Xplosion Rules

[Mournblade]

Ok, I haven't seen anything about it. Are there any new rules included with Xplosion Boosters (like how Perplex and Mastermind were on a slip of paper that came with Clobberin' Time for example). Mainly, I'm asking about rules addendums or changes.

Specifically, I want to know if anything has been said about Elektra's two attacks and Mind Control.

As it stands, I'm inclined to fear the worst: that Elektra can Mind Control two people as not take a click if they're individually under 100 pts. I hope that's not the case.

Though, it would be the solution to Firelord teams. "I Mind Control Firelord to shoot Firelord and then Mind Control Firelord to shoot Firelord." :D

[the itsy bit]

if you read the older post, you know that MC and 2 targets lets you control 2 figs.
for every fig 100 points takes 1 damage (I don't know about 2 figs both under 100 points, both together over), but I suspect as per the current rules that she wouldn't take any clicks for MC'ing 2 figs if they wouldn't be 100> points each.

[RavenProject]

It's been ruled previously that if someone has Mind Control with multiple arrows, they can execute multiple Mind Controls.

However, this introduces a timing issue.

As we established with Energy Explosion, a double-arrow attack goes off all at once. Therefore, you are now Mind Controlling two figures at the *exact* same time.

This would mean you can not use one to attack the other, as they are friendly to one another at the time.

This also introduces a curious question when you want to use the two in tandem. For example:

Elektra MC's a Shadowcat and Logan. Can Shadowcat taxi Logan in and then have Logan attack? Technically, this is two separate actions and might fall outside what's allowed by the single-moment dual-attack.

However, you could have a character use a "zero-phase" power on the other MC target. For example, Elektra could MC Doctor Octopus and have him use Perplex to boost the MCed Logan's attack value.

Make sense?

-J

[Mournblade]

Originally posted by RavenProject
Make sense?

-J

Yea, but it's giving me a migraine. :)

[sniksder]

there were no rules in the Xpolsion Booster packs, just the stickers and a ad

[Ozymandas]

An ad? What for?

[Heroclix?]

There was no ad, it WAS a rules insert, just not another PAC. It was a generic black-and-white insert explaining what the powers that crossed over from DC to Marvel did.

[Prophet924]

getting two actions for one. If successful, what am I saying? With an attack of 10 and Perplex to boot she should be successful most of the time.

I hope it is revised that controlling two figures that add up to 100 pts or more causes her to take a click. It makes sense for her to control some ninja or lower priced pieces with ease but controling two pieces over a hundred together is just like getting control of a Thor or the like.

I like the idea that as a swarm of Ninja descend on Daredevil and Elektra, she controls two and gacks their own. That is comic book action there.

Speaking of Daredevil. Who know Leap Climb was so cheap, just comparing IC Rookie DD and X Rookie DD.

Thwipp!

[Kensou]

Originally posted by RavenProject
It's been ruled previously that if someone has Mind Control with multiple arrows, they can execute multiple Mind Controls.

However, this introduces a timing issue.

As we established with Energy Explosion, a double-arrow attack goes off all at once. Therefore, you are now Mind Controlling two figures at the *exact* same time.

This would mean you can not use one to attack the other, as they are friendly to one another at the time.

This also introduces a curious question when you want to use the two in tandem. For example:

Elektra MC's a Shadowcat and Logan. Can Shadowcat taxi Logan in and then have Logan attack? Technically, this is two separate actions and might fall outside what's allowed by the single-moment dual-attack.

Make sense?
-J

First Of All Excuse my poor english.
If ShadowCat and Logan are in the same team and both are enemyes from u, you can't do that thing that u tell.

When u control ShadowCat, she can't carry any enemy figures and Logan is one of these, sorry but this tactical sucks.

[hulkup]

Originally posted by Kensou


First Of All Excuse my poor english.
If ShadowCat and Logan are in the same team and both are enemyes from u, you can't do that thing that u tell.

When u control ShadowCat, she can't carry any enemy figures and Logan is one of these, sorry but this tactical sucks.

actually, the way its described...both shadowcat and logan are now friendly to each other and your team due to mind control. shaowcat should have no problems taxiing logan anywhere since he is still a friendly figure, even though they are playing for the other team for a turn.

[Kensou]

Originally posted by hulkup


actually, the way its described...both shadowcat and logan are now friendly to each other and your team due to mind control. shaowcat should have no problems taxiing logan anywhere since he is still a friendly figure, even though they are playing for the other team for a turn.

First U do the control mental to Shadow Cat, and latter to Logan, not both at the same time, they aren't in the same team when u do a control mental in one of they

[HeroComplex]

This is using Elektra's dual-targeting Mind Control which allows both to be MCed at once. For which, as has been said, we're still waiting for rules clarifications.

[Kensou]

Originally posted by HeroComplex
This is using Elektra's dual-targeting Mind Control which allows both to be MCed at once. For which, as has been said, we're still waiting for rules clarifications.

When u have 2 range attack, u don't have at once, first u have one, and latter the second

[Hellboy]

I'm not a big Elektra fan but, WHEN did she start controlling minds? Is this supposed to be some kind of seduction??

[HeroComplex]

Kensou---
Only the Sentinel and Sinestro figures have multiple attacks. Figures who have multiple lightning bolts on their bases can still only make a single attack, but that single attack may target multiple figures. A single diceroll is made against both of the targets, and as it is all one attack the two targets are attacked simultaneously.

Hellboy---
There's already a good deal of posts asking that question in the various Elektra threads. But sufficed to say in the mini-series Elektra: Assassin from which this Elektra is designed she has actual Mind Control. The stats for the figure can be found in the Warriors section, and to readers of only recent Elektra stories she will probably seem ludicrous and not unlike a fever dream, but by all accounts her representation here works with her representation in that story.

[Ozymandas]

I read that mini-series a long time ago and I don't remember this, but I'll take your word for it. The Rogue & Pyro errors WizKids made in the past were minor. If this was an error it would be a HUGE one. Besides, they tend to err towards forgetting a particular power, or simply not having a place for it, not accidentally including powers a character shouldn't have.

I haven't checked, but I hope her attack is low for this maneuver. It's a #### disgrace that Elektra can pull off MC X2 & Prof X can't.

Having said that, make sure that when you DO use this ability, you remember to push BOTH of your foes! :D