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lancelot
04/04/2010, 23:23
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=669&pictureid=7912

Featuring: THE TRINITY
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Read inside to find out all about The Trinity in this different take on COMIC ACCURATE: DC EDITION!

lancelot
04/05/2010, 00:36
With Heroclix entering a distinct Modern Age block, it is quite easy to dip through the respective eras of Heroclix to see what Trinity combinations were available. Chronicling the tales where the three heroes meet for the first time and lay the foundations of heroism that later would be the Justice League of America, the Wagner story is a must read. For a summary, go here: The Trinity. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman/Superman/Wonder_Woman:_Trinity)

As for their Heroclix counterparts, we'll visit the "Golden, Silver, and Modern Ages" of Heroclix with the respective breakdowns: Golden Age, Hypertime -> Legacy; Silver Age, Icons -> Origin; Modern Age, Justice League -> Arkham Asylum.

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Starting with the Golden Age, one would expect lackduster dial design, flagging values, and mostly front-loaded action. One wouldn't be disappointed with this team 454-point team (plenty of room for feats!), despite the premier HSS piece back in the day headlining this team:

ht141 LE Superman
Team: Superman Ally
Range: 8 :bolt:
Points: 236
Archenemy: Doomsday (Blue)
Keywords: Justice League of America, JLA, Metropolis, Reporter
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ht107 E Batman
Team: Batman Ally
Range: 6 :bolt::bolt:
Points: 92
Archenemy: Joker (Grey)
Keywords: Gotham City, Martial Artist
m-boota-fistd-shieldg-starburst109163109153991429814288132871228711276102KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

cj078 V Wonder Woman
Team: Justice League
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 126
Archenemy: Circe (Yellow)
Keywords: Amazon, JLA, Justice League Europe, Justice League International
m-winga-fistd-shieldg-starburst10111731010173101016389162891528915278152781427714267142KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

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The Golden Age era also brought us our first Kingdom Come incarnations of the Trinity within a single set, who would hit hard and fast...with the exception of Batman. This Trinity comes out to 651 points:

un095 U Superman
Team: Kingdom Come
Range: 10 :bolt:
Points: 265
Archenemy: Magog (Red)
Keywords: Future
m-winga-fistd-shieldg-starburst121317512121751211175101116510111641010164910174910174991739916399163KOKOKOKO

un094 U Batman
Team: Kingdom Come
Range: 6 :bolt::bolt:
Points: 188
Keywords: Armor, Future, Gotham City
m-winga-fistd-shieldg-starburst10111531011143101014291014299132991328812188121KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

un093 U Wonder Woman
Team: Kingdom Come
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 198
Keywords: Armor, Future, Warrior
m-winga-fistd-shieldg-starburst1013183101218310121731011163811153810153810143891638915388143KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/23749/766108-trinity_large.jpg
With Icons marking perhaps the very first case of power-creep in Heroclix, we move into the Silver Age of Heroclixing! As mentioned, Icons epitomized power...and more power, all in a single set. Clocking in just under 500 points at 497, this team can still strike terror in the hearts of players:

io048 V Superman
Team: Superman Ally
Range: 10 :bolt:
Points: 251
Archenemy: Lex Luthor (Blue)
Keywords: Metropolis, JLA, Justice League of America, Justice League
m-winga-fistd-shieldg-starburst13121851211175101116410101851010175991649915498175881658715487143KOKOKOKO

io042 V Batman
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 8 :bolt::bolt:
Points: 119
Archenemy: The Joker (Grey)
Keywords: Celebrity, Bludhaven, Gotham City, Metropolis
m-boota-fistd-shieldg-starburst1011173910173891638916278152781526714167141KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

io033 V Wonder Woman
Team: Justice League
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 127
Keywords: Amazon, Justice League International, JLA
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http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7882/silvjsa.jpg
We cap the Silver Age era with the JSA incarnations of the Trinity, which clocks in a svelte 188 points (!!!):

or096 U Superman
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 93
Keywords: Justice Society, Metropolis
m-boota-fistd-shieldg-starburst10101841010184991739916399163891538815288142KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

or095 U Batman
Team: Batman Ally
Range: 4 :bolt:
Points: 44
Keywords: Detective, Gotham City, Justice Society
m-boota-fistd-shieldg-starburst89162791627916179151681516815268142KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

or211 LE Wonder Woman
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 4 :bolt:
Points: 51
Keywords: Amazon, Justice Society
m-boota-fistd-shieldg-starburst99173810163891527815278142681416713167131KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/thumb/b/bb/JLA_1000000.jpg/300px-JLA_1000000.jpg
Fittingly enough that we begin the Modern Age with the futuristic Justice Legion A versions of the Trinity which comes in at 520 points:

jl060 V Superman
Team: Justice League
Range: 10 :bolt:
Points: 283
Keywords: Future, Justice Legion A, Metropolis
m-winga-fistd-shieldg-starburst101018410101839101739917388162771511111183101018210917299162KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

jl058 V Batman
Team: Justice League
Range: 6 :bolt:
Points: 117
Keywords: Future, Justice Legion A
m-winga-fistd-shieldg-starburst810173810173710162711162710152791526915269142KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO(Damage) Datarangs: Give Batman a range combat action and modify his damage value by -1; the line of fire for the attack is not affected by hindering terrain or characters.

jl059 E Wonder Woman
Team: Justice League
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 120
Keywords: Amazon, Future, Justice Legion A
m-winga-fistd-shieldg-starburst810173810173891737917378162781626815267153KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO(Attack) Lasso: Wonder Woman can use Incapacitate as if she has a range of 8.
(Damage) Harmony and Charity: Wonder Woman can use Perplex, but she can target only herself.

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Now, this is the team I consider THE Trinity, totaling 549 points, until we see what we get with them in The Brave and The Bold:

jl046 E Superman
Team: Justice League
Range: 10 :bolt:
Points: 226
Keywords: Justice League, JLA, Justice League of America, Metropolis, Reporter
m-winga-fistd-shieldg-starburst10111831010183121017410101641091649917399183991938819288202KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO(Defense) Self Sacrifice: When a friendly character adjacent to Superman would be dealt damage, you can instead choose to have all the damage be dealt to Superman as unavoidable damage.

jl001 V Batman
Team: Batman Ally
Range: 6 :bolt:
Points: 75
Keywords: Detective, Gotham City, JLA, Justice League, Justice League of America, Justice League International, Outsiders
m-boota-fistd-shieldg-starburst8111737101627916178151610152610152611142KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO(Speed) Out of the Shadows: Once per turn, when Batman occupies hindering terrain and is given any action that is not a free action, before the action you may place Batman in any square of hindering terrain 6 or fewer squares away to which he has a clear line of fire.

aa023 V Wonder Woman
Team: Justice League
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 248
Keywords: Amazon, JLA, Justice League, Politician, Warrior
m-winga-fistd-indomitableg-starburst10121851012184811175811174711174710174710173891638916389153KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO(Attack) Tie Up: Wonder Woman can use Super Strength and Incapacitate (as if she had a range of 6). When she uses Incapacitate and successfully hits a target opposing character, you can give an action token to a second opposing character that has zero or one token that is adjacent to the target, if the attack roll would also hit the second character.
(Defense) Bullets and Bracelets: Wonder Woman can use Invulnerability. When Wonder Woman is the target of a ranged combat attack, she can use Super Senses.
(Damage) Ambassador: Wonder Woman can use Leadership and Perplex (though she can target only other characters).

And that's what we have up to date! With the Clark Kent/Superman and Diana Prince/Wonder Woman point costs spoiled at 48/216 and 32/108 respectively, we should be getting a real nice Bruce Wayne/Batman Alter Ego combination coming in at 20/76 for a nice Trinity plainclothes team of 100 and a true team at 400. We shall see! Come back in two weeks for the next installation of COMIC ACCURATE: DC EDITION which will definitely be incorporating figures found in TB&TB!

AUKOS
04/05/2010, 00:43
nice original piece and well written.




AUKOS

Silver Lantern
04/05/2010, 00:52
Great article man, have to do an addendum once BatB hits.

For your last team: I would have probably used Chase From the Gargoyles Batman for a team coming in just 2 aliases shy of 600.

Grategy
04/05/2010, 01:01
I probably would have used the Gargoyle Bats as well. When I generally think of bats I always think of him sitting amongst the gargoyles... Brooding. Its just a nice figure with a stupidly comic accurate special power. These were all nice choices though for sure! Keep it up!

fastcat99
04/05/2010, 01:03
Great article man, have to do an addendum once BatB hits.

I would have probably used Chase From the Gargoyles Batman for a team coming in just 2 aliases shy of 600.

Good call! The chase would be cool in that.

I would also wonder about using Man of Steel with that wicked defend!

BTW, I really dig this article! There are lots of combos I wouldn't have considered. Thanks!

dariusq
04/05/2010, 01:08
Here's an interesting thought: what if the BatB Trinity form a perfect 300-500pt team? With teams like Warriors Three and the move away from FCs wouldn't that be logical? Even better, if the AE Trinity form a perfect 200pt team too.

Also, what if the blank spots between BatB Black Hand & Nekron are actually Wonder Woman chase figs? Can you imagine having a chase Trinity?! :)

charlesdward
04/05/2010, 01:22
I like this one:

io046 R Superman
Team: Superman Ally
Range: 10 :bolt:
Points: 197
Archenemy: Lex Luthor (Blue)
Keywords: Celebrity, Metropolis, Reporter
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jl001 V Batman
Team: Batman Ally
Range: 6 :bolt:
Points: 75
Keywords: Detective, Gotham City, JLA, Justice League, Justice League of America, Justice League International, Outsiders
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(Speed) Out of the Shadows: Once per turn, when Batman occupies hindering terrain and is given any action that is not a free action, before the action you may place Batman in any square of hindering terrain 6 or fewer squares away to which he has a clear line of fire.

io033 V Wonder Woman
Team: Justice League
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 127
Keywords: Amazon, Justice League International, JLA
m-winga-fistd-starburstg-starburst101017510101658916489164891537815378153781426714267132KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

...which comes to a tidy 399 points. Usually I prefer Man of Steel as my Supes of choice, but he's just a couple points over for this build. But then, rookie Icons Supes is not that bad, either.

charlesdward
04/05/2010, 01:36
I've also played this variation, which is unbelievably fun...

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=743&pictureid=9102

io046 R Superman
Team: Superman Ally
Range: 10 :bolt:
Points: 197
Archenemy: Lex Luthor (Blue)
Keywords: Celebrity, Metropolis, Reporter
m-winga-fistd-starburstg-starburst121117510101651010174991649915398174881638715387142KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

io032 E Wonder Woman
Team: Justice League
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 109
Keywords: Amazon, Justice League of America
m-winga-fistd-starburstg-starburst10101658916489164891537815378153781426714267132KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

or095 U Batman
Team: Batman Ally
Range: 4 :bolt:
Points: 44
Keywords: Detective, Gotham City, Justice Society
m-boota-fistd-starburstg-starburst89162791627916179151681516815268142KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

cd088 U Ambush Bug
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 50
Keywords:
m-boota-fistd-starburstg-starburst10715110714196131861217511.KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

Exactly 400 points.

GraveTheDarkestHero
04/05/2010, 01:36
Great article, Good team idea's. Here are some Trinity teams i used.

120 AA 099 Batman
200 CD 222 The Man of Steel
127 IO 033 Wonder Woman
447pts

251 IO 048 Superman
75 JL 001 Batman
127 IO 033 Wonder Woman
453

Both good 500pts teams.

Or to Mess with those people who Hate to "Mix Universes"

93 OR 096 Superman
44 OR 095 Batman
51 OR 211 Wonder Woman
72 HA 040 Captain America
100 MU200 Iron Man
112 SV082 Thor
472 (and of course there is many other point varients of this team)

So those are some teams I use that involve the "Trinity"

MacGyver2506
04/05/2010, 03:13
Nice article! The Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman protrayed in DC Origins are from the Golden Age (1930s-1940s), not the Silver Age (1950s-1960s).
And (supposedly) The DC Origins: Wonder Woman is Hippolyta, not Diana Prince. I don't like that since it changes Diana's origins (pun intended), but apparently it's true.

tidge
04/05/2010, 06:08
Nice article! The Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman protrayed in DC Origins are from the Golden Age (1930s-1940s), not the Silver Age (1950s-1960s).

In addition to WK's weird use of "ages", the author of the OP self-defined certain "ages"....which really made this article confusing (to me). It's particularly weird in the case of 'trinity', because (merchandising aside) the concept of the 'big three' as a force in the DCU is IIRC younger than Heroclix!

ChiRocker
04/05/2010, 07:49
Can't wait to find the Point Values of batb Bruce Wayne and Batman. If they are 20 and 76 respectfully, then the Trinity in that set will be 100 points even for the Civvies and 400 points even for the Heroes. Either way, I know I will be playing them a lot!

Rurouni KJS
04/05/2010, 09:59
The 200-point Golden Age "trinity" team is excellent fun. Put Lunge on Superman and Batman for the most win.

flakbait
04/05/2010, 11:24
How about the sidekicks?

Wonder Girl (Crisis)
Nightwing (Crisis) w/Heightened Reflexes
Supergirl (Origin Exp) w/Fortitude
400 points

or for Modern Age (which is ironically an older version of the team)
Supergirl (CR)
Boy Wonder (CR)
Donna Troy (CR)
298 points

ChiRocker
04/05/2010, 12:46
AA Robin
OR V Wonder Girl
LG Connor Kent

Total 297

lancelot
04/05/2010, 16:39
Nice article! The Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman protrayed in DC Origins are from the Golden Age (1930s-1940s), not the Silver Age (1950s-1960s).
And (supposedly) The DC Origins: Wonder Woman is Hippolyta, not Diana Prince. I don't like that since it changes Diana's origins (pun intended), but apparently it's true.

I knew that about Wonder Woman...just hoping TDrake doesn't take me up on that! :laugh:

I always get my JSA eras mixed up!

lancelot
04/05/2010, 16:41
because (merchandising aside) the concept of the 'big three' as a force in the DCU is IIRC younger than Heroclix!

Good point. I realize that using my own "Ages" would've been confusing but I wanted to be clear on the "lines" separating the Ages.

I still reach all the way back to the "Golden Age" of Heroclix for plenty of characters on my squads.

lancelot
04/05/2010, 16:42
I probably would have used the Gargoyle Bats as well.

Well, yeah, sure, he's better, I just wanted to keep the teams I post as generally accessible to most players. Chases, as we all know, are another story entirely :laugh:

From the squads I posted, there's only one LE...Origin LE Wonder Woman. The rest, you should be able to grab from your REV tackleboxes and run a team!

mikeinmke
04/05/2010, 19:20
I have an earnest question for y'all:

When I assemble teams, I still try to follow a rule of thumb of including at least two or three more characters than I would have actions in a turn (roughly). HeroClix is, after all, an action-based game and was conceived as such (as witnessed by the great point cost for powers like Leadership).

For those of you who have played this so-called trinity: how can such a small force (of only three) fare against a more balanced, more numerous bunch of foes?

tidge
04/05/2010, 19:47
For those of you who have played this so-called trinity: how can such a small force (of only three) fare against a more balanced, more numerous bunch of foes?

I've played the 600-point version (w/ Lamppost Bats) and the 200-point version (Origin U/LE/FCBD).

The 200 point version is simply surprising, as few players expect much from the team, and typically don't play their own 200-point teams like the 200-point forces of old.

The 600-point team usually has opponents going all-out to KO Batman, without realizing that the other two figures are almost twice his cost for a reason. The worst part about the 600 point version is that it isn't a theme team (too few characters). Min maxxer should have few problems facing the 600-point squad, but it won't be easy.

VictorySaber
04/05/2010, 19:55
Kinda funny that this came up... Not long ago, I ran a comic cover team BASED on that TPB Trinity cover...

500 points

Man of Steel+Fortitude and Lunge
Gargoyles Batman + Lunge, Swingline and protected
Vet Icons Wonder Woman
I may have put the protected on Diana instead, but I really don't recall...

all kindsa fun, especially when I ran on the Horrorclix Castle map. oh, fun and torturous indeed.

And as for how 3 manage against 5-7? All in how one uses what you have. I dun care if you've got ten pieces if you don't have the means to work around the perma-stealth, the see-thru hindering/stealth, the often 1-shot knock-outs that 2/3, if not 3/3 of certain trinity manifestations can deliver, the better parts of 2 dials that are all damage reduction... and any other madness that may be thrown into the mix.... i.e. Gargoyle Bats or a Superman picking up.. .oh, I dunno, Mjolnir? If you're skilled at tentpole teams, running the Trinity is an ideal test of your mettle, as 2 of the 3 figures in and of themselves could BE tentpoles for such a team. Again, granted I've only ever run this particular incarnation... if given the opportunity with higher totals, I would be interested to swap out and try other combos of them... this one just happened to be League Keyword so I ran with it.

Batman1983
04/06/2010, 01:44
These sound fun:

251 V I Superman
248 V AA Wonder Woman
070 (BA 031) The Batman
027 Leg Oracle

for a 597 point JLA theme team. or...

276 V I Superman w/Fortitude
273 V AA Wonder Woman w/ Fortitude
047 I Starter Batman

that comes to 596... room for a Vault, Alias, etc, but not a Lunge. :disappointed:

charlesdward
04/06/2010, 03:50
These sound fun:

251 V I Superman
248 V AA Wonder Woman
070 (BA 031) The Batman
027 Leg Oracle

for a 597 point JLA theme team. or...

276 V I Superman w/Fortitude
273 V AA Wonder Woman w/ Fortitude
047 I Starter Batman

that comes to 596... room for a Vault, Alias, etc, but not a Lunge. :disappointed:
For the 4 points, I'd throw Hold The Line on Supes for a mini-flurry. His AV is high enough that the penalty is not so bad, and he can use it on every click.

WolvieFan9
04/06/2010, 07:04
Good article!

Another favorite option of mine for the Origins team is the purple-ring Free Comic Book Day Batman from that set...

#or214P LE Batman
Team: Batman Ally
Range: 6 /
Points: 53 m-normala-normald-normalg-normal8101618101528915278152681426814167131KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

With OR U Superman and LE Wonder Woman, this team clocks in at 197 points -- throw an Alias on Superman and you've got a good 200 point team. While you lose the Lunges and the Perplex on Bats, you pick up mid-dial Outwit and a 6-range Batman.

George Smiley
04/06/2010, 15:59
I was surprised that no one suggested the "Man of Steel" variant of Superman.

lancelot
04/06/2010, 16:10
I was surprised that no one suggested the "Man of Steel" variant of Superman.

Really? Hmmm...

Good call! The chase would be cool in that.

I would also wonder about using Man of Steel with that wicked defend!

BTW, I really dig this article! There are lots of combos I wouldn't have considered. Thanks!

Kinda funny that this came up... Not long ago, I ran a comic cover team BASED on that TPB Trinity cover...

500 points

Man of Steel+Fortitude and Lunge
Gargoyles Batman + Lunge, Swingline and protected
Vet Icons Wonder Woman (sic)

:laugh:

George Smiley
04/06/2010, 16:19
Sorry, I missed it.

DarkLordVerjal
04/06/2010, 16:30
Love all your "COMIC ACCURACY" articles, always great. But personally I feel the Kingdom Comes/Legacy/Unleashed and the Icons Trinity are the the one true Trinity to date(pre-Brave and the Bold). I dislike AA Wonder Woman being priced so high and feel that her Icons counterpart is more comic accurate. Regardless, great work.

deshwitat000
04/07/2010, 02:33
here you go my non-Trinity Trinity team

CD221 Superman Robot 100
CR200 Batman 90
JL037 Wonder Woman 94

284 with some room for cards

Big Trouble
04/07/2010, 09:51
And I figure I would offer my 800 point Trinity

CR061 World's Finest - 500
AWF002 Life Model Decoy - 12 (to help with any Psychic Blast and missing the Super Senses rolls in the late dial)
CRF004 Sidestep - 10
LGF003 ICWO - 10

AA023 Wonder Woman - 248
MMF003 Haymaker - 10
LGF003 ICWO - 10

for a perfect 800 points. The times I've played this, WF has the target on it's back, and Diana pretty much reigns havoc down on the opponent with a dumpster and or haymaker.

When the original Trinity miniseries came out (featuring the "first" meeting of the three) I played a 400 point team:

Rookie Icons Wonder Woman - 84
Rookie Icons Batman - 79
Rookie Icons Superman - 197

for 360 points. Add in 40 points of feats and stir.

Gretsnig
04/07/2010, 21:14
Wouldn't a trinity team also be Owlman, Super Woman and Ultraman?

lancelot
04/08/2010, 00:04
Wouldn't a trinity team also be Owlman, Super Woman and Ultraman?

Which I technically did two weeks ago :laugh:

rorschachknew
04/09/2010, 01:14
repped for not assuming we all have chases.
mine:

226 PT JL Supes
75 PT JL Bats
84(?) Wonder Woman Icons


Plenty of room for feats

Washco
04/11/2010, 05:07
What would you guys consider Marvels 'trinity' and how would they stack up to the DC 'trinity'?

thebigZZZZZ
04/11/2010, 16:24
What would you guys consider Marvels 'trinity' and how would they stack up to the DC 'trinity'?

that would be difficult to ddetermine who is the third of the trinity...while Captain America and Spider Man are guaranteed to take Superman's and Batman's place...but who is taking Wonder Woman's place? Thor? Hulk? Iron Man? Mr. Fantastic? Cyclops? Wolverine? I am leaning toward Hulk as the one because he's the most recognized character easily spanning way back to 1970s where he has his own TV show, played by Lou Ferringo.

so it's Capt. America, Spider Man, and....Hulk.

lancelot
04/11/2010, 20:36
Spider-Man an AVENGER?!?

Nooo, it's Cap, Thor, and Iron Man. There's no female equivalent to WW.

VictorySaber
04/11/2010, 20:48
um... I think Carol Danvers would take exception to that. And frankly.. so would She-Hulk. if you're gonna talk on power levels, there IS no matchup. But all things told...


Superman- closest maybe would be Thor... particularly since I really have lost any respect for the Sentry pieces we've got now....

Batman- most people would say Cap... I gotta go with Spidey. The rogues gallery, the most oft used modes of transport, the unpredictability... and a lotta folks really don't give Petey the props he deserves. Sorry Tony, but the rich boy bit doesn't cut it here. this is one point where power sets and whatnot overlay perhaps better than any other- Spidey/Bats

Diana- She-Hulk or Ms. Marvel. Carol's come into the spotlight a great deal and so has Shulkie... She-hulk focusing mostly on the fact she's a close in beatdown machine... Carol's more capable of things at range.... but newho...

lancelot
04/11/2010, 20:57
Sure, if you're talking about going across the board to find equivalents but if we're talking classical, which the DC Trinity is, then it's no question Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor.

Batman1983
04/13/2010, 00:22
Agreed. Classically Thor, Iron Man & Capt. A are billed by Marvel as their "trinity". Spiderman is a loner. Pop culture wise Superman, Batman & Spiderman are the trinity though as none of the other 4 have quite had the lasting success that those three do.

226 HoT Thor
100 FCBD Iron Man
072 HoT Capt. America

398

Upgrade Iron Man to SI and add feats for a 500pt version.

charlesdward
04/20/2010, 19:16
Ok, now that BatB is out... here's a 400 pointer I mean to try at the earliest available opportunity. Finally I can fit in my Man of Steel!

cd222 U The Man of Steel
Team: Superman Ally
Range: 8 :bolt:
Points: 200
Keywords: Gotham City, JLA, Justice League, Metropolis
m-winga-fistd-starburstg-starburst12111851012184101117410111759101749101639915389173108184128195KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

ht107 E Batman
Team: Batman Ally
Range: 6 :bolt::bolt:
Points: 92
Archenemy: Joker (Grey)
Keywords: Gotham City, Martial Artist
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#018 <b>AE Wonder Woman</b>
Team: <b>No Affiliation</b>
Range: <b>0 <img src="images/smilies/hcdialicons/bolt.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Target Bolt" class="inlineimg" /></b>
Points: <b>108/<font color="DarkOrange">32</font></b>
<table class="tborder" cellspacing="1" border="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td style="border-right:2px solid #00AA00; background: #000000;" ><table cellspacing="1" border="0" cellpadding="2"><tr><td><img src="/images/units-m-wing.gif" height="18" width="18" /></td><tr><td><img src="/images/units-a-normal.gif" height="18" width="18" /></td><tr><td><img src="/images/units-d-normal.gif" height="18" width="18" /></td><tr><td><img src="/images/units-g-normal.gif" height="18" width="18" /></td></table></td><td><table cellspacing="1" border="0" cellpadding="1" class="power"><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="red">9</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="green">10</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="gray">17</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="none">4</td></tr></table></td><td><table cellspacing="1" border="0" cellpadding="1" class="power"><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="red">9</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="green">9</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="orange">17</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="purple">3</td></tr></table></td><td><table cellspacing="1" border="0" cellpadding="1" class="power"><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="green">9</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="green">9</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="orange">17</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="purple">2</td></tr></table></td><td><table cellspacing="1" border="0" cellpadding="1" class="power"><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="green">8</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="special">9</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="orange">17</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="purple">3</td></tr></table></td><td><table cellspacing="1" border="0" cellpadding="1" class="power"><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="darkblue">8</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="special">9</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="yellow">18</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="purple">2</td></tr></table></td><td><table cellspacing="1" border="0" cellpadding="1" class="power"><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="none"><font color="DarkOrange"><b>|</b></font></td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="none"><font color="DarkOrange"><b>|</b></font></td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="none"><font color="DarkOrange"><b>|</b></font></td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="none"><font color="DarkOrange"><b>|</b></font></td></tr></table></td><td><table cellspacing="1" border="0" cellpadding="1" class="power"><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="darkblue">9</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="special">10</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="yellow">17</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="purple">3</td></tr></table></td><td><table cellspacing="1" border="0" cellpadding="1" class="power"><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="darkblue">8</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="special">9</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="yellow">17</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="none">3</td></tr></table></td><td><table cellspacing="1" border="0" cellpadding="1" class="power"><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="darkblue">8</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="special">9</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="yellow">17</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="none">2</td></tr></table></td><td><table cellspacing="1" border="0" cellpadding="1" class="power"><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="ko">KO</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="ko">KO</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="ko">KO</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="ko">KO</td></tr></table></td><td><table cellspacing="1" border="0" cellpadding="1" class="power"><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="ko">KO</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="ko">KO</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="ko">KO</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="ko">KO</td></tr></table></td><td><table cellspacing="1" border="0" cellpadding="1" class="power"><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="ko">KO</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="ko">KO</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="ko">KO</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="ko">KO</td></tr></table></td><td><table cellspacing="1" border="0" cellpadding="1" class="power"><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="ko">KO</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="ko">KO</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="ko">KO</td></tr><tr><td style="height:18px;width:18px;" class="ko">KO</td></tr></table></td></tr></table><b>Attack - Lasso Punch:</b> Give Wonder Woman a power action. Choose a target non-adjacent opposing character within 2 squares of Wonder Woman to whom she has clear line of fire. Place that character in a square of clear terrain adjacent to its current square and Wonder Woman and then she makes a close combat attack as a free action.<br />

Exactly 400 points... I like the huge amount of Defend, which offsets Batman's one real weakness - his rapidly tanking DV. A bit different from the other teams outlined here, mainly because Wonder Woman plays so differently than her previous incarnations.