Flash, trying something ... different!?

[mick77]

Ok, this is no Flash in Particular, the everyday outruns everyone even Superman Flash.

Give some feedback, espacially on the Speed SP, I'm trying to balance a powerful but appropiate power.

Please feel free to make the wording clearer if necessary.

#XXX U The Flash
Team: JLA
Range: 4 :bolt::bolt::bolt:
Points: XXX
Keywords: All those he deserve
m-dolphina-normald-normalg-normal121220212121921111182111118210101721010172KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOSpee d - Faster than light: The Flash can use Hypersonic Speed option 1 but with twice his unmodified Speed Value. Give The Flash 1 Click of unavoilable damage after using the Faster then light power.
Damage - GIves all he has: The Flash has Willpower and Plasticity
Trait :star: - Fastest man alive: The Flash has Hypersonic Speed

[VictorySaber]

I'm just kinda confused since as a trait, he has HSS... but with Faster Than Light, that sorta gives me the impression that if he uses HSS, he has to use the doubled movement, and take damage as long as he has that power visible... because HSS no longer has a second option. it's move, attack, move... the speed-bag option 2 disappeared.

However... I WOULD suggest if using faster than light, instead of doubling the speed value, you did something with the damage value... because if you're getting slammed with something moving that fast... even superman's gonna feel it. it may not seriously mess him up but then again, it might after all.

and I'd maybe make the incap a special power that could be used with HSS called "Steal Speed"... and either allow for an incap as a free action during HSS, or a single opposing character you move into adjacency with during your move part of the HSS gets their speed reduced by 3... thinking Walter West's Black Flash mojo going on

[Slade Wilson]

Ok, this is no Flash in Particular, the everyday outruns everyone even Superman Flash.

Give some feedback, espacially on the Speed SP, I'm trying to balance a powerful but appropiate power.

Please feel free to make the wording clearer if necessary.

#XXX U The Flash
Team: JLA
Range: 4 :bolt::bolt::bolt:
Points: XXX
Keywords: All those he deserve
m-dolphina-normald-normalg-normal121220212121921111182111118210101721010172KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOSpee d - Faster than light: The Flash can use Hypersonic Speed option 1 but with twice his unmodified Speed Value. Give The Flash 1 Click of unavoilable damage after using the Faster then light power.
Damage - GIves all he has: The Flash has Willpower and Plasticity
Trait :star: - Fastest man alive: The Flash has Hypersonic Speed

yes the trait and the sp are redundent. it should read
Speed - Faster than light:When The Flash uses Hypersonic Speed, He can double his unmodified Speed Value. Give The Flash 1 Click of unavoilable damage after using the Faster then light power.

however I dont see why he would ever need to use this power. It would be better to give him options like phasing or flurry on those clix, IMHO.

Also I dont think I like the attack values. I could see a max of 11 for a single clix, then a bunch of 10's and even a 9 or two.

The plasticity confuses me cause he has hss as a trait why is he going to chance staying based when he can move? I think EW in place of this power would work better, but thats me.

Last the range of 4 with 3 bolts doesnt work for me, he has a base of 2 damage for most of his dial so 2 bolts would make more sense.

It is differnet, and I like that you tryed to think outside the box.

[Rurouni KJS]

#XXX U The Flash
Team: JLA
Range: 4 :bolt::bolt::bolt:
Points: XXX
Keywords: All those he deserve
m-dolphina-normald-normalg-normal121220212121921111182111118210101721010172KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOSpee d - Faster than light: The Flash can use Hypersonic Speed option 1 but with twice his unmodified Speed Value. Give The Flash 1 Click of unavoilable damage after using the Faster then light power.
Damage - GIves all he has: The Flash has Willpower and Plasticity
Trait :star: - Fastest man alive: The Flash has Hypersonic Speed

The others are right about the SP, which should read: The Flash can use Hypersonic Speed. He can use it normally, or double his unmodified speed value for the action; deal him 1 unavoidable damage after the action.

I love the 4:bolt::bolt::bolt:. It's him using his incredible speed to blast multiple someones with his insta-tornadoes or lunging that extra little bit to punch someone hard in the face.

Wait. What's up with the HSS trait? He got the actual power. This would only bump his cost way up.

Speaking of cost, way to punk out on the toughest part of dream dial design. :p (Sure, one can design an ubër comix-accurit 11-click Superman with 20:m-wing:, 15:a-fist: 23:d-indomitable: 6:g-starburst:, but if one costs him just 269 points, one is a sad, unrealistic fanboy who'll always be frustrated by this game. And by life.)

[mick77]

thanks for the feedbacks

now some explanations.
First I'd forgot about the HHS option 2 thing. Having both SP and Trait meant that he would still be real fast, even after being outwitted. The SP Showed that even if he could be fast, he could be even faster but at the cost of 1 click of damage(exhaustion).

The DV SP with Plasticity was to make it harder for others to get away from him.

For the pts value, I really did not have any idea what to cost him.

here's an updated version.

#XXX U The Flash
Team: JLA
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: XXX
Keywords: All those he deserve
m-dolphina-normald-normalg-normal1411202131119213101821210182129172169172KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOSpeed - Faster than light: The Flash has Charge and Running Shot. When using Running Shot, the flash has a range of 4 and 3 targets
Attack - Where ever you are, I'll get you: The Flash can use Quake or Incapacitate. When The Flash moves, you can put up to 3 smoke cloud tokens in the first 3 squares the Flash passes through.
Damage - Gives all he has: The Flash has Willpower and Plasticity
Trait :star: - Fastest man alive: The Flash has Hypersonic Speed

[JNW7]

However... I WOULD suggest if using faster than light, instead of doubling the speed value, you did something with the damage value... because if you're getting slammed with something moving that fast... even superman's gonna feel it. it may not seriously mess him up but then again, it might after all.

This is what I've been thinking for The Flash. A momentum based special power. something like this

Momentum- The Flash has Hypersonic Speed, He can use it normally, or double his unmodified speed value for the action; deal him 1 unavoidable damage after the action. For every 6 squares The Flash moves modify his damage value by +1.