Orpheus
02/21/2003, 06:40
Hey there !
I have noticed, in composing my teams, that there were some gaps in the cost of useful (I'm talking optimised game only, here) figurines. Lemme explain myself (this list is of course non-exhaustive and concerns only the figurines I deem more interesting to play, based on personnal criteria ; I'm sure some of these are shared by many players, though) :
- under 20 we have medics and "fillers" (Hydra, S.H.I.E.L.D. and co.) ; plus three of the cheapest hero (villains) figures from Marvel : Quicksilver and Avalanche Rookie, both potentially useful for their cost, bot Brotherhood, and the greatest of all : R Vulture !!!
- we have a few interesting figures in the end of the late twenties (Scarlet Witch, R Pyro, Vet Quicksilver, R Doombots, D.C.'s E Huntress, Robin...)
- one of my favorite "decades" is the thirties : Black Panther E, U Elektra, E Bullseye, E Pyro... When you have 36 points left to finish a team, you have plenty of choice among the best figurines !! Not many D.C. there, though, although a few (expensive) flyers...
- In the 40s and 50s come the first big gap in Marvel. At 41 there is V Whirlwind, a useful but vrey specific figure : if you take the risk of using him (very useful on first click, useless after 3 damage...) you'll optimise him with some Perplex ; so I won't put him in most of my teams. At 54 you have Hercules R : very good, but if I can I'd rather put him at E. Same goes for Logan E at 49 : X-ellent already, better at V. Still, that ain't a lot of choice.
- Surprisingly, that's where D.C. fills the gap : some of the best figurines are between 40's and 50's : Hawk R (45), Hawkman E (43), Desaad (47), Dove E (51). But not everyone has D.C., and some tournaments don't allow mixed Marvel and D.C. ; on the other hand, D.C. lacks good small figures (especially on the villain's side). And it's still not a lot of 50's...
- The 60's is one of my favorite decades : Marvel gives us V Logan, R White Queen, E Hercules, R Firelord, R Strange, V Octopus, V Sabretooth... And D.C. adds R Bane. Great !!
- The 70's don't have much Marvel (except LE Berserker Wolverine maybe). D.C. gives us : V Solomon Grundy (born on a mundy) and V Steel.
- The 80's are the third decade I prefer : E Firelord, V Bane, Nightcrawler, V Strange, R and E Magneto, man, do we have choice !!!
The 90's seem a little empty to me (except the dreadful V Firelord), as do the hundreds (V Maggie, R Hulk, and...?). The hundred-and-tens hold many good figures, and on it goes to bigger numbers and choice become scarcier ; but then, if you choose a big figure you'll probably build the team around it, not the opposite.
All this leading to what ?
Well, first it was just for the sake of observation.
But now, an aside is : maybe Heroclix, especially Marvel, needs some good, useful figures in the 40's and 50's to help with the team building.
Maybe D.C. needs some more small useful figures, in the 30's for example.
I know, we're supposed to mix D.C. and Marvel, good and bad. Well, still, there are less good figures in the 40s and 50's all mixed up than in, say, the 30's and 60's.
Furthermore, D.C. and Marvel were designed differently, not only on the powers balance side, but on the esthetics, and it's more pleasurable to be able to do a "D.C. all" or "Marvel all" team in my opinion.
Just my 3,14159 eurocents, ;-)
Orpheus
I have noticed, in composing my teams, that there were some gaps in the cost of useful (I'm talking optimised game only, here) figurines. Lemme explain myself (this list is of course non-exhaustive and concerns only the figurines I deem more interesting to play, based on personnal criteria ; I'm sure some of these are shared by many players, though) :
- under 20 we have medics and "fillers" (Hydra, S.H.I.E.L.D. and co.) ; plus three of the cheapest hero (villains) figures from Marvel : Quicksilver and Avalanche Rookie, both potentially useful for their cost, bot Brotherhood, and the greatest of all : R Vulture !!!
- we have a few interesting figures in the end of the late twenties (Scarlet Witch, R Pyro, Vet Quicksilver, R Doombots, D.C.'s E Huntress, Robin...)
- one of my favorite "decades" is the thirties : Black Panther E, U Elektra, E Bullseye, E Pyro... When you have 36 points left to finish a team, you have plenty of choice among the best figurines !! Not many D.C. there, though, although a few (expensive) flyers...
- In the 40s and 50s come the first big gap in Marvel. At 41 there is V Whirlwind, a useful but vrey specific figure : if you take the risk of using him (very useful on first click, useless after 3 damage...) you'll optimise him with some Perplex ; so I won't put him in most of my teams. At 54 you have Hercules R : very good, but if I can I'd rather put him at E. Same goes for Logan E at 49 : X-ellent already, better at V. Still, that ain't a lot of choice.
- Surprisingly, that's where D.C. fills the gap : some of the best figurines are between 40's and 50's : Hawk R (45), Hawkman E (43), Desaad (47), Dove E (51). But not everyone has D.C., and some tournaments don't allow mixed Marvel and D.C. ; on the other hand, D.C. lacks good small figures (especially on the villain's side). And it's still not a lot of 50's...
- The 60's is one of my favorite decades : Marvel gives us V Logan, R White Queen, E Hercules, R Firelord, R Strange, V Octopus, V Sabretooth... And D.C. adds R Bane. Great !!
- The 70's don't have much Marvel (except LE Berserker Wolverine maybe). D.C. gives us : V Solomon Grundy (born on a mundy) and V Steel.
- The 80's are the third decade I prefer : E Firelord, V Bane, Nightcrawler, V Strange, R and E Magneto, man, do we have choice !!!
The 90's seem a little empty to me (except the dreadful V Firelord), as do the hundreds (V Maggie, R Hulk, and...?). The hundred-and-tens hold many good figures, and on it goes to bigger numbers and choice become scarcier ; but then, if you choose a big figure you'll probably build the team around it, not the opposite.
All this leading to what ?
Well, first it was just for the sake of observation.
But now, an aside is : maybe Heroclix, especially Marvel, needs some good, useful figures in the 40's and 50's to help with the team building.
Maybe D.C. needs some more small useful figures, in the 30's for example.
I know, we're supposed to mix D.C. and Marvel, good and bad. Well, still, there are less good figures in the 40s and 50's all mixed up than in, say, the 30's and 60's.
Furthermore, D.C. and Marvel were designed differently, not only on the powers balance side, but on the esthetics, and it's more pleasurable to be able to do a "D.C. all" or "Marvel all" team in my opinion.
Just my 3,14159 eurocents, ;-)
Orpheus