Inquest Green Lantern LE Pic [Archive]

Noman

03/01/2003, 21:02

Another thread on the site sugested that this pic was a fake.

( thread was Sweet Sweet Green Lantern LE Love )

...but, as Draddog has posted it, it must be real !

However :-

Which Green Lantern is this ?

It's not any of the big four (Hal, Alan, Guy or John) , and it's not Kyle, and it looks like a construct, so whats the story ???

All the Best

Noman

Dorkie looking or not, it's got the GL team power of "Carry up to 8 people", so EVERYONE will want one...I wonder what the points cost is ???

metzgarob

03/01/2003, 21:05

Originally posted by aptasinskas
So u have to mail away inorder to get the green lantern or who ever that is in the green klantern corps. ?

yes

metzgarob

03/01/2003, 21:07

Originally posted by Noman
Another thread on the site sugested that this pic was a fake.

...but, as Draddog has posted it, it must be real !

However :-

Which Green Lantern is this ?

It's not any of the big four (Hal, Alan, Guy or the GL from patchwork, and it's not Kyle, and it looks like a construct, so whats the story ???

i would agree that this looks fake but the fine people that run this site (draddog etc.) arent usually wrong in these matters

also i agree in that i have no idea wich GL this is supposed to be

aptasinskas

03/01/2003, 21:08

i agree with you.

zaurial

03/01/2003, 21:18

kool green lantern which magazine is this i need a copy!
p.s. i hope it's kyle, he always was the coolest (besides hal, but it's not hal, i can tell).

Prophet924

03/01/2003, 21:19

Well this kind of looks like ION with the armored boots & the armored guantlets on his arms.

Perhaps Hal as a Green Lantern is not happening since DC lost their minds and made him all evil and #### then made him some agent of God's wrath on injustice and stuff.

*sigh*

Even though I am mostly a Marvel-ite, I was getting all geeked up about the possibility that the Inquest exclusive was Hal Jordan.

Maybe it is. It just doesn't look like it from that pic.

Kind of cool pic though. I will send off my $19 or so for two to come some time in June-July.

Thwipp!

drop19

03/01/2003, 21:21

As I said on the other GL LE thread I'm not trying to call anyone a liar, but the two most recent Diamond Distributor Catalogues didn't have this image anywhere in the Wizard/Inquest section. The official solicitation for Inquest #97 had a drawing of Hal that looked as if it was pulled from a comic, and the solicitation for #98 made no mention of this LE at all.

Can somebody in the know post a page # or some sort of source for where the image came from? Does Diamond's retailer catalogue differ from the standard advertisements in the consumer version of Previews?

hellboy19

03/01/2003, 21:21

At long last!!!! I don't care which GL he is, as long as he has some good super powers to go along with the GL team ability. It would be nice if he wasn't 100 points. Cheap! Make him cheap!! (I know he won't be.) *SIGH*

metzgarob

03/01/2003, 21:22

Originally posted by drop19
As I said on the other GL LE thread I'm not trying to call anyone a liar, but the two most recent Diamond Distributor Catalogues didn't have this image anywhere in the Wizard/Inquest section. The official solicitation for Inquest #97 had a drawing of Hal that looked as if it was pulled from a comic, and the solicitation for #98 made no mention of this LE at all.

Can somebody in the know post a page # or some sort of source for where the image came from? Does Diamond's retailer catalogue differ from the standard advertisements in the consumer version of Previews?

thats all im saying :)

Jason Blood

03/01/2003, 21:25

Originally posted by hellboy19
At long last!!!! I don't care which GL he is, as long as he has some good super powers to go along with the GL team ability. It would be nice if he wasn't 100 points. Cheap! Make him cheap!! (I know he won't be.) *SIGH*

I agree with you i could care less which GL we get

Wyldstaar

03/01/2003, 21:27

I can't help but wonder if the figure will even look like that. The pic has a border all around the figure, as though it had been tampered with digitally. I'm not saying it's a fake mind you. I simply believe that it may have been altered to keep people guessing. We'll all likely find out on Wednsday anyway. That's when the new Inquest is currently scheduled for release.

metzgarob

03/01/2003, 21:30

Originally posted by Wyldstaar
We'll all likely find out on Wednsday anyway. That's when the new Inquest is currently scheduled for release.

yes inquest is coming out wed. but it is the wrong one. the one with GL doesnt arrive untill april
sorry

Noman

03/01/2003, 21:30

I do care which GL we get ! but...

I say again...

"Which Green Lantern is this ?

It's not any of the big four (Hal, Alan, Guy or John) , and it's not Kyle, and it looks like a construct, so whats the story ???

All the Best

Noman"

Dorkie looking or not, it's got the GL team power of "Carry up to 8 people", so EVERYONE will want one...I wonder what the points cost is ???

AtB Noman

Wyldstaar

03/01/2003, 21:37

Originally posted by metzgarob

yes inquest is coming out wed. but it is the wrong one. the one with GL doesnt arrive untill april
sorry

That's not how magazines work. If you check you last issue of Inquest, you'll see that it's the March issue. The month isn't listed to indicate when it's released. The month is listed to indicate to the retailer that after the listed month they may return any unsold magazines.

Evil Narn

03/01/2003, 21:37

Secondly, it's like that Wolvie- berserker promo, or the Supes- Worlds promo. It's probably an Ion fig promo. I'm assuming that with all the hoopla over getting GL figs in the next DC set (which we've been waiting wayyyyy too long for), they're giving you just a taste of the GL's to come. They'll probably have Hal, Kyle, Guy, John and Alan, or some form of them. Hopefully, they'll make the set surrounding the GL them, kinda like Xplosion. I just hope that they make all of the forms of Hal, at least as Uniques or LE's. Also, they probably wanted to make another see-through fig. C'mon Sinestro has one.

drop19

03/01/2003, 21:40

The issue of Inquest that has the Green Lantern LE coupon is #97, and is solicited to be in shops during the month of April. This is not the cover pull date or anything, this is when it is listed to be arriving in shops. The issue being released next week is #96, meaning we won't see the appropriate issue until sometime during the first week or so of April.

metzgarob

03/01/2003, 21:41

Originally posted by Wyldstaar

That's not how magazines work. If you check you last issue of Inquest, you'll see that it's the March issue. The month isn't listed to indicate when it's released. The month is listed to indicate to the retailer that after the listed month they may return any unsold magazines.

im just saying that the issue of inquest that has GL in it will be released in april. i dont know if it says its the april issue may issue or august issue on the cover

the mail away offer in the issue coming out wed is from "wizkids newest clix project" so itll probably be creppy whatevers or shadowrun

metzgarob

03/01/2003, 21:43

u beat me too it but thank you anyways drop19 :)

Billy Jack

03/01/2003, 22:07

hmm i am of two minds here, the first says that am thrilled that there's a new dc clix on the horizon. The fig itself i am not too sure of. It looks a generic green lantern, not's that it's a bad thing, but most of us were expecting hal or kyle. Still I am happy DC clix aren't completely forgotten.

SmilinJack

03/01/2003, 22:21

Hmmm...####py pics, release date in April...Could this be a great big prank?

mercer

03/01/2003, 22:31

Oh, man that's a cool looking clix. So, it's Ion and not Hal or Kyle? I don't care, I have to get it! And if I'm willing to buy an issue of that piece of garbage, Inquest, to get it, you know I'm desperate.....YEAH! DC! Make more DC clix soon, please! And a new Batman clix while you're at it (Bats should be the Wolverine of DC clix...imho). :)

JonL

03/01/2003, 22:36

It's a green, translucent version of the John Steward Green Lantern. He has lots of Phasing.

Why him instead of Hal or Kyle? Because he's on T.V.

Now you know.

Best,

Jon Leitheusser
HeroClix Game Designer
WizKids

P.S.: The ad in Inquest was done before they knew which GL they were getting. They assumed -- it will cause problems, but I think people will like the figure.

Jadehorde

03/01/2003, 22:56

Originally posted by Noman
Another thread on the site sugested that this pic was a fake.

( thread was Sweet Sweet Green Lantern LE Love )

...but, as Draddog has posted it, it must be real !

However :-

Which Green Lantern is this ?

It's not any of the big four (Hal, Alan, Guy or John) , and it's not Kyle, and it looks like a construct, so whats the story ???

All the Best

Noman

Dorkie looking or not, it's got the GL team power of "Carry up to 8 people", so EVERYONE will want one...I wonder what the points cost is ???

I think it might be a construct or something. Ion would be like a 1,00 points minimum...he was crazy powerful...but a contruct could be called GL without tipping the hand on which GL too much...

Vactory

03/01/2003, 22:57

D#$N!!

Prophet924

03/01/2003, 22:58

It is a nice looking figure.

Oh well. Here's hoping for Hal Jordan sometime down the road. I guess I can scratch out the name on the base and replace it will which ever I want. He is basically a big translucent green guy hopefully not a lot of points and can transport a mess of guys around a board. . .

Thwipp!

drop19

03/01/2003, 23:03

Thanks for the info Jon. Word from the top is about as good as it gets for confirmation.

John Stewart has always been my favorite GL (rock the Mosaic) so I'm more than pleased to see him being the first one out of the gate.

Silver Viper

03/01/2003, 23:16

Ok, first off how where would I find this magazine. Second how much is it? Do you just send in a coupon for it or do you have to pay money?

daredevil11

03/01/2003, 23:33

Silver Viper . . . the magazine, most comic and some hobby stories will carry it. It will be, if it follows like the others, 5 bucks a figure, limit of two figures ($10). I've paid with checks before, I think money orders too. You can pay extra to get it shipped fast - 2 dollars extra I think. Those are the guys on ebay who show up as soon as mail in figures start arriving, if you pay regular, you'll wait a week or two longer. I'm cheap, I wait. You'll need the coupon from the magazine. Same offer could be repeated in Wizard magazine a month later.

Cool figure, Hal is my Green Lantern, but John is my kids so they will be ecstatic. He's my second favorite so I'm not disappointed at all. I'm sure we'll get Hal at some point, if not in the next DC, maybe the one after that - he's a big fish, gotta come sooner or laster. If this follows like the other LE mail ins, this may mean that Steward is in the regular set as well - maybe painted instead of translucent. If not, this mod is a modelers dream - get two and paint one. I've got a mod of John Steward already, so I'll probably change mods during battle, Translucent to attack, painted to rest - that should be annoying to the opposition LOL.

azathoth

03/01/2003, 23:57

I'm so hyped! I can barely believe it. I don't care if its even G'nort! Bring on the GLs!

Slovman

03/02/2003, 01:55

Originally posted by JonL
He has lots of Phasing.

Since when do GLs phase?

Why him instead of Hal or Kyle? Because he's on T.V.[/B]

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. And back to the Phasing comment, the Stewart in Justice League NEVER phases. Bubbles and beams, bubbles and beams. So if we're going by TV all of a sudden, we're not being very consistent.

I had no problem with the movie tie-in figs in Marvel sets cause they stayed true to the comics. You aren't releasing a Ben Affleck Daredevil figure in Xplosion or a Colin Ferrel Bullseye. The Elektra in Xplosion is straight off a comic cover.

But releasing Jon Stewart, the GL equivalent of a second-string quarterback, before any of the others is just ridiculous. I was really looking forward to this LE...but now I'm not. Very disappointing.

The_captain

03/02/2003, 02:12

I love the look of the fig, but i am a little dissapointed that they used jon. I like him as a character and all, but hal, alan scott, or kyle, should have got it. I mean would you make an le for captain america, with a figure of john walker (US Agent) because he was once captain america? He is a second string GL. I feel sad and dissapointed at wizkids simply because they chose him because of him being in a popular show. Does money have to control everything in this world! at least 80-90% of heroclix players wanted to see hal, alan scott, or kyle, but did they get it...nope. Another loss for the fanboy, another gain for the almighty dollar.

kevinhochen

03/02/2003, 02:47

Is it just me or does the figure look like Sinestro? Maybe an old version of himself when he was still a green latern? Any thoughts?

Jeckle

03/02/2003, 02:53

You're right!

I think WizKids should produce the game so that only fanboys will buy it! That way no one outside our little group of geeks will buy it and it will go away sooner and be more collectable than ever.

Okay, maybe the sarcasm was a bit thick, but The_Captain, ya gotta realize that just because this is the first Green Lantern doesn't mean he's the only GL that will ever get made. I'd rather see Hal Jordan or Alan Scott, too, but if WK wants to do Stewart first because he's more well-known to the public, well, so what? Let 'em, I think they've proven that they like to give the fans what they want, but they also have to go beyond that. If that means 5-10% of a set aren't the characters we all wanted, then so be it. We still got 85-90% fanboyish characters.

Chicklets for all,

Jeckle

proditor

03/02/2003, 02:59

My only thought after the inital disappointment was that this might mean we'd get Hal and Kyle in Cosmis Justice as REV's. Then I hit the "Wait a sec, they already made a Jon Stewart..." and that's when I realized that he'll probably be who we get as a REV and the LE will be like OWAW Superman.

*Le sigh.*

Well, here's hoping that they do add at least Kyle and Hal to Cosmic Justice and that they don't try to make Parralax or Ion as Uniques. Mostly cuz I don't want a 1000 point team with only one guy on it. ;)

XocgX

03/02/2003, 03:04

It's an orderable LE, why would anyone complain?! If you like it, get it, if not, don't!

XocgX

03/02/2003, 03:05

perhaps phasing would represent him moving around in a bubble, and not needing to break away to do so....kang has phasing, and my interpretation was that was him time traveling.

proditor

03/02/2003, 03:07

Oh, I'm not complaining about the LE per se, in fact I'll probably get as many as the ole order form allows. I'm just pensive that it might mean we miss out on Kyle or Hal in the next booster. And considering how ungodly slow the DC boosters come out, we might be waiting till christmas before we get word of another one.

justincredible

03/02/2003, 03:14

i think the green construct is NOT the actual figure they're giving away. The figure i think is going to be one of the 4 popular Greens ( Hal, Kyle, John, Guy)

the see thru green figure is probably just a decoy. unless there is actually a green lantern member that is a see thru green. i'm not a big DC reader so i have no idea.

The_captain

03/02/2003, 04:40

I understand what your saying jeckle , and we should bring more heroclix drones into the fold, but if they wanted to sell the figure because of its popularity on t.v., why would it be in a clear/green fig, and not his regular character that the non-heroclix player might identify?

Hawksmoor

03/02/2003, 05:59

Originally posted by justincredible
The figure i think is going to be one of the 4 popular Greens ( Hal, Kyle, John, Guy)

Shouldn't that be Alan, Hal, John, and Kilowog? :)

Never have liked Guy, myself, and Kyle had way too much bad writing early on which I've never been able to get past. YMMV, of course.

Veggiehater

03/02/2003, 06:40

Whoever that green thing is, be it Stewart, Rayner, Jordan or whomever I sure hope it looks a LOT better in person. I'm sorry, but that pic is plain ugly. And like a previous poster mentioned, looks digitaly altered.

VH

Noman

03/02/2003, 08:54

It is NOT Hal, Guy, Alan or even John. It is not Kyle. None of them were translucent, even when powering up.

I seriously thought it might be an APRIL FOOL of some sort, (given the poor quality of the pic, and the realy weird sculpt), what with the release date etc, and that the actual fig would be one of the main 4 GL's, or even Kyle (LoL).

However, if the fig is real, WHO is it and can someone cite me the comic(s) in which the character appeared.

I don't buy this iit's someone off a cartoon TV show argument - given the variety of DC Green Lanterns out there, they wouldn't have to go non-source-material, now would they...

Dorkie looking or not, it's got the GL team power of "Carry up to 8 people", so EVERYONE will want one...I wonder what the points cost is ???

All the Best

Noman

JGrim

03/02/2003, 09:48

All I have to say is...

NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

To all at WizKids and DC Comics...

BRING BACK HAL JORDAN AS GREEN LANTERN!!!

capamericafan

03/02/2003, 10:59

i know this sounds stupid, but it looks like the green lantern from the what if stan lee did the dc universe thing

Hellboy

03/02/2003, 12:24

I don't see the confusion. looks like Hal to me. The nice thing about the see-through plastic, it that you can keep one packaged up for your collection, then paint the other one to look like your favorite between the two (Hal or Kyle); leave his ring arm unpainted, dry-brushing along the edges! Its two Figures in one. (Nowadays They're pretty much ripping of Hal's looks let alone demenor to try and puff kyle up, so it shouldn't be very hard to mod him.)

& oh yeah..... YIPPEE! closer and closer!

Hellboy

03/02/2003, 12:34

wow... do you guys have really small monitors or something? Its clearly meant to be Hal, but even if I'm mistaken It could only be kyle. It doesn't look like anyone else, least of all John Stewrat. Wrong costome, wrong pose, wrong physique. Obviously its not Alan Scott, and the silly complaint that he's clear & "What green lantern was ever clear?" is ridiculous. The answer is: "Any green lantern whenever they want." Hal used to go invisible and phase through things daily in the Seventies. Wiz Kids gave us the clear plastic to try and make this special, (probably because we'll see this sculpt later) and you guys are just coplaining. I think its great. You can use it as a construct peice for your "real" GLs later on.

daredevil11

03/02/2003, 12:48

Originally posted by Hellboy
....The nice thing about the see-through plastic, it that you can keep one packaged up for your collection, then paint the other one to look like your favorite between the two (Hal or Kyle); leave his ring arm unpainted, dry-brushing along the edges! Its two Figures in one.

That's a good idea Hellboy.

John Stewart's taking a beating, so a few words in his defense. To me he's the coolest Green Lantern since Hal, and doesn't seem to be going anywhere. Actually I'll go so far as to say he will be this generation's Lantern - the fact that he's on TV shows how mainstream DC plans him to become, (you can't get more mainstream than a WB cartoon) On another note, I mean come on - DC is a little short on the minority characters, so I think DC's decision will stick.

My guess is though, his appearence in multimedia (TV) is what got him picked, just like the movies have lead to multiple Elektras and Daredevils. The figure itself, just like Elektra and Daredevil, is probably book based though. John is in print as the Green Lantern, he's not just a cartoon character, he's the character DC is promoting as the new Lantern, book and multimedia.

I sympathize with people, I'd like to see Hal at some point too, but let's face it, we're old. Hal's a few Green Lanterns back aye?
. . . Guy, Kyle and John. All three post-Hal.

Personally, I would have liked to have seen an older Catwoman, not the new Dune version or even the purple bimbo . . . Julie Newmar for me boys, but I'm not in the mainstream and few people younger than me know who Julie is.

I think at some point we'll get Hal and Alan, who knows when though, hang in there fellas or go with Hellboy's solution.

Noman

03/02/2003, 13:11

OK - but who is it SUPPOSED to be ?

I agree, obviously not Alan (No cape, to start with...), and I agree it's not John, for the reasons others have given. It's not Guy (wrong musculature, wrong head, no Boots), and it doesn't look like Kyle (it's not flying backwards going aaaaaargh...no, sorry, scratch that...), SO they may mean it to represent Hal, at some point in his career, so when, if it's supposed to be him ?

As to the argument that any GL could do this green-glow thing, well perhaps, but i've got LOADS of "source material" and can't find examples yet...goodness knows i've tried...could someone check the Stan Lee does the DC Universe thing, reffered to in an above post ? Just to see if that's where it's from...

Now, it could be supposed to be Hal - terrible sculpt, if so - but then look at Psylock, Cyclops, and Big Wasp - all more recognisable, but dodgy sculpts. So it could be.

However, the best explanation i've heard so far is that it's lifted from some sub-manga cartoon that we don't get over here, so I havn't seen it. Which would explain why I can't find a visual coroloration for this fig in any GL comic so far...

...and as I said earler

"Dorkie looking or not, it's got the GL team power of "Carry up to 8 people", so EVERYONE will want one...I wonder what the points cost is ??? "

(Everyone is thinking...now, who can I get to paint my second one ? - ...sound of 100's of solicitous emails and pm's hitting Doomtoy's account...)

LoL

All the Best

Noman

daredevil11

03/02/2003, 13:17

Well Noman, you've got the books and the history - I'm a big TV fan. In the cartoon, he glows all the time, but isn't translucent, however, as a modeler - I've tried to make characters glow and/or have an aura, I've found it impossible and the translucent look seems to come the closest to the effect, so that may be what they we're going for and it would be easy to do if they've already got the mold for a painted REV.

I respectfully disagree with some here, I think the sculpt does look like John, close short hair, simple to the point costume.

Oh and cheers to my fellow members in Britain . . . this is about the only time I run into you guys live - LOL

Grinner

03/02/2003, 13:21

Originally posted by Noman
I don't buy this iit's someone off a cartoon TV show argument - given the variety of DC Green Lanterns out there, they wouldn't have to go non-source-material, now would they...

1) JonL said it's John Stewart. That's good enough for me.

2) John Stewart is not 'non-source-material.' He has been a character in the Green Lantern comics for the better part of 30 years. He was Hal's alternate after Guy was messed up. He had several stretches being Earth's Green Lantern when Hal would have one of his periodic "I've had it with the Guardians - I quit!" moods. He had his own series (Green Lantern - Mosaic). He was one of Kyle's circle of advisors.

3) Unless I'm mistaken, John Stewart is the current Green Lantern. Kyle decided to take some time off, in part because of the incidents during the Obsidian Age storyline in JLA. He brought John Stewart back in to take his place. So we've got John Stewart as the JLA's Green Lantern in both the cartoon and the comic book. Sounds like a pretty good reason to make him a GL in the next DC set and a good reason to make him the send-away LE.

And, like others have said, having a translucent figure would mean you could paint in up to be whichever GL you want it to be.

Noman

03/02/2003, 13:21

Found further up the thread :-

Qoute from the big man, Jon L,

"It's a green, translucent version of the John Steward Green Lantern. He has lots of Phasing.

Why him instead of Hal or Kyle? Because he's on T.V.

Now you know.

Best,

Jon Leitheusser
HeroClix Game Designer
WizKids "

...and that's that.

It's a glowing John Stewart from the TV program, not the comic.

QED

LoL

All the Best

Noman

(and Grinner, I KNOW who John Stewart is, I probably have most of the comics he appeared in, as well as DC Universe. My point was that this is him from the cartoon that everyone is mentioning, and NOT from any of the comics. Hence non-source-material. Had I ever seen the cartoon, I might have figured it out, but without that, no way !)
LoL
All the Best
Noman)

Kid Zero

03/02/2003, 13:23

Is it so green because they don't really want to give us a clue as to who it really is?

So maybe I ought to read through all of the posts. Ooops.

Ironman1492

03/02/2003, 13:35

when does this inquest come out?
and is this gonna be availble in anyother magazines like wizard?

daredevil11

03/02/2003, 13:43

Noman, I pm'd you a good site with pictures from the series. Is it true that British vcr's run different tapes than US models, I know the electrical current for everything is different. If that's the case, hopefully they'll convert the stuff soon.

daredevil11

03/02/2003, 14:46

Oh good golly, looking back . . . it appears I agree with Grinner . . . that's never happened before, now I know its time to cut the computer off.

All in fun Grinner.

metzgarob

03/02/2003, 14:57

Originally posted by Noman

It's a glowing John Stewart from the TV program, not the comic.

QED

LoL

All the Best

Noman

i do think that its the green lantern from the comic. JonL siad that stewart is being used BECAUSE he is in the TV show not that its the stewart FROM the tv show.

btw whats QED mean

for IRONMAN1492 the inquest it comes in is issue #97 wich comes out in april it is also in the wizard that comes out in may

TheFallenOne

03/02/2003, 15:14

ive seen every episode of the Justice League cartoon show (im assuming thats what he was refering too) but ive never seen the green lantern turn translucent before. so it must be jon from the cartoon but based on something from a comic.

Noman

03/02/2003, 17:07

Sounds reasonable.

QED means Quad Et Deferandum (sp ?)

Latin for "definitly proven by this method" or Shown and Proved.
QED is used in Maths at the end of theorems and such.

And yes, our Videos can't play your tapes, so unless it's been on terrestrial TV, most of us won't have seen it...

All the Best

Noman

Jadehorde

03/02/2003, 17:54

Originally posted by proditor
My only thought after the inital disappointment was that this might mean we'd get Hal and Kyle in Cosmis Justice as REV's. Then I hit the "Wait a sec, they already made a Jon Stewart..." and that's when I realized that he'll probably be who we get as a REV and the LE will be like OWAW Superman.

*Le sigh.*

Well, here's hoping that they do add at least Kyle and Hal to Cosmic Justice and that they don't try to make Parralax or Ion as Uniques. Mostly cuz I don't want a 1000 point team with only one guy on it. ;)

Woah I say "Le sigh" too

Coolness

Angafea

03/02/2003, 19:27

<b>Can somebody in the know post a page # or some sort of source for where the image came from? Does Diamond's retailer catalogue differ from the standard advertisements in the consumer version of Previews?</b>

The deal is that I work for a comic distributer, and we get store exclusive updates from Diamond beyond (and before) the catalogue (called "Diamond Daily") via e-mail.

That's where the ####py picture came from.

You gotta have the love, man.

Pax
Tim

JonL

03/02/2003, 21:00

The John Stewart Green Lantern is being cast in translucent green plastic to represent him using the ring to either

a) pass through solid matter, or

b) beef up his force field.

In either case he looks green. We and DC thought it would be cool to do a version like this and have powers that are different from the version that will be...oh, wait, I can't finish that sentence.

As for the picture, that's a photoshopped image of a non-translucent figure because that's all we had to work from. The actual piece looks different.

Oh, hey Angafea, I don't think it's cool that you're posting pictures that you're probably not supposed to. It may be fun, but I bet it'll come back and bite you in the butt at some point. Maybe you should just wait until the image if officially released before posting it? Especially since I now know your name is Tim and that you work for Diamond.

Best,

Jon Leitheusser
HeroClix Game Designer
WizKids

Noman

03/02/2003, 21:07

Ouch.

That sounded like the Thump of a Stone Tablet on a mountain top.

All the Best

Noman

...but at least Jon L explains
a) Why it's such a photoshoped picture
b) That John Stewart is in the set.
c) That the real translucent fig looks better.
d) That he's a bit miffed
and e) why no one could find that picture anywhere, which is why some people thought it was a fake.

Ummmm.....any body else feeling stunned ?

daredevil11

03/02/2003, 21:21

"anyone else feeling stunned" - Noman

Just a bit LOL, looks like something slipped out a little early.

(Hands raised in the air) I'd just like to say for the record that my name is not Tim and I don't work for Diamond.

I would like to say, in Tim's defense, that the original post cited the source as someone named Double_a

On another note, an all green Lantern sounds cool, heck I don't care which Lantern it is really - I want the dial LOL

Mushroomfantas

03/02/2003, 21:22

I smell a DC expansion

Noman

03/02/2003, 21:25

Does it smell like Pineapple ?

(Good grief, I can't believe I said that !!! )

AtB

Noman

Mushroomfantas

03/02/2003, 21:27

Originally posted by Noman
Does it smell like Pineapple ?

(Good grief, I can't believe I said that !!! )

AtB

Noman

It smell more like a pear

=P

daredevil11

03/02/2003, 21:31

pineapple or pear, i'm thinking its 40% percent female so check your fruit fellas.

Mushroomfantas

03/02/2003, 21:32

Wow, fruit have genders =P

Noman

03/02/2003, 21:36

Oh no, it's going to be CriticalMiss chasing Angafea with the Big Wabbit hunting mallet...

LoL

All the Best

Noman

(Seriously, people, lets try not to rattle TOO many cages, these are the big leaguers...)

Good news about the better quality promo fig, though - now I wonder, is it an LE or a Promo ? My money is on a gold ringed LE, but you never know...

AtB

Noman

skyounkin

03/02/2003, 21:38

Have to say very cooooool.......

Grendel

03/02/2003, 21:48

It's also possible that the final version may be partially painted, like the Experienced Invisible Woman, although more selective.

Regardless...

GLs can and have phased through objects, and have used constructs of themselves on occasion.

daredevil11

03/02/2003, 21:49

Well its something of a dilemma isn't it. As fans and players we all want to know everything as soon as possible . . . if you're making the game though you don't want things released too early and half done - here's a classic example, its not even a real picture. Well we're all big, you have to expect that if you seek early news it might not be 100% accurate - it will be real and accurate when it hits your mailbox - and it will hit mine, I tell you it will happen, and I'm going to get an extra or two to sell to slow people that miss out LOL

Night all - time to hit the hay.

Doomtoy

03/02/2003, 21:54

1. Since Doomtoy is going to be ordering several, Doomtoy will likely paint one for his own use. However, since RealmWorx policy prohibits the sale or trading of repaints on this site, Doomtoy will not be painting any for internet exchange.

2. Green Lanterns can phase if they wanna. The golden age GL phased through a wall shortly after discovering his powers, in his very first appearance, and Hal Jordan routinely phased through walls, either by surrounding himself with green energy, or (at least on one occasion) shrinking himself to subatomic size, and then drifting between the atoms.

3. I personally would have preferred an LE Hal Jordan, but since LEs are invariably simply repaints of ordinary figures with special bases and dials, I guess I will just have to live with it. Putting John Stewart in the set is a no-brainer, since he's the GL in the popular TV show, and WizKids is in the business to make money, not satisfy comic book scientists who are apparently going to gripe, no matter Wizkids decides to do or not do.

4. Got'cher pineapple right here, boys: the translucent green figure is meant to imply green glow, green energy, and so forth. All the GLs have routinely been surrounded with green energy when they used their powers. I have it on extremely good authority that the original LE GL figure worked out by Wizkids was actually going to GLOW, to literally radiate green light!

Unfortunately, the original version proved economically unfeasible, since it would require LEDs and a tiny battery, and multiply the cost per figure by a factor of 80. Their second idea was quite cheap and wonderfully feasible, and caused a brilliant green glow... but was ultimately kiboshed after several playtesters dropped dead of radiation poisoning. WizKids apparently felt there might be some legal liability issues here.

So I guess we're just gonna have to deal with a translucent green plastic figure that most players will not have, which will apparently have powers that regular GLs will not have, in much the same way as the OWAW Superman did.

Poor, poor us...

razz10555

03/02/2003, 21:57

I bet the Alan Scott will be unique when it comes out, based on the Jay Garrick Flash was unique, they'll probably have guy come out as the Gladiator first. & with that team ability they'll be about 301 points each. Also that's just the team ability of the gl corp as far as I can remember at one time or another every gl has quit the corp - waht I'm getting at is that team ability is a red herring, carry 8 people, get real cowboy, either the points will be so high they will be unplayable (i.e. owaw superman on a standard 300 pt team) or no one will have it, I'm guessing the latter

T-RO

03/02/2003, 21:57

BOOO, HISSS BOOO

It looks stupid in that transparant green.

Ok, im done. :)

Noman

03/02/2003, 22:41

Qoute from Jon L

"The John Stewart Green Lantern is being cast in translucent green plastic to represent him using the ring to either
a) pass through solid matter, or
b) beef up his force field.
In either case he looks green. We and DC thought it would be cool to do a version like this and have powers that are different from the version that will be...oh, wait, I can't finish that sentence. As for the picture, that's a photoshopped image of a non-translucent figure because that's all we had to work from. The actual piece looks different. Oh, hey Angafea, I don't think it's cool that you're posting pictures that you're probably not supposed to. It may be fun, but I bet it'll come back and bite you in the butt at some point. Maybe you should just wait until the image if officially released before posting it? Especially since I now know your name is Tim and that you work for Diamond.
Best,
Jon Leitheusser
HeroClix Game Designer
WizKids"

Qoute from Noman (me)

"Ouch.

That sounded like the Thump of a Stone Tablet on a mountain top.

All the Best

Noman

...but at least Jon L explains
a) Why it's such a photoshoped picture
b) That John Stewart is in the set.
c) That the real translucent fig looks better.
d) That he's a bit miffed
and e) why no one could find that picture anywhere, which is why some people thought it was a fake.

Ummmm.....any body else feeling stunned ?"

I'm broadly with Doomtoy on this (NOT that that's going to get me a repainted GL...LoL), John is one of the Big Four, and financialy it was a sensible choice. It also guarantees that a John Stewart GL is in Cosmic Justice. Now, if he's in it, then there is a very good chance that Hal is (as a GL) and that Alan and Guy may be. Plus, there is an outside chance we might get Kyle. I think more than 4 GLs in the set is unlikely, although I'd love to see Killowog (sp ?) or Ch'pp (Sp ?).

I certainly intend to get at least 2 of these, somehow...of course, out in the wilds we never even see magazines like this, which is a total pain...

I am very releaved to hear the LE fig will be a better one than the pic - and Green translucence might look very cool...

And on the team thing, no, they WILL have it - they'll just be very expensive...

(imagine a Crossover battle with a GL taxi carrying 8 Con Artists, or his own personal squad of 8 medics, or...etc etc)

All the Best

Noman

Grinner

03/02/2003, 23:10

Originally posted by JonL
In either case he looks green. We and DC thought it would be cool to do a version like this and have powers that are different from the version that will be...oh, wait, I can't finish that sentence.

I almost spit soda all over my screen when I read that! Jon, you've definitely got a great sense of humor. And you definitely need it when dealing with all us comic & gaming geeks.

Just wanted to say thanks for all the work you guys do, and for taking the time to actually talk with us.

Angafea

03/03/2003, 02:07

<b> From Jon Leitheusser
Oh, hey Angafea, I don't think it's cool that you're posting pictures that you're probably not supposed to. It may be fun, but I bet it'll come back and bite you in the butt at some point. Maybe you should just wait until the image if officially released before posting it? Especially since I now know your name is Tim and that you work for Diamond.</b>

Mr Leitheusser,

As far as I know, this picure was released to all of Diamonds Accounts ( I work at one, not Diamond itself) with no cavaet that it wasn't to be released. If incorrect, I apologize, but I ment no disrespect to you or Wizkids. I was just excited by seeing the acutal picture and wanted to share it.

And as to knowing my name, well, it's bedause I included it. I have nothing to hide from, and if you'd like to speak to me, my e-mail is available through this site and your own (I'm Angafea at both places).

Anyway, great piece, can't wait to give you my money for it, Xplosion, and the next DC expansion.

Keeping the excitement flowing,

Tim

JonL

03/03/2003, 02:27

Cool. I didn't understand that the photo had been sent out by Diamond. Sorry about that. S'cool.

--Jon

WarHULK

03/03/2003, 02:58

Well, I'm really looking forward to this figure. I've been wanting a GL and John isn't a bad one at all. Can't wait to see how he's done and how many points he'll be. I can't wait for this set either! Three sets coming out within the next 6 months? I believe you are trying to bankrupt me LOL.

cephy

03/03/2003, 04:19

Qoute from Noman (me)

"Ouch.

That sounded like the Thump of a Stone Tablet on a mountain top.

And now, one of moviedom's great burning questions has been answered, or part of one of them anyways. The question? What was on that other tablet that Mel Brooks dropped as Moses? *Remember? "Presenting the fifteen(slip,thud, CRACK) ? Ten, TEN commandments!"
One of the last five must have "Don't early release or piss off the big guys at Wizkids..."

Seriously, i for one can't wait to get a chance to get the GL- John Stewart or not. It's Wizkids, it's a GL, it's for a game I love, and something I enjoy. The details don't matter, the specifics inconsequential. If the sculpt isn't isn't to my liking? So what, i know I can't do any better- I'll still play it. Maybe tournament games all have a Firelord in them, maybe not- maybe everyone plays for the tourneys- i know I don't- I love using every figure, and trying everything that's available. How else will I know what i like? Going with what works? Maybe, what other's have tried? Sure, but where's the fun of experimenting myself?
All you can do is play....

Cephy

mulkabu

03/03/2003, 07:22

I know there may be many -insert GL name here - fans here, but i gotta add that I want to see the gl from tv. Having seen GL lantern in many comics over the year, I can honestly say the only time I thought he deserved the ink was when he appeared in the comic comic "Hitman" and was ruthlessly parodied.
However, the JLA cartoon has exactly the right tongue-in-cheek attitude and I was sold on this "John Stewart" guy since the moment he showed up and excused
"Sorry I'm late there was alittle trouble on Rigel 9".

To hell with Hal, Guy and every other lantern. Yay for glowing/non-glowing John Stewart!! :-)

Brian
who doesnt work for Diamond, isn't named Tim,a nd who therefore didnt spray his coffee all over the screen on JonL's last post ;-)

AZS

03/03/2003, 12:45

Originally posted by Slovman
Since when do GLs phase?

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. And back to the Phasing comment, the Stewart in Justice League NEVER phases. Bubbles and beams, bubbles and beams. So if we're going by TV all of a sudden, we're not being very consistent.

But releasing Jon Stewart, the GL equivalent of a second-string quarterback, before any of the others is just ridiculous. I was really looking forward to this LE...but now I'm not. Very disappointing.Wow Slov, I've never seen you this bitter.

GL's Phase. The most specific instance I can think of is Emerald Dawn where Hal phased in and out of prison while Sinestro taught him how to use the ring. (Could be ED 2).

Also, the figure isn't necessarily a representation of John on TV, just that Jon is on TV therefor he's a known character. But even so, they probably couldn't do the Justice League animated version because the rights are probably owned by someone else.

Anyway, relax. The fig looks damm cool and I bet he's got rockin' stats too. You know you'll regret it if you don't get one.
And look on the bright side, it could be worse, it could be Guy Gardner in his lame 80's jacket or worse than that, G'nort.
So chill buddy.

ducko5

03/03/2003, 12:48

I'm glad it's Jon Stuart! I hope he stays an active member of the
JLA (in the comics and cartoon) for a long time! I also think a translucent green figure is an awsome idea, especially when the regular versions are in the set! That's a nice idea for a rare variant.

AZS

03/03/2003, 12:55

Ok, now that I've read the whole thread I'll add two more cents...

Man, I am constantly surprised by the amount of complaining fanboys can do.
"I don't like Jon, I don't like the sculpt, I don't like the powers."

Its too cool that they are continuing with the awesome looking translucent plastics that they've used for Invisible Girl, Sinestro, and the upcoming Iceman (saw 1 on ebay). And in that vein, at least he's not just a cheesy re-paint, its a totally new fig just for us as an exclusive. It shows that WK know's how loyal the fanbase is and is rewarding us in kind by going the extra step with thier promos. Kudos, and I'll be watching the stands for that Wizard mag and send mine in the same day.

*end rant*

ducko5

03/03/2003, 14:05

I guess you can't call it a repaint, as there's no actual paint on it, but I got the feeling that there will be a painted version in the next DC set.

Grinner

03/03/2003, 15:00

Originally posted by azs
And look on the bright side, it could be worse, it could be Guy Gardner in his lame 80's jacket

Hey, I want the 'moon boots' costume on a Guy Gardner clix!

Of course, I also use Black Manta and Changeling.

raphael76

03/03/2003, 16:48

Just to drop my ten cents in...sorry inflation is killing everyone and I gotta increase price from the normal two cents...

Anyway, this is just a thought I had. Perhaps they will do something with GL similar to the Invisible Girl figs, but take it a step further. Perhaps we'll see a Rookie GL Kyle Rayner, an Experienced GL (John Stewart), and a Veteran GL (Hal Jordan). I'm sure all the versions of GL are going to be a high point cost, and doing it this way would probably realistically portray those respective characters power levels. Kyle being the least experienced GL would make the most sense as a rookie, while John is more seasoned and would make sense for experienced, while Hal is considered the greatest GL of all time, so he would make sense for the Veteran. Then, to keep in line with the Flash, make the Unique GL an Alan Scott. While I'm throwing this out, perhaps you could put Kyle with the JLA, since he was technically never a member of the GL Corps, and then have John and Hal be GL Corps members. Anyway, just a thought, take it or leave it.

MAttdman

03/03/2003, 17:23

When does anyone think the magazine will come out?

HalfassedNinja

03/03/2003, 18:29

Originally posted by MAttdman
When does anyone think the magazine will come out?

IT'S APRIL'S ISSUE. # 97. BAH!

The Ninja

I'm back baby!

bigbird

03/03/2003, 21:18

Somebody fill in the blanks for me, will you?

INQUEST MAGAZINE COVER PRICE: __________

PRICE OF ACTUAL GREEN LANTERN FIGURE: __________

SHIPPING AND HANDLING: __________

TOTAL: __________

LITERS OF BLOOD I'LL HAVE TO SELL TO PAY FOR IT: _______________

bizzaro

03/03/2003, 22:05

Originally posted by Slovman

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. And back to the Phasing comment, the Stewart in Justice League NEVER phases. Bubbles and beams, bubbles and beams. So if we're going by TV all of a sudden, we're not being very consistent.

I had no problem with the movie tie-in figs in Marvel sets cause they stayed true to the comics. You aren't releasing a Ben Affleck Daredevil figure in Xplosion or a Colin Ferrel Bullseye. The Elektra in Xplosion is straight off a comic cover.

But releasing Jon Stewart, the GL equivalent of a second-string quarterback, before any of the others is just ridiculous. I was really looking forward to this LE...but now I'm not. Very disappointing.

Consistant? He can't phase? I thought that a lantern's power was really only restricted by his imagination. There have been instances of it in the comic (I can think of one in the Emarld Dawn storyline).

As to him being translucent ... c'mon. Every Inquest has been a repaint. This looks pretty similiar to the iceman sculpt coming out and they just removed the slide (of course he's green though). You're NOT going to get a new sculpt for an inquest offer.
When you see a lantern, he's usually surround by an glowing green energy shield ... so there ya go.

I thought we might have gotten a GL Sinestro as the offer but since we JUST got him as big fig (which needs a GL to fight) ....

Also ... why is everyone so down on John Stewart? Yeah, I think of Hal jordan or Kyle first ... but geez. Give the poor guy a break. How long has Hal Jordan not been GL? Early 90s? Face it ... everyone has a different favorite GL. I must admit ... I never really thought much of Stewart except as a fill in since I wasn't terribly familair with him until the animated JLA show came out. You've got to remember this though ... there are MANY more people that are exposed to the Justice League cartoon than read today's GL .... so I'm guessing most folks currently (that aren't diehard comic fans) associate Stewart with GL (for the moment).

Slovman

03/03/2003, 22:54

Originally posted by azs
Wow Slov, I've never seen you this bitter.

Shouldn't that tell you something? ;)

Granted, I was really looking forward to Kyle Rayner...since he's the current comic book GL (even if he is on another planet at the moment). So I wanted a Kyle figure.

But I was also prepared to get a Hal figure, because there are enough Kyle-hating Hal fans out there to make it necessary. So I was willing to deal with that too.

John Stewart is a shot from left field. I like the guy fine. I like the character on the JL cartoon...just not the way he uses the ring. I hate the fact that the reason is only because he's on this TV show.

Now, if there are a slew of other GLs in Cosmic Justice, then this won't be a big deal...but it doesn't sound like that's the case.

As for the Phasing issue...I stand corrected. But it still seems like a small part of the GL repetoire. I knew it would be extremely difficult to represent the power that is the GL ring...but this strikes me as an odd choice...and a threateningly unbalancing one combined with the GL Team Ability.

bigbird

03/03/2003, 22:57

http://anycities.com/user1/theunicycler/gl.bmp

...It's all coming together...

Nickel97

03/03/2003, 23:11

if one of the GLs (or any figure in HC for that matter) glowed in the dark (like those crazy mageknight "foils" that I keep losing on ebay even though I don't play the game at all).

That being said. I like Jon Stewart just fine as a mail away. I like translucent figures. I think the GL team ability is pretty darn good too, and a GL with "lots of phasing" will be scary. Only thing scarier would be a GL with "lots of phasing" AND willpower.

razz10555

03/03/2003, 23:13

cover price $4.99
lantern price best guess between $7 & $10 add $2 extra for fast fed ex shipping, the coupon will say allow 16 - 20 weeks for shipping, but thats what all toyfare wizard & inquest mailaways say, I've ordered lots mail aways in the past it never takes that long i.e owaw superman 5 weeks, faker from he-man 5 weeksyou see the pattern
shipping $2 for fed ex I can't remember the regular usmail price
as for total I don't know what you mean there is a limit of 2 per coupon if you want a monatary total, 2 owaw superman clix were $18 at fed ex price
liters of blood it costs that all depends, how much you got to spare?

hope that helps

bigbird

03/03/2003, 23:53

tanks big, razor.

...but i dont have much blood left after both big figs a total of 40$
(and i heard type ABC was rare).

...uh-oh. I'm going into shock right now.

safdbvcmtjuytdnvbcvb_needblood_gfdbvcxnbvc_help_gfjhgfjhgfhf
oh, wait, did you say he carrys EIGHT PEOPLE?? oh, ok, im better

razz10555

03/04/2003, 00:01

I still don't see how thats possible 8 people at once, any thing less than 1000 point games that will be almost worthless

I like the previos idea someone had for rookie kyle ex jon & vet hal, but I'd rather see them all sand alone rev's that way we can have everyone g'nort kilowog guy serenity even tomar re the fishheadede GL & then unique alan to match up with unique jay garrick flash

Mjolnir

03/04/2003, 00:46

Guy? With Moon Boots?
I'd HAVE to have that GL!!
yes he was annoying......yes he did a disservice to Hal and the Corps....but dang if that was one of the most INTERESTING characters DC ever had. Think about it: Usually the Anti-hero is some kinda Matrixwannabe who shambles around mumbling....
gardner was a real Anti-hero! Who wasn't annoyed by him? Who would like to emulate him? Anti-heros, in our culture, tend to have quite a few fans. Guy was a character for the Ages.

shin-goji

03/04/2003, 00:49

I just want him so I can put my custom Hurricane Helms figure on him, field him into a team full of villians and go, "What's up wit' dat!?"

Shaftkid7

03/04/2003, 01:49

Originally posted by XocgX
It's an orderable LE, why would anyone complain?! If you like it, get it, if not, don't!

RIGHT ON!! Quit complaining at least it's a GL before the other GL's come out! And besides the reason why Jon only makes bubbles and beams is because the ring reacts to the users imagination... he barely makes anything else in the comic as well..

EvrWndr

03/04/2003, 13:43

I just have a question on this GL:

How will I be able to get one? Any Magazine place that gets the mag or do I have to subscribe?

And IF I have to subscribe will I be garanteed to get the one with the figure or will I just probably be a little too late?

Just want to know how to get it and where to go to get it is all.

Thanks In Advance!

Ever Wonder?

metzgarob

03/04/2003, 14:50

any place that carrys wizard u can probably find inquest...
book stores, hobby shops, comic shops

and if u cant find inquest, the same fig will be available in the may issue of wizard

also they dont really "run out" of them... i mailed out for my berserker wolverine a few months after it was made available and still recieved it at the same time as everyone else

theLex

03/04/2003, 20:03

Originally posted by Slovman
Now, if there are a slew of other GLs in Cosmic Justice, then this won't be a big deal...but it doesn't sound like that's the case. Why don't you think there will be more GL's in Cosmic Justice? I assumed that, because of the name, it will have several GLs and Legion characters. My guess would be John, Kyle and a Hal unique.

As for the Phasing issue...I stand corrected. But it still seems like a small part of the GL repetoire. I knew it would be extremely difficult to represent the power that is the GL ring...but this strikes me as an odd choice...and a threateningly unbalancing one combined with the GL Team Ability. I guess I don't see how it's unbalancing to have phasing and the GL TA. And I believe JonL alluded to the fact that they wanted to try out some different powers for this LE. So the REV Lanterns won't be the same as this one power-wise.

Lex