Doves powers

[sluggo]

I've never read a comic with Dove in it but I love using her heroclix. I can't tell what her powers are just from her heroclix - can someone please tell me what her powers are? (lots of detail would be great).

[MidnigherApoll]

I suggest you check out JSA #45. I think you'll like it. ;)
As for Dawn Granger aka Dove II, her powers are a gift, as she is the conduit of th Lord of Order, and her clothes transfomr into the costume of Dove whenever she says "Dove." She has increased strength, dexterity, and speed, and posses "expanded mental capabilities," whatever that means. In addition, she can fly and has an enhanced healing factor. This info was provided by TitansTower.com and my own noggin.

[Soro]

hawk and dove are the embodiments of Chaos and order respectively

Hawk calls out the name hawk and transforms gaining super strength incredible toughness and the ability to leap great hieghts and distances. as an embodiment of chaos he fights recklessly and wildly.


Dove calls out the name dove and transforms gaining great agility and flight as well as some other interesting powers like perfect memory and an ability that was never named but works as follows
(boulder is flying at dove, dove looks at it and can identify every weak point she devises hundreds of evasion strategies, she can determine its path and speed and what direction it will go if influenced by and other forces she then simply picks the best one and evades it.)


Dove is so cool

[weezer_10]

Today in a few boosters I bought, I got a Veteran Dove (veeeery nice for 69 points; CCE, Super Senses), plus a Rookie Dove Base, but with a Steel figure... what in the world?!?

It's a pity; I live in Australia and sending it in for a trade will be very difficult, or just not worth the postage costs and stuff. Rookie Dove is quite hardcore herself; I might just have to settle for switching over the figures from base to base when I play the different versions.

[daedalus25]

Dove is one of my favorite characters both in the DCU and in Heroclix. I usually alternate between Rookie and Experienced Dove, depending on my needs. Experienced is the most enduring of the Doves, starting with toughness and finishing up with super senses and the highest value of defense of all three versions. Rookie is the one I use when I want to take advantage of Leap/Climb, dancing around the other team's figures without needing to breakaway, choosing my target, and laying down the close-combat goodness. ;) And her appearance in last month's JSA definitely made me happy! I just hope she's going to stay this time! (Nothing in comics brought my spirit down more than earlier in JSA when they brought her back just to kill her off again a few panels later.)

[Styrix]

Just keep in mind that Rookie Dove can't fly, as per the faq. Was there a time in Dove's early career that she couldn't fly?

Also, anyone else think it's funny that the E and V Dove (and the LE Human Torch) can still "fly" on their first click before hulking up and officially turning their powers on?

[Soro]

well the first dove was a guy and hawk was his brother and niether flew but when the male died in CRISIS the gaurdians of order gave the power to this woman so that she and Hawk could have a child and create the perfect balance of Chaos and order. it took a while but the new female dove learned she coluld fly rather than just leaping great distances.

Sadly however Hawk and dove were sacrificed to make up for a DC marketing error

in 91 they did a crossover called armageddon 2001 where in the future 1 hero goes mad and creates a faciest dictatorship after realizing his true power and killing all the other heros. this hero becomes the masked dictator called Monarch. a man goes back in time with the power time with the power to see peples futures and tries to determine who will become monarch,

in reality it was supposed to be captain atom but this infi was leaked prior to its revalation so to keep the readers surprised a bull#### story was thrown together where monarch came back in time and killed dove then hawk went crazy and killed monarch and took his armor to become monarch.

and thats how they #### away a perfectly good super duo.

I am unfamiliarr with doves appearances in JSA though I'd like to hear about this.

[sluggo]

That idea about the mix of Chaos and Order sounds interesting - did that ever happen? And if so what powers does that person have?

[Soro]

it did not in fact Happen both hawk and dove agreed that their partnership should only be platonic and did not in fact have a relationship. however when dove was killed by Monarch Hawk was screaming about how he loved her so i guess he really did but hes evil now so...

[trutildeth]

Dove was just recently reincarnated by Dr. Fate in JSA.

[MidnigherApoll]

All right for you who missed it here's the latest ont he Dove:
SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOILER!

A child was born whose role was to become the new Dr. Fate. This character was artificially aged to assume his role, and it turns out he was the reincarnated son of Hawkman and Hawkgirl, previoulsy a member of Infinity Inc. He believed that his wife from his last life, Lyta, also fo Infinity Inc., lay comatose in a hospital bed. After going on a quest to Gemworld, he came back with the ability to wake her from her coma, but it was revealed that it was not Lyta in the hospital bed, but Dove. Dove was the one who gave birth to the current Dr. Fate (I think that's right...). She said that Mordu, a powerful mage, faked her death and framed Hawk, and then she goes refers to Mordu's plan for "our child." It is unclear to me whether she means her child with Mordu or Hawk. Both would make sense, since they all are tied to the whole Order/Chaos struggle which Dr. Fate is also a part of. I think it would be cool if Hakw and Dove's kid was "Hakw"man's kid in a past life.

[Soro]

ooooh now i have to go get these comics can you give me some issue numbers?

[Styrix]

I am sooo confused now. I need to fnd more time to read comics. Maybe I'll quit my job. . . .

[MidnigherApoll]

All right, here are some issue numbers:

JSA # 1-4: The Hunt for Dr. Fate. Not importantif you're only interested in Dove, as she does not appear, but it's the birth of ehr son and his aging and assuming the mantle of Dr. fate appears here. (Avalible in the trade: JSA: Jiustice be Done)

JSA #13-15(?) The JSA goes off in a time traveling trip to fight Extant, formerly Dove's partner, Hawk. I never read this one, so i can't give too much info, but I know an alternate reality Dove makes an appearance. (Avalible in tht trade: JSA: Darkness Falls)

JSA #41-44: The main story in these issues focuses on the JSA in yet another time travel story. However, the sub plot revolves around Dr. fate searching for a way to wake the woman he believes is his wife, but is actually Dove, as is revealed in the shocking last page of #44.

JSA #45-?: Dawn returned for some action in #45, the most recent issue. t's likely she'll play a role in the upcoming Princes Of Darkness story, since one of the villains is Mordu, the man who faked her death and possibly the father of her child, the current Dr. Fate.

For Dove fans, none of these issues are incrdibly important and I pretty much told you all of it, but JSA $$ and especially 45 should be a lot of fun fo Dove fans, as well as the Darkness Falls trade.

[Soro]

thanks a bunch i gotts catch up on my favorite charachters ^_^

[eshuroger]

I had hoped that the unexpected appearance of Hawk & Dove in Heroclix might herald a return in the comics and it looks like Geoff Johns is making it happen.

I felt that Outwit would have been a better representation of her powers than CCE, but I was overall pleased with the Hawk & Dove figures, though they may be a bit more powerful in the game than they were in the comics.

Dove did not fly until around issue 15 of the H&D series, when Hawk & Dove learned more about the nature of their powers and both gained a significant power boost (Vet Hawk could have had a click or two of Impervious, and I wouldn't have complained).

[Grendel]

Only going by their normal versions, rather than their high-magic ones. In high-magic settings, Hawk & Dove are essentially gods in their own right, easily the equal of some of DC's heavy-hitters, like Dr. Fate.

Both exhibited extraordinary ability to resist and heal damage (Impervious/Invulnerability/Regeneration/Toughness) and superhuman athletic ability (high stats).

Dove's powers regularly involved flight (and before that, climbing and acrobatics), uncannily attenuated senses (Supersenses), and most notably her keen ability to manipulate her opponents(Outwit/Perplex/Probability Control), often distracting them just long enough for Hawk to smack them down. Dove was never formally a member of the Titans, but worked alongside the Titans and Titans West once each.

Hawk often charged headlong into combat, sometimes with a suspiciously large object as a weapon (Charge, Superstrength). While frequently beyond reasoning (Battle Fury), he was far from foolish, and exhibited a level of tactical ability in his own right (Outwit?). He was an occasional member of the Titans, and a founding member of Titans West.