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Next DC ATA will be........
Grumpygoat
10/25/2010, 20:20
Sinestro Corps is about as blatantly obvious as you can get. White Lanterns are another strong candidate.
DiscoHippo
10/25/2010, 20:23
Sinestro Corps are my single favorite DC group. no contest. I really want an ATA for them, and i really hope the new Sinestro turns out not to be a super rare
Fingers crossed for Birds Of Prey... Shadowpact would be nice too.
Probably Secret Six though. Neat, but I think Suicide Squad suits them just fine.
JDKenada
10/25/2010, 20:34
Sinestro Corps are my single favorite DC group. no contest. I really want an ATA for them, and i really hope the new Sinestro turns out not to be a super rare
Haven't seen the dial base for him, have you?
I would like something for Secret Six for an ATA, but hell an actual Ragdoll would just be nice.
I agree on either Sinestro Corps or Birds of Prey.
HeroclixFrank
10/25/2010, 20:36
Sinestro Corp is a no-brainer. Also, I can see a Brightest Day ata, since they bothered giving them the keyword.
Grumpygoat
10/25/2010, 20:37
Fingers crossed for Birds Of Prey... Shadowpact would be nice too.
Probably Secret Six though. Neat, but I think Suicide Squad suits them just fine.
Birds of Prey is doubtful, as they haven't really had a strong presence as of late. Unless they show up in DC 75 with a vengeance, they're unlikely to get an Alternate Team Ability. Shadowpact is a bit more likely due to Detective Chimp, but I'm still a bit dubious - I think we need more than the Chimp to give them a team ability.
Doom Patrol's a bit more likely, if only because Beast Boy will probably have 3-4 different figures in the set. Negative Man also strikes me as a character likely to show up in the set, as one of the few, notable character who has yet to be made.
You're likely right about the Secret Six and, yeah. I agree with you - they don't need an Alternate Team Ability.
Crazy Bee
10/25/2010, 20:46
I think the Sinestro is a Rare.
As for the topic, I'm not sure beyond the different Lantern Corps.
Grumpygoat
10/25/2010, 20:48
I think the Sinestro is a Rare.
As for the topic, I'm not sure beyond the different Lantern Corps.
He's a super rare. The sculpt alone gives it away.
This isn't really for this discussion but since it is slightly applicable and I feel it is perfectly legit:
I am one of the lucky few from the Orlando area that clicks at the Coliseum of Comics that already has a Sinestro Corps ATA
Tyroclix (my buddy, our judge, and fellow realmer) kept the game alive during the fallout by creating his own custom feat cards which he recently started posting in the artisan's guild. In his posts he explains how and why he came up with his feats - very good stuff - and he is one creative guy when it comes to this department, wizkids should hire him IMO.
Recently fellow player and realmer BLACKHEART25 hit up Tyroclix about ATAs, which got me thinking since I'm a HUGE GREEN LANTERN FAN, and I started working on my own ideas for a sinestro corps ATA. I ran my ideas by Tyro and with some fine tweeking on his end he/we came up with Coliseum of Comics TA001:
Sinestro Corps
Keywords: Sinestro Corps
A character using the Sinestro Corps team ability ignores modifiers on its attack and damage values given by opposing characters. When two friendly characters that can use the Sinestro Corps team ability are adjacent to each other and make either a ranged or close-combat attack, modify the defensive value of opposing characters by -1 for the duration of the attack. This team ability may not be copied by wildcards.
Cost 3
My personal designs behind this (Tyro's ideas may be similar and probably explained in better detail) was the meaning of the Sinestro Corps - FEAR. Since this is something they use against others I thought a defense reduction in the opposing character being attacked was appropriate, but I didn't want it to be broken hence the characters adjacentcy. Also I thought that their values shouldn't be able to be modified (somewhat of a Watchmen Light TA) due to the fear they instill in others, and Wa - La, our Sinestro Corps TA
Kind of funny now that the Dark Avenger ATA is very similar. Oh well, we were first.
And a big thanks always to our feat card artist and print master - BATCRAZEE who is a big part of the Tyroclix/BATCRAZEE duo. I'd show a picture of the ATA card, but my scanner is down. Maybe Tyroclix can hook you guys up.
Sharkbite
10/25/2010, 20:59
Sinestro Corp, Doom Patrol, Titans (not Teen Titans).
Or perhaps they'll go Lantern-Overboard and just give us ATAs for Sinestro, Red, Orange, Blue, Indigo and Saphire corps.
For Sinestro Corps, I suggest something similar to the Outsiders Mechanic. Sinestro Corp draws LoF to a figure and may declare them the target of Sinestro Corp TA as a free action. Targetted character may not use Willpower, Indominable, or Team Abilities to avoid pushing damage.
I'd love to see the Doom Patrol. One being the Standard Old Doom Patrol and the other being
"World's Strangest Heroes" something to represent Morrison's run.
For Sinestro Corps, I suggest something similar to the Outsiders Mechanic. Sinestro Corp draws LoF to a figure and may declare them the target of Sinestro Corp TA as a free action. Targetted character may not use Willpower, Indominable, or Team Abilities to avoid pushing damage.I like that one. That'll put the Fear into the opposition.
DarkLordVerjal
10/25/2010, 21:36
For Sinestro Corps, I suggest something similar to the Outsiders Mechanic. Sinestro Corp draws LoF to a figure and may declare them the target of Sinestro Corp TA as a free action. Targetted character may not use Willpower, Indominable, or Team Abilities to avoid pushing damage.
This I like...
I want my Justice League Antarctica ATA
Once per game you may assign a token to all character using this team ability. All non-clear outdoor terrain immediately becomes hindering and all objects are destroyed or removed from the game if they cannot be destroyed. All indoor terrain becomes hindering.
Roll one die for each character using this team ability. The total is the number of clicks of damage dealt to the entire enemy force that is in any terrain other than clear outdoor terrain. You may distribute this as you wish but every enemy character must be assigned at least one, if possible. Once this is done, deal one half this number to the characters that were using the team ability, with a minimum of one, if possible.
The enemy player scores +50% on any characters you KO yourself
darkjacen
10/25/2010, 22:33
Sinestro Corps seems possible. Maybe Black Lanterns as well?
Grumpygoat
10/25/2010, 22:35
I doubt we'll receive any Black Lanterns in the set and their traits already adequately cover what any team ability might do.
fastcat99
10/25/2010, 22:38
[QUOTE=Grumpygoat;5081256]Birds of Prey is doubtful, as they haven't really had a strong presence as of late. Unless they show up in DC 75 with a vengeance, they're unlikely to get an Alternate Team Ability. Shadowpact is a bit more likely due to Detective Chimp, but I'm still a bit dubious - I think we need more than the Chimp to give them a team ability.
Doom Patrol's a bit more likely, if only because Beast Boy will probably have 3-4 different figures in the set. Negative Man also strikes me as a character likely to show up in the set, as one of the few, notable character who has yet to be made.
QUOTE]
If they would do an ATA as "Danny the Street" where Doom Patrol members could make attacks against opposing characters who were on or adjacent to hindering terrain within X amount of spaces from them.........that would be neat.
Grumpygoat
10/25/2010, 22:53
If they would do an ATA as "Danny the Street" where Doom Patrol members could make attacks against opposing characters who were on or adjacent to hindering terrain within X amount of spaces from them.........that would be neat.
Danny never really attacked anyone, though. It'd be more appropriate for Danny to grant the Doom Patrol Phasing, Plasticity, or some other ability that deals with getting away or possibly hindering someone in a minor, but potentially crucial, way.
I'm a proud owner of Tyroclix's Sinestro Corps ATA. Like all of his customs, it's great. Now I just need some Corps to play with it.
I doubt we'll see a Birds of Prey ATA. "In Contact With Oracle" is, for all intents and purposes, a BoP ATA, even if it technically isn't an ATA at all. (Personally, I would have recast it as an ATA when I was rebuilding all the ATAs, were I WizKids, but I were not... um, am not WizKids, so I didn't, and neither did they.)
Bat-Dude
10/26/2010, 08:56
I see the Legion of Doom and Rogues have already been forgotten. I personally believe they 'deserve' the ATA treatment more than anyone else since the not-a-fix change to the IL TA and removal of The Society ATA as an option has rendered them completely useless. But, if the once angry masses have already forgotten, how can I expect WizKids to give a darn? Oh, that's right, they don't :cheeky:
Geof-Force
10/26/2010, 09:35
I'm hoping the Justice League finally get a useful ATA given the high point costs they members have, you barely notice the use of the standard JLA TA.
I'm hoping for the 4 ATAs in DC75 to be....
1) Sinestro Corps
2) Blackest Night (Keyword: Any Lantern Corps keyword -- not sure what the ATA would be, but if your whole team has this keyword, your team should get a theme team bonus)
3) Secret Six
4) Birds of Prey
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I see the Legion of Doom and Rogues have already been forgotten. I personally believe they 'deserve' the ATA treatment more than anyone else since the not-a-fix change to the IL TA and removal of The Society ATA as an option has rendered them completely useless. But, if the once angry masses have already forgotten, how can I expect WizKids to give a darn? Oh, that's right, they don't :cheeky:
My thought is that the next DC set will be Superman based with a Flash subtheme. I think we'll get a Legion of Doom ATA and a Rogue ATA in that set. That's my hope, at least.
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I see the Legion of Doom and Rogues have already been forgotten. I personally believe they 'deserve' the ATA treatment more than anyone else since the not-a-fix change to the IL TA and removal of The Society ATA as an option has rendered them completely useless. But, if the once angry masses have already forgotten, how can I expect WizKids to give a darn? Oh, that's right, they don't :cheeky:
See I think that despite his "Strength" I'd say Flash is on par with Thor in popularity and Spiderman in Terms of enemies.
I really want a FULL Flash set with a Rogues ATA.
I DEMAND BIG SIR!
I would love a Flash centric set! They can call it "Flash Museum"!
I would love a Flash centric set! They can call it "Flash Museum"!
I think "Speedforce" is a bit more marketable.
Rogues, Sinestro Corp, New Guardians, and White Lanterns are my hopes and guesses for atas
See I think that despite his "Strength" I'd say Flash is on par with Thor in popularity and Spiderman in Terms of enemies.
I really want a FULL Flash set with a Rogues ATA.
I DEMAND BIG SIR!
Something like this?
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5083218#post5083218
That's the flash set I want.
I doubt we'll receive any Black Lanterns in the set and their traits already adequately cover what any team ability might do.
Haven't we already seen Scar? Wasn't she the one by Saint Walker in the pics from the Alliance open house?
I see the Legion of Doom and Rogues have already been forgotten. I personally believe they 'deserve' the ATA treatment more than anyone else since the not-a-fix change to the IL TA and removal of The Society ATA as an option has rendered them completely useless. But, if the once angry masses have already forgotten, how can I expect WizKids to give a darn? Oh, that's right, they don't :cheeky:
Agreed! I'd love to rep you but apparently I need to spread it around first.
michiganj24
10/26/2010, 17:36
Actually I see BOP having more figs than Shadowpact (who I say Chimp and thats it)
BOP already has Black Alice
Hawk seems a near lock
and i can easily see either Huntress of Lady Blackhawk in the set
Birds of Prey is doubtful, as they haven't really had a strong presence as of late. Unless they show up in DC 75 with a vengeance, they're unlikely to get an Alternate Team Ability. Shadowpact is a bit more likely due to Detective Chimp, but I'm still a bit dubious - I think we need more than the Chimp to give them a team ability.
Doom Patrol's a bit more likely, if only because Beast Boy will probably have 3-4 different figures in the set. Negative Man also strikes me as a character likely to show up in the set, as one of the few, notable character who has yet to be made.
You're likely right about the Secret Six and, yeah. I agree with you - they don't need an Alternate Team Ability.
spike1138
10/26/2010, 17:40
I really want a Rogues TA. Sinestro Corps would be cool, too.
PaxZRake
10/26/2010, 20:17
Something like this?
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5083218#post5083218
That's the flash set I want.
An absence of Walter West, Dark Flash, makes me sad.
michiganj24
10/26/2010, 22:39
Drop Trickster 2 (blehh), Max Mercury (we just got one) and Arsenal
Replace with Walter West, Blacksmith and Infectious Lass
Something like this?
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5083218#post5083218
That's the flash set I want.
Sadly that sounds way too much like a drug ref
I think "Speedforce" is a bit more marketable.
Bat-Dude
10/27/2010, 09:11
An absence of Walter West, Dark Flash, makes me sad.
Drop Trickster 2 (blehh), Max Mercury (we just got one) and Arsenal
Replace with Walter West, Blacksmith and Infectious Lass
Thought I was the only one! He used to be one of my main wants in clix...but I've given up hope on ever seeing him clixed. Rep to you both, though.
Terman8er
10/27/2010, 09:57
ATA: Justice League of America
Prerequisites: JLA, Justice League or Justice League of America Keyword.
Figures with any one one of the prerequisite keywords are considered theme when on a team consisting of figures with at least one of the prerequisite keywords.
Cost: 0
ATA: Secret Six
Prerequisites: Secret Six Keyword
Whenever a friendly figure is KO'd every Secret Six team member gains +1:g-starburst: and +1 :d-normal:/:d-indomitable: until the end of the next turn.
Cost: 8
Note: I am trying to word that Secret Six one so that the benifits last until the end of the player's next turn, the player that controls the Secret Six figures.
Something like this?
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5083218#post5083218
That's the flash set I want.
Nice set! If I could design the next DC set, my set (as I mentioned earlier in this thread) would be a hybrid of Flash and Superman. This would be the one I would make:
1) Barry Allen (AE)
2) Gorilla Generic
3) Keystone City Police Generic
4) Metropolis Police Generic
5) Superman
6) Parasite
7) Live Wire
8) Johnny Quick
9) K-Squad Generic
10) Intergang Agent Generic
11) Brainiac Robot Generic
12) Silver Banshee
13) Power-Ring
14) Tarpit
15) Captain Cold
16) The Flash (Barry -- AE)
17) The Flash (Wally West)
18) Girder
19) Rose and Thorn duo
20) Superwoman (Lois Lane)
21) Ursa
22) Bruno Manheim
23) Murmur
24) Supergirl
25) Iris Allen
26) Lois Lane
27) Prankster
28) Trickster (Axel)
29) Brainiac 5
30) Jesse Quick (Liberty Belle)
31) Guardian
32) Mirror Master
33) Solivar
34) Owlman
35) General Lane
36) Double Down
37) The Fiddler
38) Lobo
39) Jimmy Olsen
40) Superwoman (Lucy Lane)
41) Mon 'El
42) Heatwave
43) Non
44) Reactron
45) Superboy
46) Nightwing and Flamebird duo
47) Lex Luthor (Battlesuit)
48) Professor Zoom
49) Ultraman
50) Weather Wizard
51) Mongul
52) The Golden Glider
53) Bizarro
54) Pied Piper
55) The Turtle
56) Brainiac
57) General Zod
58) Mr. Mxy
59) Atlas
60) Flash (Jay) and GL (Alan) duo
Thoughts?
C
ATA: Justice League of America
Prerequisites: JLA, Justice League or Justice League of America Keyword.
Figures with any one one of the prerequisite keywords are considered theme when on a team consisting of figures with at least one of the prerequisite keywords.
Cost: 0
I know that it annoys some people that the League is broken up, but it really makes sense to me. That being said, I could get behind something like:
Justice League Reserves (feat)
Prerequisites: JLA, Justice League, Justice League of America, Justice League Europe, or Justice League International keywords (Yes, I'm purposely ignore Antartica and Super Buddies)
This figure is considered to have any one other keyword on the prerequisite list for theme team and feat assignment purposes.
Cost: 2
The Leagues do call in former members in particular cases. I see no reason you couldn't have a feat like this.
Nice set! If I could design the next DC set, my set (as I mentioned earlier in this thread) would be a hybrid of Flash and Superman. This would be the one I would make:
1) Barry Allen (AE)
2) Gorilla Generic
3) Keystone City Police Generic
4) Metropolis Police Generic
5) Superman
6) Parasite
7) Live Wire
8) Johnny Quick
9) K-Squad Generic
10) Intergang Agent Generic
11) Brainiac Robot Generic
12) Silver Banshee
13) Power-Ring
14) Tarpit
15) Captain Cold
16) The Flash (Barry -- AE)
17) The Flash (Wally West)
18) Girder
19) Rose and Thorn duo
20) Superwoman (Lois Lane)
21) Ursa
22) Bruno Manheim
23) Murmur
24) Supergirl
25) Iris Allen
26) Lois Lane
27) Prankster
28) Trickster (Axel)
29) Brainiac 5
30) Jesse Quick (Liberty Belle)
31) Guardian
32) Mirror Master
33) Solivar
34) Owlman
35) General Lane
36) Double Down
37) The Fiddler
38) Lobo
39) Jimmy Olsen
40) Superwoman (Lucy Lane)
41) Mon 'El
42) Heatwave
43) Non
44) Reactron
45) Superboy
46) Nightwing and Flamebird duo
47) Lex Luthor (Battlesuit)
48) Professor Zoom
49) Ultraman
50) Weather Wizard
51) Mongul
52) The Golden Glider
53) Bizarro
54) Pied Piper
55) The Turtle
56) Brainiac
57) General Zod
58) Mr. Mxy
59) Atlas
60) Flash (Jay) and GL (Alan) duo
Thoughts?
C
I really like this. i wanted to add Double Down and a few others(Walter) to mine but couldn;t figure out who to drop.
What if you just had generic police figures with the Keystone and Metropolis key words? that could open up another slot. Or would they really have that different of powers that they need different figures.
Rep incoming.
edit: no rep sorry, i just repped you for the idea of the set. Seeing the actual set though is much cooler.
I like this list! Some notes:
Nice set! If I could design the next DC set, my set (as I mentioned earlier in this thread) would be a hybrid of Flash and Superman. This would be the one I would make:
19) Rose and Thorn duo
I know of two different "Rose and Thorn"'s in the DCU, but both of them are split-personalities, so, um... duo? Unless it's the two different Thorns teaming up across time... not going to be a duo.
That said, I'd do the happy dance of joy for a Thorn (Rose Forrest) figure.
29) Brainiac 5
Yes, please! He needs a remake so badly. He wasn't even a good rendition of Brainy when he first came out, power creep has reduced him to nigh impotence.
39) Jimmy Olsen
Someone suggested a Jimmy Olsen AE that can turn into Elastic Lad, Giant Turtle Boy, a werewolf, etc. I would auction off names of my grandchildren to WizKids for this. : - )
41) Mon 'El
This one... the Mon-el we got from Origins is still perfectly playable, despite power creep, so I'd favor filling this slot with some other legion piece. Like White Witch, with Mystic TA, so the Legion has something else to copy.
THanks for the feedback, guys!
Re: Rose and Thorn -- Good call....not sure why I put duo there. Brain fart.
Re: Cops -- Another good call. Another generic I was considering for the list is a generic Mirror Master that would interact with the regular MM fig. Perhaps he could take that spot.
Re: Mon El -- I agree that his Origins fig is still really good, but in a set that is Superman themed (more specifically, World of New Krypton themed), I just couldn't see leaving him out, since he was the main character of the Supes comic during that story arc. I would definitely love to see other Legionaires over his remake, though. Where's my Sensor Girl? Earth Man? Sun Boy? And, we need a Quislet, like, three sets ago.
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Sinestro Corps, obviously.
Every Lantern Corps/Tribe outside the GL (who already got one) should get an ATA separatively or something that make them worthwile to be played together as a single combination.
As a big Rogues player, I must say that the combination of Calculator+Injustice League does well with them (provided you play one of the few IL Rogues, but who wouldn't play Dr Alchemy?), so I'm not in a hurry to get them an ATA.
Shadowpact has Mystics, no need for something else.
But as stated before, another ATA for the Justice League would be useful. That, and a Legion Of Super-Villains one of course (with more figures).
Herrbrane
10/29/2010, 09:45
deffinately secret six
michiganj24
10/29/2010, 17:19
Yep Yep The Six is clix
Sinestro Corps, obviously.
Every Lantern Corps/Tribe outside the GL (who already got one) should get an ATA separatively or something that make them worthwile to be played together as a single combination.
They definitely need to give us an ATA that allows Blue Lanterns and Green Lanterns to be played as a themed team. Especially after seeing Saint Walker. How lame would it be to not be able to use his +2 perplex (only on green lantern keywords) ability in a themed team?
GraveTheDarkestHero
11/14/2010, 02:41
Well i definitely think that all the lanterns need a ata and most will get them. BUT moving away from them. Lets hope to see a Teen Titan's, JLA, Titan's (thats deathstrokes new team right?) and maybe a crime syndicate ata not to say the team ability is bad or anything but unless they make more figs for them than some of the older ones need something more to make them playable. I picture they can use stealth if they cant already and they ignore hindering terrain for movement purposes. and maybe a rouges ata but who knows i guess we will just have to wait and see.
anonym0use
11/14/2010, 11:55
Originally ATAs were put in place to give teams that had somewhat cumbersome abilities a chance to do something useful. To me, an X-Force ATA is a joke - sure it makes them better, but I could argue they didn't need it the way the Masters of Evil need an ATA. Now the Outlaws? That's a decent ATA for the bunch of lousy Wild Card figs they are.
As far as DC goes - I'm not concerned about the Lantern Corps getting ATAs.Sinestro Corps is a competitive theme regardless of printed TAs. I'd rather see established figures that lack competitiveness get a boost. For instance:
Doom Patrol desperately needs an ATA for the cost of the Outsiders TA which drags them down. Ditto Legion of Doom and the IL/SE TAs. The Rogues need an ATA to deal with all the Wild Card synergy issues they have.
Teams like the BoP and Secret Six have enough going for them (namely the Bat Ally TA, and the Squad TA) that to pass over some other more obvious, better suited choices would be a shame.
Doom Patrol desperately needs an ATA for the cost of the Outsiders TA which drags them down.What the Doom Patrol really needs is a roster of playable figures that are remotely worth their points. They got the Chief and vet. Elongated Man, and that's about it.
Teams like the BoP and Secret Six have enough going for them (namely the Bat Ally TA, and the Squad TA) that to pass over some other more obvious, better suited choices would be a shame.Birds Of Prey have a really aweful lineup. Using In Contact... as a sort of ATA helps a bit, but they're still a fun team that doesn't get to win very often.
Actually I'd say Rita Farr is also a Fantastic Figure.
She's certainly playable, but I would't rate her higher than mediocre.
ChiRocker
11/16/2010, 18:29
Sinestro Corp, Doom Patrol, Titans (not Teen Titans).
Or perhaps they'll go Lantern-Overboard and just give us ATAs for Sinestro, Red, Orange, Blue, Indigo and Saphire corps.
For Sinestro Corps, I suggest something similar to the Outsiders Mechanic. Sinestro Corp draws LoF to a figure and may declare them the target of Sinestro Corp TA as a free action. Targetted character may not use Willpower, Indominable, or Team Abilities to avoid pushing damage.
Technically, "Teen Titans" would make a great ATA, as the current one is, and has always been "Titans".
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