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skunee
02/24/2003, 05:26
My wife and I were playing a game on Saturday. I was using R Mad Hatter to MC R Swampthing (and amazingly, it worked every time!). The way I understand the PAC is that when you MC someone:

1) -understood- you take a click of damage for every full 100 pts of the fig you are trying to control (but only if the attack is successful), so no damage from Swampthing (he is only 70-ish pts).

2) -understood- once you have control of someone, they count as freindly as long as you are in control of them and they have all of their powers, even if you outwitted them before that.

3) -the question- the fig that you MCed gets an action (taking one of your allotted actions...unless you use the JLA free move of course), but what I'm not sure of is if the MCer (mad hatter in this case) would get a token for using MC or not and also if it would take up one of my actions for the turn, thus using two actions to MC someone and them use them?

~thanx~

P.S.
official rulling...I didn't notice anything about my particular question in the FAQ.....just so no one will say to look their, unless you could reply with an acutal quote from the FAQ that I may have misses.

scowlingone
02/24/2003, 05:33
You put a token on the model after the end of the action. Once the action has ended, the model is no longer friendly to you. Hence, you are only using an action to Mind Control; you are not using one of your actions when the using the controlled model.

And, in the FAQ's example:

"7. Player 2 puts one of his action tokens on Batman [...] Player 1 only uses one action to Mind Control Batman, he does not use any of his actions to move (or attack) with the Batman. Player 2 uses none of his actions."

Todosi
02/24/2003, 10:05
So to clarify, one token from your pool to Mad Hatter, one from your opponent to Arcane. On your opponent's next turn, that token may be cleared from Arcane.

On a side note, the JLA abilitiy and all other free moves, are for movement ONLY, not anything else including attacks or move actions related to powers. (i.e. barrier, etc.)

Todosi

double_a
02/24/2003, 11:25
To further clarify, here is the full FAQ example:EXAMPLE #1: Player 1 has Prof X, Player 2 has SpiderMan, neither has tokens, or damage.
Player 1 declares a Mind Control Attack from Prof. Xavier.
Player 1 rolls a 9 making his attack total a 20, a successful attack.
Player 1 decides to have the SpiderMan run away using Leap/Climb. No break away is needed, SpiderMan is considered friendly to Prof. X at this point.
SpiderMan reaches his 10 speed limit and stops.
Player 1 puts one of his action tokens on Prof. X.
Player 1 gives Prof. X a click of damage for each full hundred points of the character he controlled (in this case, 1 click).
Player 2 puts one of his action tokens on SpiderMan. If SpiderMan had a previous token on him, after step 4, he would have taken a click of push damage and after step 6, SpiderMan would have two tokens. Player 1 only uses one action to Mind Control SpiderMan, he does not use any of his actions to move (or attack) with the SpiderMan. Player 2 uses none of his actions. The bolded passages apply to skunee's question.

skunee
02/25/2003, 13:51
thanx! I was thinking that it probably worked that way, but I just wanted to make sure. The only thing we didn't do was give mad hatter a token.

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