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Slade Wilson
04/22/2010, 18:48
Who Would Win Black Adam or the Sentry.
ok you know the drill let have your thoughts...
One has the power of the Gods, the other the power of 1,000 exploding suns.
bonkers1978
04/22/2010, 18:50
I HATE Sentry. He is one of the biggest rip-off of recent memory.
robedestroyer
04/22/2010, 18:52
I used to like the Sentry when he showed up. Now my thoughts? The Sentry is the biggest ###### Bag in comics today. Unfortunately, because of how stupid this character has become, I do believe he would undoubtedly beat Black Adam. Seriously, they explain how he came to become the Sentry by saying he was a drug addict? How stupid is that? I apologize for being so blunt, I will calm down now and go have some chai tea.
HH2011003
04/22/2010, 18:57
In Black Adam's first appearance he was banished to the very end of the universe, and he was so pissed off that he spent the next FEW THOUSAND YEARS flying straight back to Earth. He's a tough dude.
The Sentry was only good in his miniseries... which was all about why a character like The Sentry can't exist in the Marvel Universe.
robedestroyer
04/22/2010, 19:00
I hate the Sentry as much as the next guy, but how could Black Adam beat him when The Sentry can control reality now? Unless there is a really good conclusion to Siege that explains it all and gives the Sentry a purpose, whoever came up with that character should be banned from working in the comic book industry. I think a room full of ######## monkeys could come up with a better character than the Sentry.
EDIT: Can't say the word that would describe someone who is "special" so just put that word in place of the ########
Slade Wilson
04/22/2010, 19:03
I HATE Sentry. He is one of the biggest rip-off of recent memory.
I agree but this is not a popularity contest its a question of who would beat who.
VanTheMan
04/22/2010, 19:18
The Sentry All the way, Black Adam is strong but with the way The Sentry is portrayed in siege(so far), The Sentry would rip Black Adam apart. Literally. :)
Aberrant
04/22/2010, 19:26
The Sentry if he is in the mood to do so. He may not fight back, but if he does he either outlasts Black Adam or, if he is feeling saucy, murders him with ease.
HH2011003
04/22/2010, 19:26
The Sentry All the way, Black Adam is strong but with the way The Sentry is portrayed in siege(so far), The Sentry would rip Black Adam apart. Literally. :)
Black Adam's no stranger to tearing folks in half.
tyroclix
04/22/2010, 19:33
Depends who is writing the story. Obviously there is no way to "prove" who would win - so 'logic' is out the window.
So let me put my writer's hat on. Hmmm... This is tough.
Black Adam is one of the best tragic villains since Magneto back in the 80's. He's a crazed maniac who is actually trying to do the right thing but can't control himself enough to do it.
Sentry was a tragic hero of sorts with him being one of the most powerful heroes on the planet but being mentally fragile. Sadly, his battle with Hulk in World War Hulk went a much different direction than I was envisioning and, to be honest, what he's done in Siege really ruined him in my eyes. Ares is not the type of character to be taken out like that. It was too Loebenian.
So how would I handle this. Sentry is sent to Khandaq to bring in Black Adam. Adam, obviously, isn't going anywhere. Fight ensues. The only way I see Sentry being defeated in a slug-fest is by killing him - so Black Adam does, rupturing his body (probably via SHAZAM! lightening) which turns Khandaq into a wasteland and horribly scars Black Adam both mentally and physically.
MLBatman
04/22/2010, 19:35
Black Adam's no stranger to tearing folks in half.
...or poking his fingers through their eyes and straight out the back of their heads lol :)
Gotta give this one to Sentry though, I love Black Adam, but I don't think he'd win this one.
m0rpheus
04/22/2010, 19:43
Black Adam's no stranger to tearing folks in half.
Or taking on the better part of the DCU.
Manchine
04/22/2010, 19:43
Its a tough call. Both can have TREMENDOUS power and both have been weakened before. If we take them both at there most powerful point I got to give it to Sentry.
fastcat99
04/22/2010, 19:52
I used to like the Sentry when he showed up. Now my thoughts? The Sentry is the biggest D*uche Bag in comics today. Unfortunately, because of how stupid this character has become, I do believe he would undoubtedly beat Black Adam. Seriously, they explain how he came to become the Sentry by saying he was a drug addict? How F*ing stupid is that? I apologize for being so blunt, I will calm down now and go have some chai tea.
I Hate chai tea. I mean, Lady Grey is a nice, fruity blend but not too sweet. Now the price jumps up and folks fill it with cream and all kinds of F*d up S*t. I'm going to have some Vodka and relax now.
canaaron
04/22/2010, 19:54
I hate the Sentry as much as the next guy, but how could Black Adam beat him when The Sentry can control reality now?
He has always been able to control reality. If you read New Avengers 1-20, they explain that. That's why nobody remembered him, because out of fear of being evil he created a world that didn't know about him and he turned himself in for murdering his wife (which he actually never did) so that he could be locked away. During "Breakout" is when he came back after Carnage attacked. Reed Richards then explains his power to control reality.
rwint1968
04/22/2010, 19:57
No contest. Black Adam would beat The Sentry down while Sentry is battling in his mind with The Void wether he should fight BA or not.
:cool:
I HATE Sentry. He is one of the biggest rip-off of recent memory.
I blame Quesada. :tired:
XFORCE1982
04/22/2010, 20:06
Sentry, either kill black adam or make him go away with his reality altering powers
BATMANISBRUCEWAYNE
04/22/2010, 20:10
Black Adam = WWIII (Anyone else remember how evil and murderous Black Adam is I mean it took the whole entire DCU minus The Big Three to take him down during WWIII ) The Sentry IMO is just a Superman\Bizzaro rip off I mean the guy would get toasted by Black Adam while he's having a Mental breakdown. Black Adam all the way :)
Thulsa Doom
04/22/2010, 20:43
All I remember is the Sentry broke every bone in the Hulk's body. I don't understand him but everytime I see him he does unreal things. I had to vote for him.
I blame Quesada too.
Rahe Stone
04/22/2010, 20:45
I hate the sentry, love Black Adam, which may bias my view. However, look at what black adam can do in the DC universe, where everyone is so obscenely powerful (One of the reasons I prefer Marvel). Black Adam would likely cream Sentry, but if they made the fight, it would be a close battle.
Sentry got burned out fighting (an admittedly very powerful) Hulk...
Black Adam fought the entire JLA/JSA/Titans/Outsiders/DCU and was WINNING.
When he's pissed, he can beat anyone in the non-Galactus weight class.
Black Adam for the win.
I'd say that under normal conditions, Black Adam wins. If Black Adam gets pissed, he wins. If the Void takes over for Sentry I see a closer fight, but Adam's way faster than Ares, and I don't know that Sentry could handle one of DC's most powerful.
I give this to Black Adam.
Spider-Dave
04/22/2010, 21:11
Black Adam beats that emo whiny brat so badly that Quesada would feel it.
llyrghmnghyll
04/22/2010, 21:11
First of all Sentry tearing Ares in half is bad writing. The physics of the image are also atrocious, no living substance tears like that. The skin around the hands would rip first. it makes the whole thing phenomenally stupid.
WWIII was also stupid. The JSA have had issues taking Black Adam down before but never when they were at full strength. Between Martian Manhunter, Powergirl, and Alan Scott this shouldn't have been a long battle. Each of those are world Class Heavy weights. Alan Scott vs. Black Adam should be close. Throw in everyone else and it just doesn't make sense. Bad writing strikes again.
I give the actual fight to Black Adam because whoever wins kills the other one and any decent writer should know that Black Adam is a way more interesting character.
Spider-Dave
04/22/2010, 21:17
First of all Sentry tearing Ares in half is bad writing. The physics of the image are also atrocious, no living substance tears like that. The skin around the hands would rip first. it makes the whole thing phenomenally stupid.
WWIII was also stupid. The JSA have had issues taking Black Adam down before but never when they were at full strength. Between Martian Manhunter, Powergirl, and Alan Scott this shouldn't have been a long battle. Each of those are world Class Heavy weights. Alan Scott vs. Black Adam should be close. Throw in everyone else and it just doesn't make sense. Bad writing strikes again.
I give the actual fight to Black Adam because whoever wins kills the other one and any decent writer should know that Black Adam is a way more interesting character.
Bad writing is a bit unfair...they mention several times during that Arc that they had never faced a Black Adam with literally nothing to lose. I remember in Identity Crisis everyone freaked out about Deathstroke taking out the JLA and I wonder why is it bad writing to make villains
capable and powerful?
GrimlockX
04/22/2010, 21:29
If Bob is flying the ship, Black Adam wins. However, at this point Bob is more or less a memory and Void is in complete control of not only the body, but also the Spectre-class reality warping powers. Reality altering trumps Superman power-set. Sentry ftw.
llyrghmnghyll
04/22/2010, 22:05
Bad writing is a bit unfair...they mention several times during that Arc that they had never faced a Black Adam with literally nothing to lose. I remember in Identity Crisis everyone freaked out about Deathstroke taking out the JLA and I wonder why is it bad writing to make villains
capable and powerful?
Deathstroke taking down the JLA isn't unreasonable. It fits with his method of dealing with his foes. BLack Adam trying to overpower the JSA and JLA doesn't fit with Black Adam's established power level. That's Superboy Prime on Anti Monitor armor stuff. If he had gained some new power from some unspecified source it would be different.
tyroclix
04/22/2010, 22:15
Bad writing is a bit unfair...they mention several times during that Arc that they had never faced a Black Adam with literally nothing to lose. I remember in Identity Crisis everyone freaked out about Deathstroke taking out the JLA and I wonder why is it bad writing to make villains
capable and powerful?
Probably because they lose so often and sometimes in dumb ways its poor writing when someone suddenly not only challenges someone outside of their power level but an entire team of them to boot.
Aberrant
04/22/2010, 22:23
Remember that the Void, which is the Sentry, basically shrugged off an assault from: The X-Men, The Fantastic Four (minus Sue), The Inhuman Royal Family, Namor, and the New Avengers (minus Tony).
The Sentry (with Bob at the helm, mind) has snapped Terrax's axe. Without struggle. He's simply beyond most conventional foes. He's beyond the bounds of life and death. Destroy him, and he reforms. Kill his wife, he restores her.
robedestroyer
04/22/2010, 22:34
You know who would win? Nobody. This is because any story with The Sentry in it is a losing proposition.
speedy92286
04/22/2010, 22:39
Right now, I don't think anything can beat him. He "died" at least three times in Dark Avengers, and was usually the reason Norman Osborn won major battles. I assume we are talking about "regular" Sentry, not Void that killed Ares in two seconds.
Black Adam is no push over, but I don't see him, or anyone beating Sentry. At least now. Maybe when he is less overpowered and we know EXACTLY what he does, someone can beat him. Until then, Sentry gets my reluctant vote.
llyrghmnghyll
04/22/2010, 22:42
Right now, I don't think anything can beat him. He "died" at least three times in Dark Avengers, and was usually the reason Norman Osborn won major battles. I assume we are talking about "regular" Sentry, not Void that killed Ares in two seconds.
Black Adam is no push over, but I don't see him, or anyone beating Sentry. At least now. Maybe when he is less overpowered and we know EXACTLY what he does, someone can beat him. Until then, Sentry gets my reluctant vote.
I'm betting Franklin could still wipe him from continuity if it came to it. It's a plot device I loathe, but it seems like it's time.
Black Adam would beat Bob Reynolds no problem, but The Void? Not even close. The Sentry FTW.
afinley2429
04/22/2010, 23:03
Black Adam all the way my Black Adam actually beat prime
scarecrow826
04/22/2010, 23:05
I used to like the Sentry when he showed up. Now my thoughts? The Sentry is the biggest D*uche Bag in comics today. Unfortunately, because of how stupid this character has become, I do believe he would undoubtedly beat Black Adam. Seriously, they explain how he came to become the Sentry by saying he was a drug addict? How F*ing stupid is that? I apologize for being so blunt, I will calm down now and go have some chai tea.
I think Sentry is stupid, and echo most of these sentiments, but biggest ###### bag goes to Red Hulk. I ####### hate that piece of ####.
Rahe Stone
04/22/2010, 23:06
I think Sentry is stupid, and echo most of these sentiments, but biggest ###### bag goes to Red Hulk. I ####### hate that piece of ####.
If I pull him next set Im painting him green and scratching out Red from his name even if he is a chase XD
Sentry wins without question I bet they'll retcon The Sentry to be some alternate reality Franklin Richards.
speedy92286
04/22/2010, 23:29
I'm betting Franklin could still wipe him from continuity if it came to it. It's a plot device I loathe, but it seems like it's time.
You know what, that might be the only logical way. But as we all know, Quesada is not logical, so Sentry will just write himself back into existence.
Actually, I think he did get wiped from existence in Dark Avengers. It was a few issues before Siege. Everyone was in a personal little hell, and Sentry was wiped from existence, then came back the next issue and won the day.
JackAssterson
04/22/2010, 23:31
The Sentry is silly. He is bad and should feel bad.
That's pretty much me at my most diplomatic in regards to Mr. Exploding Suns.
SilverAgeFlash
04/22/2010, 23:48
I love Black Adam he is one of my Fav characters but Sentry is frankly a plot devise that wins fights. he beats Black Adam easily.
I would rather See Prime vs Sentry, let the whinning begin!!!
Hellfire117
04/22/2010, 23:53
Black Adam all day, Marvel blows...
speedy92286
04/23/2010, 00:07
Black Adam all day, Marvel blows...
So why is Deadpool your avatar? =O
I Am The Game
04/23/2010, 00:19
I hate Sentry and love Black Adam, but Sentry is just too nebulous. Marvel wrote him so that he's stronger than Superman, that's the Joe Q mandate. Stupid, but that's just how it is.
afinley2429
04/23/2010, 02:31
Sentry wins without question I bet they'll retcon The Sentry to be some alternate reality Franklin Richards.
sentry would loose black adam has the powers of not 1, not 2, not even 3, but 6 different gods
jackstar7
04/23/2010, 02:47
Black Adam wins.
He simply won't take no jibba-jabba from a guy named Bob.
Thingtime4
04/23/2010, 03:53
The Sentry is a loser, but get it right, he has the power of a MILLION exploding suns. Whatever that means.
Who Would Win Black Adam or the Sentry.
ok you know the drill let have your thoughts...
One has the power of the Gods, the other the power of 1,000 exploding suns.
I should point out you left off a few zeros. He has the Power of a MILLION EXPLODING SUNS and you have to realize that after a million suns explode the only thing left is a :grin::laugh::devious::mad:VOID
I'm betting Franklin could still wipe him from continuity if it came to it. It's a plot device I loathe, but it seems like it's time.
Who's to say he isn't Franklin.
I think Sentry is stupid, and echo most of these sentiments, but biggest ###### bag goes to Red Hulk. I ####### hate that piece of ####.
Rep for this!
Maniac_nmt
04/23/2010, 09:08
I'm betting Franklin could still wipe him from continuity if it came to it. It's a plot device I loathe, but it seems like it's time.
I'm betting Genis-vel could smoke him too, because he already did by clicking his fingers.
llyrghmnghyll
04/23/2010, 09:42
Who's to say he isn't Franklin.
It's certainly a possibility. Maybe some remnant of Onslaught or some other garbage. Maybe just a nightmare come to life.
I've always thought Reed underestimated the power of his own son, or overestimated his ability to keep his sons powers in check.
speedy92286
04/23/2010, 11:59
sentry would loose black adam has the powers of not 1, not 2, not even 3, but 6 different gods
Sentry has the power to never lose. Ever.
bluelantern01
04/23/2010, 12:12
Black Adam is ruthless. He would fight the Sentry, the Sentry would start to win and then doubt himself and Black Adam would kick his butt. Now if the Sentry had the power of a million mystical bolts of lightning to turn Adam into a thousands year old corpse, then maybe . . . .
llyrghmnghyll
04/23/2010, 12:14
Sentry has the power to never lose. Ever.
Not saying this isn't true, but this is stupid. Chuck Norris jokes are fine in their fanboy-ridiculousness contexts, but they do not make the basis for storylines.
Maniac_nmt
04/23/2010, 12:30
Sentry has the power to never lose. Ever.
Yet got his @@@ handed to him by Iron Man (admittedly by Iron Man messing with Cloc as well, but...) or Genis-vel easily displacing him out of a fight with a finger snap causing the Avengers to get their hats handed to them by the Tbolts.
Azrael0626
04/23/2010, 12:35
As much as I can't stand the character because all he is is a knock off of Superman, the Sentry would beat Black Adam. The only weakness that the Sentry has is his fragile mind and Adam really has no way to exploit that. I can't stand "new" characters that are direct knock offs of already existing characters and I gave the Sentry a chance in New Avengers, but the way they have written him recently is just horrible. Black Adam may be able to hold his own for a little while, but the Sentry is just written to be so much more powerful even without his reality altering powers. I absolutely agree that Black Adam is a much more interesting character, but I always try to be realistic when comparing the characters in these vs. threads and the Sentry is just too much for BA to handle. I just dont see BA being able to mess with his head enough to putt out a victory of any kind. I really hope that they kill the Sentry off for good in Seige.
Azrael0626
04/23/2010, 12:42
Deathstroke taking down the JLA isn't unreasonable. It fits with his method of dealing with his foes. BLack Adam trying to overpower the JSA and JLA doesn't fit with Black Adam's established power level. That's Superboy Prime on Anti Monitor armor stuff. If he had gained some new power from some unspecified source it would be different.
You honestly don't think that that Deathstroke fight was bad writing? Most of it would probably have gone down like it did because Slade fights like Batman and almost always has a plan to take down everyone, but the Green Lantern part alone was enough to call it horrible. Kyle Rayner weilds the most powerful weapon in the universe and after watching Daethstroke take down every one else single handedly he tries to punch him? Please! That is some horrible writing.
llyrghmnghyll
04/23/2010, 13:30
You honestly don't think that that Deathstroke fight was bad writing? Most of it would probably have gone down like it did because Slade fights like Batman and almost always has a plan to take down everyone, but the Green Lantern part alone was enough to call it horrible. Kyle Rayner weilds the most powerful weapon in the universe and after watching Daethstroke take down every one else single handedly he tries to punch him? Please! That is some horrible writing.
1) Didn't say it wasn't bad writing, I just said it wasn't unreasonable. I don't think I actually read it, just read about it and skimmed a little.
2) Was Kyle Ion at the time? Because Ion isn't so much a weapon as an entity. And the GL rings are not the most powerful weapons in the universe.
Azrael0626
04/23/2010, 13:41
1) Didn't say it wasn't bad writing, I just said it wasn't unreasonable. I don't think I actually read it, just read about it and skimmed a little.
2) Was Kyle Ion at the time? Because Ion isn't so much a weapon as an entity. And the GL rings are not the most powerful weapons in the universe.
Kyle was a regular GL at the time. What is the most powerful weapon in the universe?
llyrghmnghyll
04/23/2010, 13:45
Kyle was a regular GL at the time. What is the most powerful weapon in the universe?
Weapons as or more powerful than a GL ring
- Claw of Horus
- Anti Monitor Armor
- The Mantle of Fate
just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more. GL rings are great weapons no doubt, but hardly the greatest. Heck Alan Scott's connection to the Starheart is more powerful, but that is hardly even a weapon anymore so much as a mystical connection.
Black Adam wins. He eats suns for breakfast. :cool:
Azrael0626
04/23/2010, 14:15
Weapons as or more powerful than a GL ring
- Claw of Horus
- Anti Monitor Armor
- The Mantle of Fate
just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more. GL rings are great weapons no doubt, but hardly the greatest. Heck Alan Scott's connection to the Starheart is more powerful, but that is hardly even a weapon anymore so much as a mystical connection.
Then why do they call it the most powerful weapon in the universe? They are definitely the most versatile.
specled jim
04/23/2010, 14:38
Black Adam wins. He eats suns for breakfast. :cool:
BUT what about A MILLION EXPLODING SUNS ?????????????
And i read somewere he faught GALACTUS to a stand still FREAKING GALACTUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
though to be honest i dont know very much about BLACK ADAM just have this image of a bad superman in my head lol
llyrghmnghyll
04/23/2010, 14:45
Then why do they call it the most powerful weapon in the universe? They are definitely the most versatile.
Who calls it that? the Guardians? The green Lanterns? it's a very powerful weapon, no doubt, but in a universe where the end constantly looms due to a thousand godly unseen forces I don't think The GL ring is really all that powerful - the power battery maybe, but not one of the rings.
It's also not nearly as powerful or versatile as the Whorligog or Metron's Chair, though those take incredible insight to use.
JackAssterson
04/23/2010, 14:46
Then why do they call it the most powerful weapon in the universe?
Good PR.
...........................
Sentry is a joke. Black Adam wins on account of DC being written better than Marvel at the moment.
I think a better description might be "potentially the most powerful weapon in the universe." Theoretically a user with ungodly willpower, need, and creativity could do just about anything with a fully charged ring.
robedestroyer
04/23/2010, 15:06
Maybe it's not really the Sentry. Maybe it's the Sentry's evil clone pretending to be the Sentry, pretending to be the Void, pretending to be Bob, just so he can destroy all his enemies.
...Hmmm, naw, they would never do something that stupid.
...Or would they? (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/218160)
Azrael0626
04/23/2010, 15:07
I think a better description might be "potentially the most powerful weapon in the universe." Theoretically a user with ungodly willpower, need, and creativity could do just about anything with a fully charged ring.
I'm pretty sure that is exactly what they mean by most powerful.
Wade Wilson
04/23/2010, 15:08
Actually, the Sentry can manipulate molecules now...
speedy92286
04/23/2010, 15:15
Not saying this isn't true, but this is stupid. Chuck Norris jokes are fine in their fanboy-ridiculousness contexts, but they do not make the basis for storylines.
Agreed. I'm not even trying to make a chuck norris joke or reference. It just seems that his power seems to be to never lose. No matter what the situation is, he cannot die and comes back more powerful. I hate him and wish he would go away, but sadly, he won't. At least not while Joe Q has a hard on for him.
GrimlockX
04/23/2010, 17:00
I'm definitely hoping that Thor finds a way to take Sentry out in the last issue of Siege. I'm definitely tired of him. Maybe since Marvel acquired the rights for Miracle Man they won't mind getting rid of Bob now.
specled jim
04/23/2010, 17:43
Maybe it's not really the Sentry. Maybe it's the Sentry's evil clone pretending to be the Sentry, pretending to be the Void, pretending to be Bob, just so he can destroy all his enemies.
...Hmmm, naw, they would never do something that stupid.
...Or would they? (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/218160)
AND THEN.........................hes taken out by DEADPOOL !!!!!!!
Azrael0626
04/23/2010, 17:53
I'm definitely hoping that Thor finds a way to take Sentry out in the last issue of Siege. I'm definitely tired of him. Maybe since Marvel acquired the rights for Miracle Man they won't mind getting rid of Bob now.
I think it's going to be the son of Ares, Phobos, who takes him out. He is going to see what the Sentry did to his father and completely mess with his head.
Manchine
04/23/2010, 18:06
AND THEN.........................hes taken out by DEADPOOL !!!!!!!
Deadpool would probable take out himself. Yes he is that dumb. =)
Maniac_nmt
04/23/2010, 19:48
I think it's going to be the son of Ares, Phobos, who takes him out. He is going to see what the Sentry did to his father and completely mess with his head.
Be better to have Thor do it and pwn Sentry the way we've all been wanting to see him get pwned.
Azrael0626
04/23/2010, 20:08
Be better to have Thor do it and pwn Sentry the way we've all been wanting to see him get pwned.
If the Senrty is truly as powerful as they have made him out to be, then Thor and Superman together couldn't take him. It would be one hell of a fight though. The only thing that is going to stand a chance is some kind of mental attack because that is his only weakness.
llyrghmnghyll
04/23/2010, 23:54
Who are the non-dead reality shapers aside from Sentry/Void? Is it just Franklin going now? Legion is long dead, Don't know what happened to X-man, Jaimie Braddock is dead. What's Wanda doing, and who has the phoenix force?
Who are the non-dead reality shapers aside from Sentry/Void? Is it just Franklin going now? Legion is long dead, Don't know what happened to X-man, Jaimie Braddock is dead. What's Wanda doing, and who has the phoenix force?
Well last I read about Wanda she pulled a Sentry on herself. She does not recall who she was as the Scarlet Witch. This was quite a while ago though. A reborn Hawkeye found her. By the way there is only one thing the VOID can't do and that is kill Lindy; Bob's wife.
llyrghmnghyll
04/24/2010, 13:13
Well last I read about Wanda she pulled a Sentry on herself. She does not recall who she was as the Scarlet Witch. This was quite a while ago though. A reborn Hawkeye found her. By the way there is only one thing the VOID can't do and that is kill Lindy; Bob's wife.
So Lindy is the Reality shaper who created the Void and Bob died years ago? Does that explain all the available data?
So Lindy is the Reality shaper who created the Void and Bob died years ago? Does that explain all the available data?
Well not exactly. While the VOID was in control he told Norman that he was going to destroy everything so Bob and Lindy would suffer because the Sentry wouldn't let the VOID kill her. (even after she asked nicely) At this point Lindy is dead; killed by Bullseye. Bendis likes to go back and explain what happened so we are not sure if she is dead. The Sentry brought her back to life after Ultron killed her. The mini Age of the Sentry was a series of Reed telling Franklin Sentry stories. At the very end Franklin asks if the Sentry is real? Reed assures him he is; then we pan out to notice the Sentry watching through the window.
llyrghmnghyll
04/24/2010, 23:33
Well not exactly. While the VOID was in control he told Norman that he was going to destroy everything so Bob and Lindy would suffer because the Sentry wouldn't let the VOID kill her. (even after she asked nicely) At this point Lindy is dead; killed by Bullseye. Bendis likes to go back and explain what happened so we are not sure if she is dead. The Sentry brought her back to life after Ultron killed her. The mini Age of the Sentry was a series of Reed telling Franklin Sentry stories. At the very end Franklin asks if the Sentry is real? Reed assures him he is; then we pan out to notice the Sentry watching through the window.
Well that certainly does indicate that he might be a product of Franklin's imagination.
Superfly
04/25/2010, 00:19
Sentry wins in a one-on-one fight, as he is much more powerful than Black Adam. From a fan perspective, I like BA a whole lot more than Sentry, but BA can't compete with that kind of power. Sentry would beat BA like a baby seal.
Maniac_nmt
04/26/2010, 10:59
Who are the non-dead reality shapers aside from Sentry/Void? Is it just Franklin going now? Legion is long dead, Don't know what happened to X-man, Jaimie Braddock is dead. What's Wanda doing, and who has the phoenix force?
Genis-vel is technically not dead, just ooc to the point of being dead (Zemo said he'd be back, it'd just take a long time).
The Shaper of Worlds is alive and kicking.
Sat-y-9 is capable of destroying realities with the crystals at the nexus, but can't manipulate it.
Mr. Cranberry
04/26/2010, 11:11
I hate the Sentry as much as the next guy, but how could Black Adam beat him when The Sentry can control reality now? Unless there is a really good conclusion to Siege that explains it all and gives the Sentry a purpose, whoever came up with that character should be banned from working in the comic book industry. I think a room full of ######## monkeys could come up with a better character than the Sentry.
EDIT: Can't say the word that would describe someone who is "special" so just put that word in place of the ########
Methinks it was Quesada with the ok from Mcfarlane whilst watching an episode of Family Guy and reading Watchman and thinking, "I'll need to bring Leifield back in the future when Deadpool gets popular. Always did love his work."
Superfly
04/26/2010, 17:48
sentry would loose black adam has the powers of not 1, not 2, not even 3, but 6 different gods
Unless he's got a different power source than Captain Marvel/Shazam (and he might, I am not a regular reader of anything he stars in), than this is incorrect.
Grumpygoat
04/26/2010, 19:23
Unless he's got a different power source than Captain Marvel/Shazam (and he might, I am not a regular reader of anything he stars in), than this is incorrect.
Eh? Captain Marvel is powered by six gods/Important Dudes - Solomon, Hercules, Atlas, Zeus, Achilles, Mercury. Black Adam is also powered by six gods, they're just different ones.
The Wizard Shazam forms the essential "link," but he doesn't actually provide the power. Furthermore, Shazam can't revoke the power - only the gods empowering the individual (Marvel, Adam, whoever) can do so.
Methinks it was Quesada with the ok from Mcfarlane whilst watching an episode of Family Guy and reading Watchman and thinking, "I'll need to bring Leifield back in the future when Deadpool gets popular. Always did love his work."
Actually, it was Paul Jenkins and another artist who was eventually replaced by Jae Lee. They created the original min-series which was a clever critique on the fallacy of having Superman-esque characters in long running comics and shared universes. He's a Superman rip-off in the same way Hyperion is, as a commentary on the character rather than a direct imitation. All that being said, his mini-series ended with him essentially being taken out of the Marvel Universe because he doesn't fit into it.
I adore Sentry in a largely ironic fashion. I do think he's a great character, but aside from two enjoyable minis, I haven't seen much reason to bring him back. Still, it's fun to see one of my favourites running around in ridiculous stories.
Also, he ripped Carnage in half. Anyone who effectively gets rid of Carnage is worth a couple of bad stories.
llyrghmnghyll
04/27/2010, 04:22
Also, he ripped Carnage in half. Anyone who effectively gets rid of Carnage is worth a couple of bad stories.
He looks like a Hemophiliac trying to form a scab. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt8lgI-9RiY&feature=PlayList&p=A703E3B122361018&playnext_from=PL&index=3)
MacGyver2506
04/27/2010, 04:24
Black Adam. He's as strong as Captain Marvel, and could give Superman a run for his money.
Mr. Cranberry
04/27/2010, 10:13
Actually, it was Paul Jenkins and another artist who was eventually replaced by Jae Lee. They created the original min-series which was a clever critique on the fallacy of having Superman-esque characters in long running comics and shared universes. He's a Superman rip-off in the same way Hyperion is, as a commentary on the character rather than a direct imitation. All that being said, his mini-series ended with him essentially being taken out of the Marvel Universe because he doesn't fit into it.
I adore Sentry in a largely ironic fashion. I do think he's a great character, but aside from two enjoyable minis, I haven't seen much reason to bring him back. Still, it's fun to see one of my favourites running around in ridiculous stories.
Also, he ripped Carnage in half. Anyone who effectively gets rid of Carnage is worth a couple of bad stories.
Well, if you wanted to go the route of not making fun of Quesada & Leifield I coulda said that. ;)
Thunderclese
04/27/2010, 14:00
As much as I'd like to give it to Adam, Senty's just too stupid-powerful now to lose.
I think Adam would rip him in half, and then there'd be an explosion, and Sentry/Void would come back and do the same thing to him.
GrimlockX
04/27/2010, 15:56
Black Adam. He's as strong as Captain Marvel, and could give Superman a run for his money.
Again, key point that you're apparently ignoring. Ultimately it's not about who's physically stronger. It's about who can re-write reality. Sentry can. Adam can't. Sentry wins.
DarkBlueAnt
04/27/2010, 16:18
Sentry basically can't lose unless he wants to. Horrible character who basically took any excitement out of half a decade's worth of story arcs.
ManOfCopper89
04/27/2010, 16:37
Wait, what?! Didn't you guys hear? In the next issue of Dark Avengers, it's going to reveal that the "real" backstory of The Sentry revealed a couple issues back is actually a lie too and that The Sentry is really Black Adam in disguise!
(I am soooo sick of The Sentry...)
Space Jawa
04/27/2010, 16:42
I vote neither.
Sentry would defeat himself and make the whole fight irrelevant.
imaleximsweet
04/27/2010, 16:45
here's how it goes
Sentry: "i want to fight you"
Black Adam: "you killed your own wife"
Sentry: " :'( "
Black Adam: *Punches sentry in face*
[/battle]
larthosgrr8
04/27/2010, 16:48
black adam all the way. it took billy changing his word to stop him in WWIII! black adam wouldn't waste time with sentry like ares was doing. sentry hasn't went against anyone who has pretty much, limitless power!
thanoson
04/27/2010, 20:24
Didn't Joe Q say that Sentry was basically God? Could have sworn that has or is an upcoming story arc.
GrimlockX
04/27/2010, 20:27
Didn't Joe Q say that Sentry was basically God? Could have sworn that has or is an upcoming story arc.
Sentry appears to have some sort of connection with the power that was behind the Biblical plagues of Egypt, so that's probably what Joephisto was referring to.
blitzkriegbop56
04/28/2010, 05:10
The Sentry All the way, Black Adam is strong but with the way The Sentry is portrayed in siege(so far), The Sentry would rip Black Adam apart. Literally. :)
what he said :laugh:
To be one of the most powerful characters in the Marvel universe, both figures are a waste. If I remember right, one - power, but no range, the other - range, but super special power. :tired:
Black Adam, he's a fighting master. Sentry is just a super-powered hobo.
GrimlockX
05/03/2010, 15:44
Black Adam, he's a fighting master. Sentry is just a super-powered hobo.
.........that can RE-WRITE REALITY. I really don't understand how the Black Adam camp is failing to grasp this. Sentry can snap his fingers and reduce Black Adam to primordial soup.
Spider-Dave
05/03/2010, 16:00
.........that can RE-WRITE REALITY. I really don't understand how the Black Adam camp is failing to grasp this. Sentry can snap his fingers and reduce Black Adam to primordial soup.
Because that is a lame answer to the question. And the Sentry is a lame character.
Black Adam all the way.
GrimlockX
05/03/2010, 16:24
Because that is a lame answer to the question. And the Sentry is a lame character.
Black Adam all the way.
I'm not saying Sentry is a better character. Black Adam is a much better character no question. But that's not the issue. The issue is, who wins if they fight each other? You may not like it, but there's really no way for Black Adam to beat a reality warper.
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