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cocopuffs32
04/30/2010, 23:53
Can days of future past sentinals and Infinity Challange have feats?

I just got my hands on the new rulebook and the locked stats thing got me confused on pg 5, is there a laimen's terms explanation of what they are trying to say?

and were do i go for the print and play feat and bfc from the newist set?

Maraud
05/01/2010, 01:06
Can days of future past sentinals and Infinity Challange have feats?
Yes but there are certain feats that can not be assigned.
Look here for those.
http://wizkidsgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Players_Guide_Unrestricted_2010_01.pdf


I just got my hands on the new rulebook and the locked stats thing got me confused on pg 5, is there a laimen's terms explanation of what they are trying to say?
It means that it can't be modified or replaced after the replacement.
With B/C/F when you roll a D6 that value would be come locked at what the Die roll is, so perplex will not affect it nor will Power Damping Field.
The reason for this rule is that perplex will not be calculated until the combat value is used.


and were do i go for the print and play feat and bfc from the newist set?
you can go to http://www.mobilehorror.com/

cocopuffs32
05/01/2010, 01:21
Okay, now back to locked values here is an example i have in question

shadowcat has defend of 17 defence. Gambit perplexes her defence value to 18 now everyone next to her now is a defence 18 is that correct? or?

Phoenix_Icewing
05/01/2010, 02:17
nope, just shadowcats 17, she would get 18 though. however, anyone's defense he perplexes by +1 would REPLACE their defense with her 17, then get the +1 to an 18.

Defend doesnt make locked values- look to quake and blades/claws/fangs for that- they actually say "Locked"

cocopuffs32
05/01/2010, 02:44
call me stoopid but

if you perplex shadow cat defence to 18 from 17 and she has the power of defend... now the power defend offers every freindly teamate around her her defence as the replacement number for there defence right?

another words i plan on using her with colosus and gambit!

Phoenix_Icewing
05/01/2010, 02:51
well, lets quote it directly from the PAC-
"DEFEND Any friendly adjacent character can replace its defense value with this character’s unmodified defense value (including a replacement defense value)."

perplex modifies the defense, so you replace with the unmodified 17.

beardedtoyman
05/01/2010, 02:53
call me stoopid but

if you perplex shadow cat defence to 18 from 17 and she has the power of defend... now the power defend offers every freindly teamate around her her defence as the replacement number for there defence right?

another words i plan on using her with colosus and gambit!

It doesn't work this way because Defend shares the unmodified value, not the perplexed value. Shadowcat would share the 17.

EDIT: Beaten to the punch!

cocopuffs32
05/01/2010, 03:07
sweet thanks guys, I cant believe i missed that, well so i can still use that combo just in reverse and have gambit hiding using stealth and shadowcat and colosus togeter and yep i got it now. :)

Phoenix_Icewing
05/01/2010, 11:23
Keep in mind a few other things! the replace, then modify affects all non-locked values.
If you carry someone, while using charge/running shot- its halved, then -2 (10 becomes 5, then becomes 3!)

Rule of 3 still applies- you CAN perplex someone's movement up by 5! but you'll only benefit by 3 (so if you carry someone, 10 becomes 15 becomes 13- still within rule of 3. unsure exactly how this works with the halved values, but im sure it would apply to the halved value- 5 could be no more than 8 or less than 2)

Fantastic old trick- if an opponent has an amazingly high defense value (20+'s may be very common in the new formats with this set) you certainly can perplex defense values down if you know you'll likely still miss. Perplex lasts until the target figure is damaged, healed, or the Perplexer loses perplex. If you miss, their Defense stays down, opening the path for your next attack.