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can a piece use hss with BCF and Flurry?
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07/30/2010, 17:33
can a piece use hss with BCF and Flurry?
No.
HSS requires a power action that allows a close combat or ranged combat attack. Furry requires a close combat action to activate and BCF activates when a close combat action is given. With HSS, no close combat action is given, only a close combat or ranged combat attack.
From the Blackest Night PAC:
HYPERSONIC SPEED Give this character a power action. It automatically breaks away and can move through squares adjacent to opposing characters. During its move, this character can as a free action make one close combat or ranged combat attack with its range value halved for the attack. This character must be in a square where it could legally end its move in order to make the attack.
And a character cannot be given more than one non-free action.
No.
HSS requires a power action that allows a close combat or ranged combat attack. Furry requires a close combat action to activate and BCF activates when a close combat action is given. With HSS, no close combat action is given, only a close combat or ranged combat attack.
From the Blackest Night PAC:
And a character cannot be given more than one non-free action.
so why can ZOOM use hss with flurry, flurry is a close combat action.
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07/30/2010, 17:39
so why can ZOOM use hss with flurry, flurry is a close combat action.
Zoom specifically makes an exception so that he can use Flurry.
From the Player's Guide:
I'LLMAAAAKEYOUBETTTTTERRR: Zoom can use Hypersonic Speed. He can use it normally, or instead of making a close combat attack he can use Flurry; Zoom can continue to use the rest of his movement (if any) after using Flurry, but he can’t move between making attacks using Flurry.
nivlac713
07/30/2010, 17:39
Zoom has a Special power that ignores the normal rules of the game. He is the only one that can do it because of this special power.
EDIT: Sigh... why do I try... :> You guys do it better anyway so I guess its cool.
normalview
07/30/2010, 17:48
And for the record, when Zoom uses Flurry, he isn't being given a close combat action. He is being given a free action (says so right in the special power description).
So no BCF for Zoom while using Flurry if he were to be able to use BCF somehow (like via Mikron's SP).
Zoom has a Special power that ignores the normal rules of the game. He is the only one that can do it because of this special power.
EDIT: Sigh... why do I try... :> You guys do it better anyway so I guess its cool.
Nope
Black Adam's HSS SP that allows him to use Close Combat Expert or Exploit Weakness
nivlac713
07/30/2010, 18:32
Yeah.... but not Flurry. Another SP that ignores normal rules.
thanoson
07/31/2010, 00:41
Umm.... isn't that what makes them special ? :)
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