An Interesting Qeustion....

[Dexceus]

Here is something that came up in a tournament today.

Black Panther uses Outwit to get rid of Mr. Fixit's Toughness. Mr. Fixit then gets hit and looses Toughness and it is replaced with Invulnrability. Mr. Fixit then gets hit and losses Invulnrability and it is again replaced with Toughness.

Is Toughness still outwitted?

[Batman1983]

no outwit is for that click only. thus if you outwit R solomon grundy's toughness he doesn't lose it for the whole game just till the biggining of his next turn or when he takes damage.

[Dexceus]

The thing about the reasoning of it being for only one click, the following would happen:

1.Figure X has his toughness outwitted.

2.He takes damage.

3. He still has Toughness on the click he is damaged to.

4. With this reasoning, he would not still have Toughness outwitted, even though he never lost Toughness.

I would LOVE for a judge to put in their ideas.

BTW, if you are curious, the Judge at the tournament ruled that it was not still outwitted.

[CptBlood]

I would rule that Toughness would be outwitted once again.
As I see it that character could not have Toughness again until the Outwit wore off normally.

CptBlood

[dasDarke]

In your example it wouldn't be still outwitted. The reason is the point that your first attack got him into Inv, and at that moment Toughness was lost, so the outwit ended at that point.

(If the first attack had ended on a toughness click, then the outwit of toughness would be still active.)

das Darke

[Xavier PhD]

anybody got a faq quote for this?

[Funky Jett]

-- EDIT --

Ok, admittedly, I was wrong...

Here is a link to the thread where this came up before: http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5869&perpage=15&pagenumber=2

Xanth posts, "Balduvian, Balodoth etc. are correct. Outwit turns off a power and you can't turn off a power that isn't turned on. Also, you turn off the POWER and not the slot content so if Doc Strange loses an Outwitted Phase and gets it back on the same turn, well then it is still the same power and the power is what was Outwitted so he can't use it until next turn."

So CptBlood is correct. Basically, once it's Outwitted, it's Outwitted. I bow before the superior intellect...