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Draddog
03/01/2003, 21:49
Judge Raosun sent these over from MegaCon!
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Manchine
03/01/2003, 21:51
Love the pics

PS

I cant open any of the pics??

qbann4
03/01/2003, 21:53
im the second post awsome clix

Psylockeslover
03/01/2003, 21:53
thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou............

Colossus76
03/01/2003, 21:54
Very cool!!!!!

Iceman sculp is fantastic!!!!!

They all look great!

Can't wait for Colossus!!

hair10
03/01/2003, 21:54
Ice man is sweet! Typhoid looks like #### (Ack! I was sooo wanting a Typhoid Mary fig too! Grrr!). Did Wizkids screw up and put the Prostitute clix on a Con Artist base? :D

metzgarob
03/01/2003, 21:54
2 words AWE SOME

drhmccoy
03/01/2003, 21:54
*drool*

vkjustice
03/01/2003, 21:54
Wow.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.


Wow.

Mushroomfantas
03/01/2003, 21:55
holy cow!

Mad awsome!

supergoblin
03/01/2003, 21:55
Wow, the con artist is giving white queen a run for her mony

Billy Jack
03/01/2003, 22:02
These clix are great totaly unexpected thank you. So is there a complete list on the site just yet?

jedigeof
03/01/2003, 22:08
Wow thanks dude. I can't wait to get an Iceman.

jedah_s
03/01/2003, 22:10
three quick questions.
#1. taking a peek at the stats, it looks like scorpion, abomination, and silver samurai have yellow on their movement. phasing, funky color on the photos or a new power?
#2 con artist picture.... i see an archenemy base in the back ground... ideas?
#3 since these are up, has the pineapple ban been lifted?
incredible iceman
cool looking figs overall
can't wait to play an all ninja squad :)

supergoblin
03/01/2003, 22:14
I think the arch enemy base in the backround of the con artist photo is the ninja.s

mercer
03/01/2003, 22:18
Pineapples! Twinz! It's all meaningless now isn't it? Man, that Abomination looks soooo cool and the Viper figure and the Silver Samurai and..........Dear heroclix XPlosion rumor mill: I think we should start seeing other people. It's not you, it's me! You were great, it's just that there's this new DC set coming out and now that I know what's going to be in the Marvel set.....I want my cds back!

FlashFIRE
03/01/2003, 22:18
typhoid mary.. looks members of the cast for Deadpool's old comic are assembling!

now if only they'll make a Deadpool fig.. (not likely.. punks @ Marvel)

DraXXXen
03/01/2003, 22:23
Iceman rules, Mandarin is amazing and who can't help loving the shiney Silver Samurai.

Apocalypse looks alright, not complaining. Any idea how many points he's worth?

Mushroomfantas
03/01/2003, 22:23
Originally posted by jedah_s
three quick questions.
#1. taking a peek at the stats, it looks like scorpion, abomination, and silver samurai have yellow on their movement. phasing, funky color on the photos or a new power?



Its Leap/climb

Silverlynx35
03/01/2003, 22:26
LOL Mercer.
Look how freakin' big Apocolypse and Colossus are. These look so sweet. Iceman rocks. I want.....I want.......


SL35

mercer
03/01/2003, 22:27
Man, the more I look at these, the more I love them. Iceman is AWESOME! His powers may blow, but that sculpt is perfect. Wonder if the rookie looks like frosty the snowman? ONE COMPLAINT: why are the Hand Ninjas in black? They were all in red in the comics. Oh, well, nothing some acrylic paint can't fix....

jgc
03/01/2003, 22:29
everyone pay attention to the best fig ever vet. manderin
range of 12 with 3 damage
yyyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhoooooooooooo!!

jasonh08
03/01/2003, 22:31
A huge thank you to those who took the time to put this together. It is greatly appreciated!!!!!!

So how does it compare to the pineapple so far?

Jason H.

Bluebeard
03/01/2003, 22:31
This really does look great. I've always play Villians and that Mandarin figure looks fantastic! He could give Firelord a run for his money. That Death....something (Hey, I'm sorry. I'm not big on the comics) also looks like a helluva deal for the 70 points he costs. I'll have to get me one of them. Is he a villian by any chance? Also... who are those funny green water monster thingys? I love the sculpt on them and I hope they'll be worth using on a team.

jedah_s
03/01/2003, 22:32
Originally posted by Mushroomfantas



Its Leap/climb

I was under the impression that leap/climb was orange
those look awfully yellow to me
but i am blue/green color blind... maybe i'm adding more colors as i get older

and whoever said it before, good call on the hand archenemy base... i should look harder before i ask.
who's archenemies with the hand? wolverine?

hair10
03/01/2003, 22:34
Originally posted by Bluebeard
This really does look great. I've always play Villians and that Mandarin figure looks fantastic! He could give Firelord a run for his money. That Death....something (Hey, I'm sorry. I'm not big on the comics) also looks like a helluva deal for the 70 points he costs. I'll have to get me one of them. Is he a villian by any chance? Also... who are those funny green water monster thingys? I love the sculpt on them and I hope they'll be worth using on a team.

Deathbird. She is a villian. Sister to the queen of the Shi'ar race. The "green water monster thingys" are the Aboniation.... nemesis of the Hulk.

Magnito
03/01/2003, 22:34
I think I'm in love, I can't reconize the second last one, who is it,

Psylockeslover
03/01/2003, 22:34
who's archenemies with the hand? wolverine?


Daredevil.

supergoblin
03/01/2003, 22:34
Daredevil

Gargantua
03/01/2003, 22:37
These are so cool. Thanks for the pics!

Mandarin looks great. And Iceman is amazing - except he doesn't look like he'd really balance too well. Maybe that's just the angle. Apocalypse is only mezzo, though maybe it's just the shot.

Anyone else notice, is that a new team ability on the SWAT guys? Hard to tell what it is. Could be SHIELD, but doesn't look quite like it. And besides then these guys with the RCE would be no different from SHIELD Snipers.

drhmccoy
03/01/2003, 22:38
Magnito said:
I think I'm in love, I can't reconize the second last one, who is it,

Looks like her number is 18. A paramedic perhaps?

supergoblin
03/01/2003, 22:39
it is sheild chack the warroir lookup

Funky Jett
03/01/2003, 22:39
Draddog, it looks like you can replace the temporary symbol in the Warriors section now. You can see the giant X set symbol in the photos.

FlatFootedBoy
03/01/2003, 22:39
*dies of anticipation*


Now, I must decide...

Doom or Ninja? Nothing has ever been so hard in my life! NOOOOOOO!

Raosun
03/01/2003, 22:39
Apocalypse is 133 points, alot of us agree
that he is wwaaayyyyy under powered.

Oh yeah, i dont have a pic and dont know iff its been said elsewhere yet, but spidey's arch enemy is the green goblin.

HOWEVER it is the ULTIMATE Green Goblin and is one heck of a awesome looking figure.

Gargantua
03/01/2003, 22:42
HOWEVER it is the ULTIMATE Green Goblin and is one heck of a awesome looking figure.

No doubt he's got an aewsome sculpt. I'm looking forward to seeing him. Question is, is he more playable than Hobgoblin?

FlatFootedBoy
03/01/2003, 22:42
Ultimate Green Goblin? That changes everything!
I need it now!

*dies again*

supergoblin
03/01/2003, 22:42
rauson can you post the Big A's Stats

Thunderbolts
03/01/2003, 22:43
*HOWEVER it is the ULTIMATE Green Goblin and is one heck of a awesome looking figure.*

Chalk up the first Marvel click I will not be collecting. Hope he gets good trades.

Captain K.
03/01/2003, 22:46
Iceman is godly.

Destiny has an attack of 0. ROTFLMAO.

I'm really looking forward to getting the generics in this set. (Con Artist is especially yummy)

Magnito
03/01/2003, 22:47
Originally posted by Thunderbolts
*HOWEVER it is the ULTIMATE Green Goblin

All this means is that a Non U will come out and it won't be Ultimate
PS. I think I might cry, I've been waiting for previews like this since...

StormMaster
03/01/2003, 22:48
STORM STORM STORM STORM STORM STORM STORM

I know we've all seen her already, but seeing the Veteran...oh man.

The other figs look amazing, I've never been this excited for the set to come out since I was on my way to get my first starter of IC. I seriously cannot wait to get these figures!!!!!!!!

daredevil11
03/01/2003, 22:50
wOw, geez I think WK sneak peeked the wrong stuff. A lot of nice surprises. Abomination is awesome, one of the great missing characters from Overpower but REV for HC - terrific. ... and Iceman, much better than expected. Like the look of Shadowcat and Colossus, classic stuff, the hand and many others. Luke warm on old Apocalypse, but no big deal, I see he's a unique so I probably won't get him anyway LOL. Can't wait to set up a clan of the Hand.

Prophet924
03/01/2003, 22:50
WOW!

Love the Iceman!!!!

Too bad there is no Firestorm. Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends!!! Maybe in a Spidey expansion set next year. . .

I cannot wait to get my hands on these!!!

Mandarin looks very imposing. Colossus is massive. As a classic Spidey fan, Scorpion was done up right, too bad no BFC. Must get an army of ninja.

Also I am wondering if these Con Artist are going to be hard to find figs mainly due to the really cheap Perplex.

Man, March just got longer!

Thwipp!

Raosun
03/01/2003, 22:52
I cannot remember goblins stats, but he puts hobgolin to shame that i can remember.

Big A's stats

movement 8,8,8,8,7,7,7,6,6
attack 10,10,10,9,9,9,9,8,8,
defense 15,15,15,15,14,14,14,13,13
damage 3,3,3,2,2,2,2,2,2

1st phase,super str,invuln, ldr
2 same
3 plasticity,super str,toughness,ldr
4 same except he has perplex
5 same
6 same no super str
7 same
8 phase and toughness
9 same

FlatFootedBoy
03/01/2003, 22:53
Oh, those generics... must have!


Sure, Thugs were fun, annoying as heck. Although, I did weaken Superman enought to swarm him with Tuhggs and Lackeies, and he fell!

But the ninja and the con artist(who doesn't like a good hooker?), they shall be so annoying, NONE SHALL BE SANE AGAINST ME!

supergoblin
03/01/2003, 22:59
Hey he looks desent, I need to get him so I can build my evil traid of distructoin! Doomsday, Darkside, and Apocolyspe

Jackalope
03/01/2003, 22:59
Pics are great! Why would they give the Goblin Phase and Plasticity? Seems strange. Can't wait to see Taskmaster if the pinapple is correct that I got. I pray its the old style one and not the new "thing" they came up with for the L.S.

guanoe
03/01/2003, 22:59
xplosion is rather heavy on MC/INCAP long rangers(>10).
Vet handrain is really powerful.

but iceman really looks cool.

supergoblin
03/01/2003, 23:02
I think Bat Poop just made a good observatoin about the range/incapcitate.

Raosun
03/01/2003, 23:03
Taskmasters pic is in there, he looks sort of like a shield guy. Hes definitly not the colorful version.
he is one heck of a beast tho, Experienced version is 58 pts, MOD team, starts with stealth, Bcf, mastermind and leadership. 6 rans and gains incapacitate, energy deflection and flurry on different clix later on.

Thug4Life
03/01/2003, 23:03
YO!!! COLOSSUS IS SO FRIGGIN' AWESOME!!!!!!!!! and MANDARIN has probably the most Gorgeous design out of all the clix. I WANT THIS NOW!!!!!!

Raosun
03/01/2003, 23:12
Heres a couple of odd things I've noticed already, Storm has a old AE style base. Heres the real kicker.....Mystique, at leat on her exp version does NOT have shape change, only stealth and perplex., and 2 clix of EE.

batman19
03/01/2003, 23:14
Apocolypse!!!!!!!!!!!!.........................Must have.

Jadehorde
03/01/2003, 23:16
Originally posted by Manchine
Love the pics

PS

I cant open any of the pics??

If you have norton you have to disablethe internet security thing or it won't allow you to access the site.

Jadehorde
03/01/2003, 23:20
Originally posted by Gargantua
These are so cool. Thanks for the pics!

Mandarin looks great. And Iceman is amazing - except he doesn't look like he'd really balance too well. Maybe that's just the angle. Apocalypse is only mezzo, though maybe it's just the shot.

Anyone else notice, is that a new team ability on the SWAT guys? Hard to tell what it is. Could be SHIELD, but doesn't look quite like it. And besides then these guys with the RCE would be no different from SHIELD Snipers.

Man I SO wanted these guys to have the PD symbol so you could have some unofficial DC/Marvel crossover...I mean the lowlies should be able to mingle right?

Jackalope
03/01/2003, 23:22
Originally posted by Raosun
Taskmasters pic is in there, he looks sort of like a shield guy. Hes definitly not the colorful version.
he is one heck of a beast tho, Experienced version is 58 pts, MOD team, starts with stealth, Bcf, mastermind and leadership. 6 rans and gains incapacitate, energy deflection and flurry on different clix later on.

All the shield looking guys I can see are actually shiled guys (can see team). Can you narrow down a little better? Which figures is he between? I'm dying here! 8D

Jadehorde
03/01/2003, 23:25
Originally posted by StormMaster
STORM STORM STORM STORM STORM STORM STORM

I know we've all seen her already, but seeing the Veteran...oh man.

The other figs look amazing, I've never been this excited for the set to come out since I was on my way to get my first starter of IC. I seriously cannot wait to get these figures!!!!!!!!

Just wondering...why is your message box so wide? Is it just me? Do other people see what I'm talking about? Just wondering is all.

Raosun
03/01/2003, 23:34
oops sorry guys, I had him on the site i sent Draddog, I guess he dint turn out in the transfer.

wfm3078
03/01/2003, 23:37
those just look great, and the stats sound good too. Thanks! And what about MAndarin, I cannot wait to get that guy on my team.

Snork
03/01/2003, 23:39
Originally posted by Jadehorde


Just wondering...why is your message box so wide? Is it just me? Do other people see what I'm talking about? Just wondering is all.

No, that's the way it is.
I was wondering that myself, why it's so wide.

jasonh08
03/01/2003, 23:40
Originally posted by Gargantua


No doubt he's got an aewsome sculpt. I'm looking forward to seeing him. Question is, is he more playable than Hobgoblin?

Where is Green Goblin???

weezer_10
03/01/2003, 23:42
Iceman, Gambit, Mandarin, Scorpion and Colossus look $#@*ing sweet!!!!!

Gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme!!!!

Jackalope
03/01/2003, 23:58
Originally posted by Raosun
oops sorry guys, I had him on the site i sent Draddog, I guess he dint turn out in the transfer.

ACK!! There are more pics that arn't here? Anyway you can list that other site so we can see them all?

achorn666
03/02/2003, 00:04
wow.. i cant believe how cool some of these scuplts look..

my favorite is mandarin, apocalypse looks real cool, abomination looks good too, iceman also looks cool...

iron man looks good in person as does crimson dynamo and psylocke...

scorpion, storm, colossus, gambit, and the swat team, police, etc low level units look cool as well...

Jackalope
03/02/2003, 00:08
Just went did a search and saw new figures!

Another HC pic (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3118921502&category=16488)
Experienced Storm is not a flyer? I guess this is from the issues where she lost her powers? Kind of cool! Taskmaster I'm disapointed in. Cool to see Doc Samson also!

Invis-slayer
03/02/2003, 00:32
Sweet stuff!!

Looks like Beasts AV is only 9 tho...as i predicted...but hoped against...=/

bathawk
03/02/2003, 00:33
hmmm if we have a 96 fig set with 28 REV's and 12 uniques, we should still have 3 REV's and 7 uniques left unaccounted for

now a lot of you folks are talking about a taskmaster and green gblin (where are they????) and I still haven't heard anything on weapon X or the new Hulk, but that should still leave six figs left to keep us in suspense

ps. who's the other generic next to the con artist? friends of humanity or somesuch? looks paramilitary

clearshades
03/02/2003, 00:39
Who is the click who is a generic X-man on a flying base? The resolution on my computer is poor enough that I can't figure it out so help would be appreciated.

clearshades

Badges2
03/02/2003, 00:41
OMG!!!

Don't look up xplosion on ebay. Please. You will be horrified. Someone bought 9 boxes and is selling the contents there. The pulled the U Hulk. It's already sold with BuyItNow.

Final cost......drum roll......$100.

Okay, okay. You can buy a booster case for $200 and get at least 4 uniques from the 48 boosters. That is a total of 192 figures and at least 4 are uniques. Since there are only 12 uniques in this set, that is at least a 1 in 3 chance of pulling at least one Hulk. Plus you get 192 figures!

I wish that I could #### money out of my ### just like this guy. I wish that I had the lack of patience to warrant a $100 purchase for one figure that we be in massive supply in a month. I can understand buying Bruce Banner for that, because he is super-hard to come by. But seriously! ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS for a SINGLE FIGURE..??? A figure that everyone will have in two months...??? Oh, the humanity..er..hulkanity!!

I'm sorry about the rant. I guess I'm just a little envious. I wish that I was that seller. The sell of one figure just bought me 24 boosters. SUPER-SWEET! I don't have to choose between lunch and a booster. Yeah!

~edit~ Here is the link if you want a good laugh.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3118909812&category=16488

AshenFang
03/02/2003, 00:48
Actually, no you can't.. not for another 24 days at least. =p

I can't blaim the person myself really, if I were a Hulk fan.. ..and had the spare cash, suppose I would have done the same.. For me, I wish them both happy bidding/selling. I, myself, am looking for a Destiny set if anyone out there would happen to have one and willing to sell it. =p

Not only trying to get some figures early for myself, but so that I can show them to the guys I run Tournies for a bit early.

Gator
03/02/2003, 00:50
I am not paying these prices this soon, but I am drooling waiting for my case of Xplosion! Must have Iceman, Iron Mann and Beast!!!

Drashia
03/02/2003, 00:55
?!


There's that in sync spidey again!!

I wonder when he comes out if he'll have perplex throughout his dial?

(on that ebay page)

hulksmash25
03/02/2003, 01:02
GREAT PICTURES. makes me want to play again. figures look cool

StormMaster
03/02/2003, 01:19
seriously, I was looking at the singles being sold, and all of the buy it now figures were sold to the same person...

That person is crazy...he was buying regular veterans that you'll be able to find easily in a few weeks at 25$+ dollars....

ugh, I dunno what some of these people think, I sorta feel sorry for them (again, only one I'm looking for is vet Storm)

Beta Ray Bill
03/02/2003, 02:13
Originally posted by Psylockeslover



Daredevil.

Was it Daredevil, or was it Elektra, who later raised her from the dead?

I thought Daredevil became involved just defending Elektra?

Maybe I'm wrong...

I want a Punisher..........

Heffaloo
03/02/2003, 02:22
Actually, the Con Artist looks like a stripper I used to know.

JustFrodo
03/02/2003, 03:13
I didn't know whether to drool, cry, or pi$$ so I did all 3 at the same time... wowsers Scoob, this set rocks! Am I only ordering ONE case? what was I thinking?

JustFrodo
03/02/2003, 03:20
BTW I still think the mohawked chick from new Mage Knight set will make a great powerless Storm mod... well, her head at least....

Dalmatio69
03/02/2003, 03:21
Sculpt looks great. His face makes him look a little confused tho. They seem to suck at faces. If his stats are right ( whoever posted his stats ) he is way underpowered i agree. I was expecting at least 200 points. But his stats sound useable, cant decide wether to be happy that ill actually use him or dissapointed he isnt godly.

And the anticipation builds!

Iron Man 49
03/02/2003, 03:28
Could I please get some stats info on my Freedom Force people? I would be very grateful. Much thanks in advance.

Veggiehater
03/02/2003, 03:50
These...sculpts...look...great!!! :D

VH

dman62
03/02/2003, 04:09
This set is awesome. Every fig that I wanted is in this set especially Apocalypse; he's huge I don't care if he sucks I just want the fig. Heck I want all of them. I can't wait until the set comes out!

AxeBomba
03/02/2003, 04:13
...Just "Task" it my friends.
I had the pleasure of going to MegaCon and seeing some of these clix up close but I don't think I'm allowed to say too much. But I will say, that the Taskmaster is easily the "sleeping beast" of this set. It's the new, cool one from his limited series.

If I'm allowed to say a few things, let me know. It's hard to hold all this excitement inside. :)

Grinner
03/02/2003, 04:23
Originally posted by AxeBomba
It's the new, cool one from his limited series.

Well, to you (and others) it may be 'cool,' but I know everyone around here was hoping for the old-school blue & orange costume.

Grinner
03/02/2003, 04:25
Originally posted by jedah_s
#1. taking a peek at the stats, it looks like scorpion, abomination, and silver samurai have yellow on their movement. phasing, funky color on the photos or a new power?

The earlier reply to your question was slightly incorrect.

While Abomination and Scorpion have leap/climb, Silver Samurai does have phasing to represent the teleportation device he uses.

So I guess it's just bad color on the pictures. ;)

xanubisx
03/02/2003, 05:01
I will not rest until I have that taskmaster figure

AshenFang
03/02/2003, 05:02
Originally posted by Iron Man 49
Could I please get some stats info on my Freedom Force people? I would be very grateful. Much thanks in advance.

They can both be found up on the "Warriors" section at the top menu..

Destiny has 0 attack and 0 damage, for powers she has Prob. Control and Super Senses.

Mystique, instead of giving her the slightly gimped shape change power, I believe she got Stealth and Perplex. ..she also gets Energy Explosion on down the dial for her weapons..

PantherPriest
03/02/2003, 05:21
I believe that a certain black panther fan claimed to a certain sluggo that colossus would have a click of nothing to represent steeling up.

HA

Ponchot
03/02/2003, 06:08
Hello,
This is my first post / new member.
I call this Xplosion night! Ive been surfing for
hours looking at the pictures and reading all the
news, what a great time! Thanks Wizkids.

Iceman is great / so glad theyre using the clear plastic again.
Mandarin couldnt look better / 1st robe with this look
Storm / I love non flying Experienced (Uncanny X-men 185/186)
Con Artist / hilarious
Kitty Pride / wish they could have her partially phased through flying base

? Only one figure Im not sure of: Is Mastermind a unique ?

Iron Man 49
03/02/2003, 06:11
Much thanks to Rao, And thanks to Ashen for pointing that out to me reguarding the Warriors section.

NOW MY THREE HUNDRED POINT FREEDOM FORCE SQUAD IS COMPLETE!! THE WORLD IS MINE!!!
Pyro 42
Blob 51
Mystique 51
Destiny 29
Spiral 56
Avalanche 32
Add a few Generics, and Viola! Instant Government superteam!

bubba242
03/02/2003, 08:39
Mandarin !Oooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!
Swat teams ! Eeeeepppp!
Collosus! Ahhhhhh!

Wait a minute......

NINJA ! WE HAVE NINJA ! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhh!

jedah_s
03/02/2003, 08:51
Originally posted by Grinner


Well, to you (and others) it may be 'cool,' but I know everyone around here was hoping for the old-school blue & orange costume.

well i don't know about everyone else.
i just wanted a taskmaster, and i figured he wouldn't be made.
either version would have been fine with me.
the new version got made, and that makes me a happy camper.

HeroComplex
03/02/2003, 09:11
Originally posted by AxeBomba
...Just "Task" it my friends.
I had the pleasure of going to MegaCon and seeing some of these clix up close but I don't think I'm allowed to say too much. But I will say, that the Taskmaster is easily the "sleeping beast" of this set. It's the new, cool one from his limited series.

If I'm allowed to say a few things, let me know. It's hard to hold all this excitement inside. :) Everything sold at MegaCon is legitimate, so spill whatever beans you've got!

FlatFootedBoy
03/02/2003, 09:14
Old-School Blue and Orange?

I don't know about you, but it's hard to stealth while wearing contrasting colors!
And I take how everyone looks by how they look like in the Directory to the Marvel Universe. So Taskmaster is white.


ninja...

Leviathon
03/02/2003, 09:39
I did a quick search by bidder and found that one person - sabrettoth75 - bought out 6 auctions (32 figs) for a total of 230 dollars.

Thats an average of 7.18$ per figure. Wish I could aford to do that now, rather than wait three weeks to get them in regular boosters.

X-Fan
03/02/2003, 10:00
For a complete (albeit unofficial) checklist, hit the link in my sig!

FlatFootedBoy
03/02/2003, 10:05
hhmmm? I don't understand

jasonh08
03/02/2003, 10:11
Green Goblin??? Where did I miss it?

I have to see it please pm with the link or post it here.

Gator
03/02/2003, 10:20
Just looked at the reported stats for V Abomination. He is a beast for just 100 points, 4 damage and an attack of 10 on his first click!

Gargantua
03/02/2003, 10:53
I'm a little surprised that V Doc Samson's going to cost 102, while V Abomination's only going to be 100. As I remember him, Samson was a fairly low-powered hero. Some super-strength, but not on a level with Hulk or Abomination, or even the Thing, and probably more of a Toughness-level resistance than Invulnerability. Then again I haven't read the Hulk in a long time, so he may have gotten powered up. Granted he does have the intelligence thing going for him, which it's nice to see counts for something, giving him Perplex.

Still I was expecting Doc to be more in the 50-60 point range, kind of a cheap SS for a couple of clicks character like Aquaman, rather than a real powerhouse.

cephy
03/02/2003, 11:09
Dude.....I think I just pissed myself. Those sculpts look awesome! (Well, most of em anyways) But....confused, mainly because I can't read the base at that angle- but who were the lower two sculpts?
Nice looking iceman though- good god.... this set is gonna fly off those shelves!

Cephy

Rufio
03/02/2003, 11:43
Was there any word of a support figure?(clicks his heals and wishes for Fing Fang Foom)

jjs-thump
03/02/2003, 11:50
Badges2, I bought it because I can,I also bought the two CT LE5 blastaar and black widow because I can. Thats why I have 47 out of 54 LE'S.When I want something I get.Sorry if some people cant understand that.Leviathon you spelled the ebay name wrong BTW.Oh One more thing I buy case's for cost. but I like to be first on block with new toys.besides I always put the new figs in a store I play in to help bump there sells.

CarlosMucha
03/02/2003, 11:59
why Storm can fly?? is the Storm with hair "Punk" i see the figure she cant range!
And for last, plase teel me, it is the Storm of Byrne/Claremont time or is after or before (in what year/s she cant fly???

Thanks!

Carlos

Noman
03/02/2003, 12:14
Storm lost her powers in The Uncanny X Men 185, Sept 1984.

She was accidently shot with Forge's Zap gun while trying to save Rogue from Gyrich. Rogue had temporarily "absorbed" Storms powers with Storm's permision at the time. As she was incompetant at using them, Gyrich was winning until Storm came round and flew in to save the day, getting zapped by the power-nullifying-gun, by Gyrich, by accident.

She already had her Punk Mohawk look at this point.

The issue was called "Rogue, Public Enemy", and was written by Chris Claremont and drawn by John Romita Jr and Dan Green. Ann Nocenti was Editor.

Forge's zap gun was revealed to be an early version of ROM's neutralizer, which intoduced the Wraiths into the storyline.

Go figure.

All the Best

Noman

FlatFootedBoy
03/02/2003, 12:22
IN short, Forge's gun blasted her powers away.


Also, I want all of them!

Taskmastertaskmastertaskmastertaskmastertaskmastertaskmaster!

Fing Fang Foom or Giant Man? Or Mephisto!

VandalSavage
03/02/2003, 12:39
Originally posted by Grinner


Well, to you (and others) it may be 'cool,' but I know everyone around here was hoping for the old-school blue & orange costume.


I was also hoping for his Original Costume....I'm happy to have one, but I might have to get a friend to make a custom R/E/V of him.

Mr. Savage

Grinner
03/02/2003, 12:40
Originally posted by jedah_s
well i don't know about everyone else.
i just wanted a taskmaster, and i figured he wouldn't be made.
either version would have been fine with me.
the new version got made, and that makes me a happy camper.

No arguments on that ;) I am totally jacked to finally get Taskmaster, and the stats I've seen are pretty sweet too.

I'll just find someone to repaint or mod the figure. Just like I'm going to try to find a way to get a Mohawk Storm for my experienced base.

Victor V.D.
03/02/2003, 12:45
Man, I figured that the set would be being released since
we're seeing almost everything, but I keep hearing 3 weeks.
Anybody know for sure?

They've even put the figs up in the collection tracker...surely
they're going to release them shortly!?

Thunderbolts
03/02/2003, 12:46
*I will not rest until I have that taskmaster figure*

And I won't rest until I've pried it off the base and thrown it in the bin. It sucks. Poor Tasky.

Dr. Von Doom
03/02/2003, 12:57
Doom has never been more shocked or more stunned by sheer beauty in his life.

Were it not that Mandarin is an idiot Doom would be drooling over his sculpt. Also, that Apocalypse simpleton appears to finally be here, and his sculpt looks kick-###! Abomination is brilliant and Doom simply cannot take his eyes off Colossus. So now we finally know who the arch-enemy of Iron Man(who is also a beauty, but we knew that) is! The generics are very sweet(especially the con artist. Doom would say rrrroowwr, but rrrroowwrs are for lesser men!)

They are so beautiful....and so far in the future....Doom is lost for words(Dr. Doom collapses in sobs, but suddenly straightens).

ERROR! ERROR! TEARS ARE FOR LESSER MEN! ERROR!

(the REAL Dr. Von Doom steps up)

Foolish doombot! Doom shall punish you for your incompetence on commenting on those figures. None of them are as good as Doom's sculpt! None...(Dr. Doom is struck dumb as he gazes at the figures.) Doom is better....no...yes...

DOOM WANTS HIS MO...er...SO SAYS DOOM!

Dr. Von Doom

Orpheus
03/02/2003, 13:34
Sauron isn't Brotherhood ?! :-( I'm SOOOOOO disappointed !! Me who would thought I could have one more Bro flyer...

Some of the others are great. Small figures with Perplex is good. Deathbird is bound to be a serious concurrent for Firelord ; Elektra U rocks ; so many nice-looking figs, new power combinations...

Can't wait !!

But Sauron... :-(

Orpheus

Noman
03/02/2003, 13:36
Release date is still 25th of March.

Any Xplosion figures you see before then are an administrative error...or an hallucination...or a good way of making money on ebay...or a reason to go HA ! at your friends...

All the Best

Noman

PantherPriest
03/02/2003, 13:37
check out psyloke, she isn't nearly as ugly

Nightcrawler87
03/02/2003, 14:03
Dude, that is freakin awesome!, but who's the arch enemy of the hand? pretty cool though that the whole team is an arch enemy.

TheFallenOne
03/02/2003, 14:45
I just gotta agree. totally kick butt, thanks for the pictures. Those hand look amazing and will be a blast to play. Im dissapointed to see yet another medic though. I must say that all the figs look great and it seems with people like the mandarin and ironman the tournament scene will really open up as far as diversity in teams. wow 12 range and 3 damage, thats a threat i dont want to have to fight against. Sweet sweet con artist, cheap perplex, amazing, no more LE dr. doom and doctor octopus eating up my points, and shes generic so i wont feel bad have 3-4 of them on my team. finally my sentinel might actually be able to beat someone. sweet. MUST GO ORDER CASE OF XPLOSION!

stormphoenix
03/02/2003, 15:00
i'm surprised at a lot of the choices, slightly disappointed by the exclusion of namor and archangel, but this set looks to be as fun as CT....i'm looking forward to playing this set ...

cephy
03/02/2003, 15:17
Originally posted by jedah_s
three quick questions.
#1. taking a peek at the stats, it looks like scorpion, abomination, and silver samurai have yellow on their movement. phasing, funky color on the photos or a new power?
#2 con artist picture.... i see an archenemy base in the back ground... ideas?
#3 since these are up, has the pineapple ban been lifted?
incredible iceman
cool looking figs overall
can't wait to play an all ninja squad :)

I think it's Leap/Climb- it's the only thing that makes sense with the characters, so therefore- weird color on the dig camera...

Cephy

DraXXXen
03/02/2003, 15:21
Silver Samurai has Phasing, he does it all the time in the comics. Its just bad contrast in the photo's.

ShortyNoGood
03/02/2003, 15:55
Originally posted by Nightcrawler87
who's the arch enemy of the hand? pretty cool though that the whole team is an arch enemy.

Daredevil

Orpheus
03/02/2003, 16:02
Originally posted by TheFallenOne
I just gotta agree. totally kick butt, thanks for the pictures. Those hand look amazing and will be a blast to play. Im dissapointed to see yet another medic though. I must say that all the figs look great and it seems with people like the mandarin and ironman the tournament scene will really open up as far as diversity in teams. wow 12 range and 3 damage, thats a threat i dont want to have to fight against. Sweet sweet con artist, cheap perplex, amazing, no more LE dr. doom and doctor octopus eating up my points, and shes generic so i wont feel bad have 3-4 of them on my team. finally my sentinel might actually be able to beat someone. sweet. MUST GO ORDER CASE OF XPLOSION!

Doc Oc is still a pretty good figure. Just compare him with Mystique. She is stealthy, which is good ; he has Willpower, which is great ! This guy will act often, from a distance, boost himself or another team member, has great stats, all of that for 66 pts... Ain't he great ?

And don't entertain any silly hopes : yours Sentinels will still be useless !! ;-)

Oh, and I just saw the stats to Colossus, the guy is SO big !!! The Expert version, for 95, is better than She-Hulk E (110) once he has clicked himself... What a treat !!

Orpheus

P.S. : can people actually stop asking - or answering - who the Hand's against and read the rest of the thread instead ?

madmardigan
03/02/2003, 16:44
The guy that bought all those figures is none other than our own beloved Darth_Sabre. I'm glad you got the money to spend on all those and I wish I could do the same no doubt (because those figs are awesome) but why in blue hell would you spend that much money on those figures when you get an entire case for what you spent? The set will be out by the end of the month.....come on guys have a little patience.

WarHULK
03/02/2003, 17:15
Hey, I applaud the guy. I'd do the same if I had tons of extra cash to burn, especially to get that Hulk U. Heck, I'd have the Bruce Banner, Victor Creed, Ant-man, Yellowjacket, and Aurther Curry LEs too if I had money to burn lol. Alas, I am stuck at poor and in college for the time being. Hopefully I'll still be able to find a Bruce Banner and Victor Creed once I've got a great job and all.

shin-goji
03/02/2003, 18:10
Looks like some great sculpts and paint jobs.

jasonh08
03/02/2003, 18:27
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jhenline4/GreenGoblin/Green.jpg

Orpheus
03/02/2003, 18:38
Is THAT supposed to be the Green (?!) Goblin ??

And whoever it is, can you get the stats ?

(edit :) Just saw the Goblin's stats (they have added new ones to the Warriors list). Man, he's GOOD !!! A lot like a better Doc Oc (with less good stats)... But why the heck does he have Super Strength ???

Just don't see the use of Weapon X (read "ten") aside from having a great-looking Wolvie fig, though...

And where can we see the Taskmaster ?

Orpheus

FlashFIRE
03/02/2003, 18:50
that looks like ultimate green goblin....

but those words look a lil long for "green" on the base...

but then.. he's an arch enemy of spidey...

just didn't think they'd make the ultimate character's so fast..

Noman
03/02/2003, 19:04
Need a better pic, but i'd say that may say

Ultimate Green Goblin

on the base.

If so, that will be how they name all the Ultimate figs - that way their names are not identical with their real Universe counterparts - with all that that implies...

All the Best

Noman

Ian_Cormack
03/02/2003, 19:05
that IS ultimate green goblin and appears to be to arch enemy of spidey so that gives it away

the itsy bit
03/02/2003, 19:22
the Ultimate goblin, another Unique which I don't need.
that (ultimate) sculpt is so bad.

listen up WK: I want the REAL Green Goblin !!

X-Fan
03/02/2003, 19:54
Originally posted by Noman
Need a better pic, but i'd say that may say

Ultimate Green Goblin

on the base.

If so, that will be how they name all the Ultimate figs - that way their names are not identical with their real Universe counterparts - with all that that implies...

From pics I've seen, and from what I've been told, it's just Green Goblin, no Ultimate at all.

satch
03/02/2003, 19:56
Check Iceman figure, now check Green Lantern Promo. Now take out ice bridge under Iceman, and imagine it's green. <p>

Yep, it's same figure. A cheap lovely promo with same sculpt. I love them anyway

Captain K.
03/02/2003, 19:59
My predictions for this set:

You will all become sick of hearing the phrase "I push my Con Artist." Also, "I want to 'push' my Con Artist."

Mandarin will be in a *lot* of armies. Mind Control from 12 spaces away, and four front-loaded clicks of Outwit? Just give him a couple of Hydras to boost his ranged attack and he's devastating.

Speaking of Hydra, I foresee lots of Red Skull/Viper combos wiping out entire armies one click at a time.

Man, my beloved Fantastic Four is looking kind of puny compared to this new crop of heroes.

WarHULK
03/02/2003, 20:01
Wow, yea, that picture is definately Ultimate Green Goblin alright. I wonder why they decided to do that. Well, I'm glad to have a Green Goblin either way... but I hope this means we'll see a REV normal Green Goblin eventually. Interesting idea to get into the Ultimate territory indeed. Are we to assume that the new Spidey is, in fact, Ultimate Spider-Man?

daredevil11
03/02/2003, 20:04
Originally posted by X-Fan
For a complete (albeit unofficial) checklist, hit the link in my sig!

Thanks X-Fan, great site, you're a straight up guy. I was actually asleep at the wheel when the list came around and didn't see it.

I'm looking forward to old Doc S, official or not.

Orpheus
03/02/2003, 20:11
Originally posted by Captain K.
My predictions for this set:


Speaking of Hydra, I foresee lots of Red Skull/Viper combos wiping out entire armies one click at a time.



How in hell would they do that ? I used to think Red Skull was lame and useless, but man, Viper is EXTRA-lame !!!

Orpheus

supergoblin
03/02/2003, 20:32
you have no idea the power that is the mastermind poison combo.
each turn you tke a click of damga

Mawhahahaha
Mawhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

bizzaro
03/02/2003, 20:36
I'm so pysched to ninja running rampant in this set ...now we can ll just hope that The TICK is in INDY clix ....

Iron Man 49
03/02/2003, 20:42
Ah...Iron man. A nearly Complete Freedom Force. Ah. Manadrin. Goblin...ULTIMATE! This set has something for everyone. Maybe now my mutie loving friend can quit their witching. Everybody bask in the Clixy goodness. Btw...that Iceman looks like its made of the same plastic as the action figure that used to explode. :)

JonL
03/02/2003, 20:47
Don't be silly! Of course the Iceman sculpt and the Green Lantern sculpt aren't the same! They're from different universes, go through different approvals, and are done by different scultors. Wait until you see a better picture of GL.

Iceman and Green Lantern the same...that's just dumb. Don't start silly rumors based on your own suppositions.

Jon Leitheusser
HeroClix Game Designer
WizKids

WarHULK
03/02/2003, 20:54
I too am looking forward to using teams of Hand ninjas. I'm thinking I might combind Ninja and SWAT forces (hey, it could happen) to get a pretty mean fighting force giving + AT and + Damage... I never could bring myself to mixing the normal Hydra and SHIELD members like that.

I'm also thinking a squad lead by Mandarin, Psylocke, and Taskmaster Vs. the new vet. Daredevil, U Spidey, IC U Elektra, and afew others would be fun stuff. Maybe throw Silver Samurai in with the good guys since Samurais and Ninjas never get along all that well... hmmm...

Thanosied
03/02/2003, 20:58
Did Jon L just call his fan base dumb? Wow good PR. I don't expect him to be around very long if anyone on the top here's those comments. Personally I like a little attitude and have to agree but aren't the people in charge suppose to be all like nice and thankful and say things like " have fun" and "good luck", as lame as those things are. But I hope he doesn't get caned because the "NEW GAME" of HC looks alot more challenging :). Perplex is almost a free skill in the prostitutes and everyone has a full dial of some skill. But Jon L does have a point, don't start rumors just because 2 figures look exactly alike even though they do.

Thanos is still the man.....

Groo
03/02/2003, 21:04
To be honest I agreed wih Jon. The two don't look the same to me.

I'm just stoked with the X-plosion list myself. Shadowcat with Lockheed, couldn't have been more what I wanted. Cheap X-Men figures to make an X-Men team so much more viable, and cheap X-Men flyers to boot.

Other
03/02/2003, 21:16
i hope that the new gambet is a good figure,because he is my favortie x-men character

Danos
03/02/2003, 21:33
Overall, How was the MegaCon? See any great celebs? Any of them have a bad attitude?

skyounkin
03/02/2003, 21:41
Most look cool but once again they have overloaded them selves with pointless characters!!! Con Artist?!!! Yeah I see that one coming out often.....
Yeah Colossus!!!!!

JonL
03/02/2003, 22:07
Thanoseid:

Of course I didn't call the HeroClix fans dumb, you dummy. ;) After all they all have the good sense to play the game and be comic books fans -- THE single most underrated form of literature in the world.

What I called dumb was thinking that WizKids could ever even begin to possibly think about using a sculpt from one universe to represent a character from another. That's dumb.

Best,

Jon Leitheusser
HeroClix Game Designer
WizKids

Raosun
03/02/2003, 22:18
Personally the ultimate moment of Megacon was when I was just walking around and stopped at a booth to check out what heroclix the dealer had.

there were a couple people next to me and I looked up and it was ( I appologize if this is miss spelled ) WALTER KEONING A.K.A CHEKOV from the original Star Trek show.

Hes a big fan and collector of heroclix.
Man that was so cool. And he was taking a break to snag up a few Xplosion figs he saw.

God that was so cool.

WarHULK
03/02/2003, 22:22
Noy only one of the most underrated forms of literature in the world, but also one of the most underrated forms of art in our society. Some amazing writers and artists work on these things which the majority of our society look down upon as something for children... it's a true shame indeed...

Gargantua
03/02/2003, 22:27
Hee. Walter Koenig collects Heroclix. That is just too cool.

Now on the Green Goblin. Don't get me wrong, I like the look of the sculpt. It's a good looking figure. But it ain't waht I think of when I think Green Goblin. Maybe I'm just old-fashioned. Maybe I'm just old. But I would have really preferred to see the classic Goblin look. Didn't much care for how they did him in the Spider-Man movie either.

Why must people mess with a good thing?

Johnny Blaze01
03/02/2003, 22:46
Boom Boom, Meltdown are some other figs. Yeah E-bay is just nuts on prices wish I could of went to MegaCon in Fla. Stuck in cold New York though.

Iceman looks great. Cant wait to get my hands on them. WizKids keeps on getting better and better.

spidey2099
03/02/2003, 22:52
Yay gobby! That is my favorite version of him. The one that actually looks like a goblin!

Grinner
03/02/2003, 22:59
Originally posted by bizzaro
I'm so pysched to ninja running rampant in this set ...now we can ll just hope that The TICK is in INDY clix ....

If he isn't I think I'm using Doc Sampson for him.

Gargantua
03/02/2003, 23:01
Boom Boom, Meltdown are some other figs. Yeah E-bay is just nuts on prices wish I could of went to MegaCon in Fla. Stuck in cold New York though.

By the sound of it, you could have recouped your travel expenses with the contents of one or two boosters on E-Bay.

Hmm. May have to plan on that next year.

colossusfreak1
03/02/2003, 23:10
I cant tell who the guy with the yellow base is. Who's his archenemy??

scowlingone
03/02/2003, 23:10
Originally posted by Thanosied
don't start rumors just because 2 figures look exactly alike even though they do.

I'm just wondering -- how did you get the braille put on the dials of your figures? I mean: I assume that you did, since you're obviously blind.

Psylockeslover
03/02/2003, 23:11
Yellow base is Iron Man/Mandarin.

WytchKnight
03/02/2003, 23:14
Someone posted Abominations attack value at a 10... the photo im looking at the experienced is showing an attack of 12 (green). Anyone have this fig?

colossusfreak1
03/02/2003, 23:14
God i feel stupid i just saw the Iron Man and I couldn't see the manderin guy's name.

nacnac
03/02/2003, 23:24
Did anyone get a glance of the leader? if so which version is he?

Raosun
03/02/2003, 23:28
The Exp abomination is a 10, holding him in my hands now, the leader is not the straight long head version, but rather the one that has the 2 bumped head thing going on.

1138
03/02/2003, 23:30
Originally posted by JonL

What I called dumb was thinking that WizKids could ever even begin to possibly think about using a sculpt from one universe to represent a character from another. That's dumb.

I have no personal beef here. But, based on the condescending attitude, I'd just like to respond. I'd even forgive the condescending attitude if it weren't for the fact that Wizkids does similar stuff all the time.

Gee, you'd think for $20, we'd maybe get some new rules with Sinestro. Oh, nope. Just a cut and paste job of the Sentinel rules.

You'd think we could get score sheets for Heroclix tournaments that didn't refer to the Judge as a Warlord.

How long was it that offical documents for Heroclix on the web site had references to Mage Knight game aspects? What does it say when one is lazy enough to do a cut an dpaste job and then can't even be bothered to fix the tiniest of differences required?

All I'm saying is that you don't have to be so resentful and spiteful of somebody speculating that Wizkids might have done something that they already do a lot of. But guess what? I'm not going to get insultive about it.

CarlosMucha
03/02/2003, 23:48
(sorry for my bad english, is no my 1st leaguage)

JonL, 1st congratulations (after mi desapoinest):

Congratulations for the stats of Spider-man Unique, its just perfect. Really. Thats is Spider-man, amazing.

Ok now my disapoiments: I have a lot (Beast no Avenger mmmmgggrrr)
1) why Hulk dont have Batle flury? please dont tell me "only for the game", I think the character must be the character, no must be "only for the game".

2) Please tell me if you think is Kingdom Come Superman for Unique, or no way ever?

For the Gren Lantern Iceman, is a stupid question, please people! is no the same figure! mmmm, ann JonL ...
3) Tell me what you think about 1 character with phasing can carreon 1 charracter without phasing, mmmm is nice for the game but is no real, Vision, Shadowcat, Green Lanter! (when GL have phasing anyway???) this people can make another people have phasing, only i agree in the case of a magic Character like Dr Stranger (and DR Fate in DC).
What do you think.

Really thanks for your time JonL.

Carlos

Melkoloran
03/02/2003, 23:49
Iceman looks fantastic, but what is with that Storm sculpt?

WarHULK
03/02/2003, 23:57
Well Carlos, I can answer your question about phasers. Vision and Shadowcat can phase others with them. Vision has the ability to change a certain amount of mass when he goes intangable. Shadowcat has somewhat the same ability but to a lower degree. She phases her teammates quite often. The trick is that she and her fare cannot breathe while intangable so they have to hold their breath in the comics. Apocolypse had phasing but it's more like a simulation of teleportation.

Thanosied
03/02/2003, 23:59
No need to explain thoroughly, I am not American. Look at the symbol in the bottom corner... It means I understand, and I am not completely ignorant. I had a full look over those posted figures and had a loud, hard chuckle. Wow!! When did Doc Samson take over as resident power house in marvel? When did Gambit get so freakin' good? And why can't Iceman even defeat his own ice sculptures? These are questions I would like answers to. I mean, what is going on? I knew Jon L. was making a new game with X-plosion but holy ####. So I guess I will be looking forward to the next set; where Jon has all his favorite characters undercosted and overpowered and all the truely powerful characters are the weakest and shadows of their former selves. Hopefully in the following sets, Jon's favorite characters will coincide with mine, so then I will finally be able to use a character that corresponds to the comic universe. Oh, I may have to repeat that I have won like, 20 tournies in a row so I think I am at the least, 1000000000 times better than the playtesters they have at Wizkids. Maybe the game designers are the ones at fault for not actually listening to their own playtesters. Sorry, I may be sounding very, very harsh but come on, people have to be a little aware of some simple game mechanics.....

p.s. Warning Please.

CarlosMucha
03/03/2003, 00:06
Thanks War Hulk, i was ignored that, thanks.

Any way, the others questions, stell we have for JonL


Carlos

Magnito
03/03/2003, 00:12
Is the relise date tuesday the 25 or wednesday the 26, cause I heard 25 but isn't it ususly on wednesdays?

hemlock
03/03/2003, 00:27
Thanosied I agree with you. Characters should be what they are in the comics and not just to benefit the "game" play. If Gambit's stats are correct to what is posted on this site, how did he get to be better then Rogue. On the subject of Spiderman, at least he is accurate. It only took them a set of r/e/v, a promotional, and unique. Mind you, Black Costume should not not have defend, and no spiderman team ablity since he was on his own at the time. Jon L, I know you are trying but I have a feeling you need to communicate with the play-testers more. Finally one more problem. Iceman sculpture is amazing, to bad his stats don't match (again if correct), even Boom-Boom can do more a natural 2. Scorpion with 8 range, hmmmmm, Firelord is a cosmic being and has the same. Look Scorpion can shoot the poison from his tail into space. Awesome.

Iron Man 49
03/03/2003, 00:31
Originally posted by Thanosied
No need to explain thoroughly, I am not American. Look at the symbol in the bottom corner... It means I understand, and I am not completely ignorant.

Ahem. Kindly stick your condescending attitude up your backside. Do not flame my country. Last I checked..wasnt this game made in the Good Ole USA? Yay Seattle.

Thanosied
03/03/2003, 00:37
All I know is no one can bully me into aiding them in death...

scowlingone
03/03/2003, 00:38
Hmm.

No, I think it's made in China, and I'm pretty sure that Tim Prow isn't the only non-American on the team.

It's a group effort.

Yay, Thanosied -- you just made my buddy list.

Thanosied
03/03/2003, 00:38
I guess that last one will probably get me another warning.D amn sucks to speak the truth.

Iron Man 49
03/03/2003, 00:43
Aiding Us? If we were relying on Canada's military aide..I would be worried. Go invade Dieppe again Junior. Do not even attempt to turn this into a political discussion. Its' a frigging game. You take a pt shot at my Country..I will not stand idly by. Hate to break it to you, but there's plenty of folks who are proud to be Americans. And this country truely is "The Strongest one there is."

Manchine
03/03/2003, 00:55
Some people think they know it all (thanosied) and dont know jack. All he does is continue to show his ignorance on matters he knows nothing about.

Raosun
03/03/2003, 00:58
Guys please try to keep it on subject, No political debats on country insulting, wait till Crimson Skies for that okay?

Anyone get the Unique Deathstrike or Weapon X?

Iron Man 49
03/03/2003, 01:03
Sorry about that. I am very proud of my country, tis my nature.
In Heroclix Fashion, I believe Freedom Force Team could lay the smackdown on Alpha Flight.

Anyhow...I would love to see a pic of Leader if anyone's been lucky or...Deathstrike. Any sculpts not posted on the site worth seeing?

Manchine
03/03/2003, 01:03
Yep both are in the warriors section already. I think we are missing Mr. Sinister.

Raosun
03/03/2003, 01:05
From what I've got and what was on display I dont remeber Mr. Sinister or Mastermind in this set.

Iron Man 49
03/03/2003, 01:05
Sinister is in this set? No freakin way. I never saw that anywhere. Not on either list I have.

CarlosMucha
03/03/2003, 01:05
My Friend Rene got Weapon X but he trade for Spider-man Unique (I agree with the trade for the character and the game)


Carlos

Thanosied
03/03/2003, 01:06
Thought I might as well bring up the fact that Savage Hulk has no Battle Fury and no Charge. Iceman licks balls( good fig design). Apocalypse should have outwit. Especially before Perplex. Iron Man should have a greatly increased attack rating on all his R/E/V he has targetting devices in his armor for gods sake. Weapon X shouldn't die in 6 clicks. Con Artist shouldn't be able to do 2 damage on a click and less she is tested at the local clinic first. Paramedic? Needs no explanation(way too powerful). Mystique also Outwit before Perplex. V Doc Samson I am the end of the world for 300+ constructed armies. Scorpion V 8 range? WTF? V Crimson Dynamo in any kind of sealed format = I win. V Beast just stupid. E and V Gambit? Are all X-Men like at 100x there real power except Iceman and Wolverine(not IC Wolverine which was like Jon L has said in the past, before his time). Elektra unique just a joke. Wow Deathbird is hard to hit LOL, must be those wings she borrowed from the Vulture. Well I guess thats it, until next time TRUTH believers...

WarHULK
03/03/2003, 01:07
No, he's not in the set, just some wishful thinking from Manchine heh

scowlingone
03/03/2003, 01:09
Originally posted by Manchine
Some people think they know it all (thanosied) and dont know jack. All he does is continue to show his ignorance on matters he knows nothing about.

I recall your adamant insistence that the Pineapple was wrong.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Castiglione
03/03/2003, 01:09
Originally posted by Raosun
WALTER KEONING A.K.A CHEKOV from the original Star Trek show.

Surely you mean Walter Koening AKA Bester from Babaylon 5, don't you?
*S*

Neat to hear he's a fan of the clix tho!

Manchine
03/03/2003, 01:10
Dang I forgot it wasnt on the Pineapple. Oh well, my brain not working at 100% today.

scowlingone

I never listen to rumors. Makes things a lot easier. :D :D

Pineapple is still wrong :D :D ;) ;)

JonL
03/03/2003, 01:20
Your suppositions are hilarious. I don't know where you heard that I was making a whole new game with the Xplosion set, but you heard wrong. No such thing is happening, all I'm doing is adding characters to the mix.

All of the characters are made the same way and if they're undercosted, then they're all undercosted, it has nothing to do with me. Nothing has changed in the way we figure the costs.

As for Gambit, personally, I don't like the character, never have, so I made him the way he is in the books. I tried really hard to make him reflect the character in the books. Iceman on the other hand I like, just becuase he's been powered up in the past couple of years doesn't mean he's always been that way, I think he's accurately represented. Scorpion has a long range because at one point in the comics he had some kind of blaster in his tail.

I've said it before and I'll repeat it for you; I don't get to pick all the characters. It's a group effort. If my favorite characters were the only ones you found in the sets, well, you'd be seeing very different sets.

Our playtesters do a lot of work for us. If you don't think they do it well enough, then volunteer to do it yourself -- but it's work, not just fun.

I have to make choices with every character I do. The characters are drawn straight from the comics, but sometimes I have to make choices based on gameplay. I am, after all, making gamepieces and because of that some design aspects enter the picture. For instance, one click of a power (unless it's on the first click) is generally pretty useless because you have a high liklihood of skipping right over it when the figure takes damage, so I don't do it. Typically powers appear in at least two clicks in a row.

I'm sorry you're not happy with what you've seen so far with regards to Xplosion -- or the other sets apparently. Maybe I'll get it right someday and I'll hear nice words come from your computer.

Best,

Jon Leitheusser
HeroClix Game Designer
WizKids

P.S.: Carlos, there are different versions of the Hulk and he changes based on the version I'm doing. It's possible we'll do a Kingdom Come Superman, but we have no plans to at the moment.

Thanosied
03/03/2003, 01:22
What do I know nothing about, ignorance? I am the biggest fish in the pond so I have to prove my strength? Thats pretty funny but I hope he wasn't talking about this game because if I played you, I would have to give a 200 point handycap then you MIGHT have a shot at the win. But I would probably need at least 3 snake eyes in the game for that to happen. There is a strategic point to this game even if some cannot see that.

MarkStewart
03/03/2003, 01:24
Hey Jon, your post makes it sound like nobody's happy with the new set, which isn't true, I like it a lot. Well done and keep it up.

Manchine
03/03/2003, 01:33
Haha Thanosied. If you think your better then playtesters that you have never met. Thats what makes your Ignorance. I dont play for the win. If I did the game would become very old very fast. I play to have fun not to win. Your already at a handicap if your just worried about the win.

Keep up the good work Jon.

Thanosied
03/03/2003, 01:49
Thats the message I expected to hear originally. I didn't need the long explanation but it will help others. The Iceman as you must know should have on his E and V a click or 2 of toughness, than barrier and should at least do 4 damage 2+RCE on his V version. But come on you can't legitimise V Doc Samson and the Paramedic. Volunteer for HC, I will send the Email right now. So expect a response. You need only send me the proposed pieces for each set and I know what work is :). I have to give a congrats to the making of Mandarin he is a great figure construct and is accurately portrayed. SpiderMan as well but I would have gave him a few extra points maybe 85 or 90. I would revamp some versions of certain characters. I have X-Factor comics 1-69 and I know what Beast and Iceman are capable of and Iceman is a great tool on the team. EE would represent ice bolders, shards of ice, ice balls, 100 foot wide Ice slabs that he drops on people from time to time. Even 2 or 3 clicks at the end of his V dial of Phasing because when he gets in trouble he makes a duplicate copy of himself and surprises opponents. These are just ideas that it seems from what I have seen on the warriors list aren't accurately represented. I know you guys are trying but when the idea for the U Elektra came up didn't someone say in the boardroom, " guys and gals, I don't think this will be the greatest idea at this point in time". Maybe when we make Wonder Woman first. Who pretty much should be the model femme fatale for the game. I agree from a marketting standpoint and would even agree to going out and reading these crossover comic titles( no matter how bizarre or far-fetched they are) before I started the playtesting process. I would be a valued member on any team, if the ideas are there. I will also ask the 4 members whom I play with regularly to submit Volunteer lists. They are very competant players and they are the only players who have ever defeated me in 5 months of tournament play. Thanks again Thanosied

CarlosMucha
03/03/2003, 01:50
I love this game, I love the Comics, I love this Characteres, Its my dream come true, and maybe is beacause that somethigs dont like of the decitions of JonL but I see what hard he work, he are here!, and that I think is beacause he love this Characteres too.

Long Live to Xplosion, very good set.

(mmm Superman Kingdom Come with outwit (the kryptonite its gone of the earth) please!!!!:)

Carlos

Iron Man 49
03/03/2003, 01:52
The people love you. Honest Abe was right with the whole not being able to please all of the peopole all the time thing. Don't let a couple of negative Nancy's who have their panties in a bunch ruin your parade. You do great work, and it's appreciated. I'm just curious, with the trend you set here....is there a likelyhood of more ULTIMATE Figures? and as my handle would suggest..I'm an Iron Man fan. Please bestow upon us a War Machine or Hulkbuster. Great work on this set. The sculpts are pure beauty. They seem very playable, and balanced as far as the A/E thing, which is cool. Thanks, and may some people finally show you some appreciation.

Iron Man 49
03/03/2003, 02:04
Beast has long been one of the under appreciated characters in comics. He's been around for this long for a reason, let him have his day. He can whoop that butt when he has too. As far as Gambit...let me impart some knowledge on you...Mid 90's he was Marvel's horse. He was their big gun. Had spots in every X series and a series of his own. The Cajun deserves to be statted up the wazoo. Samson can throw down as well check out the Gamma people's clashes, he's one bad mofo. Now, Good Old Shellhead...He's gonna whoop that backside isnt he? Good! He's a friggin Avenger for a reason. We need some more playable Fodder pieces so Woot for Paramedic's, Ninjas, sWat ,and Hand. I mean my fave non Freedom force piece in CT was the Vampire Lackey. Hooray for fodder. Mystique and Destiny.... WooT :) Nicely done Jon, they round out Freedom Force nicely with their abilities.
Now that everyone pitched their W itch...Allow me to say...Give Jon a raise. The guy takes time to interact with the fans who play his game, and takes their input, as shown in the figure previews! YOU THE MAN!

Snork
03/03/2003, 02:10
Hey Thanosied, glad to hear your comments. It's about time people around here realized what Heroclix is all about.

Heroclix isn't about having fun, and making friends. It's not about strategy, and using figures you like.
No. It's about being rude to each other, name calling, and insulting each others countries. This isn't a game about fun, it's about finding a forum to insult as many people as you can.

And thanks for putting Jon L in his place. That guy sure is rude. He has the nerve to take time out of his busy schedule to reply to the questions we direct to him. He takes the time to talk to us, and that's just not acceptable. How dare he be nice to us. Take that Jon!

It's nice to finally see somebody with a huge stick up their butt telling it the way they see it.
Good job buddy.

Thanosied
03/03/2003, 02:10
Good post Manchine I have to admit that your right on the assumption of the if I am better than the playtesters thing. But it was coming from the point that they must not have seen some of there faults. Like why get rid of a staple in 300 point marvel teams (She-Hulk) with the creation of a character that does the same thing but can boost allies and is cheaper. That to me erases that character at least from tournament play in general. Sure people will play her in fun teams but the game should try not too erase her from play with inception of a new character.

This goes for the Paramedic too. If I had a Checkmate medic in Marvel I would use it because it would free up 4-5 points that I could use to upgrade the rest of my team. That is why the Paramedic is disgusting. She is 9 less points then the V AIM Medic(which is the most commomly used medic at tournaments in marvel right now).

This post in general is not hacking the game or making people angree or whatever its just the game mechanics. I have tried to explain things before and I got people apoligizing to the site and game designers that don't listen to critisism and there is just a few bad apples. That is the reason for all the recent sarcasm on my part in the last few weeks.

Maybe I am alot more competitive then most but I like to win. Im sorry if that offends some. I also have fun and play teams that have no possible chance of winning for that purpose. But when I go to a tournament and see that I can trade JOE piece for any unique I want or need I see no other reason then to field the best team possible. I would like to conclude this post by saying thanks to everyone past and present that is creating, designing, playing, or even running demos on this game. Your work is appreciated and I am just trying to improve the product with ideas. Thanks again Aaron

Thanosied
03/03/2003, 02:11
LOL :)

JoeyTheButt
03/03/2003, 02:24
dam rookie paramedic is NICE!

too bad we don't have vet stats

Snork
03/03/2003, 02:24
Originally posted by Thanosied
LOL :)

Snark. :) Close enough.

Jon made an interesting point one time. Something along the lines of: Fans whine and complain that this isn't how certain people should be, or this is wrong, and this isn't accurate.
But the people crying that Storm is done wrong because she should have a 10 attack rather than a 9 are the same people carrying Firelord around with Vulture.

So to any people complaining about how accurate the stats are; do you play with accurate teams each and every tournament? Or do you mix characters to make the best possible team? ;)

Manchine
03/03/2003, 02:30
Ahhh now your talking Thanoseid. But not everyone plays like that, best figures. My wife doesnt pick any mean looking figs. Wont even look at She-Hulk or Hulk. Me I use strictly bad guys. I never use good guys. I always seem to lose if I use them. There's different ways to play. I have seen tourneys that you can only pick 2 Factions, no faction counts as a faction. That can put a twist on how you play. Someone just might love human torch, my wife. So that limits her already what teams she can use. Thats is one reason for the mix of people.

We do go to tourneys. I have been to 5 tourneys, my wife has been to 3. So she does play competitively somewhat. We go more to have fun. I have won 3 of them wife has won 2 Fellowship awards.

Veggiehater
03/03/2003, 02:33
Thanoseid,

First off please please break up your posts into paragraphs. It makes it easier for us who are not blessed to be Canadian geniuses to actually read what you are trying to say. Next try to calm down and think without any bias for a while...

Yes, I agree some of the characters aren't perfect. What do you expect. At least they were done very well, especially when you compare them to the pre-Jon L era of Heroclix where characters didn't receive their trademark powers and super undercosted bastiches were all the rage.

Jon L is doing a fab job, characters are beginning to play like they act in the comics for the most part, and there hasn't been a character that screams "I am borken!" since IC.

Now you say that Doc Samson is going to be the equivalent of the second coming or something like that in 300 point play. I personally don't think so. Why you may ask, it's because he does far LESS damage then She Hulk or even Abomination.

He has 1 click of 4 and 2 clicks of 3! Vet She Hulk has 6 clicks @ >2, so does Vet Abom, true that Doc has perplex but there are ways to work around that. I mean the Lord of Spoot does more damage for longer than the Doc and costs around 1/2 - 2/3 of the points and can deal the damage from much further away. Oh, and Samson isn't quite as tough as Shulkie either so they end up playing a bit differently.

As for playtesting I think the fact that no one has complained of any character being too overpowering post IC is a testament to the playtesters doing their job right. Props to them for that and I'm glad that Wizkids isn't content to just let the mistakes of the past continually repeat themselves. Now if only the FAQ would get updated more often with more relevant content then things would be right in the world of HC.

My opinions,
VH

Thanosied
03/03/2003, 03:07
Yeah I received your message and thanks(To Manchine). I know that most people want to hear nice remarks and that everything is swell. But Im looking at the big picture and down the road. Thanks for that post and sorry for some of those comments I made.

I got screwed over many times in Magic long long ago and hate how the gaming business has tainted most store owners. All new players whom seem nice and friendly I help with trading etiquette, game rules and improving there strategies in game and when building a team.

Again I must apologize for my comments before but I hoped people can have at least the ability to critisize some things they like or dislike. I have played in many different types of tournaments(Heavy Hitters, Elevated Buldings, Team Affiliated, Sealed, 200-300 points and a good guys(E Daredevil and up) vs. bad guys(E Kingpin and up) just to name a few.

I have won about 85% of all tournaments I have been in. I have only not received an LE in 3 of 40 tournaments. I only started playing tournaments for the value of those pieces and actually prefer playing 300 mixed teams for fun with friends on Sunday afternoons. I must also say for the sake of fun games we have outlawed all forms of Firelord.

When items get rediculous in value and you need them to trade for pieces you want, getting LE's seems like a great solution. I traded in 1 week 9 LE's for various uniques and nons I wanted/needed.

Where I am from stores will preopen booster packs and LE prizes and exchange pieces inside to collect there own sets. This is when I get pissed off and do what any sensible person would(express my opinion). I have thought since the beginning that there should at least be some kind of plastic wrapping around the boosters to protect this from happening. To think that this is not happening in at least 1-10 retailers in your area is naive(did I say that right?).
(Fight The System).

scowlingone
03/03/2003, 03:14
Originally posted by Thanosied
Where I am from stores will preopen booster packs and LE prizes and exchange pieces inside to collect there own sets. This is when I get pissed off and do what any sensible person would(express my opinion). I have thought since the beginning that there should at least be some kind of plastic wrapping around the boosters to protect this from happening. To think that this is not happening in at least 1-10 retailers in your area is naive(did I say that right?).

The boxes that the prizes come in also contain a shipping list which state which models are in the boxes.

As such, I know for a fact that none of the local stores are trading figures out.

Manchine
03/03/2003, 03:27
Oh I know that there is a lot of nasty people out there. But not everyone is like that. The thing is if you put people in that catagory before you even know. You end up just as bad as they are. I have been screwed over so many times its not funny.

I have done my share of complaining, look for dup's and me and Beastchylde (which we settled). Its just a matter on how you complain. Its a delicate line to walk on to get it just right.

Thanosied
03/03/2003, 03:32
About Doc Samson. In 300 point games longevity isn't that big of an issue but first contact is.

The reasons for this are:
1) character A gets hit for 4, loses invulnerability, then miscellaneous lower cost characters finish them off.
2) Perplex can aid other characters while you sit still or before you move or whenever you want to do anything.
3) The charge of Samson can be increased to 6 squares with his perplex thus giving him a greater chance to pick up an item and hit in the same action(relates to 2 but there are many uses for perplex thought I would just list at least one).
4) Point costs. At 102 you save 18 points enough for a decent character, R Quicksilver, another medic, or even 2 CON ARTISTS. Sure you loose the Avengers team ability of She-Hulk but play in a few 300 point games and you are usually running either/and a leadership character, Brotherhood/Avengers character or several Doombots.
5)First Strike. Samson can do one more damage on the first shot nuff said. If you know the game enough and your trying to knock certain characters you see each week out of the game you should take the time to figure out how much damage they can take.
6) If you know that R(9)/E(9)/V(10) Firelord has a ceratin amount of clicks of life don't get beat by him week in and week out. If you beat him down and someone tries to run away and heal, make sure you get a guy in there to tie up the healer. I can't even tell you guys how many people don't know how much life a character has or has left.
7)Doc Samson's figure at best will look 10 times better than that nasty She-Hulk

Thanosied
03/03/2003, 03:37
But how many people do know that ask to see the shipping order? And you know alot of retailers will have bias against you for asking to see them. But boosters are another issue. I wonder how much more the costs would be for a plastic type wrapping? Jon L can you help us out?

texaswashingto
03/03/2003, 04:06
Know what could've been cool? Flurry + Incap. for 8-10 range for Vet. Iceman. I don't care about Toughness. I mean, that's what Iceman does, he either freezes alot of people, or her REALLY freezes someone so much so that they take damage (which would've been SWEET) but nonetheless I'm loving the set, hoping for a U. Iceman :) and am waiting paiently for my 3/4 of a case!

scowlingone
03/03/2003, 04:26
Originally posted by Thanosied
But how many people do know that ask to see the shipping order? And you know may alot of retailers will have bias against you for asking to see them. But boosters are another issue. I wonder how much more the costs would be for a plastic type wrapping? Jon L can you help us out?

The judges at the venues I play at do not work for the stores, and they always ask to see the shipping list. It's not an issue here.

Veggiehater
03/03/2003, 04:39
Thanoseid,

Nice to see you're relaxed now! ;) I agree with all your points, I was just trying to point out that he (Doc Samson) isn't broken. He is very good no doubt about it. Also if your opponent has first strike on him you'd wish he had that extra longevity. ;)

As far as I can tell he's another tournament viable character. One of the few close combat characters that belong in this group, he even gives you other nice options thanks to his perplex. Honestly I'd still rather face Doc Samson accross the table instead of Dynamo or Spootlord. At least I know my opponent will take a concerted effort to engage me up close. :)

VH

FlashFIRE
03/03/2003, 05:06
how come no one's mentioned sauron?

u guys don't think he's got an amazing combination of stats?

first click sez it all.. 10 charge, 11 b/c/f? 16 toughness, 2dmg
and flying of course..

charging in at 5 speed.. 6 if perplexed once.. then slashing with a big chance of hitting (11 is pretty high)... WHILE taxing a heavy hitter.. ie. doc samson.. lol. only further allowing doc to pick up and object and smack for even MORE clix?

and it's not just the first click.. still is fast.. has b/c/f.. the obvious steal energy.. (and w/ cheap perplex in forms of hookers everywhere... u could steal energy to get back to perfect pretty fast).. toughness the whole way.. and what's this? mind control?? of course he has to have it.. but i mean.. that just tops it off! i use exp controller.. a great value.. even tho 4 range w/ mind control.. but compeltely worth it.. the only prob is that he's really slow.. but sauron here is a flier.. fast.. mind controls... he's got it all!

anyways.. just my opionion about the lizard bird man.. heh. just wanna spark some discussion about potential greaaat pieces..

(remember when Deadpool blew Sauron up? ya.. that was funni... )

Orpheus
03/03/2003, 05:30
Originally posted by Iron Man 49
Aiding Us? If we were relying on Canada's military aide..I would be worried. Go invade Dieppe again Junior. Do not even attempt to turn this into a political discussion. Its' a frigging game. You take a pt shot at my Country..I will not stand idly by. Hate to break it to you, but there's plenty of folks who are proud to be Americans. And this country truely is "The Strongest one there is."

1) The only point where I agree with you : let's not turn this into a political discussion. But you also used pseudo-political arguments, and spoke of military. What is your excuse, that this is a forum about a strategic game ?

2) "Go Invade Dieppe" ?!?! What kind of talk is that ? You really think the only worthy thing the Canadians can do is of military type ? Sure, you don't need any military help, especially when you (your countrymen) invade small countries which weren't a challenge years ago, before the demilitarisation. Do we have to remind you that America never won a real war on the outside, alone, ever ? And seriously : who cares ?! Your country did have better, more intersting achievements than war.

3) You have the right to be proud of your country, sure, as long as it doesn't turn you into a blinded fanatic. But come on, "the strongest there is" ?! What can that mean ? That if every American takes a gun and every Chinaman a knife, the Americans are sure to win ? That you have more bombs than anyone else (not true) ? Come on, these type of sentences do'nt help your case.

If you were offended by this guy's out-of-subject remark, two solutions : tell him "you're OOT and shouldn't say this", and ignore him, or advance real, interesting arguments.

This is not the place to argue about the greatness - or not - of America or any country. If it was, believe me, I would express very thorough opinions on the subject.

Yours,

Orpheus

Veggiehater
03/03/2003, 05:34
Originally posted by FlashFIRE
how come no one's mentioned sauron?

u guys don't think he's got an amazing combination of stats?


Flash,

I agree Sauron is pretty darned good. I forsee that green skinned Pterodactyl seeing quite a lot of play when X-plosion hits the mainstream market.

VH

Orpheus
03/03/2003, 06:03
Originally posted by JonL
All of the characters are made the same way and if they're undercosted, then they're all undercosted, it has nothing to do with me. Nothing has changed in the way we figure the costs.


Hi Jon.

In this case, maybe it's the basic equation (is it on an Excel sheet ?) which may be wrong. From what I've seen yet of the X-P set, I rather like it (and do not find Gambit all that interesting, and hate the character too...). But here are the things I can tell you about CT and XP ; hope they help for the next sets. Anyway, thanks for all the work and the passion you obviously put into it.

1) There are some "team" problems in XP. Yes, why no Avenger Beast (he also was a Champion but no one remembers them, eh ? I'd have thought they would be simulated under Defenders, but then Hercules and Black Widow would have a D version...).
And man, I was SO hoping that Sauron would be a Brotherhood !! He has been part of them, and his first appearance was in the same story as the early Brotherhood ; as the X-Men, they could use one more flyer ! And it isn't like there are too many Bros around... Now, to ammend, you HAVE to make X/Bro versions of Polaris... ;-) (and Mastermind !!).

2) Some powers really should count for less then they do. Pulse Wave used to be useless, and now will only be used to click Colossus, Hawk, Dove and Con Artists (Logan ??). The minion of Doom and Superman Enemy teams are VERY powerful, but still most of these guys are way too expensive to be playable : Doomsday and Ultron are good but expensive, Annihilus is a joke, Brainiac is ugly and overcosted, Doom is great but overcosted...

3) The problem with the previous set, and it seems to a lesser extent, this one, is that too many figures are much less interesting than others. For instance : most of the time, Expert Medics will never get played, because one point difference isn't enough for one click of healing. Some figs in CT have very little use (Hawkeye, Black Widow...) in any version, other are way too big, etc. Result ? We end up buying the boosts only for the Uniques, as we already have most of the interesting Nons (who wants all the versions of the Toad and Blob except total Bros maniacs ?) ; and we end up stopping to buy, which isn't good. When I get to choose my tournament price, I pick IC any time, because there are still a few not-too-bad figs I don't have (or that I didn't want at the time and that new power combinations have proved useful in the end).
So please : try to make every version of every character have something which could make it interesting in some type of teams. I am volunteer for playtesting with local playerbase if need be.

4) Sure, you explained yourself on the logic Vs Playability thing. But some combos just stink, variability or not. RS and RCE stink, Superstrength and CCE stink (except with Charge), etc... I'm sure you can find ways of staying logical and still make more playable figs.

5) SOOOO much Perplex !!!! A little is good, but didn't you overdo it a little ? And still so few Outwit (from what we know as of now)... Who isn't tired of seeing Black Panther at most Marvel Tournaments tables ?

Is there any way we could see those formulas for calculating the costs, and help you working on them ? I'm sure it wouldn't hurt...

Sincerely,

Orpheus

Heimdall
03/03/2003, 06:55
Well everything looks fine, except:

WHY IS SCORPION MEMBER OF THE MASTERS OF EVIL AND NOT SINISTER SYNDICATE?

I was hoping for Rhino, Misterio, Scorpion, Kraven or anyone else from the Syndicate, but no Powerhouse. Outwitter or Perplexer for my favorite team.

Heimdall

P.S.: Must have Mandarin!!!!!!!

StormMaster
03/03/2003, 07:31
The only reason every Con Artist and their mother has perplex is because across the board, Xplosion numbers are average at best. You can guarentee that the perplex you get from Beast and Gambit is going towards the attack values of some of the 9AV X-Men chars on an X-Men team. I'm not complaining about the X-figures we got, I'm actually stoked we got so many popular ones in one expansion.

So the perplex is well stood for, and it makes sense, because the X-Men, in the comics, help out eachother by doing strange things anyway, so the average AVs are made up by the large amount of cheap perplexers...makes sense.

DareDevil-fan
03/03/2003, 12:00
They all look great. But who is the one between Crimson Avenger and Madame Masque? All I can make out is Desti????
If somebody knows, send me a reply.

Basil Elks
03/03/2003, 12:15
I must say, that I want those figures badly now!!

daedalus25
03/03/2003, 13:09
Originally posted by Raosun
Personally the ultimate moment of Megacon was when I was just walking around and stopped at a booth to check out what heroclix the dealer had.

there were a couple people next to me and I looked up and it was ( I appologize if this is miss spelled ) WALTER KEONING A.K.A CHEKOV from the original Star Trek show.

Hes a big fan and collector of heroclix.
Man that was so cool. And he was taking a break to snag up a few Xplosion figs he saw.

God that was so cool.

Ah, you must have been around there the same time I was. I was waiting at Walter Koenig's autograph table as he was just getting back from his break, and in his hands was a Magic: The Gathering box filled with little Heroclix figures. He said he doesn't play the game, but loves to collect the figures. =)

Tsannik
03/03/2003, 13:17
Well...

if it's good enough for Commander Chekov, then it's good enough for me..


Heroclix... unofficially endorsed by Starfleet officers from the future!

Mr. Pilkington
03/03/2003, 13:45
Wait, does that mean Starfleet endorses heroclix or that Psi Corp is investigating them? ;)

And the "Desti" figure is Destiny. She was a mutant who worked with Mystique and her Brotherhood of Evil Mutants/Freedom Force team. She could see the future, so it looks like they gave her PC.

mulkabu
03/03/2003, 13:46
The set looks great - the sculpts are dramatically better each set! - in the flesh.. plastic. Although some things worry me (Con artist?), I gues the new prevalence of Perplex will at least lower the use of the undercosted RCE clix from IC.
I do like the way the x-men and Iron man have very average stats, as "creep" seems thankfully absent from this great game (creep = the snowballing effect of sets growing in power).
That said, its a pity that the likes of Iron Man and Gambit won't see competitive play, but if I had to choose, I'll take characterful renditions rather than cost-effetive ones :-)

And hey .. Colossus is a bad ###! :-)

Brian
who would have loved to see some new powers

ps I strongly recommend ignoring trolls who complain loudly - its textbook toddler tantrum throwing. Don't give the guy tyhe attention he so obviously desperately needs ;-)

Basil Elks
03/03/2003, 14:58
I must say that I'm dissappointed with the GG sculpt, I HATE the look of the ultimate GG. Gimme the original.

wonderboy8917
03/03/2003, 15:12
Can you post a picture of GG?

Where did you see him?

StealthArmor
03/03/2003, 15:21
Anyone have Vet iron mans stats

Darth Sabre
03/03/2003, 15:28
Originally posted by madmardigan
The guy that bought all those figures is none other than our own beloved Darth_Sabre. I'm glad you got the money to spend on all those and I wish I could do the same no doubt (because those figs are awesome) but why in blue hell would you spend that much money on those figures when you get an entire case for what you spent? The set will be out by the end of the month.....come on guys have a little patience.

AHHH! Mad, things aren't always what they appear! I would never spend any of MY hard-earned money, to pay those prices! Doesn't mean I can't have fun spending someone else's! LOL

Such is the nature, of a KingPin..................

Drashia
03/03/2003, 15:42
more pics from source [enter name here] who emailed them to me.

http://members.rogers.com/gerric/images/samson.jpg

http://members.rogers.com/gerric/images/meltdown.jpg

Phantom
03/03/2003, 15:58
Mandarin’s gonna be a must-play fig for me. 11 attack with Mind-control, 12 range, Outwit, and 3 clicks of damage? 17 defense with Energy Shield AND flight? On his first click? He’s got a power for almost every occasion. The only real weaknesses are that he may not push or react well to damage, and the possibility that your opponent bases a Vet Professor X to him, and successfully rolls a 6 to Mind-Control your 12-range, 11 attack Mind-Control 3-damage Outwit Cannon.

Everyone else also looks VERY nice. This is going to be a fun set.

grendelboy
03/03/2003, 15:59
Was anyone else hoping for the red t-shirt wi