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tkwink
08/07/2010, 21:55
So we've got all the U-Foes now that X-ray has made it up on the Units page. Some thoughts...

1. Vapor is the most expensive and has the most clix? She's a great tie-up piece and will be tricky to take down, but I would have sacrificed one click on her and given it to Ironclad.

2. X-ray is nasty - 9 AV and 17 DV throughout, and can't take more than one click of damage in close combat, AND he's a sharpshooter with Pulse Wave on the first click. 12 move with Phase/Teleport, put him in the middle of your opponent's team and explode. But why is he a Rookie when his teammates are Experienced? I guess that is because he is young, since he's had his powers as long as the others have.

3. Thank goodness all his teammates have flight or TK so poor Ironclad can get into the action.

4. Vector's SP is going to be tough too - automatic TK with a click of damage. He land your opponent's piece giftwrapped for Ironclad to pound.

They add up to 288 points (thank you to the designers who seem to have lost their perverse habit of making teams add up to a few points more than the nearest 100 point build total). We'll see what the Feats might be in this set, but I think at the moment you gotta go Protected on Ironclad, esp. as he can easily go down with one punch from several current super-strong figures, and then Alias on X-ray. If you are trying to blow up a mini-nuclear bomb in the middle of your opponent's force, any chance to have him duck a hit is more than worth it.

This is a very interesting team, maybe more interesting than they are in the comics. Can't wait to get them out on the floor. Thoughts?

W.I.T
08/07/2010, 22:00
I'd have liked them to be 388 points, with an ATA that costs 3 each, so they could go toe to toe with the FF. However, I'm just glad they were finally made. I can't wait to get my butt handed to me for playing them :p

Troma99
08/07/2010, 22:05
I'd have liked them to be 388 points, with an ATA that costs 3 each, so they could go toe to toe with the FF. However, I'm just glad they were finally made. I can't wait to get my butt handed to me for playing them :p

yeah but aren't they supposed to be the Sub Par FF? I mean that wasn't their original intention but that's kind of what they are.

spider_ham
08/07/2010, 22:12
I'd add Contigency Plan to Vector to boost the U-Foes' attack values, or Life Model Decoy to X-Ray to give him some protection from ranged attacks and Poison.

A 400-point U-Foes + Power Pack team-up (Energizer, Gee, Mass Master) against a F4 team would be interesting. At 393 points, you have 7 points left over for a cheap feat and/or an Alicia Masters bystander token to KO to heal the 'Pack.

thanoson
08/07/2010, 22:29
I'm very disappointed that Ironclad is weaker than the fricking Molten Man. Ironclad should wipe the floor with him. But, just glad they made them I guess.

zero_cochrane
08/08/2010, 01:49
They add up to 288 points I'm expecting a 3-point ATA.

commandercool
08/08/2010, 01:54
I'm expecting a 3-point ATA.

That's what I was gonna say, but I can't imagine what it would do.

zero_cochrane
08/08/2010, 02:16
Other 3-point ATAs:
Justice League International
Runaways
The Society

4-point ATAs:
Alpha Flight
Amazon
So a situational bonus to attack rolls is a possibility, but probably not a constant bonus or a bonus to any combat value; minor damage shifting; or a chance to avoid a negative effect.

commandercool
08/08/2010, 02:29
If the design was up to me, I'd make it an inverse Fantastic Four team ability:

U-Foes

Prerequisite: The U-Foes keyword.

All characters on your force with the U-Foes keyword are assigned this feat and have the following team ability in addition to any other team ability:

When a character possessing this team ability is defeated, each opposing character is dealt one point of penetrating damage.

Cost: 3 points per character on your force with the U-Foes keyword.

tkwink
08/09/2010, 08:41
If the design was up to me, I'd make it an inverse Fantastic Four team ability:

U-Foes

Prerequisite: The U-Foes keyword.

All characters on your force with the U-Foes keyword are assigned this feat and have the following team ability in addition to any other team ability:

When a character possessing this team ability is defeated, each opposing character is dealt one point of penetrating damage.

Cost: 3 points per character on your force with the U-Foes keyword.

I like that - makes sense too, with all the poison gas and radiation floating around that team. But for only 3 points, maybe that's a bit too powerful. How about on a roll of 6 or something like that? Or any opponent's figure adjacent to a figure with the U-Foes ATA?