Buildings... AHHH!!

[Logan Myrddin]

Okay, so my Dr. Strange is on top of a building. My friend attacks the walls of the building with Nightmare, thus doing three damage. But the floor of the building is still elevated. But the wall is gone. But... aaaAAAAGGGHHHH!!!:eek: :rolleyes:

[Earnan]

Exactly :)

He can't do that, those aren't actually walls... they're elevated terrain... ARRRRRRGGGGGGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hate map questions... but I'm right about this one... I hope...

The buildings are buildings. THeir walls cannot be destroyed. This should alleviate some of your headaches...

WarlordEarnan

[Logan Myrddin]

Official ruling please?

[Logan Myrddin]

No offense, Earnan.

[Tsannik]

Okay.... I have to ask what map is this? Indoor or Outdoor?

In an Outdoor map, no Blocking terrain can be destroyed (except for Barrier or the Elevated Blocking Terrain)

In an Indoor map, there is no such thing as Elevated terrain.


Now if your figure was on top of the Elevated Blocking terrain, and someone blew up the wall... well... it creates some sort of strange phenomenon.

Elevated Blocking terrain is the same elevation as regular Elevated terrain. So, destroying one of those walls actually makes close-combat attacks feasible, diong little for anything else.

Does that help?

[HeroComplex]

The rule that you're looking for, Logan, is the second paragraph of the rulebook's elevated terrain section. It consists entirely of the line "elevated terrain cannot be destroyed."

[Funky Jett]

I hate that phrase... Elevated Blocking Terrain. Makes me wish Carrier never invented air conditioning in the first place. The Terrain is not Elevated itself, just the location where that specific Terrain can be found is Elevated. It may not sound like it, but there is a difference between the two...

One way, it sounds like there are three elevations to play on, ground, elevated, and the a/c units. The other way, which is what it really means, is Blocking Terrain that is on Elevated areas.

It almost sounds like it is an Official Edict from the Department of Redundancy Department's Official Edicts Department.

[Logan Myrddin]

Thanks HoreComplex! :o I've been meaning to reread the rulebooks. Think I'll go do that now.

[Logan Myrddin]

:o ....
:o ....
:o ...!!!
SORRY! I DIDN"T MEAN IT! AAAGH!!! CURSE MY OFFENSIVE HAND! I did NOT mean to write HoreComplex! I DON'T have any offensive views of your sexual activities or psychological statuses! PLEASE don't hurt me! It was an honest mistake! AGH!
Let's see... Code of Bushido states that under such conditions, I am to commit Sepuku. Of course, Sepuku is against the law these days, so I'll just go watch the Justice Friends. That should be bad enough.

[Tsannik]

LOL....

But Seriously....

LOL....

Nope, can't laugh... not funny

LOL...

Sorry, HeroComplex.... but that was probably the funniest unintentional mistyping I've read today.

[HeroComplex]

I almost don't want to tell him that there's an edit button...
I mean, he brought up Sepuku...I gotta respect that...;)

[dasDarke]

Use the edit button for that:

It's "seppuku" ;)

double p

das Darke

[CursedSoul]

*rofl*

This is one of the most unusual mistypings...

But remember:
Suicide is fleeing!

[VooDoo Child]

Okay so The Air conditioners on the classic outdoor marvel map can not be destroyed? We had someone trying to using them as elevated above the normal building level and as Hindering terrain (he had E Batman up there). We ruled that they were not hindering terrain, but were elevated higher then the building; it was just a friendly game.

[HeroComplex]

The AC units are Elevated Blocking Terrain, which Tsannik mentioned in his first post above. They can be destroyed:They can be destroyed, each space requires a different attack, and only a single rubble tile is placed in the destroyed space.They aren't hindering terrain, but also aren't quite another level of elevation. Here's a summation from Xanth on the rulings for EBT to date, which will be updated as needed.Originally posted by Xanth
1. They are blocking terrain and do not form another elevation level although they have certain attributes of an elevation
2. Only flyers or characters with Leap can end their turn on them
3. They can be destroyed (in spite of what page 18 of the rule book says) and become hindering terrain
4. They are destroyed by a character able to inflict 3 damage on them and don't require a dice roll except when using Blades or Hypersonic Speed attack
5. A Leaper or flyer on them is adjacent to only figures in other outdoor blocking terrain squares. A request has been made to Chapeau to determine if a Leaper on the roof could close attack a fig on the Elevated Blocking Terrain
6. a figure on the EBT can range attack a figure who is on the roof as long as the LOF does not pass through a blocking terrain square side of the square occupied by the shooter. Since EBT is considered the same level as the roof, the LOF will be blocked by intervening elevated figures and hindering terrain will give all bonuses.
7. A figure standing on an EBT square will not suffer damage as a result of that EBT square being destroyed
8. Current Chapeauism is that a fig cannot be knocked back off an EBT since it would mean crossing a blocking terrain line. This is disputed and is awaiting resolution.

[Logan Myrddin]

But a figure on the ground still can't attack a figure on a building, even through a destroyed ET wall? Or can you not destroy an ET wall?

[Earnan]

*pout*

Why am I less official than Tsannik or *snicker* HeroComplex? :)

If you are talking about an Outdoor map, then that terrain cannot be destroyed. A character with Leap/Climb would be able to attack the figure on the building, but that's it.

WarlordEarnan

[Logan Myrddin]

OH MY GOD! APOLOGIES EARNAN!!! I DIDN'T Check, and I didn't see the little title (JUDGE) by you name! I am SO sorry!

[Xanth]

Don't worry Earnan. We are all equally UNofficial. The only one who is official is Chapeau-sama. The most we can do is humbly report what he said or quote the rules, FAQ etc.;)

[Earnan]

Oh, trust me, I know how UNofficial we are, Xanth... I remember back when the game released and noone would listen to anything we wrote....

Don't worry about it, Logan. I was just messing with you. Personally, I'd listen to Tsannik and HeroComplex before I'd listen to myself too, so it's all good.

Take care, all,
WarlordEarnan

[Xanth]

Originally posted by Earnan
Personally, I'd listen to Tsannik and HeroComplex before I'd listen to myself too, so it's all good.



So don't believe this unless you hear it from Tsannik or Hero.:p

[Tsannik]

Tsannik is borken.

[Xanth]

:D