Brave and the Bold Rules Questions

[Aberrant]

Ok - New set, new special powers. I have two questions so far.

1 - GL&GA "Whenever GL&GA use the duo attack ability for ranged attacks, they can target more than one target with each attack and ignore any damage modifiers from the Duo Attack ability"

Does this mean that, effectively, they can shoot 4 targets in a turn? With 3 base damage each shot? IE, Duo Ranged, they have 10:bolt::bolt: so they can fire on 2 targets, then the second duo attack, they have 10:bolt::bolt: and can fire at 2 more targets?

2 -Lex Luthor & Brainiac - "Lex & Brainiac can use Outwit. Their superman enemy team ability ignores this outwit power"

What precisely does this mean? That they can, in essence, outwit twice if they are next to a smaller Superman enemy?

[Toughest 1 there is]

2 -Lex Luthor & Brainiac - "Lex & Brainiac can use Outwit. Their superman enemy team ability ignores this outwit power"

What precisely does this mean? That they can, in essence, outwit twice if they are next to a smaller Superman enemy?

Yeah, that's what they were getting at.


My question is, does Kid Zoom's power affect all characters on the map? It just says oppsoing characters cannot use Hypersonic Speed....So I'm guessing, yeah, but I can't be sure.

[jackstar7]

Yeah, that's what they were getting at.


My question is, does Kid Zoom's power affect all characters on the map? It just says oppsoing characters cannot use Hypersonic Speed....So I'm guessing, yeah, but I can't be sure.

I believe Lil' Zoom's power says "other" characters can't use HSS. And I believe it is anywhere on the map. Period.

Stop! (non-optional) Other characters can't use Hypersonic Speed


Also... these are best asked in the Rules Section.

[divadaklabart]

Would Harpua or someone be able to answer the question about the multiple targets duo ranged power for Green lantern and Green Arrow? He seems to be a knowledgable go-to guy.

[JDKenada]

Also... these are best asked in the Rules Section.

...and the Kid Zoom one has been answered in said section as it came up the day the figure was previewed. The short answer is no other character on the map can use HSS.

For follow up questions, hit up said Rules section. nbperp and the deputies are there with great regularity, while other players fairly familiar with the rules will point you in the right direction until you get an official word.

[UniqueLoginNamor]

Would Harpua or someone be able to answer the question about the multiple targets duo ranged power for Green lantern and Green Arrow? He seems to be a knowledgable go-to guy.

What's confusing about it? Each attack may target up to two targets.

[nivlac713]

You answered your own questions on the GL & GA. Yes he shoots two guys if he wants twice, with three damage each.

[absolutvt69]

The GL/GA power is due to the fact that you cannot multi-target during a ranged duo attack. This power allows them to do that (and to ignore the -1 damage for the second attack).

As for Brainiac/Luthor, what it's saying, I believe, is that you can use Outwit and if the conditions for the Superman Enemy TA are met, you can use that Outwit as well. So if you're next to a Superman Enemy/Wildcard, you would be able to Outwit twice, I think is what they're getting at.

[jak7890]

Just checking to see if this is as awesome as it looks like to me:

Justice League International
Prerequisite: Justice League International, Justice League Europe, Justice League Antarctica, or Super Buddies keyword

Cost: 3 points per figure w/ at least one of the prerequisite keywords.

All characters on your force w/ at least one of the prereq keywords are assigned this feat and have the following team ability instead of any other TA:

When a character that possesses this team ability would be dealt damage, you can instead choose to reduce damage dealt by 1 if you deal 1 unavoidable damage to a friendly character that possesses this team ability and is adjacent to the first character.

So, My opponent hits my R Martian Manhunter, who is adjacent to my Blue Beetle and Booster Gold. The opponent deals 3 damage to Manhunter; Manhunter's Invulnerability reduces it by 2 and then the JLI ATA reduces it by 1, and BB&BB are dealt 1 unavoidable.

[Quebbster]

Just checking to see if this is as awesome as it looks like to me:



So, My opponent hits my R Martian Manhunter, who is adjacent to my Blue Beetle and Booster Gold. The opponent deals 3 damage to Manhunter; Manhunter's Invulnerability reduces it by 2 and then the JLI ATA reduces it by 1, and BB&BB are dealt 1 unavoidable.

Yup. It's that awesome.

[jak7890]

Yup. It's that awesome.

Sweet! I kinda don't get why people were complaining about it.

[UniqueLoginNamor]

Sweet! I kinda don't get why people were complaining about it.

People were complaining? If you crit hit a Fire Demon (or even perplex up damage), you kill ALL Fire demons on the board!! Good bye swarms!

[mhmike]

People were complaining? If you crit hit a Fire Demon (or even perplex up damage), you kill ALL Fire demons on the board!! Good bye swarms!

he's talkin a bout JLI ATA not Extant but I agree both are :m-dolphin:

[nivlac713]

Did you just say both are swim symbol?

[BigDaddyHub]

No, he said it's :m-dolphin:, :a-sharpshooter:?

[Phoenix_Icewing]

1 - GL&GA "Whenever GL&GA use the duo attack ability for ranged attacks, they can target more than one target with each attack and ignore any damage modifiers from the Duo Attack ability"

Does this mean that, effectively, they can shoot 4 targets in a turn? With 3 base damage each shot? IE, Duo Ranged, they have 10:bolt::bolt: so they can fire on 2 targets, then the second duo attack, they have 10:bolt::bolt: and can fire at 2 more targets?


just to make sure its noted- Duo Attack itself says you have to choose the same Target as the first attack. Since they can chose more than one Target with each attack, they can choose 2 instead of the standard 1 target, but it doesnt say they can choose 2 Different targets. From the wording on their power, youd still have to choose the same target(s)- if still alive after the first shot.
But no damage reducing from duo, yikes. Throw some enhancement in there... a PD team or two....

[Quebbster]

just to make sure its noted- Duo Attack itself says you have to choose the same Target as the first attack.
No it does not.
"ranged attacks against a single target" simply means you cannot attack multiple figures with each ranged duo attack, but it's fine to attack target A with ranged duo attack 1 and target B with ranged duo attack 2.

[Phoenix_Icewing]

Thanks Quebby. I hadn't seen the updates to Duo Attack (and i never use it anyways) but with this, theres a lot more flexibility!

[Quebbster]

Thanks Quebby. I hadn't seen the updates to Duo Attack (and i never use it anyways) but with this, theres a lot more flexibility!

It's not really an update - the duo attack always worked like that.

[bluesummers]

I'm not sure that the OP is reading this right, and maybe no one else noticed this?

Seems to be of the understanding that When GL/GA Shoots, they target two targets with two bolts, hit one, hit two. Hit one does 3 dmg, hit two does 3 dmg.
Then duo attack, again with two bolts, Hit one does 3 dmg, hit two does 3 dmg. Total of 12 damage.

If that is indeed how the OP has interpreted this power, that is not true. Though GL/GA do avoid the negative damage modifier typically granted by Duo Attack, they still have to follow the standard rules for splitting damage like a normal ranged combat attack that just targeted multiple enemy figures.

So, GA/GL can target two figs, hit, and then divide the 3 damage up between the hit targets as they like, still doing only the 3 damage, and then attack again, once more targeting two targets, and then divide the damage up between the hit targets as desired. Total of 6 damage. (or, 8, or 10 depending on their damage value, enhancement, perplex, whatever)

[bluesummers]

Hmmm, well, maybe OP didn't read it like that. Hard to tell in that post.

Oh well, there for posterity, anyway.

[Phoenix_Icewing]

It's not really an update - the duo attack always worked like that.

FWAAAA?? ... you need to have a word with my local judges >.> Quebby to the rescue again! but, "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Quebbster again." ><