I have numbers, Web of Spider-Man

[CoolJerk]

Unless otherwise noted, these are first-person observations from the NECA Booth at SDCCI. Double dashes (--) means I didn't see that number, so that 'Clix was not on display.

#1 HAMMER Agent
#2 Symbiote**
#3 Researcher
#4 Nurse
#5 Code: Blue Officer
#6 Mugger
#7 Spider-Man
#8 Peter Parker
#9 Venom
#10 Eddie Brock
#11 Prowler
#12 Puma
#13 Will o the Wisp
#14 Iron Man
#15 Molten Man
#16 Ironclad**

#17 HAMMER Elite Operative*
#18 Carnage
#19 Chameleon
#20 Firestar
#21 Lt. Marcus Stone
#22 Spider-Man (black suit)
#23 Norman Osborn
#24 Ben Reilly
#25 Anti-Venom
#26 Black Cat
#27 X-23
#28 Warpath
#29 Wolfsbane
#30 Mary Jane Watson
#31 Daken
#32 Vector

#33 Menace
#34 Victor Mancha
#35 J. Jonah Jameson
#36 Vermin
#37 Scorpion
#38 Noh-Varr
#39 Iron Patriot
#40 Scarlet Spider**
#41 Cardiac
#42 Bullseye
#43 Wolverine
#44 Rocket Racer
#45 Solo
#46 Jackal
#47 Nightcrawler
#48 X-Ray

NOTE: Ironclad is confirmed, but not on display. I'm betting #16, since the other U-Foes occupy the last slots for U, R and SR.

#49 Groot SR
#50 Red Hulk SR
#51 The Spot SR**
#52 Morlun SR
#53 Red She-Hulk SR
#54 Doc Octopus
#55 Sandman SR
#56 Mysterio SR
#57 Deadpool SR*
#58 Green Goblin SR
#59 Iron Man/War Machine SR
#60 Vapor SR

#61 Spider-Hulk SR
#62 Doppelganger SR
#63 Bombastic Bag-Man SR**
#64 Cosmic Spider-Man SR

#100 Brick fig (Amazing Fantasy 15)
#101 Spider-Man LE
#102 Night Nurse
#103 --
#104 Daken (costumed as Wolverine)
#105 The Burglar

*Not on display, but number is confirmed elsewhere
**Recently confirmed by spies at GenCon

[refrusdraob]

wow thank you

[WildTurkey]

Sweet thanks...

[jhunt]

thanks for the list but a couple of people said that Groot is a Rare not a Super Rare that would make him #40. If that the case then were missing #10, 2 Super rares & 1 Chase

[neoclix]

wow so I guess doppelganger is a Chase??? thats unexpected. Cosmic spider-man I thought would be a chase

[Ignatz_Mouse]

#61 --
#62 Doppelganger SR
#63 --
#64 Cosmic Spider-Man SR



Chases? It would appear so.

[spiderstrike]

Now that is outstanding work. Thanks!

[ManOfCopper89]

Really, really sorely disappointed if it is true that Cosmic Spider-Man is a chase. He is easily one of my biggest wants from this set and an SR would be easier for me to acquire, but I have no luck pulling chases.

4 cases over the past couple years and not a single chase... I'm due, right?

[Thanos-The-Mad-Titan]

Thanks a lot man. I was going crazy trying to figure the numbers out. Heres hoping the set is extended by 4 and there are no chases!

[CoolJerk]

thanks for the list but a couple of people said that Groot is a Rare not a Super Rare that would make him #40. If that the case then were missing #10, 2 Super rares & 1 Chase

The little color chip on his dial is definitely copper-colored, not white, green or silver. His number is difficult to make out because of the distance between the figure and my eyeballs. For all I know Groot might be #61 or #63, but it appears the Chases are all Spider-Man variants.

NECA seems to rearrange the figures a little bit each morning. I hope they can reposition Groot a bit closer to the glass.

[lukebuchanan]

The little color chip on his dial is definitely copper-colored, not white, green or silver. His number is difficult to make out because of the distance between the figure and my eyeballs. For all I know Groot might be #61 or #63, but it appears the Chases are all Spider-Man variants.

NECA seems to rearrange the figures a little bit each morning. I hope they can reposition Groot a bit closer to the glass.


Heh.....if they make Groot a chase, I quit the game. No question.....

Though I'm glad Doppelganger is a chase. No interest there.

So it's safe to assume Spider-Hulk, Cosmic Spidey, Doppelganger and one other are the chases. Wonder what the last one will be?

[Dragon_Rose]

I have Never wanted chases/SR's so badly. In fact I never got a chase, and was absolutely fine with it.

[CoolJerk]

Looking at the numbers of Common and Uncommon and how certain characters parallel each other, my gut tells me Eddie Brock is #2 and Code: Blue Officer is #5.

IIRC Common Researcher might actually be Uncommon Chameleon in disguise (i.e. the Chameleon is pulling off a latex mask, which might be the "Researcher." I didn't put 2 + 2 together when looking at the 'Clix shuffled about on display. It would make sense. I'll double-check to see if the clothing is the same.

[C-Dog]

So there are really only 4 characters we don't know -- a Common (if Ironclad is #16), a Rare, a Super Rare (if Groot and Doc Ock take two of the last spots), and a Chase (if indeed SpiderHulk is the third one). Cool!

C

[C-Dog]

Edit: Whoops -- forgot that last LE.

C

[Bat-Dude]

An unattainable Doppelganger pretty much sends me over the finale edge of what little sanity I have left. I'm going to leave the boards now out of pure raw anger, but I can't promise I won't be ranting continuously whenever I come back.

[Dr. Morbius]

Doppleganger a Chase is complete Bull****!!! Why don't they make the stupid dark reign #### characters chases?!?!? Oh man...Whoever pulls it and needs a Thor Frog of Thunder Chase...lemme know!

[Blue_Shield]

[QUOTE=Dr. Morbius;4869991]Doppleganger a Chase is complete Bull****!!! Why don't they make the stupid dark reign #### characters chases?!?!? QUOTE]

Totally agree here.

[DeadpoolDX]

i have no problems with the chases Doppelganger to me is a character who i pictured as a chase the whole time. I do have a slight problem with Deadpool and Groot as SR and would rather see Night Nurse as something other than a LE. I also don't like seeing MJ and JJJ taking up spaces as actual clix. They should have been LE's.

[feluwelt]

very very very sad that cosmic spidey is a SR, I have been waiting for this figure since supernova. I still have the comic with him. Now I have to buy a case and pray that I pull him or pull someone that I can use to trade for him.

[traitorarmor]

very very very sad that cosmic spidey is a SR, I have been waiting for this figure since supernova. I still have the comic with him. Now I have to buy a case and pray that I pull him or pull someone that I can use to trade for him.

Wait.....:confused:......you are dissapointed that he's a SR (at best :noid:, sounds like it might be a bit worse)?

What did you think he was going to be? A uncommon? :confused:

[feluwelt]

Wait.....:confused:......you are dissapointed that he's a SR (at best :noid:, sounds like it might be a bit worse)?

What did you think he was going to be? A uncommon? :confused:

I meant to say I am disapointed he is a chase figure, a SR I would not mind.

I can spend 20 to 30 on a figure i want but 100 geese

[MarshallXIII]

Now id doppleganger, cosmic spider and spider hulk are chases, it stands to reason that the 4th chase will be spiderman as well....guesses?

[Clclix]

Just because they are numbered higher than 60, doesn't necessarily mean they are Chases. This is a 64 fig advertised set...since when has Neca advertised the Chase figs in the set number...NEVER is the answer...its a 64 fig set.

[fox007]

since we r gettin a ben reilly AE do u think that we could be gettin a new scarlet spider or the ben reilly spider-man costume?

[mike_houghton]

So people are angry because a company made a figure they wanted and it might be a chase? They didnt do it personally.
Honestly WK cant win in this situation. People dont want good figures as chases, but chases need to be figures that people will actively seek out, hence buying more packs.
If you make them only decent clix but characters the majority of the populace have only a little interest in, then there will not be any interest in chasing them.

Dont get into a Collectable anything unless you are willing to "collect" and play by the rules of the hobby. IE having to search out, or pay extra for the premium figures.

[Shellhead's Pal]

Just because they are numbered higher than 60, doesn't necessarily mean they are Chases. This is a 64 fig advertised set...since when has Neca advertised the Chase figs in the set number...NEVER is the answer...its a 64 fig set.
Yeah! For all we know, there could very well be 16 Super-Rares instead of 12 this time. It certainly would sell more boosters. And there could even be another 4 chases lurking in the boosters that we haven't seen yet.

After all, traditionally the chases have been kept secret until the very last possible moment when boosters are cracked open. I'm betting Cosmic Spidey and Doppelganger are merely Super-Rares.

At least I hope so, for Bat-Dude's sanity. :)

[Pepsirox08]

why the heck is doppleganger a chase? already the least wanted one... he should be a common piece so we can run swarms!!

[feluwelt]

So people are angry because a company made a figure they wanted and it might be a chase? They didnt do it personally.
Honestly WK cant win in this situation. People dont want good figures as chases, but chases need to be figures that people will actively seek out, hence buying more packs.
If you make them only decent clix but characters the majority of the populace have only a little interest in, then there will not be any interest in chasing them.

Dont get into a Collectable anything unless you are willing to "collect" and play by the rules of the hobby. IE having to search out, or pay extra for the premium figures.

in my opinion they should have made the no power figures chases

Mary Jane
Aunt May
J J Jameson
Gwen Stacy

I could live with those 4 as chases

[neutralmarkhot]

Unless otherwise noted, these are first-person observations from the NECA Booth at SDCCI. Double dashes (--) means I didn't see that number, so that 'Clix was not on display. Question marks (?) mean I didn't see that number BUT there were possible candidates on display.

#1 HAMMER Agent
#2 --
#3 Researcher
#4 Nurse
#5 Code: Blue Officer
#6 Mugger
#7 Spider-Man
#8 Peter Parker
#9 Venom
#10 --
#11 Prowler
#12 Puma
#13 Will o the Wisp
#14 Iron Man
#15 Molten Man
#16 --

#17 HAMMER Elite Operative*
#18 Carnage*
#19 Chameleon
#20 Firestar
#21 Lt. Marcus Stone
#22 Spider-Man (black suit)
#23 Norman Osborn
#24 Ben Reilly
#25 Anti-Venom
#26 Black Cat
#27 X-23
#28 Warpath
#29 Wolfsbane
#30 Mary Jane Watson
#31 Daken
#32 Vector

#33 Menace
#34 Victor Mancha
#35 J. Jonah Jameson
#36 Vermin
#37 Scorpion
#38 Noh-Varr
#39 Iron Patriot
#40 --
#41 Cardiac
#42 Bullseye
#43 Wolverine
#44 Rocket Racer
#45 Solo
#46 Jackal
#47 Nightcrawler
#48 X-Ray

NOTE: Ironclad is confirmed, but not on display. I'm betting #16, since the other U-Foes occupy the last slots for U, R and SR.

#49 ?
#50 Red Hulk SR
#51 ?
#52 Morlun SR
#53 Red She-Hulk SR
#54 ?
#55 Sandman SR
#56 Mysterio SR
#57 Deadpool SR*
#58 Green Goblin SR
#59 Iron Man/War Machine SR
#60 Vapor SR

NOTE: Doc Octopus is an SR, but the # is obscured by the figure. Groot is an SR, but the figure's number is very difficult to see. Of the three possible open slots, it looked closest to #54.

#61 --
#62 Doppelganger SR
#63 --
#64 Cosmic Spider-Man SR

NOTE: I understand Spider Hulk is one of the two unaccounted-for Chase figures, but I haven't seen it to confirm its number (it's on display at another vendor).

#100 Brick fig (Amazing Fantasy 15)
#101 Spider-Man LE
#102 Night Nurse
#103 --
#104 Daken (costumed as Wolverine)
#105 The Burglar

*Not on display, but number is confirmed elsewhere

Thanks for doing this. I'd rep but I need to spread it.

I don't normally have a hard time getting Rares, but a good chunk of my wants are from that section. Also, that's a lot of Super Rares that I want. Dang.

[CoolJerk]

it's easier to post new info than to edit the original post (on an iPad)

**Groot is #49
**Doc Octopus is #54
**Spider-Hulk is #61

Confirmed with my eyes.

[Clclix]

it's easier to post new info than to edit the original post (on an iPad)

**Groot is #49
**Doc Octopus is #54
**Spider-Hulk is #61

Confirmed with my eyes.

Are they all the rarity colors of SR's?

[jhunt]

it's easier to post new info than to edit the original post (on an iPad)

**Groot is #49
**Doc Octopus is #54
**Spider-Hulk is #61

Confirmed with my eyes.

Another person list Dr. Octopus as #49 not Groot

[bigbro911]

Another person list Dr. Octopus as #49 not Groot

But did they have CoolJerks eyes????

I think NOT!!!!
:p

[CoolJerk]

Another person list Dr. Octopus as #49 not Groot

Nope. Went to Diamond Previews to see Doc Ock, Groot and Spider-
Hulk in their display, and they were at knee-level so I could see the entirety of their dial tops.

[wonderboy8917]

So no one has seen a Scarlet Spider or Ben Reilly Spider-Man sculpt yet?

[TaskmasterX]

Doppleganger better not be a chase. Im absolutely fine withe cosmic spidey and spiderhulk as chases, dont really care about them, but Im sure they are well worth it for gameplay.

[wonderboy8917]

Doppleganger better not be a chase. Im absolutely fine withe cosmic spidey and spiderhulk as chases, dont really care about them, but Im sure they are well worth it for gameplay.

In full agreement. This is the one piece I have been waiting for since Carnage came out back in Ultimates. I am going to get it no matter what, but it still makes me cringe that I may have to drop $80-100 on him. :tired:

[Thingtime4]

There's an Iron Man next to Osborn to his left I believe and Iron Patriot is to his right. He might be the chase or the sr

[wonderboy8917]

There's an Iron Man next to Osborn to his left I believe and Iron Patriot is to his right. He might be the chase or the sr

Iron Man has been confirmed as a common. He has white showing for his rarity.

Edit: here's a pic (http://s78.photobucket.com/albums/j81/wildweasel2819/Web%20of%20Spidey/?action=view&current=100_5075.jpg). top right corner.

[qc_mohawks]

In full agreement. This is the one piece I have been waiting for since Carnage came out back in Ultimates. I am going to get it no matter what, but it still makes me cringe that I may have to drop $80-100 on him. :tired:

ditto.......I wasnt going to be upset about chase figures, BUT doppelganger would be an extremely poor choice on NECAs part......BUT i will wait until release or until confirmed to rant on this......it would almost be insulting though if he is

[wonderboy8917]

What does the sculpt for #003 Researcher look like? Is it the one that looks like Robbie Robertson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbie_Robertson_%28comics%29) (the Daily Bugle's Editor-In-Chief)? If so, that's probably who the missing #103 LE is.

[PlotDeviceLad]

http://gallery.figures.com/showphoto.php?photo=165&title=heroclix&cat=573
^Look at the bottom, middle of the picture for the common Researcher.

So, out of the 70 figures, only 6 aren't completely confirmed: 2 Commons, 1 rare, 1 super-rare, 1 "chase", and 1 LE.

People complain about the chases, but they seem to appear more frequently now with 4 Chases instead of 2 in sets before Brave & the Bold. In fact, between two B&TB bricks, I pulled 2 Chases & 5 Super-rares. Maybe I got lucky by not buying a case but 2 separate bricks instead. Then again, I only started playing since February 2008, and the distribution on Hammer of Thor was out of whack with the "God packs."

[jhunt]

ditto.......I wasnt going to be upset about chase figures, BUT doppelganger would be an extremely poor choice on NECAs part......BUT i will wait until release or until confirmed to rant on this......it would almost be insulting though if he is

it wouldn't bother me if he was a chase.

[wonderboy8917]

http://gallery.figures.com/showphoto.php?photo=165&title=heroclix&cat=573
^Look at the bottom, middle of the picture for the common Researcher.

So, out of the 70 figures, only 6 aren't completely confirmed: 2 Commons, 1 rare, 1 super-rare, 1 "chase", and 1 LE.

People complain about the chases, but they seem to appear more frequently now with 4 Chases instead of 2 in sets before Brave & the Bold. In fact, between two B&TB bricks, I pulled 2 Chases & 5 Super-rares. Maybe I got lucky by not buying a case but 2 separate bricks instead. Then again, I only started playing since February 2008, and the distribution on Hammer of Thor was out of whack with the "God packs."

So doesn't that look like it could be Robbie Robertson? I doubt it's a coincidence the sculpt was put on display right next to J Jonah, Peter, and MJ.

I think the missing LE is Robertson.

[sinistersex]

I'm betting that Doppleganger will be the newest Charge/Flurry SP fig.

I'd like one.

[JNW7]

Definitely see this as a 64 fig set, with Cosmic Spidey, Doppleganger, Spider-hulk and whatever else as the last 4 SR's...kinda like Supes Prime level SR's that'll probably be fetching a bit more money.

[Perplexinator]

Dude, if there is firestar, there has to be iceman!

[sinistersex]

As far as the photos go, can someone show me which one is Victor Mancha and which one is Menace?

[Jarosa]

Menace is on a Glider and hiding near Groot. Manchu was in the far corner behind Anti-Venom.

[Herrbrane]

I think the last LE is a black spidey right in front of brick spidey from the link on the previous page

[Komixfrk75]

I still think those aren't the chases...It makes no sense for them to give those away....

[wonderboy8917]

I think the last LE is a black spidey right in front of brick spidey from the link on the previous page

He's already been identified as #101.

We still don't know who #103 is. (although my guess is still Robbie Robertson).

And btw, I believe the LE Spider-Man to be the Dark Avengers Spider-Man (i.e. Mac Gargan Venom in disguise).

[Herrbrane]

He's already been identified as #101.

We still don't know who #103 is. (although my guess is still Robbie Robertson).

And btw, I believe the LE Spider-Man to be the Dark Avengers Spider-Man (i.e. Mac Gargan Venom in disguise).

My B

filler

[Quebbster]

Two of the 'missing' non-LE figures should be repaints: we have been told there would be 56 unique sculpts in the set (I think), which indicates 8 repaints. That list only has 6: HAMMER, Code:blue, Spider-man, (Anti-)Venom, Iron Man/Patriot, and Peter Parker/Ben Reilly.

[wonderboy8917]

Two of the 'missing' non-LE figures should be repaints: we have been told there would be 56 unique sculpts in the set (I think), which indicates 8 repaints. That list only has 6: HAMMER, Code:blue, Spider-man, (Anti-)Venom, Iron Man/Patriot, and Peter Parker/Ben Reilly.

Good point. I guess Robbie Robertson could be in the main set and not an LE. That's one.

The other could be a Scarlet Spider sculpt and a repainted Ben Reilly Spider-Man costume sculpt.

[LordSpawn]

no domino? very disappointed if your gonan do xforce you gotta have domino especially since there hasnt been one in awhile.

[LordSpawn]

spider-hulk isnt a chase

[MyLast1up]

I was hoping Madame Web was going to be in this set. Hopefully she is.

[nomadic 1]

I was just looking at the Outlaws appearance in Excalibur 36, and I think the Researcher repaint will be Hobie Brown aka the Prowler.

[gawain]

I still think those aren't the chases...It makes no sense for them to give those away....

I'm thinking more and more that this is going to be a 16 SR set, and that the chases have not been revealed. Assuming super rares still supposedly average 1 per 3 boosters, this could be an expensive set to collect...:(

[Surfer13]

Iron Man has been confirmed as a common. He has white showing for his rarity.

Edit: here's a pic (http://s78.photobucket.com/albums/j81/wildweasel2819/Web%20of%20Spidey/?action=view&current=100_5075.jpg). top right corner.

In this same picture, Morlun and Captain Universe appear to have the same color for rarity tabs.
I realize that light and angles come into play, and that is apparent if you compare either to Iron Man & War Machine, but these two are close and appear to be the same.

I am in the '64 figure base set' group, and believe that any chases that may be in the set have yet to be revealed.

I also believe that when they are, there will be crying and complaining as people will post that it was a terrible idea to make that particular character as a chase figure and how it would have been so much better to take some character that someone else wanted and turn it into a chase figure.

There is one problem with this idea, though it is hardly damning evidence... The U-Foes. Presumably Ironclad will be #16 (50% chance according to these numbers), Vector is 32, X-Ray is 48, and Vapor is 60. All of them occupy the highest number in their rarity slots for a standard 60 figure set, meaning that anything beyond Vapor would be a different rarity for this pattern to hold.

I am wondering if this set wasn't on the drawing board of old Wizkids (though not in production) and new Wizkids decided to increase set sizes to 64 as the normal going forward, so they just added four more characters (possibly what the old Wizkids scheduled as chase figures) to the set and then made their own chase figures on top of that.
That would sort of make sense of the numbering in the case of the U-Foes.

Anyway, Gen-Con will shed a whole lot of light on this mystery.

[Terman8er]

Doppleganger a Chase is complete Bull****!!! Why don't they make the stupid dark reign #### characters chases?!?!? Oh man...Whoever pulls it and needs a Thor Frog of Thunder Chase...lemme know!

Oooooooo....I will keep this in mind.

[Vine]

Good point. I guess Robbie Robertson could be in the main set and not an LE. That's one.

The other could be a Scarlet Spider sculpt and a repainted Ben Reilly Spider-Man costume sculpt.

One good thing to note about this is that Ben Reilly is an AE figure, is he not, and his point value doesn't line up with the AE option on any of the Spider-Men we've seen so far? So he has to have another figure in the set to turn into.

[qc_mohawks]

seriously, how hard would it be for somebody from NECA to either confim or deny how many SRs are in WoS

as much as we are talking about it, you would think they would at least answer that question


customer service at its worst

[Terman8er]

seriously, how hard would it be for somebody from NECA to either confim or deny how many SRs are in WoS

as much as we are talking about it, you would think they would at least answer that question


customer service at its worst

Not to nit-pick, and I know I come off that way too at times, but...is your glass ever half-full? :)

[Komixfrk75]

seriously, how hard would it be for somebody from NECA to either confim or deny how many SRs are in WoS

as much as we are talking about it, you would think they would at least answer that question


customer service at its worst




LOL...Customer Service seriously....This has nothing to do with customer service

[WhoaDirty]

seriously, how hard would it be for somebody from NECA to either confim or deny how many SRs are in WoS

as much as we are talking about it, you would think they would at least answer that question


customer service at its worst

Someone at the WK booth apparently confirmed the Chase figs were not being shown at SDCC. This thread:

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=283215

[qc_mohawks]

LOL...Customer Service seriously....This has nothing to do with customer service

sure it does......all this buzz and noone from NECA can comment on at least a few of the questions we have here

when you consider the realms basically SAVED heroclix and allowed the people at NECA to make a living.....yeah, you could say a lil communication isnt out of the question

poor customer service.......yeah, this qualifies

[Komixfrk75]

sure it does......all this buzz and noone from NECA can comment on at least a few of the questions we have here

when you consider the realms basically SAVED heroclix and allowed the people at NECA to make a living.....yeah, you could say a lil communication isnt out of the question

poor customer service.......yeah, this qualifies



You were dropped alot as a baby weren't u......:cheeky:

[absolutvt69]

sure it does......all this buzz and noone from NECA can comment on at least a few of the questions we have here

when you consider the realms basically SAVED heroclix and allowed the people at NECA to make a living.....yeah, you could say a lil communication isnt out of the question

poor customer service.......yeah, this qualifies

I remember all the campaigning you did to save HeroClix... no wait, you were the one nailing the coffin shut and pimping other games. Here's a wild and crazy thought. Someone from NECA/WK probably doesn't live on these boards. It's a weekend and regardless of what you feel they owe you these people do have lives. We'll get the answers soon enough. But I do find it amusing that someone who always seems so down on the game suddenly thinks he's owed something.

[Xuco]

Well they won't tell us because that's how hyping works. It's not really a question of customer service. It's a question of getting people talking. By the looks of it, seems to be working ;)

[cattmoe]

Doc Ock, Mysterio, and Sandman are all SR's?! :angry:

Along with Green goblin, that pretty much means all the main Spidey villains in the set (except Chameleon) are SR's. That's.... annoying. :mad:

[qc_mohawks]

Doc Ock, Mysterio, and Sandman are all SR's?! :angry:

Along with Green goblin, that pretty much means all the main Spidey villains in the set (except Chameleon) are SR's. That's.... annoying. :mad:

agreed......oh wait, doppelganger is a chase?!??!!!??!!?

[WhoaDirty]

agreed......oh wait, doppelganger is a chase?!??!!!??!!?

Think positive thoughts qc ... imagine WK has a 64 fig set for WoS, that way he's only a SR.

[Iron Man 49]

Im laughing at the insane level of whining on nonconfirmed guesses.

[lancelot]

I'm guessing that #40 is the Venom repaint of the Anti-Venom sculpt as that has been sighted but not listed in this "set list." The common Venom is the AE Venom of Eddie Brock, I'd think so...

[d_knight7]

OMG! They made WXYZ the Chases? YOU SUCK WK's! I AM DONE WITH THIS GAME!

They should have made ABCD the Chases instead, I personally don't like those characters.

All you had to do for this set to ROCK was adhere to my own inner perception of a perfect rarity scheme, but no, you had to mess it up.

Yet again you disappoint, where are you hiding Ziran? Pistols at dawn!

[refrusdraob]

OMG! They made WXYZ the Chases? YOU SUCK WK's! I AM DONE WITH THIS GAME!

They should have made ABCD the Chases instead, I personally don't like those characters.

All you had to do for this set to ROCK was adhere to my own inner perception of a perfect rarity scheme, but no, you had to mess it up.

Yet again you disappoint, where are you hiding Ziran? Pistols at dawn!

http://hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4872591#post4872591


#61-#64 aren't chases

[ShadowMark]

http://hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4872591#post4872591


#61-#64 aren't chases

So many to quote, so little time. Someone has come out and said that they are not revealing the chases at this time. It does not mean that they are not on display. I will state again for those who may have missed my previous statement:

It is not hard to change the tab of the master copies, or for that matter, not do a bronze tab for non-LE figures.

I do not know if they are chase figures or not, and neither do the rest of you. It is all hear-say at this point. They are #61-64, traditionally that means that they would fall into the chase category, as they are not in the core `1-60 number scheme. But, their tab is gold colored like the SR tabs are, this may mean that they are SR and not chase. We are all speculating what is what.

Do some of you really want 16 SR's if that means Doppleganger, Cosmic Spidey, and Spider Hulk are not chase? They will be almost as hard to get just for the fact that there are 16 SR's in the set, which, btw, has never been done before.

I am more than fine with the set so far and hope that these are chase and not 4 extra SR's that I will have to get on top of the chase figures.

[vlad3theimpaler]

Thanks for the info. The news that the Doppelganger is a chase figure makes me a little sad, though. Still a pretty cool set.
EDIT: Apparently #s 61-64 might NOT be chase figures. Interesting.

[VGA d1sc1pL3]

CoolJerk,

Thanks for the list! I'll have to update my list tomorrow and see how accurate I really was.

[Bat-Dude]

Someone at the WK booth apparently confirmed the Chase figs were not being shown at SDCC. This thread:

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=283215

I don't take that as confirmation that #61-64 are not chase figures...but it casts enough doubt on the whole thing that I'll quit worrying about it 'till it's confirmed.

[rpweld03]

Two of the 'missing' non-LE figures should be repaints: we have been told there would be 56 unique sculpts in the set (I think), which indicates 8 repaints. That list only has 6: HAMMER, Code:blue, Spider-man, (Anti-)Venom, Iron Man/Patriot, and Peter Parker/Ben Reilly.

Well, unless the "Daken as Wolverine" LE figure is the only brown costume Wolverine we're going to get (lord, I hope not), we're still do for a Logan in those colors...

I mean, yeah, the black and gray suit is cute, but I thought we were pretty sure that we'd get Wolverine and the brown and orange duds as well. Did they pull a switch on us and just make that the Daken LE?

[Thrumble Funk]

Still holding out hope for Skaar!

Oh, and it kinda sucks that Doppelganger is a chase.

[Bat-Dude]

I mean, yeah, the black and gray suit is cute, but I thought we were pretty sure that we'd get Wolverine and the brown and orange duds as well. Did they pull a switch on us and just make that the Daken LE?

I think Blue/Yellow Wolverine is pictured on the top of the boosters.

[songwriterz]

Im laughing at the insane level of whining on nonconfirmed guesses.

Well, I'm not trying to add to the geez and whine event here, but if Doppleganger, Cosmic Spidey, and Spider-Hulk are NOT Chases, then this is easily the best Heroclix set ever.

If they are Chases, then my opinion of this set downgrades seriously.

[d_knight7]

If we're just going personal preference, I'd vaguely like a Captain Universe Spidey, and could not care less about the other 2 suspected Chases. So I'm golden :)

I wish some of the SR's weren't SR's, but at least a bunch of them are remakes.

[sol]

Well, I'm not trying to add to the geez and whine event here, but if Doppleganger, Cosmic Spidey, and Spider-Hulk are NOT Chases, then this is easily the best Heroclix set ever.

Nope. Still Crisis.

[rpweld03]

Nope. Still Crisis.

I have to agree with that. Web of Spider-Man looks really good, and I'm excited by many of the pieces, but Crisis was just insane. From bottom to top, there were fantastic pieces. Oh, there were some losers, as well, but Crisis was THE set for crazy-good pieces like Kid Flash, Superman, Chief, Superman, Klarion, Rip Hunter, Sinestro, Spectre, Trigon, and more. And that's not to mention the two colossal figures and the most popular brick figure ever.

So, yeah, excited by Web, looking forward to a lot of the pieces, but I don't think it's going to be as nuts as Crisis. It looks to me like Web will be a bit more... balanced, let's say.

[Thrumble Funk]

And that's not to mention the two colossal figures and the most popular brick figure ever.

I think we can attribute the "popularity" to a terribly-implemented redemption system that allowed scalpers to load up on multiples, more than anything else. :)

Anyhow, I'm a WAY bigger fan of Arkham Asylum than Crisis. Crisis was a solid set, but AA was just a bit better for me.

[sol]

I think we can attribute the "popularity" to a terribly-implemented redemption system that allowed scalpers to load up on multiples, more than anything else. :)

Anyhow, I'm a WAY bigger fan of Arkham Asylum than Crisis. Crisis was a solid set, but AA was just a bit better for me.

Nope. Still Crisis. ;)

[Thrumble Funk]

Nope. Still AA SR Joker. 60 of them. ;)

Fixed! :devious:

[lensnart]

I hope Doppleganger, Spider Hulk and Cosmic Spidey are chases. That is exactly what chases should be, alternate versions of major characters. This is far better than Nekron, or Hypolita or other characters that we don't otherwise have in any form.

This is a character that we already have more than 30 versions of available (including at least three more in this set), I say bravo Wizkids, you listened to the complaints last time and corrected it for this set.

Don't get me wrong I would rather not have chases at all, but if they have to have them, this is exactly the way to do it.

[neoclix]

I hope Doppleganger, Spider Hulk and Cosmic Spidey are chases. That is exactly what chases should be, alternate versions of major characters. This is far better than Nekron, or Hypolita or other characters that we don't otherwise have in any form.

This is a character that we already have more than 30 versions of available (including at least three more in this set), I say bravo Wizkids, you listened to the complaints last time and corrected it for this set.

Don't get me wrong I would rather not have chases at all, but if they have to have them, this is exactly the way to do it.



I second this and rep is coming for it.

[ShadowMark]

I hope Doppleganger, Spider Hulk and Cosmic Spidey are chases. That is exactly what chases should be, alternate versions of major characters. This is far better than Nekron, or Hypolita or other characters that we don't otherwise have in any form.

This is a character that we already have more than 30 versions of available (including at least three more in this set), I say bravo Wizkids, you listened to the complaints last time and corrected it for this set.

Don't get me wrong I would rather not have chases at all, but if they have to have them, this is exactly the way to do it.

I have to third this.

I just don't want to see 16 SR and 2 or 4 chase figures. They announced there will be chase, and that they have not revealed them (does not mean not shown). So, we will get chase figures. Good choices if they are


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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to lensnart again.
Boooo

[Bat-Dude]

I hope Doppleganger, Spider Hulk and Cosmic Spidey are chases. That is exactly what chases should be, alternate versions of major characters. This is far better than Nekron, or Hypolita or other characters that we don't otherwise have in any form.

This is a character that we already have more than 30 versions of available (including at least three more in this set), I say bravo Wizkids, you listened to the complaints last time and corrected it for this set.

Don't get me wrong I would rather not have chases at all, but if they have to have them, this is exactly the way to do it.

I agree on everything but Doppelganger. That's like considering Zoom to be an alternate version of the Flash. It's not like Spider-Hulk or Cosmic Spidey. Doppelganger is his own entity. Not only that, but he is also a major player in the Maximum Carnage storyline. Assuming we eventually get the entire villain cast of Maximum Carnage but 1 is a Chase - you think that'd be OK? I definitely do not.

[sol]

I agree on everything but Doppelganger. That's like considering Zoom to be an alternate version of the Flash. It's not like Spider-Hulk or Cosmic Spidey. Doppelganger is his own entity. Not only that, but he is also a major player in the Maximum Carnage storyline. Assuming we eventually get the entire villain cast of Maximum Carnage but 1 is a Chase - you think that'd be OK? I definitely do not.

Doppelganger is just that...a doppelganger of Spider-Man. He wouldn't exist without the existence of Spider-Man.

[MegaLotusMan]

So by that logic Venom and Carnage could be the chase.

I very much dissagree with Doppleganger being a chase. the other two make sense, even though I'd rather not hve chases at all.

Doppledanger is not spiderman. He is however very similar.

Onething I find extreamly odd about the whole thing though is normally Wizkids has been very guarded about chase figures in the past.
And while we can argue that Hulk and Cosmic showed up becuas eof wierd scheduling mixup... Doppledanger pics were released months ago.

It is what made me decide to love the set. 1 figure did that.

I hold out hope they are changing their distirbution and he's just a super rare.
But since Hulk and cosmic are very much what I would concider a Chase type figure... i am not holding my breath.

[Bat-Dude]

Doppelganger is just that...a doppelganger of Spider-Man. He wouldn't exist without the existence of Spider-Man.

Yes, but he's still his own entity. He and Spider-Man can exist in the same room at the same time. Therefore, he is his own character and does not fall under the same category as Spider-Hulk, Cosmic Spider-Man, or the Amazing Bag-Man.

[The Incredible Mate]

Yes, but he's still his own entity. He and Spider-Man can exist in the same room at the same time. Therefore, he is his own character and does not fall under the same category as Spider-Hulk, Cosmic Spider-Man, or the Amazing Bag-Man.

Sadly, not to disagree with you or this whole argument, but this is a comic book world. If Spider-man can Unmarry mary Jane because the devil hated him being happy then I can have Peter Parker, Spider-man, Black Spider-man, Jigglypuff and Mario all standing in the same room even if the first three are the same person.

Rant done, stupid mephistopholies (Spelling is definately wrong)

[rpweld03]

Sadly, not to disagree with you or this whole argument, but this is a comic book world. If Spider-man can Unmarry mary Jane because the devil hated him being happy then I can have Peter Parker, Spider-man, Black Spider-man, Jigglypuff and Mario all standing in the same room even if the first three are the same person.

Rant done, stupid mephistopholies (Spelling is definately wrong)

Jigglypuff definitely has a dial full of Incap, right?

[CowboyBebop]

I would rather the chase figures had been J. Jonah, MJ, Aunt May, and Robbie Robertson. Why are they making 3-D pogs now?

[refrusdraob]

I would rather the chase figures had been J. Jonah, MJ, Aunt May, and Robbie Robertson. Why are they making 3-D pogs now?

prolly cuz its a collectible Figures game

just saying but heros have to be able to save someone right?

[Lord Logan]

Really, really sorely disappointed if it is true that Cosmic Spider-Man is a chase. He is easily one of my biggest wants from this set and an SR would be easier for me to acquire, but I have no luck pulling chases.

4 cases over the past couple years and not a single chase... I'm due, right?

I'm pissed wheather Doppleganger is a chase or Super rare. ITS RIDICULOUS!!! He should only be like uncommon or rare at most!!!!

[MegaLotusMan]

prolly cuz its a collectible Figures game

just saying but heros have to be able to save someone right?

I hear what you're saying, and I dont disagree, but I thought I'd point out that
A) Why would anyone want to allocate point son their force to characters who require saving?

If anything you could put a Mary Jane figure on an event dial. Then go save her before the nasty goblin throws her off a bridge too.

and B)I dont mind the characters really, I was just caught off guard when they showed like 60 new characters and like 10 of them looked like... just some guy in street cloths. Past that, compleatly undynamic.

But the rest of the set is so cool, im not even too worried about that. And it will be good to get them out of the way.

[vlad3theimpaler]

prolly cuz its a collectible Figures game

just saying but heros have to be able to save someone right?

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, but I could have sworn that we were told new bystanders would be made. Especially because bystanders are the only cardboard allowed in restricted games, I would have preferred to see some of these figures as bystanders. Without cheap cardboard to round out the point totals, it's going to be harder to get team builds close to 300, 400, etc.

[bullseye100]

Thanks, and rep to you!!!

[refrusdraob]

I hear what you're saying, and I dont disagree, but I thought I'd point out that
A) Why would anyone want to allocate point son their force to characters who require saving?

If anything you could put a Mary Jane figure on an event dial. Then go save her before the nasty goblin throws her off a bridge too.

and B)I dont mind the characters really, I was just caught off guard when they showed like 60 new characters and like 10 of them looked like... just some guy in street cloths. Past that, compleatly undynamic.

But the rest of the set is so cool, im not even too worried about that. And it will be good to get them out of the way.

i think the whole idea of it was... going back to the original hint back when HoT came out that this set would be "street" themed, but ya i understand, but i would def much rather have generic characters like MJ and JJJ then 15 generic soldiers/ pawns like BatB was,

and Jonah has a pretty good trait for being a bystander character, no Spider-man TA in LoF, no limit on how many spider-manTAs are cancelled

[squirecam]

I would rather the chase figures had been J. Jonah, MJ, Aunt May, and Robbie Robertson. Why are they making 3-D pogs now?

JJJ is not a 3D pog.

He's a "silver bullet" character. :cool:

[CoolJerk]

Main post updated, thanks to spies from GenCon.

[charlesx]

So has anyone asked the WK staff at the booth about the chases? Or are they not talking about this? Do we have confirmation that the final four ARE chases?

[refrusdraob]

So has anyone asked the WK staff at the booth about the chases? Or are they not talking about this? Do we have confirmation that the final four ARE SRs?

fixed that question for you, but really either way the question still works

[comical]

Do some of you really want 16 SR's if that means Doppleganger, Cosmic Spidey, and Spider Hulk are not chase? They will be almost as hard to get just for the fact that there are 16 SR's in the set, which, btw, has never been done before.


Pros and Cons.
If those 4 are chases, then they will be hard to get.
If there are 16 SRs, then all 16 SRs will be harder to get, so Groot, Red Hulk, etc ALL become more expensive.

Put in math terms: Excluding chase figures and assuming 1/3 booster SR collation as always:
a 16 figure SR set requires 33% more boosters to open in order to get 16 SRs. The odds of duplicate SRs before completion also gets much higher.

Pros: As people open more packs to get SRs, they'll have more duplicate CURs to give to needy kids, plus they're mostly Spidey related, so kids will love them, which will bring more people into the game.

Either way
The glass is 70% full, and we're not done pouring!!!!!
:)

[comical]

i think the whole idea of it was... going back to the original hint back when HoT came out that this set would be "street" themed, but ya i understand, but i would def much rather have generic characters like MJ and JJJ then 15 generic soldiers/ pawns like BatB was,


I like having MJ and JJ as rares/uncommons. They aren't generics, which are much better in the common slots. 15 is too many, though. Agreed.

[charlesx]

fixed that question for you, but really either way the question still works

Yup, works for me, too. You'd think that someone would have asked the question by now.

[refrusdraob]

Yup, works for me, too. You'd think that someone would have asked the question by now.

they are too busy drooling over the preview displays and groping miss Mary Jane to ask

[automaticsan]

So has anyone asked the WK staff at the booth about the chases? Or are they not talking about this? Do we have confirmation that the final four ARE chases?

I pre-ordered the set when it was 1-60 and now that we are seeing the 4 extra figs, I asked my seller about this. He said 61-64 will be super-rares, not chases. BUT, they will be allocated like chase figures. So, this means they will be just as hard to acquire as chases from past sets, even though they are labeled super-rares...

[refrusdraob]

I pre-ordered the set when it was 1-60 and now that we are seeing the 4 extra figs, I asked my seller about this. He said 61-64 will be super-rares, not chases. BUT, they will be allocated like chase figures. So, this means they will be just as hard to acquire as chases from past sets, even though they are labeled super-rares...

he's ripping you off


61-64 are no rarer than any other superrare and were put in the packs as super rares

got my info from Ziran

You are correct - We changed our minds during development and pushed the "chase figures" into the SR slots. Each of the 16 SRs should be equally distributed throughout the print run.

As you pointed out - we couldn't catch (or we missed) the cards and they are still marked with tell-tale bronze chase markings but I assure you the figures are injected and inserted as SRs.

There is one small variant that was imposed on us by the licensor. Last year's world champ, Ben, designed the piece Nightcrawler. The plaque on the back of the brick wall was submitted as "2008 HeroClix World Champion Benjamin Cheung" - Marvel asked us to remove and replace with Xavier Institute of Higher Learning (or something close). We lobbied the Marvel licensing department hard and they graciously allowed us to use our original plaque copy on 1 out of 10 of the Nightcrawler figures. Everything else is the same, just the plaque.

It's not what we originally envisioned, but it certainly allowed us to pay a fitting tribute to Ben, the '08 HC World Champ.


So the secret is out - there is no Chase in WoS. I expect the next question is "what does this mean for future sets?" The answer is - it depends. There is no "rule" we use for collation. We'll make the decisions on a set by set basis. Will some of you hate our choices? Of course. Will some of you love our choices? Of course. I am sure it will just depend.

Live from GenCon '10,

-Justin