Superman

[Eaglezrulle]

This superman is a different take then all of the supermen we have seen in the past. when i think of superman i dont think of him the way we play him. running into battle to smash someone with it then immediately running away to hide from future attacks. Superman will enter a battle and hold back only using his powers to full extent with very few foes such as doomsday, darksied, and brainiac. many other villains will never experience him using such raw kryptonian power. anyway here he is

Superman Super-Rare
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Team: Superman Ally
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:m-wing: Fearless Assault Superman can use Charge. Do not halve his speed value when he uses Charge. Superman may not pick up characters when using Charge.
:star: Superman can use Impervious. on a result of 1-4 Damage dealt to superman is reduced by 3

[Quebbster]

What would he cost?

[Slade Wilson]

He would be a 285-310 fig as it stands, he should not have a trait that is can not be countered for a damage reducer.

With that built in trait he would cost a lot, I would recommend giving him a special power that has that trait in chice place like clix 1,4 and 5 then give him invulnerable on the other clix and maybe 1-2 clix of toughness.

Its a great idea for a trait though.

[BudLink]

I like this superman but it still seems like many other Super-Man his 5 damage means he is hiting the small guys as hard as the big guys. If you want him to show restraint you might want to add a trait such as
:star: When Superman attacks an opposing character under 200 points reduce his damage by 1. When Superman attacks an opposing character under 100 points reduce his damage by two.

Also Impervious on every clix is very expensive and a little insane. I don't mind the trait perhaps just add a way to outwit it.

[imaleximsweet]

superman should be outwitable, that includes his defenses.

[Eaglezrulle]

thanks for the good ideas

[NeoShazam]

I'd start his defense off lower, and then start building. He usually shows restraint early and then starts heating up as his opponent demands.

[Terman8er]

I like this superman but it still seems like many other Super-Man his 5 damage means he is hiting the small guys as hard as the big guys. If you want him to show restraint you might want to add a trait such as
:star: When Superman attacks an opposing character under 200 points reduce his damage by 1. When Superman attacks an opposing character under 100 points reduce his damage by two.

Also Impervious on every clix is very expensive and a little insane. I don't mind the trait perhaps just add a way to outwit it.

This drives me nuts. Superman is always knocking out the "small guys". You know...what happens to HeroClix figures when they turn their dials to show "KO".

Everyone, in HeroClix, is showing restraint. Superman, to name only one, one-shots people in the comics all the time. He shouldn't have any kind of damage reducing limitation of any kind. Sheesh!

superman should be outwitable, that includes his defenses.

Why? Being "Exploited" doesn't work for you? How about some "Penetrating" shots? Just because there is one specific type of radiation out there that harms him doesn't make him any more Outwittable than anyone else. Speaking of his defenses that is.

[imaleximsweet]

Why? Being "Exploited" doesn't work for you? How about some "Penetrating" shots? Just because there is one specific type of radiation out there that harms him doesn't make him any more Outwittable than anyone else. Speaking of his defenses that is.

So your telling me, that a business suit luthor, mr fantastic et ad nasuea wouldn't be able to pull out the kryptonite?!

They are not combat specialist a la Karnak or whomever.

He is more outwittable than say Thor, and yet Thor has his invuln right there on the dial? What is thor's weakness? (if the first thought was "uhmmmmmmmmm" my point is proven)

There is no reason someone who's weakness is so common knowledge among villains shouldn't have his defense be outwit able.

Kryptonite tipped claws and bullets are for combatants, outwit is for the strategists, when super mans biggest foe is the latter, you can't take that from him

[Terman8er]

So your telling me, that a business suit luthor, mr fantastic et ad nasuea wouldn't be able to pull out the kryptonite?!

Luthor? Yes. Kinda his schtick. Reed? Don't see how he could possibly discover an element that doesn't exist in his universe.

They are not combat specialist a la Karnak or whomever.

He is more outwittable than say Thor,

This I whole-heartidly disagree with. Superman, aside from Kryptonite, is considered "invulnerable". Thor has taken much less to "defeat". Be it gas from Mongoose or a cool bullet made from an element mined on Earth.

and yet Thor has his invuln right there on the dial? What is thor's weakness? (if the first thought was "uhmmmmmmmmm" my point is proven)

He doesn't have a specific "weakness" because it takes much less to KO him let alone hurt him. Yet there is a Thor figure with unoutwittable Invulnerability.

There is no reason someone who's weakness is so common knowledge among villains shouldn't have his defense be outwit able.

I think you are confusing reader knowledge with in-comic knowledge.

Kryptonite tipped claws and bullets are for combatants, outwit is for the strategists, when super mans biggest foe is the latter, you can't take that from him

That is what Special Powers are for. Things like what Kryptonite Man has. Luthor, while deserving of Outwit, is also deserving of some kind EW or PB that works only on Superman or only Kryptonians.