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WizKidsNECA
10/12/2010, 12:00
Wow! What a trip! I’ve been on the road for about a week visiting a development partner in North Carolina and then I jumped on a quick flight to O’Hare to meet Lax and Drew for out drive to Ft. Wayne, IN for the Alliance Games Open House. [...]
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neilr1
10/12/2010, 13:15
It says "10 in each brick" regarding the white lanterns. hmmm.

Apocalypse looks awesome!

Silver Lantern
10/12/2010, 13:18
If they guarantee all 10 per brick, and they have the same theme keyword (presumably white lantern), that's pretty cool as it lets you have a nice team base to build from.

robedestroyer
10/12/2010, 13:20
Fear the "Mighty Midget Wolverine!"

pumawag
10/12/2010, 13:24
Eight different super-boosters with unique content.

Answers a lot of questions that have been tossed out...

I like it.

DemonRS
10/12/2010, 13:29
I hope that's not the final of the wolverine/colossus sculpt... Looks like x-babies wolverine and colossus... Unless they actually are there...
But seriously.. they look far too young looking.

And I must have an appocalypse... I guess I'll have to get a brick this time to get a "super booster"

adam1der
10/12/2010, 13:30
Good googley-moogley!! Me LIKEY!! Rep to YOU!!! :classic:

Impulse-ive
10/12/2010, 13:31
Excellent news all around. as i buy s at least a case every release i'll have plenty of lanterns to play with. the super booster sounds interesting, i'll wait and see before i pass judgement. keep up the great work Wizkids!

MisterId
10/12/2010, 13:31
Can only hope the figs will come out as nice as the digital images

voNvinGeLimeR
10/12/2010, 13:32
Posted a half hour before this thread (central time)
for consolidation purposes...

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5053450&posted=1#post5053450

JPV>BW
10/12/2010, 13:32
Awesome there has never been a better time to be playing this game.

Slade Wilson
10/12/2010, 13:33
so i guess that was the fastball special we were suposed to get in 70 years of marvel. Cant wait!

traitorarmor
10/12/2010, 13:35
If they guarantee all 10 per brick, and they have the same theme keyword (presumably white lantern), that's pretty cool as it lets you have a nice team base to build from.

You don't actually believe that do you? :noid:

If they inserted 10 WL into each brick.....
and a brick is 10 boosters.......
carry the 1.........
re-check.........
have a sip of coffee.......
actually that's really good coffe, another sip................
that's 1 per booster. :surprised A case would mean 20 WLs. :eek:

It's obviously a typo or a C/P error. It's most likely going to be 10 White Lanters, with 1+ inserted into each brick(as has already been reported).

======================================

Also I really like the digital pics of the GSX figs.........I kinda like the mini-Wolverine. Wolveine shouldn't be looking people in the eye without standing on stuff!

http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/wolverine/wolverine-Juggernaut.jpg

Sparkdemon
10/12/2010, 13:37
street fighter to the heroclix line: awesome, if it works.

also, anyone else catch the U-foes ATA? thats awesome lol

Nightrob
10/12/2010, 13:38
I hope the new Marvel set has a beefed up version of Cosmic Spidy. The one out now just isn't powerful enough.

Mjolnir
10/12/2010, 13:39
hmmm, interesting news.... this should get the fanboys frothing......
:laugh::laugh::laugh:

WhoaDirty
10/12/2010, 13:44
Unless they changed it, it is not a typo. It's just sort of awkwardly worded. 10 WLs inserted into the bricks doesn't necessarily mean 10 in each brick, it likely means 10 different WLs into all the bricks.

Ultim8 Avenger
10/12/2010, 13:45
so what the hello am i supposed to do with all my old x-men? thanks wizkids! thanks alot!

SQuigley316
10/12/2010, 13:51
x-babies wolverine and colossus?

And I must have an appocalypse... I guess I'll have to get a brick this time to get a "super booster"

X-Babies Wolvie and Colossus? Are you pulling my chain? Does the article say that the fastball special picture shown on the main page are X-Babies? I can't get to WizKids from work. Seriously I need to know this. ASAP. If we're finally getting X-Babies, I need to start thinking of a new sig after all these years.

Owlman
10/12/2010, 13:52
New Info from Wizkids, including pictures of Apocalypse, Mystique, and the Fastball Special duo?

Inevitable Response: What, no previews from DC 75th or Brightest Day but we already have pics from the X-Men set? Wizkids is terrible!



I'm happy to see a new Mystique. She better have the Dark X-Men keyword.

VikingRS
10/12/2010, 13:55
Unless they changed it, it is not a typo. It's just sort of awkwardly worded. 10 WLs inserted into the bricks doesn't necessarily mean 10 in each brick, it likely means 10 different WLs into all the bricks.

So, are you trying to say, out of all the bricks, in all the world, there will be 10 WL's total? That would be horrible. I am upset enough about the rumor of 1+ per brick.

I would be fine with a set per brick. :) (even if I catch flak for it) :D

Though my big worry is that the lantern leaders will be akin to chases. I want them ALL!!!

Note: One thought with the WL's: the only problem with the niceness of getting a set per brick is that they will be worthless.... crap....

Note 2: though I will be watching the set previews like a hawk to decide if I want the brick or just spend the $120 on individual figs. :(

Sparkdemon
10/12/2010, 13:59
So, are you trying to say, out of all the bricks, in all the world, there will be 10 WL's total? That would be horrible. I am upset enough about the rumor of 1+ per brick.

I would be fine with a set per brick. :) (even if I catch flak for it) :D

Though my big worry is that the lantern leaders will be akin to chases. I want them ALL!!!

well, if you want them all, the essentiality is your going to have to pay for them. look at the black lanterns. even though within a case you should get all of the items necessecary, you arent guranteed to

doctor_x
10/12/2010, 14:07
LOVE the previews! Apoc looks AWESOME!

So does Mystique.

And YESSS!!!!

KISSCLIX!!!!


I can't wait to see what Ace looks like and his dial.

JOYGASM!!!!

DemonRS
10/12/2010, 14:15
X-Babies Wolvie and Colossus? Are you pulling my chain? Does the article say that the fastball special picture shown on the main page are X-Babies? I can't get to WizKids from work. Seriously I need to know this. ASAP. If we're finally getting X-Babies, I need to start thinking of a new sig after all these years.

I don't know, it doesnt' say anything about x-babies.. But both Colossus and wolverine look like x-babies..
I don't know if it's intended to be that way..

gambit38
10/12/2010, 14:19
Such a shame Apocalypse is holding Cyclops and Jean......out comes the craft knife again....

littlebitte
10/12/2010, 14:29
Unless they changed it, it is not a typo. It's just sort of awkwardly worded. 10 WLs inserted into the bricks doesn't necessarily mean 10 in each brick, it likely means 10 different WLs into all the bricks.

They may have changed it. Right now it says:

The set will feature 10 White Lantern Figures with 1 inserted in each brick.

Looks like there are 10 different White Lanterns and they'll be packed one per brick. It looks like they're the 'chase' figures, only you're guaranteed one in every brick. Sort of like Ultimate Giant Man, only there are ten different ones!

Ultim8 Avenger
10/12/2010, 14:37
maybe not x babies but teen x men (evolution)?

EvilTwinSkippy
10/12/2010, 14:39
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg....

Must. Have. Giant. Apocalypse!

:grin:

Perplexinator
10/12/2010, 14:39
Looks like there are 10 different White Lanterns and they'll be packed one per brick. It looks like they're the 'chase' figures, only you're guaranteed one in every brick. Sort of like Ultimate Giant Man, only there are ten different ones!

I wonder what the best course of action would be.

If you buy 2 cases, it will cost you around $350-400. You will get 4/10 White Lanterns, and perhaps can trade some of your SRs away for a few more White Lanterns. So, for $400 worth of figures, you maybe could walk away with 6/10 White Lanterns.

You could buy a $50 CUR set, and buy all 10 White Lanterns separately. Their price could be estimated at around $50 each, since they aren't as rare as past chases, and are actually guaranteed in each brick at least one. That will cost you $500 for all 10 White Lanterns but then you also need SRs to complete your set, knowing that some of the other Colored Lanterns will be SRs.

You could buy 3 cases, which will cost you around $500-550. You'll get 6/10 white lanterns, and perhaps enough extra SRs to trade for almost all the White Lanterns you still need.

If you don't want to have to trade you SRs away, then you pretty much have to buy 5 cases, but that will cost you around $875. Maybe you can sell your extra SRs to regain some of the money back.

OR

You can just give up on White Lanterns now and save yourself anywhere between $100-800 dollars. :ermm:

Clicky
10/12/2010, 14:43
Yay! Fastball Special Figure! Must have! Must have! A duo I hope!

DemonRS
10/12/2010, 14:44
maybe not x babies but teen x men (evolution)?

I can see the teen x-men thing as well... definitely the digital sculpts make them look too young.

mohenjo
10/12/2010, 14:52
The wording in the article for the White Lanterns is now "The set will feature 10 White Lantern Figures with 1 inserted in each brick."

Rottgutt
10/12/2010, 14:53
GSX will have a new Brick Configuration – I call it the 8+1 brick – 8 regular boosters and 1 super booster. There are 8 different Super Boosters (all of which are blind and have unique content). We moved to a new configuration b/c we wanted a way to deliver "extreme" content without the "extreme" price increase. We think we struck the right balance.

So there are 8 (I'm just going to refer to them as) big-based figures (from here on out in this post) in the set, and you get one big-based figure per brick. If you wanted all the big-based figures, you'd need to buy at least 8 bricks, or 4 cases or maybe a couple of cases and a few extra Super Boosters. Either way, you're hoping to not pull a duplicate big-based figure from any of the Super Boosters you buy. 4 cases should net you a full set, even if there are 16 Super-Rares in the set.

But with 8 boosters as opposed to 10 per brick, how many regular Super-Rares do you net per brick/per case? That may offset the full set in 4 cases.

Now, here's where it could become a real problem for the collector. What's the rarity on the big-based figures? Are they all basically Common and you have the same chance of pulling any one of the 8, or are there big-based figures that are
much harder to get then others as they're Uncommon? Or Rare? I can't imagine there would be Super-Rare ones, but heaven help the collector if there are.

Now factor in that WizKids cases are not unique. You can get duplicate cases. That makes buying the 4 cases to get a full set even sketchier.

The other thing is will we see a Knot Top kind of issue where the generic big-based figures (like Sentinels) are more expensive in the secondary market then the unique big-based figures (like Apocolypse)? Most folks would like to play 2 or 3 Sentinels and only one Apocolypse, so it's possible. That may or may not make going to the secondary market to fill in your big-based figure set helpful or wallet-abusing.

I'd also like to point out that I'm actually a fan of the idea of this set. I'm a little leary of the rarity scheme on the big figs, but overall I think it's a really cool approach to a new set.

lancelot
10/12/2010, 14:55
So:

"We gave a small presentation about the our releases for 2011 and then had a little show and tell at the booth."

And Brightest Day and DC's 75th fell under this header. Are they effectively being delayed?

odysseyart
10/12/2010, 14:55
Sa-weeeet!!

malicetoman
10/12/2010, 15:01
Nightrob- I will only agree with you about the cosmic spidey post you did if they have the Tri-sentinel in this set.

spike1138
10/12/2010, 15:08
X-Babies!? Dear lord, I must have them all! I hope there's a X-Babies Longshot and mohawked Storm in that bunch...

DemonRS
10/12/2010, 15:09
X-Babies!? Dear lord, I must have them all! I hope there's a X-Babies Longshot and mohawked Storm in that bunch...

I'll go back and edit my first post not to throw anyone off here.. :P

lancelot
10/12/2010, 15:11
Yay! Fastball Special Figure! Must have! Must have! A duo I hope!

They *obviously* are a Duo. Otherwise, I don't know what NECA/WK is thinking. Or what you are, for that matter :laugh:

lancelot
10/12/2010, 15:12
So:

"We gave a small presentation about the our releases for 2011 and then had a little show and tell at the booth."

And Brightest Day and DC's 75th fell under this header. Are they effectively being delayed?
^
Anybody know for sure?

rhine64
10/12/2010, 15:16
Unless they changed it, it is not a typo. It's just sort of awkwardly worded. 10 WLs inserted into the bricks doesn't necessarily mean 10 in each brick, it likely means 10 different WLs into all the bricks.

I'm not a DC guy but the announcement clearly says 10 WLs with 1 per brick. Not 10 in each brick.

spike1138
10/12/2010, 15:17
I'll go back and edit my first post not to throw anyone off here.. :P

I'm a big Arthur Adams fan so I'm now hoping these really are X-Babies... and that there's a Longshot and punk Storm in there. :classic:

This set looks like it's going to be a fun challenge to collect!

dantheman5999
10/12/2010, 15:17
Are the white lanterns all going to be sr's or are they their own rarity? Like an ultra-rare or mini chase?

DemonRS
10/12/2010, 15:18
I'm not a DC guy but the announcement clearly says 10 WLs with 1 per brick. Not 10 in each brick.

Pretty sure it was a typo that they went back and fixed it.

hair10
10/12/2010, 15:29
I hope the new Marvel set has a beefed up version of Cosmic Spidy. The one out now just isn't powerful enough.

And a new Nightcrawler. I mean, the one we just got is OK, but he's overcosted by about 25 points. :eek:


Seriously though, I hope we get a designer working on these sets that understands power combinations and their relationship to figure point costs. :nervous:

doctor_x
10/12/2010, 15:32
PLEASE, NO! on the X-babies...

*GAG*
*HURL*

The baby trend was pretty annoying back in the day.
GLAD it's gone now.

Skuttlebutt
10/12/2010, 15:33
I know they're digital sculpts, but these and the pic (from another post/album on the realms) showing an actual Apocalypse prototype wasn't on a deep-dish base. Does this mean the return of H dials?! God I hope so...

Wilx
10/12/2010, 15:36
Super excited! Maybe I can just get money for christmas to save up for these.

Ed0825
10/12/2010, 15:55
Unless they changed it, it is not a typo. It's just sort of awkwardly worded. 10 WLs inserted into the bricks doesn't necessarily mean 10 in each brick, it likely means 10 different WLs into all the bricks.


So those are this sets chase figs then. You just need to get a minimum of 5 cases with no dupes to get them all.

PlotDeviceLad
10/12/2010, 16:04
And a new Nightcrawler. I mean, the one we just got is OK, but he's overcosted by about 25 points. :eek:
You said it, not me. Most people are content with the new Nightcrawler (sculpt aside), and many would argue that he's undercosted for what he can do.

I don't mind if DC 75th releases in January, but I want to see Brightest Day release fairly soon.

Blue Atoll
10/12/2010, 16:11
They have changed the White Lantern frequency to 1 per Brick. Looks like they had a slight typo in their original announcement.

SQuigley316
10/12/2010, 16:13
PLEASE, NO! on the X-babies...

*GAG*
*HURL*

The baby trend was pretty annoying back in the day.
GLAD it's gone now.

Removes silk glove but instead slaps Doctor X across cheek with a gauntlet from a suit of armor. "Of course you realize this means war!"

Also there was an X-Babies miniseries which reintroduced the All-Star comics characters that occurred just this year. It was awesome in it's awesomeness.

TH0MAS5
10/12/2010, 16:18
Either way, you're hoping to not pull a duplicate big-based figure from any of the Super Boosters you buy. 4 cases should net you a full set, even if there are 16 Super-Rares in the set.

But with 8 boosters as opposed to 10 per brick, how many regular Super-Rares do you net per brick/per case? That may offset the full set in 4 cases.

set.

Can't you do any trading with your extras?

reklawyad
10/12/2010, 16:21
1 per brick nay nay I say. So we get rid of the chase figures in wos to go to a set that has 8?????? I call bad form.

Then we go to special edition of the huge booster and there are eight in all??? How the f are you supposed to do a sealed event like that? Oh I'll take the big booster each time you are going to have people fighting over these big boosters.

Well I know I'll be going to all the events around here that have a brick for the sealed event prize now and will be as cutthroat as ever!!! Bad form I say again bad form.

SQuigley316
10/12/2010, 16:26
X-Babies!? Dear lord, I must have them all! I hope there's a X-Babies Longshot and mohawked Storm in that bunch...

I am of the belief that the best way to maximize the amount of X-Babies produced and still handle Baby Longshot was to have him represented by a cardboard feat ala Mojo turning him into a picture in Uncanny Annual 12.

When you're the self-appointed leader of the X-Babies Action Pack Society these are the things you have to consider.

jebus_2099
10/12/2010, 16:34
MYSTIQUE!!!!!! Come on Magneto! LONG LIVE THE BROTHERHOOD!!!
Not no excited about street fighter being compatible, i don't really think it is a good idea

Ultimate2099
10/12/2010, 16:44
OR

You can just give up on White Lanterns now and save yourself anywhere between $100-800 dollars. :ermm:

This will be me. My wallet thanks me for not being a DC guy this set. And since the "chase" figures in GSX will be the Big Figures and I HATE big figures, I'm pretty much covered for that set too. I hope...

Oh and depending on how they sell the Street Fighter Clix, I'm stoked. Though I ain't paying 100$ for a collector's set anymore than I did for Watchmen. Now TMNT, that I'll pay 100$ for.

janosvaradi
10/12/2010, 16:46
Cool pics. As i see these are only CGIs.

But good concepts. Apocalypse is Awesome. The new booster concept also a great change.

sylnzz
10/12/2010, 16:47
Am I understanding this correctly. With each brick you'll receive 1 White Lantern? This would be like our quasi-chases' from WoS, I'm assuming. But 10! DC fans are going to be broke! Same goes for Marvel fans and the upcoming super boosters.

TH0MAS5
10/12/2010, 16:55
Am I understanding this correctly. With each brick you'll receive 1 White Lantern? This would be like our quasi-chases' from WoS, I'm assuming. But 10! DC fans are going to be broke! Same goes for Marvel fans and the upcoming super boosters.

Starters.
Collector's Sets.
Big Box Sets
Movie Packs.
10 Mini-Chases.
8 different Big Boosters.

Every year there will

doctor_x
10/12/2010, 16:59
Not no excited about street fighter being compatible, i don't really think it is a good idea


Yeah, the martial artist keyword just got STACKED.:ermm:

spider_ham
10/12/2010, 17:11
It seems as though a full White Lantern and Super Booster giants/colossals collection is going to be very expensive to obtain, given WL exclusivity and SB cost (booster x2). Still, the variety is great, as a brick investment yields the BIBTB fig in addition to a WL or Super Booster pull.

Sadly, I doubt dropping $1k on 5 cases of each property is going to yield a full set of WLs, as I expect at least one duplicate brick/case collation. :( SBs are less of a risk for the investment.

I'm glad that WK went all-out to make Street Fighter fully-compatible. Can we see HorrorClix properties treated the same way in the future?

hair10
10/12/2010, 17:26
You said it, not me. Most people are content with the new Nightcrawler (sculpt aside), and many would argue that he's undercosted for what he can do.

I suppose I should have ended my comment with "/sarcasm". ;)

Kizer
10/12/2010, 17:49
On the site it said something about a street fighter set. I can't wait for that.

szude
10/12/2010, 17:52
I'm sort of thinking the cost on getting all the lanterns should be way more reasonable then getting all the chases. By the math, it would take an average of 8 cases to get all the 4 chases from BatB. But it only takes 5 to get all the lanterns.

Plus, the fact that there's more of them spreads out the demand. If you have 4 chases, all the demand, and therefore price bumps, are located in just those 4 figs. With 10 lanterns, you'll have some people getting a few and and some getting all, but the overall demand should be less because people in general won't be trying to get all of them.

Also witness the price depression on individual SRs when there are more of them ala WoS. People don't bother to get them all cuz there's so many.

NeoShazam
10/12/2010, 18:13
I hope the new Marvel set has a beefed up version of Cosmic Spidy. The one out now just isn't powerful enough.

Lol, win thread.

I wonder what the best course of action would be.

If you buy 2 cases, it will cost you around $350-400. You will get 4/10 White Lanterns, and perhaps can trade some of your SRs away for a few more White Lanterns. So, for $400 worth of figures, you maybe could walk away with 6/10 White Lanterns.

You could buy a $50 CUR set, and buy all 10 White Lanterns separately. Their price could be estimated at around $50 each, since they aren't as rare as past chases, and are actually guaranteed in each brick at least one. That will cost you $500 for all 10 White Lanterns but then you also need SRs to complete your set, knowing that some of the other Colored Lanterns will be SRs.

You could buy 3 cases, which will cost you around $500-550. You'll get 6/10 white lanterns, and perhaps enough extra SRs to trade for almost all the White Lanterns you still need.

If you don't want to have to trade you SRs away, then you pretty much have to buy 5 cases, but that will cost you around $875. Maybe you can sell your extra SRs to regain some of the money back.

OR

You can just give up on White Lanterns now and save yourself anywhere between $100-800 dollars. :ermm:

Yeah, this set is starting to look pretty daunting from a buying standpoint. Thankfully I haven't read anything with White Lanterns but I'm still trying to figure out how deep this iceberg goes.

DARKKNIGHT188
10/12/2010, 18:28
YES, YES, YES YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS.........So you do want the GSX!

dariusq
10/12/2010, 18:29
Ugh. Suddenly White Lantern figs have gotten a lot less appealing than they originally sounded. Nevermind that they're essentially chase rarity (albeit easier to get) but there's 10 of them. All this for characters who did virtually nothing to advance the story. At least the Black Lanterns had some kind of impact. And I'm still peeved about the Deputy Lanterns filling up the BN starter set when they too were completely ineffectual.:mad:

szude
10/12/2010, 18:37
Ugh. Suddenly White Lantern figs have gotten a lot less appealing than they originally sounded. Nevermind that they're essentially chase rarity (albeit easier to get) but there's 10 of them. All this for characters who did virtually nothing to advance the story. At least the Black Lanterns had some kind of impact. And I'm still peeved about the Deputy Lanterns filling up the BN starter set when they too were completely ineffectual.:mad:

Again....even though there's more of them, a random white lantern is 4x more common than a random chase figure. So even though there's 2.5 more of them total, you will get them quicker so the overall price will be much less.

Darth Sabre
10/12/2010, 18:46
Love the sculpts for Mystique and the Fastball special Wolvie & Colossus! This could be my set to end all sets! It has the potential to have characters I have been waiting for! MARAUDERS...for the love of Pete, FINISH THEM! HARRY LELAND....PLEASE! I'll wait for the Horsemen in lieu of these characters.....but please give me these!

bluedragon90
10/12/2010, 18:46
well I would buy my normal brick of each but It is X-men so I must buy a case...and a brick of DC

Superclone
10/12/2010, 19:42
My wife: What's Mystique doing?
Me: I don't know, but she's so hot.
My wife: Nerd.

All looking so awesome.

Smurf's Up
10/12/2010, 20:07
Nice sculpts. Personally, I'm not a big fan of duos, and we already have a colossus with a fast ball special. I'd much rather have a colossus or a wolverine, not both on the same base. I know it comes down to preference but sometimes I'd just rather run 'this' or that' character, not both of them on the same dial.
To me, it also takes away from the unique qualities of each character, and swarm tactics of a team. Sure... I could cut wolverine off and just have the colossus figure, but what if the dial has something like regeneration? That's not colossus.... Just my opinion. :(

Surfer13
10/12/2010, 20:07
1 per brick nay nay I say. So we get rid of the chase figures in wos to go to a set that has 8?????? I call bad form.
Except that they are 1/brick, so if you only want one or two of them, then buy that many bricks, hope that you pull what you want, and if not then try to trade what you get for what you want.
1/brick isn't a bad thing. You could buy a hundred bricks looking for a random chase and never find one. Statistically improbable, but possible. If these are guaranteed 1/brick, then you will either get what you want or get something to trade for what you want.

Then we go to special edition of the huge booster and there are eight in all??? How the f are you supposed to do a sealed event like that? Oh I'll take the big booster each time you are going to have people fighting over these big boosters.

Well I know I'll be going to all the events around here that have a brick for the sealed event prize now and will be as cutthroat as ever!!! Bad form I say again bad form.

It seems to me that some people have got to be going out of their way to not see that a judge just won't let anyone use super boosters if they want to hold a sealed tourney.
Or, if the venue has enough, they could have a super booster only sealed tourney. If a super booster only contains a single figure then luck plays a huge factor, but in any sealed event the element of luck is there, and some standard pieces and pulls go a long way towards deciding victory in sealed play.

Heck, if a judge absolutely, positively HAS to use super boosters and standard boosters, then I would ask everyone if they were willing to pay extra for the super booster, and everyone that said yes would get their name put in for a random draw.
Of course, I do not ever see a case where a judge would have to mix boosters, but if someone can't imagine simply not using super boosters, I figured I should add that in.

MattPetersen
10/12/2010, 20:17
WOW those preview figures look FANTASTIC (I know they are just digital mock ups but WOW).

Can't wait for Brightest Day and DC 75th!!!!! Very excited to see ALL the Lanterns I am finally going to have at once!!!!!

2011 looks like it is going to come in with a bang too!
I am not much of an X-Men person but I really want that set!!!

dariusq
10/12/2010, 21:18
Again....even though there's more of them, a random white lantern is 4x more common than a random chase figure. So even though there's 2.5 more of them total, you will get them quicker so the overall price will be much less.

You mean like I'm getting my Deadpool and Cosmic Spidey (both mere SRs), right? Face it, WLs are going to go for ridiculous prices particularly if they're even half as good playwise as we hope. Collecting all 10 of them is just going to be a royal pain.

Azrael0626
10/12/2010, 21:26
Maybe it is just me, but the new Wizkids/NECA seems to only be interested in making money with the way they are throwing as many sets and properties out there as possible. The 10 White Lanterns and 8 super boosters seem to confirm this. Maybe it is not a problem for some people, but it will really hurt the wallet for collectors and comic fans that love these characters and want to get them. I am excited to be getting new product, but it is a lot of product coming out in a short time frame and making certain figures (many that people really want) hard to come by is going to hurt financially.

JOwenR2
10/12/2010, 21:27
I'm excited about the 1 per brick on the white lanters, I could care less about, them and at most am buying 1 brick, I'll get my white lantern sell it on ebay and recoup a good prtion of the cost per brick and bring 1 person 1 closer to a set, also might trade on Realms so watch my trade thread come the 75th release lol.

American Dragon
10/12/2010, 21:54
I'm sure ibeatdrew is incredibly happy about the Fastball Special duo fig. I hope the new set includes the X-Statix. (We only have Orphan!!!!) I'm also dissapointed about the Star Trek game to be a seprate game. Poop.:angry:

AmDrag

Ed0825
10/12/2010, 21:54
I'm excited about the 1 per brick on the white lanters, I could care less about, them and at most am buying 1 brick, I'll get my white lantern sell it on ebay and recoup a good prtion of the cost per brick and bring 1 person 1 closer to a set, also might trade on Realms so watch my trade thread come the 75th release lol.

Yeah, that is my idea also. It is one thing though not to collect the chases (2 or 4 per set). You can sort of tell your self that your still getting a completed set (minus chases). But when you start talking about 10 figures that your not getting, its hard to get into that mindset. I know its semantics, but still we always play these mind games for each set to justify our buying.

Now, I hope the internet retailers can bricks cheap like they have been, that is the only way to try to save some money. I wonder if the internet retailers are going to get the Madroxs, if they are then the price point for each should be somewhere between $5-10. If not then extra Madroxs are going to cost a fortune. Who really buys more than one case at a store anyway?

MattPetersen
10/12/2010, 22:05
Maybe it is just me, but the new Wizkids/NECA seems to only be interested in making money with the way they are throwing as many sets and properties out there as possible. The 10 White Lanterns and 8 super boosters seem to confirm this. Maybe it is not a problem for some people, but it will really hurt the wallet for collectors and comic fans that love these characters and want to get them. I am excited to be getting new product, but it is a lot of product coming out in a short time frame and making certain figures (many that people really want) hard to come by is going to hurt financially.

Well they are a business and they NEED to make money.
I actually don't feel upset at all that this is the route they are going.
I mean I am a HUGE Green Lantern fan (including the other colors as well) and I am just fine with it. I actually plan on buying a lot of DC 75th so I'll hopefully have tons to trade for the ones I am missing (though my main priority will be Hal Jordan, Conner Kent, and Bart Allen).

The Super Boosters intrigue me and I will wait for further info before I decide one way or another.

All in all though I am happy about all this information because it shows me that heroclix is still successful and that these guys are trying their hardest to keep the game fresh, exciting, and out in the eyes of the public!

rwint1968
10/12/2010, 22:15
Looking awesome! I'm kinda looking forward to an Xmen set and I'm not really an Xmen fan.

:cool:

UndeadEnigma
10/12/2010, 22:58
Wow, three figures in and I already know I want the entire set. That's gotta be a record.

capsshield
10/12/2010, 23:02
talked to a retailer who was at the conference. He said they showed him a sentinel but no pictures allowed and told him there would be at least two sentinels in the set. He also told me something I hadn't heard before or yet and that is that he was told they were going to put double based and duo figures in the giant pack and that they were planing 6 double based and 6 large figures. I could live with 6 a lot better than I could 8, so I hope he is right, but only time will tell.

He also said appocalypse is awesome in person and just slightly smaller than your typical large figure, and the DC 75 figures look great especially the brightest day set

TH0MAS5
10/12/2010, 23:07
I'm also dissapointed about the Star Trek game to be a seprate game. Poop.:angry:

AmDrag

Yeah, me too.

I wanted Zen-hatten to battle Q
to see who was the king.

DaeRave
10/12/2010, 23:20
Street Fighter will be fully compatible with Heroclix.


I just pee'd my pants.

lost clicker
10/12/2010, 23:31
It says "10 in each brick" regarding the white lanterns. hmmm.

Apocalypse looks awesome!

Ummm......
DC 75th - News was mainly focused on a a few extra figures we had on display. We’ll ramp up previews over the coming month. The set will feature 10 White Lantern Figures with 1 inserted in each brick.

SpakSpang
10/12/2010, 23:51
I love the concepts of the Super Booster, but I must say I really don't like this collectable nature of the game...it is getting crazy. They are manufacturing rarity so that you must pay over $200.00 to get everything for the set? I say boo.

Here is an idea. If you want more people to play this game. Make sets have Super Boosters that you can see in and collect all the figures. Perhaps you can make the Super Boosters more expensive than the normal blind boosters, but then people can know what they are buying.

I would rather have many LARGE starter Sets of 12-20 figures I can immediately play than dealing with this random stuff anymore.

surrealhero1019
10/13/2010, 00:28
Ummm......
DC 75th - News was mainly focused on a a few extra figures we had on display. We’ll ramp up previews over the coming month. The set will feature 10 White Lantern Figures with 1 inserted in each brick.

What Lost Clicker said...The way I read the quote was that there will be 10 White Lanterns total, and they're inserting 1 in each brick, so you are "guaranteed" 1 White Lantern if you buy a brick (technically 2 since the BiBtB is White Lantern Sinestro). So yeah, White Lanterns are going to be extremely hot on the secondary market. Still, I'll probably buy a case. Maybe I'll pull two of the same and be able to trade for a chase from a previous set :laugh:

candusima
10/13/2010, 00:56
talked to a retailer who was at the conference. He said they showed him a sentinel but no pictures allowed and told him there would be at least two sentinels in the set. He also told me something I hadn't heard before or yet and that is that he was told they were going to put double based and duo figures in the giant pack and that they were planing 6 double based and 6 large figures. I could live with 6 a lot better than I could 8, so I hope he is right, but only time will tell.

For some speculation, let's assume the above is true.

If there are 8 different big boosters, then this would imply the duos come in trios (in order to keep this simple). And pre orders being given the option of additional big boosters to match their original order (1 bonus per brick) means that the case you buy comes with the option of two additional big boosters. So, two cases should get you all the big boosters (assuming a 1:1 trade ratio for duplicates).

Without knowing the exact number of figures in the set, eight boosters per brick could tweak SR distribution enough to make it very interesting for collectors. If there is a 1:2:4:6 distribution regarding SR:R:U:C, which seems like a good approximation of distribution, then 1 in 13 figs in a brick or case should be a SR. With only 40 figures instead of 50, that would still get you an average of *just* over 3 SRs per brick, and two cases for a full set of SRs assuming no repeats, 12 SR slots, and 1:1 trading.

In this scenario, Wizkids has just sold two big boosters extra to someone who buys two cases for collecting purposes. It's a nice increase in the amount of product they're selling without increasing the actual amount of product they're selling. Normally, this would make me a little grumpy, but with the figures partitioned like this, I feel like I am more empowered and informed as a consumer to customize my purchases.

If the option to buy additional big boosters is extended to brick and mortar stores first, with a two week delay to online stores or something, this puts foot traffic back into FLGSs and money in local venues' pockets. If that's what Neca/Wizkids does (and the on site brick figure should help too), then I'm all for being "snookered" into the additional $50.

surrealhero1019
10/13/2010, 01:21
I love the concepts of the Super Booster, but I must say I really don't like this collectable nature of the game...it is getting crazy. They are manufacturing rarity so that you must pay over $200.00 to get everything for the set? I say boo.

Here is an idea. If you want more people to play this game. Make sets have Super Boosters that you can see in and collect all the figures. Perhaps you can make the Super Boosters more expensive than the normal blind boosters, but then people can know what they are buying.

I would rather have many LARGE starter Sets of 12-20 figures I can immediately play than dealing with this random stuff anymore.

LoL, I hate when somebody posts something I'd like to comment on while I'm commenting on someone else's post. So, here's the deal: Once upon a time, boosters came with 4 figures and some cardboard. Those boosters were $7.99 and the sculpting and quality, in my opinion, improved with each set. Enter Avengers. We now get 5 figures per booster, some cardboard, and the sculpts are ok. The price goes to $11.99. So we get a price increase of $4.00 for one more figure. That's acceptable, I guess. Now enter HoT. No cardboard, very mediocre sculpts, and still a price tag of $11.99, not to mention the fact that it was the first release in over a year. Now, before I get flamed and told to get off the boards for being a "hater", I'm not hating. I feel that the game really needs some new life breathed into it. Attendance at my venue has been on a very steady decline since the release of HoT, and I while I can't speak for all the venues out there I think I can safely say that interest in the game has hit a low point. I've held several demos in attempts to generate interest, and at each demo I hear the same story: awesome game, but too expensive for me to get into. That being said, I feel that, unless something major is done to motivate new players, the game will become stagnant and we'll see a repeat of November 2008. When you get down to it, it's not about Super-Boosters, Chase figures, or any of that stuff. That keeps us old folks around (sometimes). It's about making the game affordable again, and, while I may be fortunate enough to be able to afford to play, sooner or later I'm afraid I'll find myself the last player at my venue.

Doctor Diesel
10/13/2010, 05:00
Love the sculpts for Mystique and the Fastball special Wolvie & Colossus!

QFT!

I'm imagining a duo with an Alter Ego mechanic that makes them able to separate into two pieces after making a fastball special attack! That would be the most awesome use of duo/AE mechanics ever :classic:

Surfer13
10/13/2010, 06:54
I love the concepts of the Super Booster, but I must say I really don't like this collectable nature of the game...it is getting crazy. They are manufacturing rarity so that you must pay over $200.00 to get everything for the set? I say boo.

Here is an idea. If you want more people to play this game. Make sets have Super Boosters that you can see in and collect all the figures. Perhaps you can make the Super Boosters more expensive than the normal blind boosters, but then people can know what they are buying.

I would rather have many LARGE starter Sets of 12-20 figures I can immediately play than dealing with this random stuff anymore.

So when the customers go into the store to buy their bricks, they can see what super figure they will be getting?

Yeah, that will go over well. Retailers end up sitting on the Grotesk and Mk II Sentinel super boosters while customers opt out of their purchase agreememnts to go elsewhere and get the figures that they want.

How is that good business?

Besides, there have been in the entire history of Heroclix, four "non-blind super boosters". That's all. Just four.
Why only four? Hint: It isn't because they flew off the shelves.

DemonRS
10/13/2010, 07:25
So when the customers go into the store to buy their bricks, they can see what super figure they will be getting?

Yeah, that will go over well. Retailers end up sitting on the Grotesk and Mk II Sentinel super boosters while customers opt out of their purchase agreememnts to go elsewhere and get the figures that they want.

How is that good business?

Besides, there have been in the entire history of Heroclix, four "non-blind super boosters". That's all. Just four.
Why only four? Hint: It isn't because they flew off the shelves.

Yes.. I'm sure you'll be able to feel the difference betweem a normal booster and a super booster(like the bat sentry or giant man, etc). In which case being that the "super boosters" are supposed to be worth like $25 (that's what it said it would cost for a retailer to buy more right?) that means for the common person you might be able to snag a super booster for $8 or whatever if you're there first thing?
So what's the incentive for a retailer to buy more at $25 a piece?

Leaves room for retailers to separate what they think are super boosters and charge more, where they will probably sit. It also leaves problems for people who buy bricks from people who may not be completely honest. I know some people have got a "bricks worth" of packs (not the wrapped brick). In which case.. can you complain to the company that they jacked you of your super booster? It's a problem..

I'd rather the non blind sets.. It disappoints me that this is happening this way..
Why couldn't we have a new x-men starter set with Apocalypse as the one piece villain team and like 4 x-men pieces to fight him? Make him more available to everyone..

Uberman
10/13/2010, 09:57
I like more colossals, but I don't relish a 20+ blind booster with a single figure in it.

I'm more than comfortable paying 20 bucks for a big guy I can see. I did so with the Sentinel [and, more or less, the second Sentinel and Anti-Monitor]. Hell, the Chariot was LESS than 20.

But making it blind? And having 8 of them? That's... extravagant.

Although if I'm rolling in dough and the set blows my mind, maybe I'll get a case again, and just really hope the two I get are two I want [which actually is another Sentinel].

Goldeeh
10/13/2010, 10:03
Qusetion: Why didn't they pick matching costumes for Phoenix and Cyclops? Jean Grey is wearing her 80's Phoenix outfit while Scott is in his early 90's outfit. Great Apocalypse, though!

playmobil
10/13/2010, 10:09
A question about the Start Trek :Expeditions game. Are the landing party figs heroclix scale?

Quebbster
10/13/2010, 10:15
Qusetion: Why didn't they pick matching costumes for Phoenix and Cyclops? Jean Grey is wearing her 80's Phoenix outfit while Scott is in his early 90's outfit. Great Apocalypse, though!

You'll have to ask the guy who drew this cover (http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/uncanny-x-men/377-3.jpg).

Thrumble Funk
10/13/2010, 10:19
Don't really care about the "super booster." It is a Marvel set, so I'm in for a case. If I pull a giant figure I don't want, I'll trade for one I do.

Though I do hope that these "super boosters" have a bit more value in them for the buck than, say, SWM Universe.

Beast
10/13/2010, 10:40
Wow. Mystique is looking good. As is the Fastball Special Duo.

Hopefully with Mystique in, maybe we'll get the rest of the Dark X-Men.

Just need Mimic, Weapon Omega, and Dark Beast. At least for the 2nd incarnation.

Vine
10/13/2010, 11:32
Yes.. I'm sure you'll be able to feel the difference betweem a normal booster and a super booster(like the bat sentry or giant man, etc). In which case being that the "super boosters" are supposed to be worth like $25 (that's what it said it would cost for a retailer to buy more right?) that means for the common person you might be able to snag a super booster for $8 or whatever if you're there first thing?
So what's the incentive for a retailer to buy more at $25 a piece?

Leaves room for retailers to separate what they think are super boosters and charge more, where they will probably sit. It also leaves problems for people who buy bricks from people who may not be completely honest. I know some people have got a "bricks worth" of packs (not the wrapped brick). In which case.. can you complain to the company that they jacked you of your super booster? It's a problem..

I'd rather the non blind sets.. It disappoints me that this is happening this way..
Why couldn't we have a new x-men starter set with Apocalypse as the one piece villain team and like 4 x-men pieces to fight him? Make him more available to everyone..

I think you're mistaken on one part here: The Super boosters will have blind contents, but they'll be clearly marked as super boosters. They'll probably be considerably bigger than a regular booster, taking up twice the space in the case and with a different box design to accomodate the huge figures that are inside. No cherry picking of super boosters; they cost more because there's more to them, and you'll be able to see that plainly. Just won't know which specific set of contents you're going to get.

Edit: Okay, no more probably. From this picture here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1675444/IMG00703-20101009-1226.jpg we can see that the Super Boosters aren't hard to pick out at all.

MyLast1up
10/13/2010, 12:17
It says "10 in each brick" regarding the white lanterns. hmmm.

"The set will feature 10 White Lantern Figures with 1 inserted in each brick."

-Directly from the site

rbbum
10/13/2010, 13:42
As a new player I am super excited to GSX mainly bc I dont have the older x-men figs and i didnt want to buy figs from older sets.

Same goes for the big figures in the new super boosters. I could drop some big bucks on eBay for a sentenial but from what players tell me ...they are not as powerful against modern figs as they were when they we released.

Also thinking about getting new players how hard would it be to have a starter set release along with a new set?

My first set was Hot but i got the FF starter pack with rules and maps and dice and FIGS. Its great. It was perfect for a new player to get started. Im not a huge DC fan but I really want that starter set. So i can have the new rules and a new map, O and new SWEET looking figs.

So with the rules being up dated, revised, every week about, why not release a rule book with every set and throw it in with a map and tokens and other goodies?

just a thought

mr.malice
10/13/2010, 17:20
I hope the new Marvel set has a beefed up version of Cosmic Spidy. The one out now just isn't powerful enough.

LOL!! That cracks me up! Luv your sarcasm!:laugh:

vamroc
10/13/2010, 17:31
How cute mini Wolverine I want one

vamroc
10/13/2010, 17:51
Qusetion: Why didn't they pick matching costumes for Phoenix and Cyclops? Jean Grey is wearing her 80's Phoenix outfit while Scott is in his early 90's outfit. Great Apocalypse, though!

Jean lost the Phoenix Force and then got it back shorty before the Onslaught story arc also I think their costumes had something to do with that particular issue. Who smells ONSLAUGHT a Giant Sized figure.

szude
10/13/2010, 18:02
You mean like I'm getting my Deadpool and Cosmic Spidey (both mere SRs), right? Face it, WLs are going to go for ridiculous prices particularly if they're even half as good playwise as we hope. Collecting all 10 of them is just going to be a royal pain.


?? Like I said, overall price. So while Deadpool ($30) and Spidey ($50) are hard to come by, by ways of collecting all 16 SRs, they are evened out by Spot ($5) and Vapor ($5)

szude
10/13/2010, 18:09
I like more colossals, but I don't relish a 20+ blind booster with a single figure in it.


Do we know there'll only be a single figure in it? I was picturing something like a collosal and 4-9 other figures, depending, but I don't think they said either way.

I love the concepts of the Super Booster, but I must say I really don't like this collectable nature of the game.

*reads the above*

*looks at the box which says 'collectible miniatures game'*

*is confused*

Goldeeh
10/13/2010, 18:44
A-ha! Thanks for the explanation. Not familiar with that storyline. I dropped comics after X-Cutioner's Song for girls and playing bass for a metal band in highschool. Now that I'm married and too out of practice to be in a band, hello comics, my old friend! :grin:

You'll have to ask the guy who drew this cover (http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/uncanny-x-men/377-3.jpg).

Goldeeh
10/13/2010, 18:56
I used to be a completist, and it just has gotten too expensive. Now I just buy singles of figs I really want (X-Men and Lanterns), and a booster or two here and there.

I'm just happy they're spitting out good (or decent) quality product after a 2-year drought.


Maybe it is just me, but the new Wizkids/NECA seems to only be interested in making money with the way they are throwing as many sets and properties out there as possible. The 10 White Lanterns and 8 super boosters seem to confirm this. Maybe it is not a problem for some people, but it will really hurt the wallet for collectors and comic fans that love these characters and want to get them. I am excited to be getting new product, but it is a lot of product coming out in a short time frame and making certain figures (many that people really want) hard to come by is going to hurt financially.

Action_Jackson
10/13/2010, 20:23
The super booster makes me a little nervous. I usually get a lot of what I need from 1 case. Not gonna obsess about it though. Its months away.

It still makes me wonder if the number of other, regular figures, is going to change accordingly or if we're just being made to buy more than usual.

8 different boosters though. Does that mean that they're going to be identical? So if you get A-B-C-D in one, you're always going to get A-B-C-D in boosters that contain A and B?

Did that make sense? I hope it did.

I'm excited for the pieces they're teasing us with. I am. I just hope the super booster doesn't end like the Fantastic Forces giants thing where I ended up pulling Yellowjacket out of every other pack I opened.

hero_temp
10/13/2010, 23:46
Looking at the people complaining about the collectable nature, of a collectable game, Which has always been a collectable game....

Bwah?????

look at the Watchmen set, Thats what happens when you make it a set collection, price goes through the roof. As much As I like watchemen, I ain't buying it. Looking at the previews and seeing the spoilers, I will be buying a lot of both 75th and GSX. this is compared to the lowly 4 boosters I got of WoS . Similar to Fantastic Forces, I see the SuperBooster a way to get a set of hard to do figures to us. As to White Lanterns, I will be trading mine off, Don't care for any of them (x-cept dead man, if he is more usefull than his old click)

WAIT, Stop the Press -> GSX... GLX ... GLA
Oh boy , Oh Boy OH BOY....... This Could be great

TheDarkJediX
10/14/2010, 00:53
"The set will feature 10 White Lantern Figures with 1 inserted in each brick."

-Directly from the site

please provide link

jak7890
10/14/2010, 04:12
Maybe it is just me, but the new Wizkids/NECA seems to only be interested in making money with the way they are throwing as many sets and properties out there as possible. The 10 White Lanterns and 8 super boosters seem to confirm this. Maybe it is not a problem for some people, but it will really hurt the wallet for collectors and comic fans that love these characters and want to get them. I am excited to be getting new product, but it is a lot of product coming out in a short time frame and making certain figures (many that people really want) hard to come by is going to hurt financially.

Yeeeeah... Business kinda do that whole, "Hey, let's make money!" thing a lot these days...


please provide link

Click the one that's on the front page.

doctor_x
10/14/2010, 09:27
If the "Giant-Sized" set focus' on that timeframe in X-Men history, then we may get versions of Beast, Iceman, and Angel while they were on the Avengers and Champions then.

We should also get an ATA for X-factor and Champions too.

I bet that the majority of Brotherhood remakes in this set will be Ultimates versions.

I would like to see some AoA figs too.

A Wild Child/Mr. Creed duo would be the BOMB!

I also want a giant Holocaust.

Give us a great Juggernaut too with full move charge/attack like Green Scar.
Make it penetrating. :devious:

Valtz
10/14/2010, 10:01
Woah Woah Woah.... did I read street fighter?!
Hell yes!!!! Now that's a set i'll totally pic up!
(I'm guessing it'll just be some kinda collectors set or strange starter set)

Telegmo
10/14/2010, 11:47
Jean lost the Phoenix Force and then got it back shorty before the Onslaught story arc also I think their costumes had something to do with that particular issue. Who smells ONSLAUGHT a Giant Sized figure.

Phoenix and Cyclops are wearing their uniforms from the Twelve Event, and I think I remember a cover very similar to the Apocalypse they are showing us.

jlk4ever
10/14/2010, 13:40
Just got done purchasing WOS which included a case and 10 individual boosters and just praying there is enough time to pass so I can be purchasing some of the GSX set. So much for dying for Red Hulk. Hello fastball special!!

Darknesspwns
10/14/2010, 16:29
i wonder if the "super" booster will count as two boosters for redemption purposes. also sealed with super boosters seems interesting

pepper
10/14/2010, 22:13
street fighter makes great sense! RYU vs hulk
spiderman vs. chun li.

Its marvel vs capcom in clix form. YES PLEASE!~!!

hot_fusion
10/15/2010, 03:12
Its marvel vs capcom in clix form. YES PLEASE!~!!

I sincerely hope they roll with this thought. Mega Man, Strider, and Jin clix? Yes, please!

MyLast1up
10/15/2010, 12:51
please provide link

http://heroclix.com/blog/2010/10/12/news-from-the-alliance-games-open-house/

MyLast1up
10/15/2010, 12:55
I hope a new Juggernaut with the Excalibur keyword is in order. WoS Nightcrawler fishing opposing figs for Juggernaut to pound into the ground. YES PLEASE!!!!

sylnzz
10/15/2010, 18:53
I hope a new Juggernaut with the Excalibur keyword is in order. WoS Nightcrawler fishing opposing figs for Juggernaut to pound into the ground. YES PLEASE!!!!

I would like that too. =D

ohoni
10/17/2010, 00:30
These "10 bricks to get all the white Lanterns" are really worrying. So Wizkids 1.0 collapsed because they started running chase figures and other money grubbing gimmicks that chased off the average consumer and made it into as game for wealthy obsessives, so Wizkids 2.0, instead of learning from those mistakes, ups the ante with even worse distribution methods? Kudos.

gatharion
10/18/2010, 03:04
Yay! Fastball Special Figure! Must have! Must have! A duo I hope!

I suspect that I'm the only one who is sick of seeing WK attempt to portray the Fastball Special in Heroclix.

michiganj24
10/18/2010, 05:45
Sick of it??? Techncially isnt this the first time (as the last one was from the Canceled Marvel 70th set)
I suspect that I'm the only one who is sick of seeing WK attempt to portray the Fastball Special in Heroclix.

michiganj24
10/18/2010, 05:48
As much as those were deplored I dont think that was a downfall for them as they reported they were making money off the brand and it was more all the other crappy gamnes they had (Sportlclix, Creepy Freaks etc) that dragged down the bottom line
These "10 bricks to get all the white Lanterns" are really worrying. So Wizkids 1.0 collapsed because they started running chase figures and other money grubbing gimmicks that chased off the average consumer and made it into as game for wealthy obsessives, so Wizkids 2.0, instead of learning from those mistakes, ups the ante with even worse distribution methods? Kudos.

gatharion
10/18/2010, 12:58
Sick of it??? Techncially isnt this the first time (as the last one was from the Canceled Marvel 70th set)

No, this would be the third.

We've already been treated to a terrible feat card and a special power on Colossus from M&M that became terribly inappropriate when the wording of TK got changed.

Maybe they'll get it right this time, but personally I wish they'd spend less time and effort on trying to recreate a single tactic from two characters who haven't even done that in how many years?

ironman2112
10/18/2010, 15:25
PLEASE redo that colossus/wolv duo...that is just weird looking. refer to M&M colossus for nice looking sculpt...

So Sentinels will make perfect big figs I would assume?...that is worthy of some excitement...

willkill4clix
10/18/2010, 15:48
actually, if u read it, it says "1 in each brick". that means 1 figure in each brick people. i know this is a game about comics, but c'mon, lets be realistic here!

cattmoe
10/19/2010, 20:23
I hope a new Juggernaut with the Excalibur keyword is in order. WoS Nightcrawler fishing opposing figs for Juggernaut to pound into the ground. YES PLEASE!!!!

Yes, let's manipulate keywords to make Nightcrawler even better. :tired:

Juggernaut and Nightcrawler were never on Excalibur together....

tk1174
10/22/2010, 12:46
Wow this game is getting SUPER hard to collect.

Dc 75th Anniversary will require AT LEAST 5 cases of product to have even a chance at a full set (all 10 white lanterns). Thats a retail value of $750! (assuming a low average of $150 per case).

Giant Sized X-Men will require AT LEAST 4 cases of product to get all 8 super boosters (assuming no dupes) at a cost of $600. God help us if there are also chase figures!

I think the super boosters are a bad idea. Its like the HUGE figures in D&D miniatures which has no exactly been a popular or profitable model.

My question is how much will people sell a full set for?
I doubt people will be willing to pay over $500 for a full set.
$200-300 for a full set seems reasonable but now were talking $500-600...
Especially with diminishing locations to play the game and no convention attendance/support. I am thinking this might force me right out of this game.

traitorarmor
10/22/2010, 14:07
Giant Sized X-Men will require AT LEAST 4 cases of product to get all 8 super boosters (assuming no dupes) at a cost of $600. God help us if there are also chase figures!

Ok but you don't need to buy a brick to get a Super Booster. If thats how you want to go you can but that seems silly.

Buy your rgular brick/case #s and then just buy extra superboosters seperate (as the stores might have ordered their extra +1 per brick but they most definetly will have some on the self from the bircks/cases they opend to seel single boosters.


Without knowing more about if the superboosters (like what is in them, other than some big figs, and any regular set cross over contents) I would think that I might buy my regular case (only netting me 16 regular boosters instead of the 20 I'm accustom to) and plan to buy a few more boosters than just he selaed events I usually play in and possibly 2-4 Super boosters on top of that.

I still wont be pre-ordering anything from GSX without more info on the contents of the Super booster.

I, and my local venue, await this info.........but it is still early so it's cool for now.

tk1174
10/22/2010, 14:18
True, but there has to be some upper limit to the number of Super-Boosters out there. Only one per brick plus retailers can order extras but its not unlimited. At some point venues may not be willing to open a brick just to sell the super boosters...

Its too early to know for sure but it seems problematic to me.

I guess the only good thing is that if you dislike the secondary market, this format seems to discourage that since you would have to buy so many cases in order tomake full sets.

If it does end up cheaper to order a full set online I will definately go that route for this set!