Is there a online heroclix price guid?

[kraven]

Well is there, and is ebay a good price guid or not?

[Xavier PhD]

ebay is better than any price guide IMO...

also i think this website has a price guide in myrealms section...

:D

[ktlogan]

e-bay is NOT a price guide

unfortunately alot of people go by "what is the most I can get". Then e-bay could be accurate

[Xavier PhD]

why would people go by "what is the least i can get"?

:rolleyes:

[Ramplate]

eBay is an auction situation, not a fair value guage of what people can resonably expect to pay for figures.

Scrye and Inquest prices are listed in the myRealms section at the top of this page.

[cevn]

in my opinion, scrye and inquest values are meaningless, especially in a game like this one where the value of a figure is based on want AND rarity. also, magazines that have prices are way overpriced, it might be good for comparison between figs, but not a good judgement of what you'll get for your figures. also, not that good of a guide on what you will pay for the figures.

[Xavier PhD]

why is ebay not a fair value gauge? it in fact is the best value gauge we have because it inputs supply and demand perfectly.

if there is a figure in small supply and in large demand then ebay reflects that with high prices and if there is a figure in low demand and low supply then ebay reflects that also.

the price guides on the other hand... i don't know what they base their prices on (do you think they actually sit around in comic book stores polling kids on how much they would pay for a certain figure?). personally i find the prices in inquest very bloated... but i think wizkids has a little to do with this. (okay this is my little conspiracy theory... but i definitely think to keep wizkids on their good side... like this website... inquest ups the value of the figures which makes the figures more in demand, i mean what little kid wouldn't want to buy a booster after seeing the prices in inquest? pretty much according to inquest you can expect an average of a 4 to 5 dollar profit from every booster you buy! this is ridiculous. forget about the stock market, lets just buy boosters because according to inquest i'm going to get at least a 75% return on my investment!!! sell all my stocks now! its a pretty good scam on wizkid's and inquest's parts and i'm jealous i didn't think of this myself)

with this said, price quides like inquest and srye also effect ebay and vice versa, but to pick the lesser of two evils is to pick ebay as a price gauge.

[scowlingone]

EBay is absolutely a perfect price guide. It shows, accurately, what people pay for figures in a worldwide marketplace.

Search EBay under "completed items". Calculate an average of what a given figure has sold for in the last month. That is what you could reasonably expect to pay for the model on EBay, or what you could sell the same model for on EBay.

This relates precisely to the real world; if someone can buy a figure on EBay for $20, why would they pay more than $20 in the real world?

[Spanky]

I totally agree that eBay IS the only price guide you should use. Unless someone is in the stone age, they have access to eBay, and can make purchases there. If the price guides say that a fig like Titania goes for $22, and the most on ebay is $15, plus shipping, I would argue that Titania is not a $22 figure. You could Buy It Now a Titania for $13.99. I really think that inquest and scrye should go by eBay when making there prices. Have you ever, EVER seen a Veteran Captain America sell for $10...TEN DOLLARS? Where does Inquest get this info?

Anyway. eBay is easily the best way to figure out prices.
Thanks
Have fun

[Xavier PhD]

Originally posted by Spanky
Have you ever, EVER seen a Veteran Captain America sell for $10...TEN DOLLARS? Where does Inquest get this info?


i'm telling you its a wizkids/inquest conspiracy to bump up prices and demand!!!

[scowlingone]

Not a Wizkids conspiracy.

It is, however, a concerted effort by the publishers of the price guides, and particularly by the publisher of Inquest/Wizard/ToyFare. Wizard Publishing own a number of comic book stores, and it is in their best interests to see the prices high.

Plus, it is always in the interests of the publishers of price guides to pump up the prices. Folks don't buy price guides when they show prices decreasing, after all.

[Gator]

So if I can sell my collection to the editors of Inquest I could buy a used car or some jewelry for my wife. Fantastic

E-Bay is the only proce guide because it is reflective of market rate. There are also some collections websites where you can by figs and they usually list proces

[Ramplate]

Price guide prices are tabulated from dealers reported sales of collectables and a national average is arrived at by using that information. That is why they are more of a fair value - over Auction prices.

Ultimately value is what two people agree upon in an exchange. An item will not sell for more than what someone is willing to pay.

One more thing - there are an awful lot of winning bids on eBay that never get paid to the seller.
Some sellers just up and keep their figures if they don't like the final bid (that happened to me on two lots that did not have a reserve value) and some people out there make outrageously high bids that they just don't intend to keep.

The sale average in price guides such as Inquest and Scrye - Are transactions that actually happened.

[Coach]

Price guide prices are tabulated from dealers reported sales of collectables and a national average is arrived at by using that information. That is why they are more of a fair value - over Auction prices....etc.

I haven't checked the inquest disclaimer but I highly doubt they've done that much work on heroclix prices...even if they canvassed 200 sales of Vet Cap, they're publishing schedule is a few months back, so once again, something as new and variable as Heroclix is not going to be accurate. I'll take EBAY any old day. The number of unfulfilled ebay sales is very low, especially between buyer/seller with good feedback. And those "outrageously high" bids are very easy to see, and to pull out of your data sample when computing a fair price on EBAY.



Ultimately value is what two people agree upon in an exchange. An item will not sell for more than what someone is willing to pay.

Which is exactly what happens on EBAY! Cool!

There are some effects you see on EBay, that may or may not be reflected in commerce at your local shop: prices paid to sellers with high feedback might go higher because there is a belief that the seller will not misdescribe the condition and product they have. High charges for P&H will depress careful shoppers high bid a bit. I personally am willing to pay more to a seller who accepts Paypal because it is so much more convenient to me than sending a payment. Finally, auctions with no reserve often end up with end prices above what a auction with reserve has for opening price, and which gets no bids!

[ccgtrader_78]

Originally posted by Ramplate
Price guide prices are tabulated from dealers reported sales of collectables and a national average is arrived at by using that information. That is why they are more of a fair value - over Auction prices.

The sale average in price guides such as Inquest and Scrye - Are transactions that actually happened.

That is not completly true...... These so called reported sales from dealers are hiked up tremendously. I know this for a fact. If the price guides are listing a figure at $10 and someone asks how much to buy said figure.... the dealer gives them a "deal" by selling the figure for $5.

They then report to the magazines that they sold it for $8-$10 to keep the "values" high, so they in turn sell more.

Also, you will almost always pay less online than you would in a store. That simply breaks down to costs. The store has a lot more costs than an online retailer so their products are naturally higher.

[scowlingone]

Originally posted by Ramplate
Price guide prices are tabulated from dealers reported sales of collectables and a national average is arrived at by using that information. That is why they are more of a fair value - over Auction prices.

To follow on from what ccg_trader says, that's the way it works in theory, but not the way it works in practice.

There is an incentive for dealers to see prices inflated. Much of the time, price reporting is not actually price reporting; the prices reported are what the dealer would like the item to sell for, not what it has sold for in the past.

EBay, on the other hand, shows what tems have actually sold for. The "fudge factor" is near zero. This is why EBay is a better gauge of true value.

[drhypnotic]

I've got one on my site. I priced the LEs off of what they were selling at on Ebay.. the other figures at the average prices I found for singles on the net.

[Spidersense]

IMO EBay is the best price guide. I keep a chart with a $ next to each figure and update it a couple of times a month.

Keep in mind, that prices on EBay will most of the time go for lower than magazine prices. This is because people are bargain shopping on EBay alot of times.