girl a Power Action to move Hit-Girl up to her full movement, after moving she can use quake as a free action.
Attack - AR-15: Hit-Girl has Psychic Blast and possess the sharpshooter Symbol

Hellboy
04/19/2010, 23:59
with as mch damage as units can do these days I would Give hit girl one or two more clicks, even if they are weak, just so she's not prone to one hit KO. She's tough and spunky, and can take a serious beating. Since she shouldn't really have much in the way of damage reducers, toughness tops, she should have a dial that can take at least one big hit without going down right away. I think she shouldn't have a big splashy last click. Better for her to have a big flashy attack up front, and be in need of protection at the end of her dial.

combat reflexes & toughness are perfect for her. maybe on her end click where she's weak, energy shield deflection?

hanzoslash
04/19/2010, 23:59
When I first saw Kill Bill Vol 1 I thought there was no way they could make a better action flick than this.

Then Kick ### came along.

Slade Wilson
04/20/2010, 00:26
when I saw a 9 attack on kick @$$ I had to laugh he stinks at combat...

R Kick-@$$
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 40
Keywords: Celebrity, Teen
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal8716277162771626817168171KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

thats more like it. Hes good for beating on and his plates allow him some degree of tougness. Late dial he gets some licks in before he gets ko'ed.

deshwitat000
04/20/2010, 01:08
with as mch damage as units can do these days I would Give hit girl or two more click, even if they are weak, just so she's not prone to one hit KO. She's tough and spunky, and can take a serious beating. Since she shouldn't really have much in the way of damage reducers, toughness tops, she should have a dial that can take at least one big hit without going down right away. I think she shouldn't have a big splashy last click. Better for her to have a big flashy attack up front, and be in need of protection at the end of her dial.

combat reflexes & toughness are perfect for her. maybe on her end click where she's weak, energy shield deflection?

She's human, on top of that a child with no special abilities. superman should be able to KO her in one shot no problem.

when I saw a 9 attack on kick @$$ I had to laugh he stinks at combat...

R Kick-@$$
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 40
Keywords: Celebrity, Teen
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal8716277162771626817168171KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

thats more like it. Hes good for beating on and his plates allow him some degree of tougness. Late dial he gets some licks in before he gets ko'ed.

had to give him a 9 otherwise no one would use him :)

plus he's meh for the points.

look at the new robin amazing for the points.

Hellboy
04/20/2010, 10:17
but remember, we're talking comics narrative here, not physics.

If there ever were such a crossover... and seriously... why would there be? Supes would knock her on her ### with one hit, and clark would put her out of his mind.... but you know that two pages later... there would be hit girl holding her side, once eye winced shut, holding a chunk of Kryptonite she picked up out of a broken display case, and clark would have a look of utter shock on his face.

THIS is how comics work.

every power a character has isn't always "super strength" or "flight". Sometimes a character has power that comes from narrative and storytelling. If you're going to apply the "human" argument to these pieces, there's really no need to make them at all, because they'll suck, and nobody will play them. They should be low power, but useful. Those last clicks should be weak. But they should be there... because that's what she does in the stories. In the comic's final battle she's bleeding out from a gunshot wound, which would put any "normal human" out of the fight no question. But she has grit, and vengeful determination~!

Hellboy
04/20/2010, 10:23
as far as Kick @$$ is concerned, he should be a meat shield. He should be able to soak damage and tie up your opponent's units. I could see him with a power like:

I'd rather die: Kick-@$$ can use Plasticity and Defend. for each unfriendly character adjacent to Kick-@$$ increase his defense by 1.

Mr. Cranberry
04/20/2010, 10:39
If you've seen the film, you'll know this dial is not overpowered. She's *literally* too good.

R Hit Girl
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 6 :bolt::bolt::bolt:
Points: 200
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal912183911193811192811182810182810182KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO:star:YOU CAN DO IT HONEY!: When Hit Girl cannot draw line of fire to Big Daddy, she does not take pushing damage.
:star: ASSASSIN'S TRAINING: Hit Girl can use Stealth. When Hit Girl rolls an 11, it is considered a critical hit.
Speed - SO, YOU WANNA PLAY?: Hit Girl can use Running Shot and Charge. Hit Girl ignores hindering terrain when moving and making ranged combat attacks. If Hit Girl does not move during an action, increase her attack and damage by 1.
Attack - OK YOU ####S, LET'S SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO: When Hit Girl makes a ranged combat attack, she may instead make as many ranged combat attacks are there are opposing characters within her range as free actions. Deal her unmodified damage to each opponent hit.
Defense - ONE STEP AHEAD: Hit Girl can use Shape Change. If she fails her Shape Change roll, she may immediately make an attack targeting the attacker as a free action (if the attack can legally be made).
Damage - SHOW'S OVER, MOTHER####ERS: Hit Girl can use Outwit and Perplex. When Hit Girl KOs an opposing character, remove an action token from her.

Ok, what's odd about this is you give her barely less than an 11AV, yet on characters like Spider-Man you're hard-pressed to give him a 10AV. Added to that the :bolt::bolt::bolt:. Even though they're both shown to take on groups of baddies at once.

Hellboy
04/20/2010, 10:44
damn I wish they'd give spidey some action scenes like Hit Girl has! (without the gore obviously) I'm sorry, but I'd have to say that Hit girl is more brutal and awesome than spiderman. She shows no restraint.

Mr. Cranberry
04/20/2010, 10:53
damn I wish they'd give spidey some action scenes like Hit Girl has! (without the gore obviously) I'm sorry, but I'd have to say that Hit girl is more brutal and awesome than spiderman. She shows no restraint.

Just because Spidey isn't brutal doesn't mean he shouldn't get the high AVs. Look at the Shaolin Monks. They're mainly passive and really only fight when attacked. Even then they would try to refrain from killing an opponent, but they're considered to be some of the best combatants around.

Amora's_best_friend
04/20/2010, 11:04
Ok, what's odd about this is you give her barely less than an 11AV, yet on characters like Spider-Man you're hard-pressed to give him a 10AV. Added to that the :bolt::bolt::bolt:. Even though they're both shown to take on groups of baddies at once.

The difference is that Spidey has trouble fighting Vulture and Doctor Octopus, where Hit Girl would just shoot them both dead and wipe her hands clean.

Hellboy
04/20/2010, 11:10
and it would be so freakin' awesome when she did it.

Mr. Cranberry
04/20/2010, 11:41
The difference is that Spidey has trouble fighting Vulture and Doctor Octopus, where Hit Girl would just shoot them both dead and wipe her hands clean.

Well Doc Ock is also MUCH more intelligent than those that Hit Girl faces off against. Plus they also have more advantages than the typical thug/gangster.

Same with Vulture. He's smarter than Hit Girl's foes, plus fighting a flying foe gave Spidey a little trouble at first, but not really anymore. Spidey knows how to fight him.

Add to it that Spidey has been able to take on both of them plus other villains that initially gave him trouble at the same time and still come out on top.

He's also faster & stronger than she is.

But by your logic then anyone with a gun, sword or is willing to kill should never warrant below a 10AV.

Hellboy
04/20/2010, 11:58
I'll say this:

if neither of them had any knowledge of the other, and suddenly Hit Girl and Spidey got into a fight. Spidey would die. His spider-sense would keep him in the fight, but he'd hesitate since she's a little girl, and she'd blow his brains out.

Spidey would probably run, since that's what he does in situations like that, and they'd be on more even footing in the second encounter, he'd incapacitate her with webs, then they'd team up afterwards, and he'd try and teach her morality and fail.

Mr. Cranberry
04/20/2010, 12:05
I'll say this:

Spidey would probably run, since that's what he does in situations like that, and they'd be on more even footing in the second encounter, he's incapacitate her with webs, then they'd team up afterwards, and he'd try and teach her morality and fail.

Spidey heads into a fight because of, "With Great Power..." He doesn't just run.

The times that he runs is when he has to regroup to find a way to defeat a foe, or he's needing to lead the foe away from civilians and such. But he's moreover chasing a villain down and they escape from him.

Plus Spidey deals with kids carrying guns & weapons all the time. He just webs them up and if they shoot at him he dodges the bullets. There's no way Hit Girl is getting out of Spidey's webs that can tie down someone on Thing's level of strength.

Amora's_best_friend
04/20/2010, 12:14
It comes down to the fact Hit Girl has had her whole life being trained how to kill, where Spidey has minimal training (or had minimal training until he got trained by Ezekiel / SHIELD / whatever).

imaleximsweet
04/20/2010, 12:20
It comes down to the fact Hit Girl has had her whole life being trained how to kill, where Spidey has minimal training (or had minimal training until he got trained by Ezekiel / SHIELD / whatever).

i second this, i would say Hit Girl is >/= Damian Wayne in terms of training and attacking capabilities.

i personally think hit girl is a lil better, simply her knowledge on weapons, computers, tactics, and martial arts is something i would give her to give her the edge

VenomDaBomb
04/20/2010, 12:25
My take

Hit Girl
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 6 :bolt::bolt:
Points: 61
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal810172810172791727916268151KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOAttack - So you wanna play?: Hit Girl can use Charge and Blades/Claws/Fangs.
:star:Blade Master:Hit Girl can use Probability Control but can only target herself and only if she is using Blades/Claws/Fangs

Its just a little girl(Shape change)
Mini Grappling hook(Plasticity)
Dual Pistols(running shot)
Going for the legs(Exploit Weakness)

Amora's_best_friend
04/20/2010, 12:34
Did you guys see this movie?

Slade Wilson
04/20/2010, 12:38
Did you guys see this movie?

sure did and liked it, they do kick arse but they aren holding thier own against spidey or wolverine, no 12 attack please. :laugh:

Amora's_best_friend
04/20/2010, 12:45
Yeah, TBF, I made that dial the same night I saw the movie; on reflection I'd tone it down alot more.

Still, she's better than the majority of the dials posted here make her out to be.

Hellboy
04/20/2010, 12:46
again, I support high attack low damage.

Did you EVER see Hit Girl miss?

Slade Wilson
04/20/2010, 13:11
I'll say this:

if neither of them had any knowledge of the other, and suddenly Hit Girl and Spidey got into a fight. Spidey would die. His spider-sense would keep him in the fight, but he'd hesitate since she's a little girl, and she'd blow his brains out.

Spidey would probably run, since that's what he does in situations like that, and they'd be on more even footing in the second encounter, he'd incapacitate her with webs, then they'd team up afterwards, and he'd try and teach her morality and fail.

see this is exactly the type of nonsensicle carp I'm talking about, there is no way Hit girl is beating Spidey, she couldnt even handle a mob boss one on one, spidey is faster stronger and has a danger sense. And figts mobsters in groups of 10-20 regularly.

People please get a hold of your selves she is a great fighter for a little girl but she uses weapons and has the element of surprise. What happened when she was out of weapons? she was screwed and had to hind in a sink. She would not hold her own in the comic world of true super heroes, DD spidey batman heck even robin could all take her down.

Yes she is awesome and can beat up thugs but not super heros with powers.

Also a 10 is a high attack and the new set is scaling back attack values but keeping them more consistent which to me is much better in my opinion.

Hellboy
04/20/2010, 13:14
In the comic, she does handle him pretty well, even with a bullet in her. They make Kick-### the ultimate hero of the movie, but in the comic, without Hit-Girl he would have been dead meat.

She's the heavy hitter of this crew.

Hellboy
04/20/2010, 13:15
People please get a hold of your selves

I suggest you take a spoonful of your own medicide here.

we're talking comics and games here. Its okay for her to be a good playing piece.

Slade Wilson
04/20/2010, 13:18
Yeah, TBF, I made that dial the same night I saw the movie; on reflection I'd tone it down alot more.

Still, she's better than the majority of the dials posted here make her out to be.

See I think you are starting to understand my POV, take the thug from arkham in fact take 4 of them and place them adjacent to a hitgirl dial like your or mine. You will find that either can handle them with ease. So does she really need a 12 attack to be as good as she is in the movies. Shes no thor with centuries of combat experience, but that is where a 12 attack should be, ona Thor .

Hellboy
04/20/2010, 13:20
she's going to be huge dude.

I'm not sure if you realize what a rising star we've got here.

in two year's time you won't feel that she's so weak.

one opening click of 12 attack is not a game breaker

Slade Wilson
04/20/2010, 13:20
I suggest you take a spoonful of your own medicide here.

we're talking comics and games here. Its okay for her to be a good playing piece.

yes good not Incredible. I dont need the medicne, I saw the movie and respect her as a character but i'm not making her out to be a fighter of captain america's quality.

to be honest the damien wayne Robin character would make a good mod for her.

Hellboy
04/20/2010, 13:22
you know that's a great suggestion. I might start on a Mod of her right f'n' now~!

Slade Wilson
04/20/2010, 13:29
you know that's a great suggestion. I might start on a Mod of her right f'n' now~!

that a boy!

VenomDaBomb
04/20/2010, 13:35
I am with Slade here.. there is no way should should have 12 attack... 10 max... and i only give it that high cause she is a kid and surprises most attackers.

Also in the comic Kick A is not that bad of a fighter... the movie made him worse....

Mr. Cranberry
04/20/2010, 13:44
i second this, i would say Hit Girl is >/= Damian Wayne in terms of training and attacking capabilities.

i personally think hit girl is a lil better, simply her knowledge on weapons, computers, tactics, and martial arts is something i would give her to give her the edge

It comes down to the fact Hit Girl has had her whole life being trained how to kill, where Spidey has minimal training (or had minimal training until he got trained by Ezekiel / SHIELD / whatever).


So she's been training for what, 7-8 years? Spidey's been doing this for more than a decade. He's taken on and outclassed some of the best Martial Artists in the Marvel Universe. He's able to adapt to different situations and better utilize his surroundings. He's even been able to come out on top when he's fighting a foe specifically created to exploit his own weaknesses.

It's not even a match-up between the two. I'd prolly say give her a 9 attack tops, but then she gains a +1 with each additional character she targets. Give her :bolt::bolt:.

At the very least Hit Girl would never kill Spidey anyway. He's a good guy and she would know that beforehand. Just like she didn't kill Kick @$$ when she met him. She would like Spidey's style and therefore wouldn't even pull the trigger.

imaleximsweet
04/20/2010, 14:59
So she's been training for what, 7-8 years? Spidey's been doing this for more than a decade. He's taken on and outclassed some of the best Martial Artists in the Marvel Universe. He's able to adapt to different situations and better utilize his surroundings. He's even been able to come out on top when he's fighting a foe specifically created to exploit his own weaknesses.

It's not even a match-up between the two. I'd prolly say give her a 9 attack tops, but then she gains a +1 with each additional character she targets. Give her :bolt::bolt:.

At the very least Hit Girl would never kill Spidey anyway. He's a good guy and she would know that beforehand. Just like she didn't kill Kick @$$ when she met him. She would like Spidey's style and therefore wouldn't even pull the trigger.

all i was sayin is if damian gets 10-11 attack, hit girl should too. high attack low damage. and leave her damage value "locked" (since that is a new mechanic we are getting) give her exploit weakness 2 damage, good attack, thats all i'm sayin

deshwitat000
04/20/2010, 19:03
thats why i say my dials make more sense.

if kick-##### had only 7's and 8's no one would play him.
and hit girl shouldn't be able to take on super-powered characters one-on-one. she should be able to hurt them a lil but not outright beat them.

btw i changed kick-##### to have 3 8's instead of 3 9's


Not over the top but let me know what ya think

R kick-@$$
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 40
Keywords: Teen
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal7917279161681616815158152KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKODefense - Metal Plates: Kick-@$$ has Toughness and Willpower




R Hit-Girl
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 4 :bolt::bolt:
Points: 68
Keywords: Kid, Martial Artist
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal71017271016269162610152511152KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO
:star: Hit-Girl can use Leap/Climb
Speed - Mission's not over: Give Hit-Girl a Power Action to move Hit-Girl up to her full movement, after moving she can use quake as a free action.
Attack - AR-15: Hit-Girl has Psychic Blast and possess the sharpshooter Symbol

Hellboy
04/20/2010, 19:48
I just received a warning for my use of the character's name that this movie and thread are named after. Seems pointlessly puritanical, especially considering that its plastered on every surface of the city, is acceptable to say on national television, and is the #1 movie in america right now... but regardless, thems the rules, so I'll be referring to the character by the ridiculous and puerile name of Kick-Butt from now on. Don't give me #### for it. blame the mods.

carry on with the fandom.

deshwitat000
04/20/2010, 20:04
Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt Kick-butt

sorry i had to. :)

Troma99
04/21/2010, 08:20
I am with Slade here.. there is no way should should have 12 attack... 10 max... and i only give it that high cause she is a kid and surprises most attackers.

Also in the comic Kick A is not that bad of a fighter... the movie made him worse....

Haven't seen the movie but...uhhh how can they make him worse. If I recall right he got the #### beat out of him or stabbed on a regular basis. the Only real moment that he kicked ANY ### was near the end of the comic where he got them to try and beat the #### out of him so he could break loose. Even then, didn't he have to have Hitgirl Bail hiim out?


I mean sure he beat the #### out of Crimson at the end and that was truly enjoyable but yeah...he's not fighter

Slade Wilson
04/21/2010, 08:25
Haven't seen the movie but...uhhh how can they make him worse. If I recall right he got the #### beat out of him or stabbed on a regular basis. the Only real moment that he kicked ANY ### was near the end of the comic where he got them to try and beat the #### out of him so he could break loose. Even then, didn't he have to have Hitgirl Bail hiim out?


I mean sure he beat the #### out of Crimson at the end and that was truly enjoyable but yeah...he's not fighter

bingo!! see my dial for an accurate kick-butt LOL not a single 9 attack needed.

Hellboy
04/21/2010, 09:26
yeah, that's why I suggested he should have a long dial and plasticity defend, to soak damage. that's is thing. he takes a beating.

Troma99
04/21/2010, 16:38
yeah, that's why I suggested he should have a long dial and plasticity defend, to soak damage. that's is thing. he takes a beating.

Right but his dial should top out at 6 clicks only.

Where's the Old Kick-### Thread? It was really well done , dials wise, They were weak yet accurate.

VenomDaBomb
04/21/2010, 16:44
Right but his dial should top out at 6 clicks only.

Where's the Old Kick-### Thread? It was really well done , dials wise, They were weak yet accurate.

I know it was my thread! i think it got taken down! cause of @$$ .... :cry:

VenomDaBomb
04/21/2010, 16:45
oh snap i found it!

http://hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=270122&highlight=kick (http://hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=270122&highlight=kick)

Sensualninja
04/21/2010, 16:46
BUY IT BUY THE BRICK!

"OR ELSE I AM GONNA BREAK YOUR ####ING LEGS!"*

U Kick ###
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 19
Keywords: None
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal78152681426714257131201101011010110KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO
:star: Reckless Abandon: When Kick ### KO's an opposing character, you recieve double KO Points.


Kimbo Sticks: Flurry
Hospitalized Regeneration
Pepper Spray Incapacitate
Just a Kid Shape Change

*(Quote Taken from Kick ### #3)




I still love how I did the guy last year

VenomDaBomb
04/21/2010, 17:01
I still love how I did the guy last year

its good! lots of regen... lol

Hellboy
04/23/2010, 13:22
I'm working on a Hit Girl Mod mounted on a Damien Wayne dial.

So far so good. needs priming and painting and then I'm going to varnish-coat it to keep it from breaking.

Its comic accurate style as opposed to movie version. I gotta say, the Comics costumes are just better IMO. both versions have their strong points. hard to say which I prefer, as there is more to the movie, but the comic is so much more deliciously dark.

VenomDaBomb
04/23/2010, 15:44
I'm working on a Hit Girl Mod mounted on a Damien Wayne dial.

So far so good. needs priming and painting and then I'm going to varnish-coat it to keep it from breaking.

Its comic accurate style as opposed to movie version. I gotta say, the Comics costumes are just better IMO. both versions have their strong points. hard to say which I prefer, as there is more to the movie, but the comic is so much more deliciously dark.

yeah like the car battery scene.

Hellboy
04/23/2010, 16:54
and "Code Red" which apon rereading It I realize I miss from the story.

"Is that Cocaine?!"

"No stupid! Its a super secret chemical compound..."
<<snort>>
"...Made by scientsts~!"

Troma99
04/23/2010, 20:07
For My Daddy and For Your Balls

kelleysb
04/26/2010, 22:19
Err...not wanting to troll, but couldn't you just snap Alfred off his base and put on Kick ### and it would be movie accurate (maybe a little over powered). :)

Come on, part of the love of the movie is that he was basically a bystander with a good seat.

As far as a 200 point hit girl...sure, she should be able to go toe to toe against superman, it is the comics after all, right?

Hellboy
04/27/2010, 10:59
She should lose.

but she should be in that fight.

that's all.

prof_obscure
05/04/2010, 14:10
Here is my daughter at FCBD!

http://tumblr.com/x7e9eoc2x

I too am working on some Kick-### dials. I think Hit Girl shouldn't be any more powerful than a spiderman or an elektra, and I think Kick-### should be mostly a support piece (willpower, perplex) unless its the finale` version from the movie!

Troma99
05/04/2010, 16:43
Here is my daughter at FCBD!

http://tumblr.com/x7e9eoc2x

I too am working on some Kick-### dials. I think Hit Girl shouldn't be any more powerful than a spiderman or an elektra, and I think Kick-### should be mostly a support piece (willpower, perplex) unless its the finale` version from the movie!

Yeah because in the Finale of the comic he was pretty much the same...all he did was beat the #### out of the Mist with two chair legs.



on a side note: Cute Black widow Chick and an "Awww cute" for your daughter

luthorcorps24
01/16/2011, 04:03
hi everyone

i see lots of people post here to watch some dials of KICK-###

well actually im already creating some of them (my style of characters are based to work on 300 teams (also alter-egos), so if you think are too high you could tell me).

Characters ive made

KICK-###
Team Affilations: Teen, Celebrity
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 75 / 35

m-normala-normald-normalg-normal
810172811172
710163
AE711163
610152
69151KOKOKOKO

:m-boot: Bring it On!:
KICK-### can use Charge and Flurry, When KICK-### use Charge and he has no other action tokens before, other friendly adjacent characters (before moving) can use Charge.

:a-fist: Tazer:
Once per Game, KICK-### can use Incapacitate with a range value of 4. If this action hits, deal 1 unavoidable damage to the opposing character.

DAVE LIZEWSKI
Team Affilations: Teen
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: / 35


m-normala-normald-normalg-normal7815171015269141711141KOKOKOKO

:m-boot: Alter Ego: KICK-###
Give Dave Lizewski a power action and replace this character with a Kick-### on its orange starting line. Existing Action tokens from this character as well as actions tokens ans pushing damage for this action are applied to the replacement Kick-###. If replaced no victory points asr awared for this character and the replacement Kick-### is considered to be 35 points for all game effects.

:g-starburst: IT´S JUST A GEEK (Shape Change)

And soon ill post:

- HIT-GIRL
- MINDY MACREADY
- BIG DADDY
- RED MIST :m-boot-trans:
- KICK-### :m-wing:
- HIT GIRL (Dark Glasses)

later

Troma99
01/16/2011, 09:36
ztoooo powerful...completely missing the point of Kick-### its not about ideal fanboy-ism its about fan boy ism in the real world.

Hellboy
01/16/2011, 10:00
good dial design on Kick ### specifically would be cheap cheap cheap (and I don't think Æ is necessary) Useful against groups, but with stats and powers that would only be good against small fry.

I'd give him a special toughness power that says "If Kick ### is dealt two damage or less, reduce that damage by one" Showing that he's tough and can take some licks, but he is far from superhuman. Besides that, I think I'd just give him Flurry and charge with a short move.

Big Daddy and Hit girl could get the really strategic dials. But Kick ### should be super cheap, and only good in a support role.

luthorcorps24
01/16/2011, 10:56
ztoooo powerful...completely missing the point of Kick-### its not about ideal fanboy-ism its about fan boy ism in the real world.

good dial design on Kick ### specifically would be cheap cheap cheap (and I don't think Æ is necessary) Useful against groups, but with stats and powers that would only be good against small fry.

I'd give him a special toughness power that says "If Kick ### is dealt two damage or less, reduce that damage by one" Showing that he's tough and can take some licks, but he is far from superhuman. Besides that, I think I'd just give him Flurry and charge with a short move.

Big Daddy and Hit girl could get the really strategic dials. But Kick ### should be super cheap, and only good in a support role.

well, those ones are my first dials makes afterall :/
(hoping the other dial looks better and try to stay away from cheap)

Troma99
01/16/2011, 11:23
NO they SHOULD BE CHEAP. Kick-### is an out of shape teeanger with delusions of grandeur...

Ultim8 Avenger
01/16/2011, 11:35
okay. i've seen the movie.


suprisingly good

luthorcorps24
01/16/2011, 12:08
BTW i forgot to post this object

Bazooka
light Object
20 points

a character that picks this object gains the following
Power Action:

- Energy Explosion with locked damage value of 3
to the attacking target
(if a character has 0 range, it has 6 instead)
after this action its solved, remove this object.

Hellboy
01/17/2011, 00:25
okay. i've seen the movie.


suprisingly good

right?

why would you doubt?