View Full Version : "The List" for DC's Expansion
A very reliable source has just passed me the official list for DC's first expansion (although he didn't tell me its name). I haven't seen this posted anywhere else.
DC's ??? Expansion list:
Dumb Thug (R) #001
Dumb Thug (E) #002
Dumb Thug (V) #003
Cannon Fodder (R) #004
Cannon Fodder (E) #005
Cannon Fodder (V) #006
Crooked Cop (R) #007
Crooked Cop (E) #008
Crooked Cop (V) #009
Harley Quinn’s Hyenna (R) #010
Harley Quinn’s Hyenna (E) #011
Harley Quinn’s Hyenna (V) #012
Imperiex Probe (R) #013
Imperiex Probe (E) #014
Imperiex Probe (V) #015
Beefeater (R) #016
Beefeater (E) #017
Beefeater (V) #018
Calendar Man (R) #019
Calendar Man (E) #020
Calendar Man (V) #021
Chris King (Dial H for Hero) (R) #022
Chris King (Dial H for Hero) (E) #023
Chris King (Dial H for Hero) (V) #024
Matter-Eater Lad (R) #025
Matter-Eater Lad (E) #026
Matter-Eater Lad (V) #027
Acro-Bat (R) #028
Acro-Bat (E) #029
Acro-Bat (V) #030
Terra-Man (R) #031
Terra-Man (E) #032
Terra-Man (V) #033
Skyrocket (R) #034
Skyrocket (E) #035
Skyrocket (V) #036
Mr. Mind (R) #037
Mr. Mind (E) #038
Mr. Mind (V) #039
Miss America (R) #040
Miss America (E) #041
Miss America (V) #042
Rusalka (R) #043
Rusalka (E) #044
Rusalka (V) #045
Mr. Mxyzptlk (R) #046
Mr. Mxyzptlk (E) #047
Mr. Mxyzptlk (V) #048
New-Wave (R) #049
New-Wave (E) #050
New-Wave (V) #051
Beautiful Dreamer (R) #052
Beautiful Dreamer (E) #053
Beautiful Dreamer (V) #054
Big Bear (R) #055
Big Bear (E) #056
Big Bear (V) #057
Doctor Bedlam (R) #058
Doctor Bedlam (E) #059
Doctor Bedlam (V) #060
(The previous three will debut the new team ability "New Gods.")
Cluemaster (R) #061
Cluemaster (E) #062
Cluemaster (V) #063
Multi-Man (R) #064
Multi-Man (E) #065
Multi-Man (V) #066
Clock King (R) #067
Clock King (E) #068
Clock King (V) #069
(In the comics all three have been in the Injustice League and JLA)
G’Nort (R) #070
G’Nort (E) #071
G’Nort (V) #072
Darkstar John Stewart (R) #073
Darkstar John Stewart (E) #074
Darkstar John Stewart (V) #075
Janissary (R) #076
Janissary (E) #077
Janissary (V) #078
Zauriel (R) #079
Zauriel (E) #080
Zauriel (V) #081
(Whoo-hoo! Zauriel's my favorite!)
Superman Red (R) #082
Superman Red (E) #083
Superman Red (V) #084
Uncle Sam (U) #085
Advance Man (U) #086
Oracle (U) #087
Imperiex (U) #088
Cameron Chase (U) #089
Access (U) #090
Psimon (U) #091
Red Tornado I (U) #092
Phantasm (U) #093
Tattooed Man (U) #094
Azmodel (U) #095
Superman Prime (U) #096 (I switched this one with the real #096 so this thread won't be deleted. PM me if you want to know who it is.)
ccgtrader_78
02/21/2003, 14:49
Nice knowing ya Lex....
I hope you don't get many 'nasty treads'....
SHERFMAN
02/21/2003, 14:51
WHAT ARE MULTI-MANS POWERS
ccgtrader_78
02/21/2003, 14:52
upon a closer look... that list is a riot!! I havent heard of a single character on it.... hehehe... course then again... I dont read DC books either...
Dumb Thug... hehehe... i guess he has the opposite of outwit huh? INwit!!
Veggiehater
02/21/2003, 14:57
LOL! Mr. Mind!
'Nuff Said,
VH
Captain_Comet
02/21/2003, 14:57
WOW! Access being on that list is kind of cool!
For those of you who don't him, Access has the ability to
bridge between DC and the Marvel Universe and all of the late
90's vs stories and Amalgrams have been because of this guy.
I wonder is an amalgram set is actualy in the works.
OR this is an Access I never heard of and it will dissapoint me.
As much as I'd love to see a Doctor Bedlam figure in the game, I'd hate to think WizKids was crazy enough to OK THAT list....
I will buy each and every one of these if this is the case, but still...
HOLY OBSCURITY BATMAN!
Doesn't seem to be a theme...do I only see 2 GL's an neither one is one of the big three?
While reading, seeing Beefeater (who was kind of a joke, but will probably make a cool looking figure) and matter-eater-lad who is a really big joke, and...and CANNON FODDER?!
What's next "Murder Victim", "Helpless Female", "Paralyzed Diabetic"? Oh, well, I'll take each and every one if it's true...
And I can see the confusing conversations now. "I'll trade you a Blue Superman Red, and a Red Tonado for your Red Superman Blue" if he comes out later....
BULL ONEY! NONSENSE! UTTER POPPYCOCK!!! (Can I say poppycock?) This list is a FONEY! a SHAM! A BAMBOOZEL FLIM-FLAM! I am offended by the very EXISTENCE of this LUDICROUS LIST! BLEEARG!
Mayberry Bat
02/21/2003, 15:03
I read and have read DC comics much much more than Marvel over my 20+ years of reading comics. If this is truly the list, I'm ticked off. This is terribly obscure. This will tick off the casual fans and the hard cores alike. Hardly any GL's, the ones we got are terrible. Obscure characters than I'm having some trouble remembering. This better be some cruel joke.
JackAssterson
02/21/2003, 15:04
No Wonder Woman. No Martian Manhunter. Yeeeeeeah. And I got a copper bust of Abe Lincoln you can have for just one dollar, pal.
Hey, wait a minute.
Multi-Man wasn't a DC hero. He was from the Hanna-Barbera Saturday morning cartoon, "The Impossibles," about a rock band that could transform into superheroes.
Does this mean we'll be seeing Fluid Man and Coil Man before long?
How does this bode for Rope Man, Diaper Man, and Cuckoo Man?
I feel sorry for this guy. He put all that time and energy into what is either a lame joke or a stupid mistake. Try harder next time, guy.
Fake lists are usually pretty lame, but you included Clock King, so you are my hero.
That was really pretty creative, man. I'm impressed.
And, anyone who actually thinks this is the real list ... I've got a bridge to sell you (cheap!).
Captain_Comet
02/21/2003, 15:14
Multi Man is a DC Supervillain. Like the Ressurection Man
every time he dies he comes back with new powers.
Also on several Occasions Multi-Man has helped out the good
guys and even joined the Justice League Antartica which lasted
one giant sized issue.
I am said to see Mr. Mind is on this list and no Power of Shazam!
I'm glad to see A LOT of JSA figures are in this list which leads me
to belive the theme will be JSA.
OF ALL THE LEGIONAIRES! Why Matter Eater Lad??????
I guess we at least have a DC wild card character now.
Still this looks like an interesting set for DC fans like myself (Hey
I like ALL COMICS) and I can't wait to own them all and relive
OWAW with Imperex and LE Superman.
Captain_Comet ... you're kidding, right? You're not reallytaking this list seriously, are you?
Captain_Comet
02/21/2003, 15:19
I actualy don't think this list is that fake at all.
I'M NOT BUYING ANY BRIDGES! or SWAMP LAND
Dr. Bedlam would have some cool powers and I think they would add him. The New Gods power I have issues with, but this list
looks quite probable. I can appreciate it for what its worth.
I will now wait for the ridicule to begin ....
malchyor
02/21/2003, 15:26
yeah....calendar man? wow. you did some searching for your list. good job!
Captain_Comet
02/21/2003, 15:31
The only reason I hope this list is fake is because I think I'm
the only one who would by it. Though I think Imperex should
be the next DC Big Fig
SciFiGuy
02/21/2003, 15:31
Don't talk about unpublished lists so openly, you must use a codename.
X-plosion = "pineapple"
DC Expansion = "shinola"
For the younger folks, shinola is a brand of shoe polish. It also is used in the old catch phrase: "he doesn't know $h!7 from shinola." I think that should explain the origins of the list as well...
I hope you realize I'm joking :D
ALC Marauder
02/21/2003, 15:40
I am shocked. :eek:
I can't believe they are forgeting the following caracters;
Jonny Thunder
Dan the Dyna-mite
Johnny Quick
The Atom
The Ray (new or old version)
Star Spangeled Kid (either version)
Mr. Terrific
Robot Man
Captian Triumph
Red Bee
Dollman
Sportsmaster
Adam Strange
The Omega Men
The Legion of Superheroes
:D
I could go on but it would be even more obscure.
(Note most are from The Golden Age with a few others thrown in.)
CyberVenom
02/21/2003, 15:43
No offense ALC Marauder, but a bunch of those characters you've mentioned aren't that obscure. Matter of face, at least a couple of them are down right completely main stream!
Dangit! Where's my Bat-Mite?! I'm not buying another stinkin' booster unless there's a chance I'll get a Bat-Mite in it!
Hey everyone,
Yes, the list is a fake. Sorry. I wrote it because I'm sick of all the people saying "Well, the pineapple says..." because they've seen a spoiler list for Marvel's upcoming expansion. I don't think that's cool at all and I wanted to make fun of them.
What I wanted to do was find DC characters that will most likely not be in HeroClix. That's why there is no Wonder Woman, J'onn J'onzz, popular GL, or Captain Marvel. I chose Superman Red because I think Superman blue will be more likely to appear.
Unfortunately I included several of my favorite characters (like Zauriel and Janissary) that, even though I want to see them in Clix, it's unlikely. But this was fun for me. The only challenging part was thinking of the rarity 1 clix (like thugs and criminals). I thought of stuff like D.E.O. Agent and S.T.A.R. Labs Scientist, but I figured that WhizKids might actually do those some day. So that's why I came up with the really stupid "Cannon fodder."
But, if you want to know what #96 was really going to be, it was either going to be Pariah, Lady Quark or Harbinger (from the Crisis on Infinite Earths).
I hope I didn't piss too many people off with this thread. :)
No, I think what pisses people off is if you stuck to the list being real.
Or said that it introduces new mechanics... like the Hearts system
Originally posted by Captain_Comet
Though I think Imperex should be the next DC Big Fig
Yeah, I was apprehensive about adding him to my list because I think the chances are good that he'll become a big figure like Sinestro. Especially since Jon L, the game designer, hasn't mentioned his name in the figures that he won't do (like Galactus).
Originally posted by Tsannik
No, I think what pisses people off is if you stuck to the list being real.
Yeah, I think you're right. I toyed with the idea of putting a disclaimer in that post about it not being real. But then I thought it would be funnier this way. Sorry.
Manchine
02/21/2003, 16:42
Bahahaha.
First thing is first Indy Klix comes out first. HAHAHA!!! It would be more believable if you had did them. Hahaha
If anyone who actually believed this Carp I have ocean front property in Nevada I can sell ya.
It was so obviously fake, I don't think an apology is even necessary.
I thought it was funny.
bullseye100
02/21/2003, 17:06
But alas, I know this list of figures will never see the light of day.
The Sandman
02/21/2003, 17:11
But I already pre-ordered my next DC case from some guy, he said I had to pay cash for it since Uncle Sam was on the list (don't ask me why, but it made sense at the time).
mrtomsmith
02/21/2003, 17:19
Where's Air Wave? He's my favorite. He really should have Outwit.
CyberVenom
02/21/2003, 17:27
Well, I hate to be the one to tell you, Sandman, but you'll never see that money, that fig, or that box ever. :(
The Sandman
02/21/2003, 17:30
Dang, should I also ask for my money back on those Celestial figures?
Uncle Sam might eventually make it into a set ... he'd be a cool figure, and he'd be alright as a Unique.
groovyfunk
02/21/2003, 17:34
Cool I don't have to worry about running to the store if this list is true.
It sucks.:p
MikeHintze
02/21/2003, 17:39
Man, this sounds like the Bill Jemas' "Operation: Screw DC" Phase 1....
Funny List!
Beefeater....MWAHAHAHAHAHA!
What's next...that psycho cat from Justice League Europe as a Unique?
Actually, I would like to see G'nort!
No need to apologize theLex, anyone with half a brain could tell it was a joke ... and a pretty darn good one too. Props on listing so many obscure characters ... you really know your stuff.
AdamWarlock
02/21/2003, 18:18
This list can't possibly be legit. It's not marketable to anybody who isn't either an encyclopedic-comic-knowledge-fanatic or a 20+ year fan... they need to get newer fans into the game and that's NOT the way. PLUS without having even one of the big guns left out of the first set (GL Kyle, GL Hal, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Lex Luthor, Mr. Freeze, Penguin, Atom.....) heck, even Metamorpho would be more easily recognizable than most of these folks.
Dumb Thug (V) #003 {{{No way. This is just poking fun at Marvel's own lame thug, and Marvel's expansion has brought in legit generics (shield, hydra, skrull) no useless "only-ever-to-be-used-as-filler crud.}}
Cannon Fodder (V) #006 {{{This one rings too much like how Magic: The Gathering treats Goblins. Hc doesn't intend to make a joke of itself. This is ridiculous. Cannon fodder might as well already be the Thug & Lackey's names...
Crooked Cop (V) #009 {{{This one's kinda cool actually if you've read Batman Year one or Dark Victory. I thought it was lame at first but have kinda changed my mind.}}}
Harley Quinn’s Hyenna (V) #012 {{{Just.... NO. Hounds have a place in fantasy-battle mage knight, not on this field of bipedal heroes.}}}
Imperiex Probe (V) #015 {{{Who? Is this what happened to all those crazy "abductees"?}}}
Beefeater (V) #018 {{{Who? Isn't this just some sort of sexual insult?}}
Calendar Man (V) #021 {{{Batman: The Long Halloween DID make him a bit known again, but he's still quite obscure and hasn't done anything other than say crazy things from behind arkham barriers in YEARS.}}}
Chris King (Dial H for Hero) (V) #024 {{{This is one of the very few legit choices here since Dc just launched a new H-E-R-O title.}}}
Matter-Eater Lad (V) #027 {{{Heard of him but can't picture what he looks like... I'd say I don't know what he does, but apparently he eats matter. Big deal, me too. mmmm, potato chips. Matter-licious}}}}
Acro-Bat (V) #030 {{{Is this a real character? Whoever came up with this punny name should be shot.}}}
Terra-Man (V) #033 {{{ uh... I got nothing. Who?}}}
Skyrocket (V) #036 {{{Likewise. No clue.}}}
Mr. Mind (V) #039 {{Nope, no idea.}}
Miss America (V) #042 {{All I can picture here is "American Maid" from the Tick cartoon and Marvel's golden-age "Ms. Marvel" Invader. No idea who this is...}}}
Rusalka (V) #045 {{{No clue...}}
Mr. Mxyzptlk (V) #048 {{I'd be happy to see more superman enemies, but he's not the way. I just can't see this figure there on the grid amongst all the non-imps.}}}
New-Wave (V) #051 {{What's this guy, "the new hero for the 80's"? No clue.}}
Beautiful Dreamer (V) #054 {{Cool, so this one's a lame and obscure Marvel character AND a lame/obscure Dc character. I'm amazed and kind of saddened that I can actually picture the marvel one even.}}
Big Bear (V) #057 {{No clue. If they just use the werebear or war bear sculpt from Mage Knight though, we shoot them.}}
Doctor Bedlam (V) #060 {{No idea.}}
Cluemaster (V) #063 {{No idea}}
Multi-Man (V) #066 {{No idea}}
Clock King (V) #069 {{Cool, but WAY obscure. Heck, I didn't even know he existed in comics. I thought he was one of those villains who only appeared on the Batman cartoon.}}
G’Nort (V) #072 {{They'd be insane to do this one. There credibility would never recover. If they think people will be too preocuppied with "awwwwww how cute", they're mistaken.}}}
Darkstar John Stewart (V) #075 {{Why not just regular John stewart since he's on the JLA cartoon? Darkstar Stewart indicates that he won't be GL corps which is silly.}}
Janissary (V) #078 {{No clue}}
Zauriel (V) #081 {{I, too like Zauriel, but I feel he's a poor choice to make before more established JLA people like Wonder Woman & the Manhunter.}}
Superman Red (V) #084 {{Lame. Short-lived alternate versions are just uniques in Marvel clicks. If they make a full-fledged REV of Superman in this short-lived (and thankfully so) incarnation, they've surpassed moronic in their decisions (having already surpassed mere idiocy with "Gnort"}}
Uncle Sam (U) #085 {{Cool, but can't picture it unless it's just more post 9/11 tie-ins. He's never to my knowledge been in the same continuity so to say as anybody else since the Golden age...}}
Advance Man (U) #086 {{No clue}}
Oracle (U) #087 {{Cool character, but seriously, what can she do in the game? Professor Xavier's stuck in a wheelchair too, but he can at least blow up your brain. What's Oracle going to do in this combat oriented environment; try to distract them with internet porn?}}
Imperiex (U) #088 {{Who?}}
Cameron Chase (U) #089 {{Who?}}
Access (U) #090 {{Doubt he'd ever happen. He's stupid, he can't really do much and since he's joint owned by Marvel & Dc, if being stupid isn't enough reason, would keep him off the roster.}}
Psimon (U) #091 {{Who?}}
Red Tornado I (U) #092 {{One of the VERY few legit choices}}
Phantasm (U) #093 {{What, from the Batman cartoon straight to video movie? Dear lord... MAKE MR FREEZE!!!}}
Tattooed Man (U) #094 {{Who? I can only think of Zsasz that serial killer guy from Batman: Knightfall...}}
Azmodel (U) #095 {{Sounds familiar but I got nothin.}}
And an undisclosed thingie for the last unique.
OK... something's wrong here when I, a comic book fanatic, have never once heard of 16 out of the 24 non-generic (that including the hyena) figures here and 6 of the 11 posted uniques... REALLY ridiculous. There isn't one figure here except for the superman re-issue that can be marketed at all to a wide audience. The 2nd biggest guy here is ZAURIEL, a short-time JLA member... if this list is legit, they have lost ALL sense of business strategy.
The Sandman
02/21/2003, 18:48
Still waiting for my mail order special edition cash only Beyonder Clix.
Azrael0626
02/21/2003, 18:55
Nevermind :D
hudson20
02/21/2003, 19:00
This list cannot possibly be true. Imperiex is on it. Most of you haven't heard of him, but you have heard of the "Our worlds at war superman" thats out now. (He's the one with the black S and the hypersonic speed) The "Our worlds at war" storyline was the story line where imperiex first appeared. In fact the whole story was centered around the fact that he tried to come by and eat planet earth. Apparently he does that sort of thing. Alot.
For those of you that are marvel fans imperiex is basically the DC version of Galactus. (He vaporized doomsday to ashes in a single shot. Somehow Doomsday got better from that by cloning him or somthing. However, it was several months before he was seen again.) Imperiex rates a big figure from his size alone. He would never, ever, be a normal figure in a normal set.
Also Matter eater lad is the biggest joke I ever heard of. They would never bring him out in a set.
ccgtrader_78
02/21/2003, 19:06
funny.... even after the original poster said the list is fake (about two pages ago).. and did it to get a laugh...... people keep posting on how lame the list is and how it could never be a real list.
READ BEFORE YOU POST!
I believe in the Pineapple, but come on, no batman, wonder woman, kyle guy or hal lanterns, and those sorry U's
WARNING FAKE LIST! ! ! !
hudson20
02/21/2003, 19:32
Originally posted by ccgtrader_78
funny.... even after the original poster said the list is fake (about two pages ago).. and did it to get a laugh...... people keep posting on how lame the list is and how it could never be a real list.
READ BEFORE YOU POST!
Sorry I skipped to the end. I don't have 20 minutes to spend reading each thread.
kingbrendarr
02/21/2003, 19:59
OMG I almost wet myself reading "the shinola" for the record it didnt take me long at all to catch the joke here and thats a lot of references in there nice work.
Originally posted by AdamWarlock
Dumb Thug (V) #003
Cannon Fodder (V) #006
Crooked Cop (V) #009
Harley Quinn’s Hyenna (V) #012
Imperiex Probe (V) #015
When making this list up, the generic characters were the most difficult to do. My intention was to do characters that, in no way possible, would ever be in Heroclix. I thought of several candidates like D.E.O. Agents or S.T.A.R. Lab Techs, but WhizKids might eventually have those as generics. So that's why I ended up using stupid stuff like the hyennas and "cannon fodder."
You do have a point about Clobberin' Time generics. They don't have generic generics like Thugs and Criminals. That's something I didn't concider whem making this list.
If you'd like to know more about my choices, heres some info:
Beefeater - This guy apparently once tried out for the Justice League (I think it was the Europe incarnation).
Chris King (Dial H for Hero) - You have a good point about H-E-R-O making this a legit choice, but I think anyone with the H-Dial would be too difficult to translate into clix.
Matter-Eater Lad - This is the only Legionnaire I included because all the other ones have the potnetial to be in HeroClix.
Acro-Bat - Find copies of DC's Chase series. He was one of an underground group of super power individuals before Superman's debut.
Terra-Man - Old Superman villain that recently resurfaced.
Skyrocket - She's one of the stars of the unbelievably wonderful Power Company series by Kurt Busiek.
Mr. Mind - He's a mind controlling worm from Captain Marvel's rogues gallery. He had a very cool role during DC's last major crossover (which over-all sucked).
Miss America - Golden Age character. When Wonder Woman was erased from the GA because of Crisis, Miss America was her unofficial replacement in the JSA. But WW has recently been retconned back into the past JSA.
Rusalka - Very obscure. She was one of five Russian super heroes called the Soyuz that debuted in Firestorm's book.
Mr. Mxyzptlk - Yeah, as much as I'd like to see him, I don't think he can translate well into clix.
New-Wave - She is a villain made of water. Very similar to Hydro-Man.
Beautiful Dreamer and Big Bear - To New Gods that are part of the Forever People group (God bless Jack Kirby).
Doctor Bedlam - Don't tell me you didn't get the JLA/JSA: Virtue & Vice. Good book... lame villain.
Cluemaster - Old Batman villain who is the Spoiler's father.
Multi-Man - Really cool villain. Every time he dies, he gets a new super power. There was a cool scene where Joker killed him over and over to get a usable power.
Clock King - He's not the same person as from the Batman cartoon. Actually, I'm not sure if he's ever fought Batman.
G’Nort - Well, I wanted someone with the GL ability. :)
Darkstar John Stewart - The reason I listed him as his Darkstar form is because I know John will be in an expansion as a GL.
Janissary - She's from the themed annuals DC had in 2000. She's the national hero of Turkey and possesses a flaming sword and Merlin's book of spells (that Etrigan wants to steal). What I liked about her was that she's a Muslim.
Uncle Sam - He's been seen around the DCU recently. Before that, he had the identiy of the hero known as Patriot. But he recently fought Superman because he's the Spirit of America and having Lex Luthor as president screwed him up.
Advance Man - A lame villain used in a JLA 5th week event.
Oracle - I had a doctor's appointment and ran out of time while researching so I just threw her on the list and posted it. I agree that it would be improbable to have her in HeroClix.
Imperiex - He was a Galactus-like villain in a forgettable crossover. More than likely, he'll show up as a big figure.
Cameron Chase - Again, look for that brilliant Chase series. It's a great jem of a comic. Also, if you've picked up any of the Secret Files books over the last two year, you might have seen the D.E.O. stories. She was the main character in them.
Access - I threw him in just to prove to people that this was a fake list.
Psimon - Old Teen Titans villain with mind powers.
Red Tornado I - If this was the android Red Tornado II, then it would have the potential to be in Clix. But this is the Golden Age version (Ma Hunkel).
Phantasm - this is actualy the name of a dead member of the Teen Titans. He was a young telekinetic who dressed ina costume similar to the cartoon Phantasm.
Tattooed Man - An obscure villain who was in the Injustice League.
Azmodel - Any Zauriel fan should know him. He's the Kind Angel of Heaven's Bull Host who fought the JLA three times (well, once was while he had taken over the Spectre).
OK... something's wrong here when I, a comic book fanatic, have never once heard of 16 out of the 24 non-generic (that including the hyena) figures here and 6 of the 11 posted uniques... REALLY ridiculous. There isn't one figure here except for the superman re-issue that can be marketed at all to a wide audience. The 2nd biggest guy here is ZAURIEL, a short-time JLA member... if this list is legit, they have lost ALL sense of business strategy.
Like I said before: since this was intended to be a farce from the beginning, I picked characters specifically because they will never be in Heroclix. Some of that was disappointing because I really want to see Zauriel and Mr. Mxyzptlk in the game.
Now, imagine if, instead of creating a list with a goal of humour, we tried to create a list that was going for realism. Accordingly, it would have to include the strongly rumoured figures some have claimed to have seen behind closed doors. It would also have to include some junk at the top of the list for generics. And because it's DC, we have to see more Batman and Superman characters, no matter how many were in the first set. So...how does the following list look:
Delta Force (R) #001
Delta Force (E) #002
Delta Force (V) #003
Navy SEAL (R) #004
Navy SEAL (E) #005
Navy SEAL (V) #006
Ghul Assassin (R) #007
Ghul Assassin (E) #008
Ghul Assassin (V) #009
Atlantean Guard (R) #010
Atlantean Guard (E) #011
Atlantean Guard (V) #012
Kobra Agent (R) #013
Kobra Agent (E) #014
Kobra Agent (V) #015
Rocket Red (R) #016
Rocker Red (E) #017
Rocket Red (V) #018
Two Face (R) #019
Two Face (E) #020
Two Face (V) #021
Scarecrow (R) #022
Scarecrow (E) #023
Scarecrow (V) #024
Black Canary (R) #025
Black Canary (E) #026
Black Canary (V) #027
Poison Ivy (R) #028
Poison Ivy (E) #029
Poison Ivy (V) #030
Wonder Girl (R) #031
Wonder Girl (E) #032
Wonder Girl (V) #033
Batgirl (R) #034
Batgirl (E) #035
Batgirl (V) #036
Green Arrow (R) #037
Green Arrow (E) #038
Green Arrow V) #039
Hawk Woman (R) #040
Hawk Woman (E) #041
Hawk Woman (V) #042
Impulse (R) #043
Impulse (E) #044
Impulse (V) #045
Penguin (R) #046
Penguin (E) #047
Penguin (V) #048
Killer Croc (R) #049
Killer Croc (E) #050
Killer Croc (V) #051
Reverse Flash (R) #052
Reverse Flash (E) #053
Reverse Flash (V) #054
Hour Man (R) #055
Hour Man (E) #056
Hour Man (V) #057
Supergirl (R) #058
Supergirl (E) #059
Supergirl (V) #060
Cyborg (R) #061
Cyborg (E) #062
Cyborg (V) #063
Mr. Freeze (R) #064
Mr. Freeze (E) #065
Mr. Freeze (V) #066
Green Lantern - Sentinel (R) #067
Green Lantern - Sentinel (E) #068
Green Lantern - Sentinel (V) #069
Dr. Fate (R) #070
Dr. Fate (E) #071
Dr. Fate (V) #072
Lex Luthor (R) #073
Lex Luthor (E) #074
Lex Luthor (V) #075
Wonder Woman (R) #076
Wonder Woman (E) #077
Wonder Woman (V) #078
Martian Manhunter (R) #079
Martian Manhunter (E) #080
Martian Manhunter (V) #081
Green Lantern – Hal Jordan (R) #082
Green Lantern – Hal Jordan (E) #083
Green Lantern – Hal Jordan (V) #084
Demon (U) #085
Deadman (U) #086
Metamorpho (U) #087
Ras Al Ghul (U) #088
Spectre (U) #089
Bizarro (U) #090
Lobo (U) #091
Shazam (U) #092
Batman (U) #093
Red Tornado (U) #094
Mailbox Plastic Man #095
Electric Blue Superman (U) #096
What do you think? I probably need to hold back more on some of the big name figures for the second expansion.
batman19
02/23/2003, 21:56
looks good. I hope the DC expansion contains at least a few of these. Hopefully Martian Manhunter hes my favorite
If you'd like to know more about my choices, heres some info:
Beefeater - This guy apparently once tried out for the Justice League (I think it was the Europe incarnation).
*That it was. He was a British guy who wanted to do the superhero thing.
Chris King (Dial H for Hero) - You have a good point about H-E-R-O making this a legit choice, but I think anyone with the H-Dial would be too difficult to translate into clix.
*I agree. Maybe the maker randomly chooses powers for each click of the dial?
Matter-Eater Lad - This is the only Legionnaire I included because all the other ones have the potnetial to be in HeroClix.
*Even Bouncing Boy? Chemical King? Gear?
Acro-Bat - Find copies of DC's Chase series. He was one of an underground group of super power individuals before Superman's debut.
Terra-Man - Old Superman villain that recently resurfaced.
Skyrocket - She's one of the stars of the unbelievably wonderful Power Company series by Kurt Busiek.
*Unbelievably.
Mr. Mind - He's a mind controlling worm from Captain Marvel's rogues gallery. He had a very cool role during DC's last major crossover (which over-all sucked).
*Wasn't the last major cross-over OWAW? What was his role?
Miss America - Golden Age character. When Wonder Woman was erased from the GA because of Crisis, Miss America was her unofficial replacement in the JSA. But WW has recently been retconned back into the past JSA.
*Miss America remains in continuity. She was also a member of All Star Squadron, and she even gets mentioned by Spider in the later issues of James Robinson's Starman.
Rusalka - Very obscure. She was one of five Russian super heroes called the Soyuz that debuted in Firestorm's book.
Mr. Mxyzptlk - Yeah, as much as I'd like to see him, I don't think he can translate well into clix.
New-Wave - She is a villain made of water. Very similar to Hydro-Man.
*Originated in Batman and the Outsiders, correct?
Beautiful Dreamer and Big Bear - To New Gods that are part of the Forever People group (God bless Jack Kirby).
Doctor Bedlam - Don't tell me you didn't get the JLA/JSA: Virtue & Vice. Good book... lame villain.
*Not everyone can afford to spend 25 bucks on a comicbook.
Cluemaster - Old Batman villain who is the Spoiler's father.
*Obviously not enough people read Robin, Batman or Suicide Squad.
Multi-Man - Really cool villain. Every time he dies, he gets a new super power. There was a cool scene where Joker killed him over and over to get a usable power.
Clock King - He's not the same person as from the Batman cartoon. Actually, I'm not sure if he's ever fought Batman.
G’Nort - Well, I wanted someone with the GL ability.
*G'NOrt would be a hilarious addition.
Darkstar John Stewart - The reason I listed him as his Darkstar form is because I know John will be in an expansion as a GL.
Janissary - She's from the themed annuals DC had in 2000. She's the national hero of Turkey and possesses a flaming sword and Merlin's book of spells (that Etrigan wants to steal). What I liked about her was that she's a Muslim.
Uncle Sam - He's been seen around the DCU recently. Before that, he had the identiy of the hero known as Patriot. But he recently fought Superman because he's the Spirit of America and having Lex Luthor as president screwed him up.
*He was also in the JSA issue of OWAW (or was that when he was "Patriot?")
Advance Man - A lame villain used in a JLA 5th week event.
*Amen to lame. Moongirl too.
Oracle - I had a doctor's appointment and ran out of time while researching so I just threw her on the list and posted it. I agree that it would be improbable to have her in HeroClix.
*Nah. She got combat training by Richard Dragon after being put in the wheelchair (see Batman Chronicles). I'd dare give her 1-2 clicks of damage. Maybe some close combat expert, outwit or support. Perplex, since no one would expect her to be capable of being combative. Poison for gas weapons in her chair or somesuch.
Imperiex - He was a Galactus-like villain in a forgettable crossover. More than likely, he'll show up as a big figure.
*I so am with you in hating OWAW. I love the idea that it was forgettable. If only it were.
Cameron Chase - Again, look for that brilliant Chase series. It's a great jem of a comic. Also, if you've picked up any of the Secret Files books over the last two year, you might have seen the D.E.O. stories. She was the main character in them.
Access - I threw him in just to prove to people that this was a fake list.
Psimon - Old Teen Titans villain with mind powers.
Red Tornado I - If this was the android Red Tornado II, then it would have the potential to be in Clix. But this is the Golden Age version (Ma Hunkel).
*I made a custom of her using an AIM Medic.
Phantasm - this is actualy the name of a dead member of the Teen Titans. He was a young telekinetic who dressed ina costume similar to the cartoon Phantasm.
Tattooed Man - An obscure villain who was in the Injustice League.
*Not TOO obscure. He was also a recurring Green Lantern villain that Hal would face on occasion.
Azmodel - Any Zauriel fan should know him. He's the Kind Angel of Heaven's Bull Host who fought the JLA three times (well, once was while he had taken over the Spectre).
Spookythecat
03/02/2003, 18:14
Originally posted by hudson20
Sorry I skipped to the end. I don't have 20 minutes to spend reading each thread.
Well, I've always figured that twenty minutes of my time spend to avoid looking like a total marroon was a *good* deal.
I'm not sure which is more embarassing to admit:
1) I knew all the characters on the list
or
2) I really would like to have a Matter-Eater Lad clix
Originally posted by Sartori
Chris King (Dial H for Hero) - You have a good point about H-E-R-O making this a legit choice, but I think anyone with the H-Dial would be too difficult to translate into clix.
*I agree. Maybe the maker randomly chooses powers for each click of the dial?
Actually, I think this would be better as an LE run thing, or something similar, with no two figs the same. Only problem would be the point costs :/
Matter-Eater Lad - This is the only Legionnaire I included because all the other ones have the potnetial to be in HeroClix.
*Even Bouncing Boy? Chemical King? Gear?
Karate Kid? Superboy?
Doctor Bedlam - Don't tell me you didn't get the JLA/JSA: Virtue & Vice. Good book... lame villain.
*Not everyone can afford to spend 25 bucks on a comicbook.
Bedlam's a Fourth World (Jack Kirby) villain, and servant of Darkseid. I don't think he'd work as a fig, excepting as a unique, and POSSIBLY with his constructs as weakling R/E/V. Bedlam's appearance in the JLA/JSA read was the only real problem I had with it (I liked the liberal Green Arrow getting angry for the desecration of the American flag, for instance - not all political types are cookie cutter creations!). Bedlam's actually a very astute villain, but (as the comic said) prefers to remain behind the scenes. His portayal as weaker than Despero was, IMO, a mistake. Despero's strong and all, but Apokalips is Bedlam's home. He's a god, after all, and even Despero should have had a harder time taking him out.
Cluemaster - Old Batman villain who is the Spoiler's father.
*Obviously not enough people read Robin, Batman or Suicide Squad.
Multi-Man - Really cool villain. Every time he dies, he gets a new super power. There was a cool scene where Joker killed him over and over to get a usable power.
Clock King - He's not the same person as from the Batman cartoon. Actually, I'm not sure if he's ever fought Batman.
These (and at least one version of Major Disaster) would make nice additions to the Injustice League - low-level guys to round the team out.
Clock King has indeed fought Bats, back when CK was an Injustice Gang member. The modernized, Batman Adventures version is one change I'd have liked to seen in continuity, however.
G’Nort - Well, I wanted someone with the GL ability.
*G'NOrt would be a hilarious addition.
Dunno... hilarity doesn't translate well into numbers.
Darkstar John Stewart - The reason I listed him as his Darkstar form is because I know John will be in an expansion as a GL.
Confirmed - he's the LE fig.
Janissary - She's from the themed annuals DC had in 2000. She's the national hero of Turkey and possesses a flaming sword and Merlin's book of spells (that Etrigan wants to steal). What I liked about her was that she's a Muslim.
The problem with the series, IMO, was that most of the characters were essentially "Captain [Insert Country Here]." Their whole characterization was an amalgam of their homeland's beliefs and mores. Granted, Janissary was a departure from that trend (she wielded Excalibur, IIRC), but most "events" that produce new heroes, produce bad ones. Zero Hour produced two good additions (Primal Force and Starman), the one alien one (Bloodstorm?) produced Hitman, the above produced Janissary, etc. All in all, I have my doubts about bringing her back without any major appearances in comics before then.
Oracle - I had a doctor's appointment and ran out of time while researching so I just threw her on the list and posted it. I agree that it would be improbable to have her in HeroClix.
*Nah. She got combat training by Richard Dragon after being put in the wheelchair (see Batman Chronicles). I'd dare give her 1-2 clicks of damage. Maybe some close combat expert, outwit or support. Perplex, since no one would expect her to be capable of being combative. Poison for gas weapons in her chair or somesuch.
Leadership and Phase (see Nightwing: The Hunt for Oracle; Babs is almost never where anyone expects). Definitely unique, though.
Imperiex - He was a Galactus-like villain in a forgettable crossover. More than likely, he'll show up as a big figure.
*I so am with you in hating OWAW. I love the idea that it was forgettable. If only it were.
It had its moments, but it wasn't as good as Invasion, Underworld Unleashed, Final Night, or DC 1 Million. Again, it's always a bad idea to show how badass a new villain is by having an established and respected villain (esp. one of Darkseid's level of power) be worried about him.
Personally, I'm hoping the next big fig will be Manitou Raven.
Cameron Chase - Again, look for that brilliant Chase series. It's a great jem of a comic. Also, if you've picked up any of the Secret Files books over the last two year, you might have seen the D.E.O. stories. She was the main character in them.
Agreed. Chase was one comic that should have stayed around.
coastcityo
03/17/2003, 04:48
multi man was a member of the Injustice League with clock king, big sur, and major disaster. I think he had multiple personalities, but I don't remember him actually having any powers. It was during the Kieth Giffen funny JLA run of the 80's
spitfire06
03/18/2003, 22:19
Your list is completely, totaly, Ludacris!!!!
I think the expansion set should be called "CRISIS", in homage of all the Crises past: Crisis on Earth-1, Crisis on Earth-2, Crisis on Earth-3, Crisis on Earth-A, Crisis Between Earth-1 and Earth-2, The Super Crisis That Struck Earth-2, The Negative Crisis of Earth 1-2, Crisis on Earth-X, Crisis in Eternity, Crisis on Earth-S, Crisis in Tomorrow, Crisis in the 30th Century, Crisis in Triplicate, Crisis in Yesterday, Crisis from Tomorrow, Crisis Above Earth-1, Crisis on New Genesis, Crisis Between Two Earths, Crisis on Apokolips, Countdown to Crisis, Crisis in Limbo, Crisis on Earth Prime, Crisis in the Thunderbolt Dimension, Family Crisis, Last Crisis on Earth-2, and the coup de grace...CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS
What figures would I like to see? Take a look...
Ra's al Ghul (Unique)
Talia (Unique)
Ubu (Unique; Ra's Bodyguard)
Green Lantern (Kyle Rainer as the three regulars with the JLA Team Ability)
Green Lantern (A Unique version of Alan Scott to go with the Unique Flash)
Green Lantern (A Unique of the one, the only, HAL JORDAN)
Green Arrow (Connor Hawke as the three regulars with the JLA Team Ability)
Green Arrow (A Unique of Oliver Queen with a bunch of tricks like Incapacitate, Energy Explosion, etc...)
Black Canary (A Unique to complete the Hard Travelin' Heroes set)
Wonder Woman (with the JLA Team Ability)
Martian Manhunter (customize a Vision if they don't make him)
Captain Marvel (with the Mystic Team Ability so he can strike his opponents with the lightning bolt that changes him the way he did it to Superman in Kingdom Come)
Dr. Fate (with the Mystic and JSA Team Abilities)
Zatanna (with the Mystic and JLA Team Abilities)
Firestorm (with the JLA Team Ability)
Cosmic Boy (from the Legion of Super-Heroes)
Lightning Lad (from the Legion of Super Heroes)
Saturn Girl (from the Legion of Super Heroes)
Orion (Unique; to battle Darkseid with)
Scott Free (Unique)
Big Barda (Unique)
Ganthet (Unique)
Flash (A Unique of Barry Allen to go along with Hal and Ollie)
Mon-El (from the Legion of Super Heroes)
Donna Troy (from the Titans)
Arsenal (from the Titans)
Tempest (from the Titans)
Ultra Boy (from the Legion of Super Heroes)
Cyborg (from the Titans)
Starfire (from the Titans)
Raven (from the Titans; a black one and a white one would be cool)
Hawkgirl (with the JSA and JLA Team Abilities)
Lobo (his Experienced should be as a member of the JLA)
Jonah Hex (the past and future version would be cool)
League of Assassins Assassin (to field with Ra's, Talia, and Ubu)
DEO Agents (to field with good guys)
What'cha think...?
CyberVenom
03/18/2003, 22:59
Originally posted by Grinner
I'm not sure which is more embarassing to admit:
1) I knew all the characters on the list
or
2) I really would like to have a Matter-Eater Lad clix
I had the exact same feeling, friend! :)
I wasn't embarrased, but I could tell just how sad it was. LOL
It's been exactly four years since I posted this joke list. My intent was to use characters that, at the time, I thought we would never see in HeroClix. So, for fun, I dug up this list to see if any of these characters have actually made it into the game.
Mr. Mind - Recently revealed to be one of the uniques in DC Origin. At the time, I thought he would be too hard to do sculpt-wise and I didn't think his profile was high enough to be in clix (though he's a personal favorite character of mine). But since then, he's been featured in a JSA arc and one of the mysteries of 52. Plus, he's the main villain of the awesome Shazam!: Monster Society of Evil mini. So it's a great time to be getting Mr. Mind.
G'Nort - Before Collector's Sets and Action Packs, I never thought there would be a way to get G'Nort. There were too many other GLs that needed to be made before him. But thank God for the GL Aliens Collector's Set! We not only got G'Nort, but we also got other GLs that I would've thought was unlikely such as Ch'p, Abin Sur and Ganthet. I hope the next GL Alien set containts some of the more alien-looking GLs like Xax, Ke'Haan, Salakk and Chaselon.
Superman Red - I was honestly surprised when WizKids made the electro Superman version in Collateral Damage. I didn't think they would ever do that, although with Superman being one of the repeated characters in each set, I don't know why I thought that. But it was cool to see Superman Red appear and I thought WizKids did a great job on him.
Oracle - I think Oracle shocked a lot of us when she appeared in Legacy. I thought she wouldn't be very playable in HeroClix. Not to say that she can't defend herself, but I didn't think she would make for a competative piece. But then WizKids comes up with In Contact With Oracle and made her one of the most sought-after figures in the game. Smart.
Cameron Chase - Chase is one of my favorite characters, and I'm always happy when she pops up. I expected to eventually get a DEO Agent generic, but I didn't think they would base it off of Chase and then give us a Cameron Chase LE. I was thrilled!
Ma Hunkle - A Bystander token wasn't what I was hoping for, but at least it's something.
Now, looking over my list, I see several that I wouldn't have put on there if I did this joke list today. Several characters, like Psimon, have been used in big storylines over the last few years and have gone up in popularity. I can easily see some of them become clix now.
Psimon - Like I said, he's become more popular. One of the few things Judd Winick has done right is revitalizing the Fearsome Five. That's one of the reasons we got a new Jinx. I'm actually surprised that they haven't made Psimon or the other Fearsom Five members yet.
Imperiex - It was recently announced that he will be the main villain of the second season of the new Legion of Super-Heroes cartoon. So that brings him up from Unlikelyville to Probable City. And I can see him being great in an Action Pack. Think Days of the Future Past, where it could include a Sentinel-sized Imperiex with a Imperiex Probe clix and Superman or someone. That's doable.
Uncle Sam and Miss America - The Freedom Fighters have become higher profile in the last year. They were featured in a popular (though crappy) scene in DC's major crossover and it helped them support a decent mini-series. We're getting some Freedom Fighters in Origin and I wouldn't be surprised to see more in the 2nd DC set this year (especially since Freedom Fighters were seen on the JSA Museum map).
Zauriel - Why in the world hasn't he been made yet? He's the last remaining member of Morrison's JLA that hasn't been made.
And the great thing about DC right now is that they are combing through their back catalogues looking for old characters that they can polish up and bring to the forefront. So, who knows? They could make Beefeater a major player in the next big storyline. Which would result in him eventually getting a clix version. This is a fun time to be a fan of DC comics and clix.
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