Move and attack question

[Vigilante]

If you have the move and attack ability, the boot speed symbol, and leap/climb can you move through hindering terrain while using move and attack?

[BudPalmer]

Pretty sure you can.

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Actually now that they changed it, I'm not sure.

[beardedtoyman]

If you have the move and attack ability, the boot speed symbol, and leap/climb can you move through hindering terrain while using move and attack?

No, you cannot, because Move and Attack is now a modified version of Hypersonic Speed, so Leap/Climb is not active. You would need to be a flyer to move through hindering during Move and Attack.

[W.I.T]

Pretty sure you can.

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Actually now that they changed it, I'm not sure.

You can't now for sure, and I don't think you could before either. I know for sure that you couldn't use the Transporter Move Attack and use Phasing/Teleport on Lockjaw.

[Xer0Gravity]

I believe on the previous ruleset it depended on the power. Transporter Move and Attack was (I believe) a Move Action, so E Sinister Spider-Man could on his clicks with Leap/Climb pick up someone, jump over a building, and smack a dude in the face all in one swoop.

Now you can't as Leap/Climb is a Move Action, and the current Transporter Move and Attack ability is a Power Action.
(EDIT: and what W.I.T said)

For simplification sake they just called it a modified HSS under the new book. It's easier to explain (which I'm cool with), but like all rule changes, it will change the playability of a figure or two, for better or worse.

[da_turtledude]

No you cant. Unless your a flyer you have to cut your movement in half for transporter move and attack.

[W.I.T]

Just looked it up, you could use Leap/Climb with it before, as both were activated on a Move Action.

Click Here for details (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=211043&highlight=transporter+move+attack)

[W.I.T]

Never mind, misunderstood the response.

[beardedtoyman]

Say what? Huh? you've never had to do anything like that as a Transporter. Ever.

I think he means coming out of hindering - which isn't what the thread is discussing, but is technically correct.

[W.I.T]

I think he means coming out of hindering - which isn't what the thread is discussing, but is technically correct.

Yeah, I got that after I'd pressed submit :p So I changed my answer.

[Questions]

Now you can't as Leap/Climb is a Move Action, and the current Transporter Move and Attack ability is a Power Action.
(EDIT: and what W.I.T said)

And on a technical note, the movement aspect of Leap/Climb activates any time a character is given a move action. So any move action will activate that aspect of Leap/Climb and the move action does not specifically need to be given to activate that aspect of Leap/Climb.

The Move and Attack ability allows the character to use Hypersonic Speed which requires a power action and since no move action is involved, Leap/Climb will not be activated.

[DARKKNIGHT188]

And on a technical note, the movement aspect of Leap/Climb activates any time a character is given a move action. So any move action will activate that aspect of Leap/Climb and the move action does not specifically need to be given to activate that aspect of Leap/Climb.

The Move and Attack ability allows the character to use Hypersonic Speed which requires a power action and since no move action is involved, Leap/Climb will not be activated.

But it wasn't always like this, it was not till recently right? Because I remember spiderman from sinister doing this.

[Questions]

But it wasn't always like this, it was not till recently right? Because I remember spiderman from sinister doing this.

The Move and Attack ability was not always like this. In the past, the Move and Attack ability required a move action (not the power action it requires today) which is why back then it would interact with Leap/Climb.

[Xer0Gravity]

The Move and Attack ability was not always like this. In the past, the Move and Attack ability required a move action (not the power action it requires today) which is why back then it would interact with Leap/Climb.

Oh man, just think if HSS hadn't been changed... HSS used to be a move action, which was crazy go nuts when you think of some of the JLA figures with Hypersonic... I'm looking at you Flash from Hypertime :cheeky:

[The7ofDiamonds]

Yeah, when Move and Attack was changed to no longer be a move action, Uncle Sam and I were very sad. He can still ignore ignore hindering with M&A when he has "As big as my country", but that's not front loaded like his Leap/Climb is, so still kind of depressing.