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UltraMANOS
02/27/2003, 22:49
My MAin Question is regarding range combat between 2 Big figures. opponent Sentinel, me Sinestro.
I understand that the big figs can attack at range at any figure within their range despite of another figure being in front of the targeted figure.
Here is the scenario
My opponent wants to make a range attack Sinestro with his Sentinel. My Sinestro is within range,but I have 2 batman ally figures right in front of me : so
xxxSxxx
xxxxxxx
xxxxxxx
xxxBBxx
xxxSinx
S=sentinel
BB=Batman ally
Sin=Sinestro
my question is, Can the Sentinel draw a line of fire through my Batman allies sitting on top of hindering activating their Stealth enabled team ability to Shoot My Sinestro?.
The way I see it no lines of fire can be drawn to him from where the Batman allies are sitting since no line of fire can be drawn to them since they are treated as "Blocking" terrain, therefore since they are blocking terrain no lines of fire can be drawn through them.
In any case can an elevated figure target a ground figure,despite of a stealthed figure is in front of the targeted figure?
Moderators please or well seasoned Judges.

UltraMANOS
02/27/2003, 22:56
somebody please answer this question:(

scowlingone
02/27/2003, 22:56
You misunderstand the Batman Ally team ability:

"Batman Ally: Any line of fire drawn to this character that passes through hindering terrain, including the square that this figure occupies, is treated as though it has been drawn through blocking terrain."

The Sentinel is not drawing line of fire to the Batman Allies in your example; it is drawing line of fire to Sinestro. As such, the Batman Ally team ability doesn't enter into the line of fire issue.

The Sintinel can target Sinestro normally.

Tsannik
02/27/2003, 22:57
This is actually a pretty good question...

The Batman Ally figures would only be Stealthed if Line of Fire was being drawn to them.

So in this particular case, since Line of Fire is being drawn from Sinestro to Sentinel, the 2 Batman Ally figures will not provide any 'cover'.

Besides, standard figures do not block Line of Fire to or from a Sinestro/Sentinel.

The only figure that would block Line of Fire would be other Sinestro/Sentinels

KneelB4Zodd
02/27/2003, 23:00
Good questions. With regard to the big figs, it would seem that you're correct: since stealthed figures are treated as blocking terrain, this would be covered under "All other rules for line of fire remain the same". Which is not implicit under the rules, they seem to intend big figs to operate just like elevated figures - and then some, since they can interact with soaring figures as well.

Regarding elevated figures and stealth "blocking terrain", only terrain and figures that are elevated block line of sight from elevated figures.

UltraMANOS
02/27/2003, 23:00
great, thanks .okay how about this if i put up a barrier using another figure to cover Sinestro, could I cover him this way

Tsannik
02/27/2003, 23:06
A Barrier would block Line of Fire between the Sinestro and the Sentinel.

UltraMANOS
02/27/2003, 23:08
Thank you all very much, I truly appreciate you all taking the time to answer my questions

scowlingone
02/27/2003, 23:09
Originally posted by UltraMANOS
great, thanks .okay how about this if i put up a barrier using another figure to cover Sinestro, could I cover him this way

Yes. There are some cases where Sinestro and the Sentinel are considered either elevated or soaring, but this isn't one of them. Blocking terrain on the same level of elevation as a Big Fig and its Big Fig target blocks line of fire.

Liquid Havok
02/28/2003, 02:07
As and adition to the first question what if instead of sinestro and a sentinel what if they were regular figs? Can they still target each other?

scowlingone
02/28/2003, 03:50
No, because other models block line of fire between standard-sized grounded (or hovering) mdels, assuming that all are on the same elevation.