galactus vs. cog galactus

[CutieBoy_103]

can you still use the old rules of galactus if you're gonna be using the old galactus? for example, is the old galactus' cosmic multiattack still applicable in the present? or, you have to follow the multiattack power of the cog?

[Questions]

can you still use the old rules of galactus if you're gonna be using the old galactus? for example, is the old galactus' cosmic multiattack still applicable in the present? or, you have to follow the multiattack power of the cog?

Galactus, original version, still uses his own rules. In fact, the Player's Guide tells you that where Coming of Galactus' overlaps with Galactus to use Galactus' clarifications.

From the Player's Guide:
Where their powers overlap, the clarifications for Galactus apply to COG Galactus.

[CutieBoy_103]

Galactus, original version, still uses his own rules. In fact, the Player's Guide tells you that where Coming of Galactus' overlaps with Galactus to use Galactus' clarifications.

From the Player's Guide:

hmm, but those are clarifications only, how bout the special powers that galactus has? Like cosmic multiattack..

[Questions]

hmm, but those are clarifications only, how bout the special powers that galactus has? Like cosmic multiattack..

Cosmic Multiattack still works as written. There is no errata removing it.

(What I meant by the quote was that Galactus, original version, controls Coming of Galactus. Not only hasn't Galactus, original version with his Cosmic Multiattack not been replaced, but Coming of Galactus looks to him for guidance.)

[RedDragon]

no thery are different. the original still has cosmic muti-action. which gives him 3 separate actions per turn. move or power or attack action. in any order or use. but the new galactus can only use muti-attack power. which grant you two separate attack actions -1 damage on the second attack.

[Mr. Cranberry]

To answer another question. If you have the original Galactus and you want to play him in a Modern event ask the venue Judge if it is ok to use him. The stats that matter are the same and you should be able to use him with the CoG rules.

But again, that is to the discretion of the judge.

[Questions]

no thery are different. the original still has cosmic muti-action. which gives him 3 separate actions per turn. move or power or attack action. in any order or use.

While you have the effect right, it actually is called the Cosmic Multiattack. (CutieBoy_103 was correct.)

From the Galactus Rules:
Cosmic Multiattack
Give Galactus a power action; it can take three free actions. These free actions can be close or ranged combat, move, or power actions. This power can be used only once during each of your turns, and it cannot be countered or lost.

but the new galactus can only use muti-attack power. which grant you two separate attack actions -1 damage on the second attack.

You are combining the Multiattack ability and the Duo Attack bility. With the Multiattack ability, the damage is reduced by 1 on each attack. (But you can use power that include an attack, ranged combat, and close combat actions, not just attacks.)

From the Blackest Night PAC:
Give this character a power action. It can use two free actions. These free actions can be power actions that include an attack, close combat actions, or ranged combat actions, though free actions gained from this power can’t be used to activate this power. Resolve the first free action before giving it the second. Modify this character’s damage value by -1 to a minimum of 1. This character can’t use feats when using this power. This ability can’t be countered.

[RedDragon]

read what i said!!! thats what i said!!!! the old way the power worked you could use a move action to move then take two attack actions. range or close combat attacks. or you could take all move actions or all range or all close combat actions. the new way whatever action you take must end in a attack roll being made. so yes a power action to use TK in a attack. or range & close combat actions. but no move actions can be used. since there aren't any transporters colossal figure made yet. but if there every is one then you could take two move actions aka move & attack along with a muti-attack. this would also be true with a big fist figure. but as i said which is still true. you can only muti-attack with all colossal figure now. except the first galactus.

[RedDragon]

oh and sorry about the miss quote on the -1. please forgive me if i confused anyone. muti-attack is all one action not two separate actions.yes two attacks but one action.

[Questions]

read what i said!!! thats what i said!!!!

Not sure which part of my answer upset you.

since there aren't any transporters colossal figure made yet. but if there every is one then you could take two move actions aka move & attack along with a muti-attack.

The Move and Attack ability uses HSS now so it requires a power action, not a move action.

From the Blackest Night PAC re: Move and Attack:
When this character is not adjacent to an opposing character, it can use Hypersonic Speed, however its attack value is modified by -2 and it does not halve its range value.

From the Blackest Night PAC re: Hypersonic Speed:
Give this character a power action.

oh and sorry about the miss quote on the -1. please forgive me if i confused anyone. muti-attack is all one action not two separate actions.yes two attacks but one action.

It's one overarching action with two free actions in it that can be used for actions, not just attacks. You keep using the words action and attack seemingly interchangeably when they are not interchangeable in Heroclix.

[CutieBoy_103]

Cosmic Multiattack still works as written. There is no errata removing it.

(What I meant by the quote was that Galactus, original version, controls Coming of Galactus. Not only hasn't Galactus, original version with his Cosmic Multiattack not been replaced, but Coming of Galactus looks to him for guidance.)

oh now i understand! so in playing a game with him, you do have the option of fielding either original G or cog G, right?? well, i would choose original G if that's the case! (of course, only in golden age..:))

[Questions]

oh now i understand! so in playing a game with him, you do have the option of fielding either original G or cog G, right?? well, i would choose original G if that's the case! (of course, only in golden age..:))

Correct. (Unless your judge has a problem with it.)

[CutieBoy_103]

Correct. (Unless your judge has a problem with it.)

ok! thanks for the enlightenment!:)

[vlad3theimpaler]

To answer another question. If you have the original Galactus and you want to play him in a Modern event ask the venue Judge if it is ok to use him. The stats that matter are the same and you should be able to use him with the CoG rules.

But again, that is to the discretion of the judge.

Actually, you SHOULDN'T be able to use him with the CoG rules. They are two separate figures with different collector's numbers, special rules, and (slight) wardrobe changes. The original Galactus uses the original rules (modified by any errata in the player's guide), including the Cosmic Multi-Attack. The Galactus from the Coming of Galactus uses a separate set of rules, giving him the Multi-Attack ability listed in the rulebook, but not the Cosmic Multi-Attack. The two versions are not interchangeable, and Norm specifically states that only the "Eater of Worlds" version falls under the "Modern Age" category. As the two versions of Galactus have slightly different powers, only the more recent Coming of Galactus event version remains legal.

I don't mean to get on your case about this; I just wanted to make sure that people didn't get the false impression that the figures are interchangeable.
And you got the really important part right: when in doubt, Ask your judge.

[ShadowMark]

It's one overarching action with two free actions in it that can be used for actions, not just attacks. You keep using the words action and attack seemingly interchangeably when they are not interchangeable in Heroclix.

I think what he meant was both actions have to be attacks. You can't move via L/C or P/T with Multi-Attack and then do a range or close combat action. Each of the free actions you give the colossals has to include an attack

[Questions]

I think what he meant was both actions have to be attacks. You can't move via L/C or P/T with Multi-Attack and then do a range or close combat action. Each of the free actions you give the colossals has to include an attack

That may be what he was getting at, but it wasn't being put in the posts. Reading the posts, action and attack were being used interchangeably. (The quote even shows you that.)

And depending on how you look at it, that's not quite true. You could give a character a power action to use Running Shot and then choose not to attack (even if there is a legal target.) That would be a free action that I would say doesn't include an attack. (Your opinion may differ on that.)

[ShadowMark]

And depending on how you look at it, that's not quite true. You could give a character a power action to use Running Shot and then choose not to attack (even if there is a legal target.) That would be a free action that I would say doesn't include an attack. (Your opinion may differ on that.)

If it is a free action that doesn't include an attack you could not do it, then. Because Multi-Attack states that it must be an action that includes an attack.

I would say that RS includes an attack whether you choose to attack or not. But, don't see why you wouldn't. It is called Multi-Attack, after all :)

[Questions]

If it is a free action that doesn't include an attack you could not do it, then. Because Multi-Attack states that it must be an action that includes an attack.

Actually Multiattack indicates that it has to be a power action that includes an attack, a close combat action, or a ranged combat action. Going back to an earlier comment, the old Move and Attack ability actually wouldn't work with Multiattack as written now nor would it work with any future move actions that include attacks.

From the PAC re: Multiattack:
These free actions can be power actions that include an attack, close combat actions, or ranged combat actions, though free actions gained from this power can’t be used to activate this power.

I would say that RS includes an attack whether you choose to attack or not. But, don't see why you wouldn't. It is called Multi-Attack, after all :)

I said your opinion might differ. And the reason you don't want to attack is because you want to move up twice and the only target after the first move is a Mystic and you'd prefer not to take Mystic damage.

[Mr. Cranberry]

Actually, you SHOULDN'T be able to use him with the CoG rules. They are two separate figures with different collector's numbers, special rules, and (slight) wardrobe changes. The original Galactus uses the original rules (modified by any errata in the player's guide), including the Cosmic Multi-Attack. The Galactus from the Coming of Galactus uses a separate set of rules, giving him the Multi-Attack ability listed in the rulebook, but not the Cosmic Multi-Attack. The two versions are not interchangeable, and Norm specifically states that only the "Eater of Worlds" version falls under the "Modern Age" category.

What I meant was, both have the same stats and combat values. If a player had bought the original and was unable to win one, pull a redemption ticket or didn't want to purchase a second one I, as a judge, would have no problem with them running that original one as part of their Modern Age force. They would just have to use the CoG rules.

Granted I also never understood why we weren't allowed to use the Purple ring figures that were exactly the same as their silver ring counter-parts. They never had Promo, promotional, demo on them.

[RedDragon]

Actually, you SHOULDN'T be able to use him with the CoG rules. They are two separate figures with different collector's numbers, special rules, and (slight) wardrobe changes. The original Galactus uses the original rules (modified by any errata in the player's guide), including the Cosmic Multi-Attack. The Galactus from the Coming of Galactus uses a separate set of rules, giving him the Multi-Attack ability listed in the rulebook, but not the Cosmic Multi-Attack. The two versions are not interchangeable, and Norm specifically states that only the "Eater of Worlds" version falls under the "Modern Age" category.

I don't mean to get on your case about this; I just wanted to make sure that people didn't get the false impression that the figures are interchangeable.
And you got the really important part right: when in doubt, Ask your judge.

this is what i was trying to get across also. but once someone tried to turn it into a thread (post) war i shut up.

[RedDragon]

I think what he meant was both actions have to be attacks. You can't move via L/C or P/T with Multi-Attack and then do a range or close combat action. Each of the free actions you give the colossals has to include an attack

thank you sir. this was all i was saying. its all in my post. i even explained that you could use a power to use TK as long as it ends with a attack roll being made. but some people can't say they just might be wrong oh well.

[RedDragon]

If it is a free action that doesn't include an attack you could not do it, then. Because Multi-Attack states that it must be an action that includes an attack.

I would say that RS includes an attack whether you choose to attack or not. But, don't see why you wouldn't. It is called Multi-Attack, after all :)

thank you again. rep points send out.

[ShadowMark]

Actually Multiattack indicates that it has to be a power action that includes an attack, a close combat action, or a ranged combat action. Going back to an earlier comment, the old Move and Attack ability actually wouldn't work with Multiattack as written now nor would it work with any future move actions that include attacks.


Isn't this what I said, not once, but twice? Multi-Attack includes the above as long as you are attacking in the given free action. Whether it be a ranged or close combat action, or a power action resulting in an attack, it is still including an attack.

And btw, Move and Attack would work with Multi-Attack because it is a power action (HSS) that gives and attack as a free action.

[RedDragon]

Isn't this what I said, not once, but twice? Multi-Attack includes the above as long as you are attacking in the given free action. Whether it be a ranged or close combat action, or a power action resulting in an attack, it is still including an attack.

And btw, Move and Attack would work with Multi-Attack because it is a power action (HSS) that gives and attack as a free action.

true they did change it from a move action to a HSS attack -2 to your attack value. but as i posted above there is aren't any colossals with the transporter abilities yet. but one day huh. "hope is all we have." babylon 5.

[Questions]

Isn't this what I said, not once, but twice? Multi-Attack includes the above as long as you are attacking in the given free action. Whether it be a ranged or close combat action, or a power action resulting in an attack, it is still including an attack.

And btw, Move and Attack would work with Multi-Attack because it is a power action (HSS) that gives and attack as a free action.

The old Move and Attack. When it was a move action. I clearly said old Move and Attack. But really, I think this thread is beyond done. If you feel the need to keep going, keep going.

[vlad3theimpaler]

What I meant was, both have the same stats and combat values. If a player had bought the original and was unable to win one, pull a redemption ticket or didn't want to purchase a second one I, as a judge, would have no problem with them running that original one as part of their Modern Age force. They would just have to use the CoG rules.

Granted I also never understood why we weren't allowed to use the Purple ring figures that were exactly the same as their silver ring counter-parts. They never had Promo, promotional, demo on them.

Why would you have them use the CoG rules though? If you're using the original Galactus, should it not be using the rules that apply to the original Galactus?
The problem I see with you allowing one version of Galactus to be used as the other is that it sets a precedent for proxying figures. Would you allow Sgt. Tork to be used as Val Cooper? They have the same combat values, but different powers. What about two figures with the same point cost but different stats? Can the starter Dr. Doom be used as the Victor Von Doom LE for a player that wasn't able to win one?

I agree with you on the purple ring figures, and I would have no issue with using the original Galactus with the rules for that particular figure, but my issue lies in using the rules for one figure when you're actually playing a different figure.

[Tarnish]

Why would you have them use the CoG rules though? If you're using the original Galactus, should it not be using the rules that apply to the original Galactus?
The problem I see with you allowing one version of Galactus to be used as the other is that it sets a precedent for proxying figures. Would you allow Sgt. Tork to be used as Val Cooper? They have the same combat values, but different powers. What about two figures with the same point cost but different stats? Can the starter Dr. Doom be used as the Victor Von Doom LE for a player that wasn't able to win one?

I agree with you on the purple ring figures, and I would have no issue with using the original Galactus with the rules for that particular figure, but my issue lies in using the rules for one figure when you're actually playing a different figure.

I think a lot of people would allow it because the figure dials and sculpt are identical. The only difference (when used as part of a force) is the two different rule sheets.

Tarnish

[RedDragon]

that and the ALL IMPORTANT MUTI-ATTACK DEFERENCE!

[vlad3theimpaler]

I think a lot of people would allow it because the figure dials and sculpt are identical. The only difference (when used as part of a force) is the two different rule sheets.

Tarnish

Right, but it is a difference. My question still stands: Why use the original Galactus as the newer Galactus, instead of using him as intended?

that and the ALL IMPORTANT MUTI-ATTACK DEFERENCE! While I do indeed defer to the awesome Cosmic Multi-attack, I suspect that you meant difference.

[RedDragon]

Right, but it is a difference. My question still stands: Why use the original Galactus as the newer Galactus, instead of using him as intended?

While I do indeed defer to the awesome Cosmic Multi-attack, I suspect that you meant difference.

lol when you're right you're right lmao. its 2a.m. wednesday here now i have been up since 4a.m. tuesday.lmao. going to bed need sleep.

[Mr. Cranberry]

Why would you have them use the CoG rules though? If you're using the original Galactus, should it not be using the rules that apply to the original Galactus?
The problem I see with you allowing one version of Galactus to be used as the other is that it sets a precedent for proxying figures. Would you allow Sgt. Tork to be used as Val Cooper? They have the same combat values, but different powers. What about two figures with the same point cost but different stats? Can the starter Dr. Doom be used as the Victor Von Doom LE for a player that wasn't able to win one?

I agree with you on the purple ring figures, and I would have no issue with using the original Galactus with the rules for that particular figure, but my issue lies in using the rules for one figure when you're actually playing a different figure.

I would allow them to do this in Modern Age only. Because the original Galactus is Golden Age only. If they brought the original to a Golden Age event then they use the rules that came with it. Though if I'm running a 600- 2,000pt Modern Age game and they wanted to play their original Galactus I would say that is fine, but you are using the CoG rules since the stats are the same and that is the one that is legal.

Please, if I'm unclear on this tell me what part you don't understand.

[Bat-Phreak]

I would allow them to do this in Modern Age only. Because the original Galactus is Golden Age only. If they brought the original to a Golden Age event then they use the rules that came with it. Though if I'm running a 600- 2,000pt Modern Age game and they wanted to play their original Galactus I would say that is fine, but you are using the CoG rules since the stats are the same and that is the one that is legal.

Please, if I'm unclear on this tell me what part you don't understand.

I agree.

2.1.2 Reprinted Characters: When a character has been reissued in a Modern Age set, then the Golden Age equivalent character can be used in a Modern Age event as well. An equivalent character has all the same game mechanics and sculpt, differing only by it’s set symbol and figure number.

Since CoG has different 4th dial, the new Tournament Rules entry on Reprinted Characters may not be 100% accurate, but it's close enough for my purposes. The Game Mechanic difference between the 2 figures only comes into paly during the Galactus Scenario.

If a player wanted to field a 2004 Galactus in a Modern Age tournament, he would have to use CoG rules document.

[Overdrive]

This is just a general thanks to everyone who has posted on this thread for clearing up how Cosmic Multi-Attack, Multi-Attack and the who different versions of Galactus work. Since I can't friggin' afford Galactus and haven't seen one played, I was still unclear.

Boy, that Cosmic Multi-Attack really is incredible. I always figured Galactus would just walk forward and destroy everyone, but using a move-attack-move pattern with Cosmic Multiattack, he could really tear opponents up before they even get close enough to touch him! Man, now I want one!

[RedDragon]

i owned the original one sold it for $180 on e-bay. never wanted the new one. i didn't like the paint job on it. i had faced my twice, & used it once before i sold it. it was not fun. my friend who was a great player took my whole them out in three turn. so 5 minutes and game over not fun. first time i had all ultimate avengers. secon time all KC team. not you can't use comic-muti attack with muti-attack. but with a 16 range 3 targets any player can beat anyone one. a little knowledge of how to play the game is all you'll need to win. he'll play himself. that why so many venues restrict the old one in events where he could be used. he can reach anywhere on the map and make 2 attacks every turn. 3 if he doesn't move, TA stops outwit. just broken not fun at all. so thats 14-21 points damage a turn. and even with stealth in play. most stealth figure don't have reducer's. so 7-21 points of damage a turn. not fun. IMO

[Bat-Phreak]

i owned the original one sold it for $180 on e-bay. never wanted the new one. i didn't like the paint job on it. i had faced my twice, & used it once before i sold it. it was not fun. my friend who was a great player took my whole them out in three turn. so 5 minutes and game over not fun. first time i had all ultimate avengers. secon time all KC team. not you can't use comic-muti attack with muti-attack. but with a 16 range 3 targets any player can beat anyone one. a little knowledge of how to play the game is all you'll need to win. he'll play himself. that why so many venues restrict the old one in events where he could be used. he can reach anywhere on the map and make 2 attacks every turn. 3 if he doesn't move, TA stops outwit. just broken not fun at all. so thats 14-21 points damage a turn. and even with stealth in play. most stealth figure don't have reducer's. so 7-21 points of damage a turn. not fun. IMO

Yeah, 2004 Galactus was really not that much fun to play, and even worse if you faced him without a team designed to take him down.

Since 2004 Galactus could not ignore Stealth or Mastermind, 2004 Galactus could be whittled down by characters using those powers. The only concern was staying at range 9+ from Galactus, in case he ended up on a click with Pulse Wave. Even then, if the Galactus player was paying attention to the Cosmic Multi-Attack, he would Move, then Pulse Wave + Pulse Wave; curtains for Vet CT Dr Doom!

[RedDragon]

try seeing your ultimate thor go down on one turn. and this is at the time where he ruled the tournment sence.
or hittting him with kc superman onto his pulsewave clicks. which he then procedes to blast your team to dust. like they are sand on the map. KC supes, KC bats, KC wonder woman, KC hawkman, KC flash, KC grenn lantern, magog, and shazam all just pushed away in less then 10 turns. all heavy hitters but not against him.

[hanzoslash]

try seeing your ultimate thor go down on one turn. and this is at the time where he ruled the tournment sence.
or hittting him with kc superman onto his pulsewave clicks. which he then procedes to blast your team to dust. like they are sand on the map. KC supes, KC bats, KC wonder woman, KC hawkman, KC flash, KC grenn lantern, magog, and shazam all just pushed away in less then 10 turns. all heavy hitters but not against him.

Which is completely comic accurate.

Galactus is the man.

[vlad3theimpaler]

I agree.



Since CoG has different 4th dial, the new Tournament Rules entry on Reprinted Characters may not be 100% accurate, but it's close enough for my purposes. The Game Mechanic difference between the 2 figures only comes into paly during the Galactus Scenario.

If a player wanted to field a 2004 Galactus in a Modern Age tournament, he would have to use CoG rules document.

No, it doesn't only come into play during the scenario. As has been stated previously in this thread, one has the Cosmic Multi-Attack ability, and the other one has the Standard Multi-Attack, when used as part of a force.
If a player wanted to field a 2004 Galactus in Modern Age tournament, he can't. It's not the same figure.
Individual judges can make exceptions to that as a houserule, such as Mr. Cranberry that already posted, and that's fine. But they are not interchangeable, and one should not expect to be able to show up at any old tournament with one and say that it's being used as the other.

[Mr. Cranberry]

No, it doesn't only come into play during the scenario. As has been stated previously in this thread, one has the Cosmic Multi-Attack ability, and the other one has the Standard Multi-Attack, when used as part of a force.

Neither of which are on the figs themselves. It doesn't change the figure, it's just how you use them.

Individual judges can make exceptions to that as a houserule, such as Mr. Cranberry that already posted, and that's fine. But they are not interchangeable, and one should not expect to be able to show up at any old tournament with one and say that it's being used as the other.


Ok, you contradicted yourself here with this statement.

[vlad3theimpaler]

Neither of which are on the figs themselves. It doesn't change the figure, it's just how you use them.




Ok, you contradicted yourself here with this statement.

How did I contradict myself? I said that individual judges can make a houserule, but that doesn't change what the rules as written are. You can't stroll into GenCon with a Galactus from 2004 and play him as the Coming of Galactus version.

And as to the first part of your statement, from the new comprehensive tournament rules:
Reprinted Characters: When a character has been reissued in a Modern Age set, then the Golden Age equivalent character can be used in a Modern Age event as well. An equivalent character has all the same game mechanics and sculpt, differing only by it’s set symbol and figure number.
Cosmic Multi-Attack and Multi=Attack are different game mechanics. It doesn't matter if they're on the dial or not. Just like different traits would distinguish figures, even if their stats on the dial were identical.
Also, I believe that the different paint job would also count as a different sculpt. That part I'm not certain about; I could see it being interpreted either way.

[Mr. Cranberry]

...at any old tournament with one and say that it's being used as the other.

This right here is key...

How did I contradict myself? I said that individual judges can make a houserule, but that doesn't change what the rules as written are. You can't stroll into GenCon with a Galactus from 2004 and play him as the Coming of Galactus version.

Your previous comment referred to any event, not a specific one like Worlds, Invitational, Nationals, etc...that's completely different as house rules don't come into play as I've seen.

Though in regular Venue events you mentioned a Judge can house rule it, knowing this a player can somewhat expect to bring O'le G and use him with the new rules since most players know their judges. If they're going to a new venue then they'll prolly have a back-up team just in case.

And as to the first part of your statement, from the new comprehensive tournament rules:

Cosmic Multi-Attack and Multi=Attack are different game mechanics. It doesn't matter if they're on the dial or not. Just like different traits would distinguish figures, even if their stats on the dial were identical.
Also, I believe that the different paint job would also count as a different sculpt. That part I'm not certain about; I could see it being interpreted either way.

Ok, so far we don't have other figures that have the same exact stats, but with different traits, making this point wholly moot since.

At this point I don't know if you're disagreeing just for the sake of disagreeing. But we'll see if I can simplify it.

Do both of the Galactus figs have the same Range?

Do both of the Galactus figs have the same AV?

Do both of the Galactus figs have the same DV?

Do both of the Galactus figs have the same Move Values?

Do both of the Galactus figs have the same Damage?

Are the Standard Powers the same on both dials? Are they in the same locations on both dials?

Other than the Cosmic/Multi attack abilities is there anything else different about these figs when used as part of a force? (if you answer paint job & set number I may have to back hand you :p:laugh:)


Therefore if you used the Original Galactus using the rules of the CoG then it would be no different than using the CoG Galactus. The way he would attack & take damage would be the same, correct?

[Harpua]

So what's the actual question at this point?

Is it "Can you play the original Galactus as a proxy for the new Galactus is you play him using the new Galactus' rules?"

If that's the question, the official answer is no.



There are things that go without saying here, so I'm not saying them.

[Mr. Cranberry]

So what's the actual question at this point?

Is it "Can you play the original Galactus as a proxy for the new Galactus is you play him using the new Galactus' rules?"

If that's the question, the official answer is no.

There are things that go without saying here, so I'm not saying them.

I think the question was if a Judge could house rule that for a local Modern Age event.

[Harpua]

I think the question was if a Judge could house rule that for a local Modern Age event.

That's one of the things that goes without saying as the judge can do pretty much whatever he wants to do.

He could rule that just like he could rule that non-free actions can be given to figures after they've been carried or that players with a Y in their first names automatically lose.

[Questions]

He could rule that just like he could rule that non-free actions can be given to figures after they've been carried or that players with a Y in their first names automatically lose.

Poor Gary.

[RedDragon]

thank you harpua. the deputies don't come when you want them, but they always come right on time. the op had been answered & explained but other just wanted the thread to go on though alittle word play. with the answers given. hopefully someone could close the tread now.

[vlad3theimpaler]

I think the question was if a Judge could house rule that for a local Modern Age event.

I did say it could be houseruled. I thought you were arguing that the current rules allowed it without needing a house rule. Otherwise, I would have quit posting here days ago. Oh well.

And thank you, Harpua, for coming in to clear things up.

[szude]

Which is completely comic accurate.

Galactus is the man.

Well, I'm very glad comic accuracy takes precedence over THE GAME BEING FUN.