Toe-to-Toe Battles!!!

[A_Higher_Level]

The purpose of this thread is to simply find the strongest brawler in HeroClix by actually PLAYING them against each other. The rules are as follows:

*All characters start their battle adjacent to each other.

*Range Combat may be used if one, or both, of the opponents are hovering.

*Knockback rules do not take effect. You stay adjacent to your opponent the entire match.

*Critical Hits, and Critical Misses do not take effect. All other rolls count. A double one is considered a miss. A double six is considered a successful hit.

*Breakaway is not possible. This is a fight to the death. Only one will walk away.

*Pushing is an option. If you push you will take a click of damage unless you have Willpower to avert it.

*To determine who goes first, roll a die for each opponent. The opponent with the highest result wins.

[DTM]

Hmmm, Im curious, why the rule negating the critical hits and misses? You just want the winner to be determined by their stats alone, eh?

[A_Higher_Level]

Turn 1:
Hulk got to attack first, but he chose to pass.
Darkseid successfully hammered Hulk for 3 clicks of damage.

Turn 2:
Hulk successfully retaliates and Darkseid fails for Impervious.
Darkseid takes 1 click of damage.
Darkseid decides to play it safe and passes.

Turn 3:
Hulk follows suit and passes also.
Darkseid then rips into Hulk for 3 more clix of damage after using Outwit on Hulk's Toughness.

Turn 4:
Hulk smash! Hulk bash! Hulk clobbers puny grey guy for a damage of 4!
Darkseid try to dodge the blow but it connected. Darkseid takes 2 clicks of damage.
Darkseid is scared... He down to Toughness, but he passes to catch his breath.

Turn 5:
Hulk looks at the little alien and flexes his muscles. Hulk passes.
Darkseid Outwits Hulk's new found Invulnerability and Hulk takes a solid 2 clicks of damage.

Turn 6:
Hulk roars in delight now that he's on his best click. Hulk lays into Darkside who take 4 clix of damage even after his Toughness soaked 1 up.
Darkseid now has RCE Hulk is not a hovering figure. Darkseid stares at Hulks Invulernability and decides to concede defeat. Better to admit weakness than to taste death.

And the Winner is... HULK!!!

[TheAuthority]

I don't think you should worry about pushing. Just have each character roll consecutive turns until KO.

[DTM]

Do Superman vs. Thing, or Hercules vs She Hulk......youll see how tough they made those CT guys then. :) No way either of them should beat the Man of Steel or the Lion of Olympus

[Veggiehater]

I'm pretty sure that this will come down to Vet Hulk and E Doomsday with the winner being determined by how well E Doomsday does on his Impervious rolls...

VH

[A_Higher_Level]

Originally posted by TheAuthority
I don't think you should worry about pushing. Just have each character roll consecutive turns until KO.

Pushing makes a BIG difference, especially in a situation where you know if you push, the other character can no longer do enough damage to hurt you anymore.

For instance... Pushing Bane use CCE halfway down his dial, knowing that he'd lose it if he were hit for 3 clix of damage from his opponent.

[A_Higher_Level]

Turn 1:
Bane wins the initiative roll and completely guts Hulk for a full 5 clix of damage using his CCE skill.
Hulk had warned Bane that he wouldn't like him mad and now... Hulk pounds back at Bane for 4 clix of damage. Bane's Toughness soaks up 1 and Bane takes 3 clix.

Turn 2:
Bane's reeling from the blow and decides to take a moment to recover. Bane passes.
Hulk thinks long and hard and decides to pass himself.

Turn 3:
Bane tries to take Hulk out with another 4 clix, but Hulk's Invulnerability soaks up 2.
Hulk lays into Bane with another solid 4. Bane takes 3.

Turn 4:
Bane knows this is last click CCE and decides to go for the kill. Sadly Bane still has too many stars in his head and was not able to focus enough to connect with the Hulk. Bane takes his pushing damage and loses his CCE.
Hulk pushes himself to his best click and takes Bane out of the game all at the same time.

And the Winner is... HULK (again)!

[A_Higher_Level]

Turn 1:
With Darkseid winning the initiative roll, this quickly became a bad situation. Darkseid hits Bane for 3 (Bane takes 2) then Outwits his CCE.
Bane understands the situation won't get much better and tries to break Darkside neck for 3. Sadly, Darkseid saw it coming a mile away and easily swatted the attack away.

Turn 2:
Darkseid pushes to finish off Bane and hits him for another 3. Darkseid then follows up by Outwitting the CCE again.
Bane sits back and sees the futility of fighting against Darkseid with no way to get through the Impervious super power and promptly concedes the match. He feels so ashamed at his performance that he breaks all the criminals out of Gotham Asylum and waits in the shadows to take on Batman after he'd been out all night.

And the Winner is... Darkseid!

[DTM]

Very cool right ups here, good job. Though I would be interested in seeing how the ones I previously mentioned would work out, if youd like to do them.

[A_Higher_Level]

I'm working on it. I did those battles yesterday cause I wanted to see just how much bootay these figures could kick. I'll post em daily as I play em.

[A_Higher_Level]

Turn 1:
Hercules wins the initiative and doesn't even hold back when it comes to hitting a girl. He punches her for 4 and She-Hulk takes 2 clicks of damage.
She-Hulk is surprised by Hercules and thinks it's his way of showing he likes her, so she shows her love back by giving him a love tap of 3. Hercules drops 2 clix.

Turn 2:
Hercules stops to contemplate his next move... He passes.
She-Hulk stares back longingly into Hercules eyes. Oh yeah, it's love at first first site.

Turn 3:
Like a good date gone bade, Herc swings both hands over his head and comes down hardon She-Hulk. She-Hulk take 1 damage through her Invulnerability.
Thoroughly pissed at being teased, She-Hulk retaliates and slaps Herc for 3. Herc takes 2 clix and starts to scowl.

Turn 4:
Both clear off realizing it's not good to push the ones you love.

Turn 5:
Hercules connects with a 3. Obviously he's out to prove he wants to wear the pants in the family instead of the pretty green skirt he currently has on. She-Hulk takes a click.
In what would have been a knock-back, She-Hulk smashes back for 3. Herc takes another 2.

Turn 6:
Herc had his breath taken away by that last attack and is now worried that he may not be able to pull this one out. He takes a moment to talk to his father Zeus about getting some help.
She-Hulk pauses for a moment in respect while Hercules prays.

Turn 7:
Herc opens his eyes, and with celestial help, barely connects with a punch. He does 2 clix, but She-Hulk only takes one. Sadly, She-Hulk doesn't look happy about their situation. Thinking maybe they may not be able to have a meaningful relationship, She-Hulk turns around to leave, her hair whipping out and striking Herc for 3 clix, and Herc takes 2.

Turn 8:
Herc realizes he's not gonna make it. He's on his last click and is convinced She-Hulk will connect to his 11 defense with her 9 attack, but dang it, he's not about to get beaten by a girl! Herc pushes headbutts She-Hulk for 2. She-Hulk takes 1 click, and Herc falls to his death.
She-Hulk sits back and smiles as she thought to herself... "What a great kisser!"

And the Winner is... She-Hulk!

[DTM]

Hercules STILL Loses, and he got first attack. BAH, I say to that. Proves my point, She Hulk and Thing are TOO POWERFUL and need to be DESTROYED!!!! :p

Thanks for the mock battle there AHL, great job.

[Veggiehater]

DTM,

I'm not so sure about Thing being too powerful, I mean he does hang pretty well against the Hulk. But you are right, Shulkie is overly strong. Not borken or anything but way stronger than her real character is.

As for Superman, well he was just plain misrepresented similar to what happened to IC Spidey. I wouldn't consider his fig as a gauge for anything that has to do with power levels.

A_Higher_Level,

Please make sure it's E Doomsday not the V you include in this "tournament" since the E is capable of dishing out a whole lot more damage. :)

VH

[Thorgrin]

ya also gotta realize, she's also 40 points higher than vet hercules. Then again, she's got charge.. Hmmm.. *shrug* I still like herc. Usually he does some good damage and then goes back to get some healing lovin' from a medic or two. :)

[DTM]

Exp Doomsday does more damage and is a stronger clix than his Veteran???? BAH, I say to that. That too must be DESTROYED AS WELL!! :)

As for Thing, I dont think hes as overpowered as Shehulkie is, though I do have a problem with him having so much Invulnerability, more so even than Ultron, who is KNOWN for being INVULERNABLE. Thing needed to get better AV, but one click less of 4 Damage on his Vet, and several clicks less of INV. Hes hard to hurt, darn right, but doesnt really deserve the body armor he has in HC.

[Silver Viper]

I don't really think that Thing is too strong. I mean he gets the #### beat out of him if he faces V Hulk or V Juggernaut. I have these battles all the time and Thing gets the #### beat out of him all the time. Hulk also will not lose in this tournament because it is B2B. No single character can stop him b2b, unless you get multiple figures, and even Thing and Juggernaut can't beat him together in b2b! I want to see Dr. Strange and Nightmare!

[Veggiehater]

Originally posted by DTM
Exp Doomsday does more damage and is a stronger clix than his Veteran???? BAH, I say to that. That too must be DESTROYED AS WELL!! :)

Well, Exp Doomsday is capable of deal more damage of the course of his dial. Exp Doomsday has 6 clicks of CCE while the vet only has 4. Though I think the vet has more clicks of 3+CCE and more impervious but still... Yeah the Vet should be destroyed! :)

As for Thing, I dont think hes as overpowered as Shehulkie is, though I do have a problem with him having so much Invulnerability, more so even than Ultron, who is KNOWN for being INVULERNABLE. Thing needed to get better AV, but one click less of 4 Damage on his Vet, and several clicks less of INV. Hes hard to hurt, darn right, but doesnt really deserve the body armor he has in HC.

Agree with you there. Personally I've stopped comparing any non IC click to the ones found in IC for reasons such as this. I just feel that IC poorly represents around 70% of the characters found there (what Rogue with no Super Strength, Herc with no Invul, Magneto so weak, Spider-man with no Spider Senses, etc, etc...)

The newer releases of clix do a much better job at capturing the feel of the characters, there are exceptions of course, but the quality has been improving rather steadily. (Go Jon L!)

VH

[Logan Myrddin]

I STILL want to see an evenly matched fight off between Spidey and Bats.

[A_Higher_Level]

Here's a fight between the vet versions of both Spiderman and Batman. In a toe-to-toe no-holds-barred match!

Turn 1:
Spiderman win the initiative and rolls out a double six for the first roll (critical hits, and knockback are cancelled for these matches).
Thankfully Batman loses his Leadership (like he'd actually need it) gains Close Combat Expert, and rolls an 8 against the man-spider. Spiderman may no have Super Senses, but he sure ain't easy to hit. Spidey dodges the attack.

Turn 2:
Spiderman takes a good look at that CCE dial and decides to go for the push. He connects with a 9 against Batman and takes the damge from being pushed.
Batman is pissed and pushes, but the 5 he rolls just doesn't get the job done. Perhaps he should go back to fighting Gotham's thugs cause these muties ain't no puffballs. At least he takes no damage from the push though.

Turn 3:
Both clear.

Turn 4:
Spidey feels sure of himself and even the 6 he rolls easily connects to Batman's 13 defense.
Batman is taking in a lot of wind. The world is spinning, and here he is without is anti-spider underwear. Batman stabs at the air with a 7. It's not the 10 he needs and Spiderman doesn't look impressed. However Batman get's vindictive and Outwits Spidey's Incapacitate anyways just to make him feel less of a man.

Turn 5:
The costumed Peter Parker decides to sit back and look at the Bat-like freak so he could get in his daily laugh for the day. And all this time he thought Jonah Jameson was funny!
Batman pushes to at least hurt Spiderman's toe and succeeds with an 11!!! Spiderman takes 2 clix of damage, and Batman immediately follows up by Outwitting Spidey's Leap/Climb ability. There's still hope for the Dynamic Duo.

Turn 6:
Spiderman reels back in shock at the attack and decides to finish this battle off. He gives Batman a kick to the stomach with an 8 for 2 clicks and follows up the next turn (Turn 7) with a double handed blow to the head to KO the Dark Knight.

And the winner is... Spiderman!

[Logan Myrddin]

Okay. I realize that what with X-Plosion and all, this thread MIGHT be considered DEAD, but I just played my Vet Logan against my Mr. Fixit... HELL of a FIGHT!!! Anyone want to see? Fixit won the first round, Logan the second. I'm saving the third in case you guys are interested. But if you're not, just continue your merry x-plosion stuff!