Check this team out, opinions?

[harles2000]

U. Nightcrawler
V. Bullseye
E. Boomerang
V. Logan
E. AIM Medic
E. Black Cat
R. Black Panther
R. Vulture

Nightcrawler is used to pummel those with short ranges and or BCF/stealth combos

Boomerang and Bullseye sit on a rooftop next to each other and use tue Syn. Sin. Team ability to have 2 attacks at Bullseyes 11 AV.
Medic heals, stays hidden behind something
Black Cat annoys with rerolls
Black Panther Annoys with outwit - hides in a bush as well
Vulture taxis Logan into b2b with whoever makes the mistake of getting in taxi range. Using Black cats prob control and Outwitting whatever defense bonus they have, that fig has a very bad night.

In a test this team did fairly well, had a problem with logan eventually getting ganged up on by 3 diff ranged attackers.
i also made the mistake of B2Bing with an unique elektra with black panther-bye bye panther on a critical hit with bcf.

[harles2000]

sheesh 22 looks, no comments, is it that bad or is everyone left speechless ;)

[webhead817]

Don't bump your threads fishing for compliments...


In any case, looks to be a prett solid team. It sounds like you move into position and then hang out.

Are you in a lurch if you lose Vulture early? Also, what do you do vs. a lot of stealth?

[LuckyJ]

Now, don't take any of this personally, cuz you asked, bud.

A few slight problems. Nightcrawler is not a big threat. Now, if you make this work for you, it can be great. Avoid pushing him, and try to keep him around near the end of the game.

In my opinion, he's a waste of 80-something points. For that cost, you could get a character who actually does decent damage. Games aren't won 2 damage at a time in my experience.

Also, Bullseye and Boomerang are very limited in their usefulness when they're stationary or on a rooftop. They'll be very prone to the attacks of someone like Human Torch, Superskrull, Annihilus, or pretty much anyone with Running Shot and a worthwhile attack.

However, the usage of the SS ability is very effective if you can pull it off. They've also got some great damage potential. Don't expect someone to just waltz right on up to them, though. Any good player will just stay outside their range. In this situation, they really won't be doing much.

If your opponent hits your Vulture, your mobility is effectively nil. Nightcrawler is still mobile, but won't be any use against invulnerability or impervious. And don't count on always being able to Outwit an unwanted power. You've only got one outwit against an entire team.

Lastly, you've got alot of points buried in support figures. I would bet that your Prob Control would be better spent on a vulture upgrade and a doombot or Wasp.

In conclusion, I would not be afraid of this team. Against certain kinds of teams, yours will do very well. But a good player with a Super-Skrull, Annihilus, Dr. Doom, Human Torch, Moondragon, U Elektra, or U Wolverine will not have much difficulty punching holes in your strategy. I'm not saying you couldn't win, but is has a few glaring weaknesses, namely only having one taxi having 5 clicks of life.

Just a little more mobility, and this'll be great. Also consider replacing Nightcrawler with a character that can do 3-4 damage or has Mind Control.

Best of luck

[Doctor Strange]

I would suggest replacing the AIM medic with a SHIELD>. true, you get a much lower attack rating, but black cat gains the SHIELD team ability which can enhance boomerangs dual energy explosion or incapicitate attacks. Either 4 damage or 2 damage + incapicitate. Not bad. I would also consider re-working nightcrawler or logan so that you can fit a vet doombot onto the team.. who can then use the synister syndicate ability and SHIELD ability as well. If you choose Nightcrawler, the doombot and black cat can also heal him, which can be nice if he's forced to push.

I do not think nightcrawler is a waste of points, he can be very effective on a team with 2 ranged attackers and 2 taxis. Logan, while powerfull and intimidating, might be the best pick for one to drop. Due to his battle fury, he will make vulture useless and he'll be easily overwhelmed while your ranged attackers are stranged on a roof.

Stick with nightcrawler and dont be afrade of stealth.. stealth teams are usualy limited in mobility and this is when nightcrawler truly shines. If you can eliminate thier taxis, nightcrawler will dominate.

[harles2000]

thanks for the input and youre right this is a low mobility team and i agree that bullseye and boomerang are vulnerable. ive been thinking of replacing them with a moondragon or even superskrull or something like that. if i had to i could go with a v Cyclops but im not a big fan of his. Im a fan of doombots but theyre expensive for taxi/wildcard ability. Ive also thought about trading out either black panther or black cat for a couple shield troopers to get a little boost to either the bullseye/boomer combo or to up moondragons potential. another less obvious and potentially nasty trick would be to use black cats admittedly limited range in conjunction with the shield guys. maybe have them set up and then have have taxi'd in for a short range pop for 4 damage, seeing as she could fix her own screw ups.

hmm, hows this?
U Moondragon 71
V Logan 60
E Black Cat 32
R Black Panther 27
V Aim Medic 18
U NightCrawler 83
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Total 291

Or maybe this
U Super Skrull 127
V Logan 60
R Black Panther 27
E Black Cat 32
E Shield Medic 16
V Doombot 38
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Total 300