View Full Version : Who Would Win In A Three Way Thanos Thor Or Darkseid
ME AND MY FRIENDS HAVE HAD THIS ARGUMENT FOR A WHILE NOW ..... I HAVE DARKSEID MY TWO FRIENDS HAVE THE HAMME OF THOR AND THE PUNCH OF THANOS..........I THINK DARKSEID COULD OUTWIT ONE OF THEM AND ATTACK THE OTHER WHAT DO U THINK? CAN U HELP ME RESOLVE THE ISSUE?
I'll tell you who'd win in a three way...
Me, Kristen Kruek and Jessica Alba...
LOL! I kill me....
But seriously... I'd think Thor would win.
THOR WOULD ONLY DO TWO DAMAGE TO EITHER THANOS OR DARKSEID AND THANOS HAS IMPERVOUS+++DARKSEID HAS PSYHCIC BLAST AND OUTWIT
Spider_Cide
02/27/2003, 23:55
without a taxi, Thanos does alot of pushing; so he loses Invu. quickly.
Darksied, without a lot a flying, pushes quiet often, yet has a wonderful aray of abilities to protect him.
Thor has running shot and a great range of striking to really to some damage.
Tie: Darksied vs. Thor
I DONT KNOW I WILL FIND OUT TOMMORROW OF THAT MATCH TOR VS DARKSEID IN CLOSE COMBAT MO BREAKAWAYS OR RUNNING AWAY PLUS NO ITEMS
Wyldstaar
02/27/2003, 23:59
In a three way battle, someone always gets caught in the middle. Since Darkseid is the only one with Outwit, he'd be the one that got ganged up on. Your plan to use Outwit on one opponent while attacking the other makes no sense whatsoever. Thanos' only power is Invulnerability for most of his dial. Thor has Running Shot and Super Strength, but you can't Outwit them both. The only chance Darkseid has is to consistantly make is dodge rolls for Impervious since his Defense is only 16. If you use Mind Control, you'll hurt yourself due to them being over 100 pts.
dolemite199
02/28/2003, 00:05
In a three way clix battle Thanos could probablly win. If he can stay away from Darksied and center his attention on Thor, Thanos can win.
As an example. If Thor lays on the first hit against Thanos, this will put the Mad Titan on his 10mv, 15at, 17def, 4dmg click. A counter strike will hurt Thor just as much. The only Thing going for Thor is if he can base Darksied, or Thanos while having an object. A six click attack is hard to take, even with impervious (missed roll) invulnerability. In all likely hood though, Thor can win because he is the only one who can move and attack at the same time via RS.
Liquid Havok
02/28/2003, 00:53
Pyschic blast and Impervious will allow Darkseid to win most of the three ways. Only if Darkseid rolls bad will he lose....of course if actual players are controlling them, one will get screwed and the smarter player will then finish of his temp. partner.
shin-goji
02/28/2003, 00:57
A three way between Thanos, Thor and Darkseid. I'd like to see the bed that could hold THAT action...
scowlingone
02/28/2003, 01:06
Thor will only ever get one opportunity at most to use Running Shot; Darkseid will Outwit it thereafter.
Darkseid doesn't need to use his Outwit on either Thor' or Thanos' Invulnerability, and neither of them have any ability to remove Darkseid's Impervious.
Darkseid thus does more damage than either of the other two models because of his Psychic Blast.
One-on-one, Darkseid should be able to take out either of the other two models.
In a three-way, the other two players would be foolish to not team up on Darkseid until he's KO'ed.
Assuming that both of the other models have taken roughly equal damage once Darkseid is gone, Thanos' last lcick of Regeneration and Thor's lack of defensive powers on his last two clicks gives Thanos the edge.
Played with perfect strategy, I think Thanos takes it all in a three-way match.
Jean_genie
02/28/2003, 01:14
Before anything comes out of my mouth, bear in mind that Darksied is almost 40 points cheaper than the other two figures, which will end up making a ton of difference. That said, I think Thor will win handily over the other two in any 1-on-1(barring lots of lucky Impervious rolls), though a 3-way would depend entirely on who got ganged up on.
Darkseid just hasn't got a chance against Thor, unless he made every single Imp. roll, AND Thor crit missed repeatedly. Why? Because not only does Thor have a longer range, but he has Running Shot to keep him at a distance where he can shoot, but Darkseid cannot. And should Darksied Outwit Running Shot and move forward, Thor still gets a free shot and Darkseid while the guy's got a token. Better still, Thor could just base Darkseid himself, and swing with an object for 4 after Impervious, knocking D-man into toughness, and onto his last click of Outwit. Yes, you could pray to the Impervious Gods, but Thor still only needs a 4 to hit, and Darkseid needs a 7. Thor will be hitting for 2 almost every time he swings, and once Darkseid misses a roll, it's lights out.
Thanos will be a different game, but not much. Thor is still pretty much guaranteed the first hit though. As another player said, this puts Thanos on his 4 damage click (note: CLICK, singular). Thanos hits Thor for 2 after Inv. Thor can still shoot back for 2 after Inv, as Thor can do 4 damage for 3 clicks. That should pretty much put Thanos on Toughness, where his damage drops to 2, and he's harmless to Thor. Sure he can Regenerate, but he can only regenerate into a click where he does 2 damage.
However, when playing an actual game, I've always had the most luck with Darkseid. He doesn't fly, and his attack and defense values are lower, but so is his cost. I like Thor the most, but he always attracts Black Panthers and Bullseyes. Darkseid doesn't usually have this problem. Because he has Psychic Blast, he'll always have an Outwit to use defensively, usually to turn off somebody else's Outwit. Plus he's got Mind Control, which is also incredibly useful(and because of Outwit, he can MC Spiral. Yay!) His only real downside is that his low attack and defense numbers pretty much mean that you need to field a medic just for him. Of course, I think you can spare that with the 40 points he saves.
zeppelined
02/28/2003, 01:33
Really though, in a three-way, *everybody* wins.
Teletran
02/28/2003, 03:43
THOR WINS!!!
Why? Because he's the only good guy there and good guys always win. :rolleyes:
Heheh... sorry, just couldn't resist. :p
Jean_genie
02/28/2003, 11:12
Nice answer, Z-Man
anyone can win a 3 way. 3 ways almost always happen like this: either 2 of them gang up on one to kill him then beat each other sensless or 2 beat each other senseless to begin with and then the winner has to face the bystander who is unhurt.
It would all depend on who was the odd man out. Any one of the 3 could win. And in spite of darksied being less expensive he also does not fly which isn't realla a factor here. So he fits with the other 2. He has the dodge chance too so do not count him out.
Mongoose
02/28/2003, 13:31
I'd guess that Darkseid is better overall. He doesn't have either characters range (8). He does have psychic blast, which is an automatic 3 off damage wise, w/o invulnerability/impervious counting. Mind control is an enemy to you in this battle. Either character is gonna give you 1 point of damage if you use mind control. I'd take out Thor first. Thanos tends to do alot less damage then Thor, and he goes down to a 2 damage quicker. Kill Thor first, and then you will have a chance. Outwitting Thanos's invulnerability, once your character no longer has psychic blast, is your best bet. Make sure to get into an area where you can't be pegged off at 10 range (In Thor's case it is actually a 14 range).
justincredible
02/28/2003, 15:12
in a clix battle probably either Thanos or Thor but in a comic battle Darkseid will win due to his superior Omega Beam. Omega Beam is suppose to destroy anything it hits. and it's also target sinking so it never misses. it'll track down the target like a heat sinking missle.
If Darkseid's Omega Beam can easily beat Thor, king of Asgard, if it was in terms of comics, how come he's never been able to beat Superman (who is often compared to Thor, when comparing DC to Marvel)???
JerryReedStyle
02/28/2003, 15:17
....who wins in a three way between Black Manta, Contrictor and Yellow Jacket?
Personally...a three way involving White Queen, Black Cat and Moondragon...
Valandar
02/28/2003, 15:19
Originally posted by W10002
If Darkseid's Omega Beam can easily beat Thor, king of Asgard, if it was in terms of comics, how come he's never been able to beat Superman (who is often compared to Thor, when comparing DC to Marvel)???
He HAS beaten Superman in the comics, before, but circumstances forced him away before he could savor his victory. And he only once ever unleashed his Omega Effect on Superman, but it was reflected back into him.
Jean_genie
03/01/2003, 00:34
Yeah yeah, Darkseid has Impervious. So he has a 33% chance to dodge on his first three clicks. Bear in mind those three clicks of defense are 16 15 and 14, so the other two guys would almost only miss on a snake-eyes. Also bear in mind his attack is 10 to start, so he'd need 7s or 8s to hit anybody. I just can't see him winning on a regular basis. I've played Darkseid an awful lot (he's my favourite of the three in terms of overall effectiveness), and it comes down to the fact that his low defense screams "I need a medic!", and his low attack screams "And make it a Hydra!" I've missed shots at Bullseyes, only to be shot back at at hit by a figure with 1/3 the price. Without the support, that 40 point difference will most definitely start to show.
EVIL CAP
03/01/2003, 03:14
Thanos
Pros-A super heavy front end that only gets better and his stats raise tremendously can push without worry early on Regeneration at the end of his dial
Cons-Falls below 2 damage to quickly the high stats wont really be THAT helpful past a certain point has no other powers to help him out but Invulnerability is forced to walk into anothers range or wait for them
Darkseid
Pros-Massive array of powers multiple ways to bypass other characters powers Imperviousness 33% chance to make even a 15 attack useless
Cons-Lower overall stats so he will have trouble hitting shorter range Is forced to walk into anothers range or wait for them
Thor
Pros-High power that lasts longer than Thanos Running Shot gives him the first shot oppertunity Super Strength as an equalizer
Cons-Stats arent quite as high as Thanos on his killer clicks he leads the battle since he has RS the other character might just sit back and take out whatever is left
Thor controls the fate of the battle.He decides who fights first and who gets to hang back and wait.If he takes on Thanos and can force him down to 2 damage quick enough he can then Dumpster smash or outrange Darkseid and win.If he attacks Darksied first theres a good chance his stats will drop to low to be very effective and then he can concentrate on Thanos.If he isnt lucky then usually he will outlast one then be taken out by the other
I would take darkseid in clix because he could just mind control the other two to kick the #### out of each other.
Good summery EVILCAP,
I am going to have to go wwith thor also, RS is big in this.
Liquid Havok
05/20/2003, 00:03
Darkseid wins in both comic and clix battles. ALL HAIL THE LORD OF APOKALIPS!
My money is with Thor. Running shot is huge. Thanos might as well not be a flyer by his lonesome. Darkseid has some nice powers. But Thor stays 10 or 8 away. If Darkseid rolls a 5 or 6 no biggie he is out of range. Thanos is a beast, and has great numbers, so he comes in at a close second. Since Thanos and Thor have a 10 range, and want to keep their minds intact. They should kill Darkseid from afar. Then when he is toast attack each other. If I had Thor, I would be afraid of Thanos's 3rd click (4 damage and 15 attack). If possible make him push once then attack him with 4 damage. I wouldn't worry about regeneration, it will be very very difficult to use it.
sliverbelt
05/20/2003, 00:22
There's no way Darkseid would win, not only did He get the shaft with the 8 range, but He also doesn't fly.
Thor has this One unless on the off chance He misses Thanos more than Once (not likely).
By the time Darkseid runs up to the rooftop where the other Two had been duking it out, He sees Thor standing over Thanos's unconscious body and hucking Mjolnir directly into His face. When the dust clears, the Norse god carries the bodies of His adversaries and throws them to the floor.
The Werle
05/20/2003, 14:56
These debates are stupid, the game doesn't work like that. Its all luck and dicerolls.
If they had a 3 way, that'd be some rough stuff. I don't like the idea, too kinky.
It looks as if CAPS LOCK was the clear winner in the original post.
~S
chainsawyak
05/20/2003, 15:50
I'd go with Darkseid... Like everybody has said, he wouldn't even need to use his outwit because of psychic blast, so he has that to use on running shot or any other powers they might get (although I think all they get besides R.S. are defensive) But the big kicker I think would be the ranged combat expert he gets at the end of his dial that he'd be able to use against both of them because they are both flying. So at the end, when Thor and Thanos would only be doing around 2 damage (1 to Darkseid because he'd probably have toughness) Darkseid will be doing 4 to either (3 because they would probably have toughness as well...)
Not to mention the 40 points cheaper, which you might be able to just attribute to the lack of flying, but that is actually an advantage in this case.
Darkseid is just a better piece.
Ugliest three way ever :p
Well, comparing the dials of Thor and Thanos I'd have to say that Thor would beat Thanos so long as Thor had first shot and connected. Thor hits for two clicks after Inv., Thanos hits for 2 after Inv. Thor pushes to belt Thanos again before Thanos can take another 2 pt. shot. That leaves Thor on his 4th click. He still had Inv. and now has 3 damage. and this leaves Thanos on his 5th with Inv. and 3 damage. Thanos would pass because if he pushed he'd lose Inv. and 3 damage would go to two and the game would pretty much be over unless he got lucky with a critical hit. Thor passes. Thanos takes a shot for 1 after Inv. which leaves Thor on his last Inv. click. Thor slaps Thanos with for one and Thanos is down to toughness and 2 damage. So long as Thor doesn't push off that click or Thanos doesn't get a Critical hit this fight is over.
Throwing in Darkseid it's all about who teams up with who and who the third character focuses his attacks on. I'd say that like any true super villian, Thanos and Darkseid would team up against Thor. Thor's decision on who to attack is the key to who wins. If he damages Darkseid then it's no contest, if he wails on Thanos atleast twice before he's down to 2 damage then I'd say Darkseid has a pretty good chance at winning.
Jean_genie
05/20/2003, 23:55
I had typed out a great analysis the other night, and it didn't let my post. Dang.
Long story short, Thanos has almost literally no chance in this one. Sure he can Regenerate, but unless he scores about three criticial hits in a row, he'll never be able to hurt the other two at this point, since he can only Regenerate up to 2 damage. At first I figured that Thor would win hands-down, but then I remembered that Outwit doesn't have to be used purely for the sake of the Outwitting character. In other words, if Darkseid could wander into attack range of either figure (sort of "between" them, but not cutting off line of sight to each other") and then Outwit Thor's Invulnerability, that could do it for him. Thanos would most likely take a shot at Thor, bringing Thor's damage down to a 3, and killing Running Shot. If Thanos blows a second attack on Thor (remember that Darkseid has Impervious, Outwit AND Mind Control) then that'd bring the game to Darkseid Vs. Thanos pretty much - and Darkseid's got plenty of ways to get past Invulnerability, assuming he can roll to hurt the (hopfully) damaged Thanos.
So there you have it. Thor in a straight brawl, Darkseid with careful planning. What a surprise, eh? It's too bad they screwed up so badly on Thanos though. He really needs slightly lower attack values (for a lower cost), and the ability to regeneraye into a click or two with three damage.
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