“Nothing’s ever easy in Easy…”

[WizKidsNECA]

Today’s preview is a double-barreled shot of combat action as we check in with men of Easy Company.
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[Quebbster]

Dials:
#001 E Easy Company Soldier
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 6 :bolt:
Points: 30
Keywords: Past, Soldier
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal79162681526814157131KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKODamage - Minion: Commanding officer: Whenever a friendly character with the Soldier keyword and point value of 50 or higher is within 8 squares, Easy Company Soldier can use Running Shot and modifes his attack value by +1.

#017 V Sgt. Rock
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 6 :bolt:
Points: 68
Keywords: Past, Soldier
m-normala-normald-indomitableg-normal710172691726101736916268162KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOTrait - The Rock of Easy Co.: Friendly characters under 50 points, with the Soldier keyword, and within 8 squares can use Willpower if they can’t already.

[Troma99]

Yup going to be stalking up on Easy Company Grunts.

[DrZero]

Oh HECK yeah.

Rock, two Easy Company soldiers, and HoT Cap would make an amazingly good soldier theme team.

[eagletsi]

Those Grunts are amazing, with that SP for 30 points. I'm going to be afraid to face the Cap, Rock and Grunts team you mentioned.


Oh HECK yeah.

Rock, two Easy Company soldiers, and HoT Cap would make an amazingly good soldier theme team.

[theavengerthor]

There is a great synergy between these pieces. Other than having little to no way to break through damage reducing powers, 7 Grunts and 1 Sgt. Rock would make for a decent 300 point team. Of course you'd end up 22 pts shy of your build total, so maybe there will be an Easy Company ATA included? Or possibly a LE figure that will round out the points a bit better, while offering a slightly higher damage output to help with the damage reducers? We'll have to wait and see.

[jackstar7]

Free Willpower for all cheap Soldiers? DANG!

Soldiers might stand a chance against Amazons now...

[michiganj24]

Was their complaints that Soldier was not good enough lol//?
Yipees So far not really a let down in previews unlike in WOS where some of them were less than overwhelming I just hope Bane, Chimp and Cyclone live up to these

[rwint1968]

Loving It! The Easy Company and Sgt. Rock were long overdue for remakes and WK/Neca didn't disappoint. Thanks for more great previews, this set is GONNA ROCK!

:cool:

[Jarimy123]

Yea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Definitely fall in the category of happy to see these remade. Awesome.

[charlesx]

The generics in the game keep getting better and better! Look forward to pulling multiples of these! :cool:

[Jarimy123]

Here's the pics

[Crow]

These are great pieces - but an observation I'd make is that a field of these guys with Sgt. Rock wouldn't be able to hurt any Invulnerable piece short of a critical hit, so even with Willpower they would be in for a bumpy ride. It's probably good to field someone like Nick Fury or a Punisher... or if you want to stay in DC, maybe sub in Montgomery Kelly (a Soldier with Outwit AND he brings in the PD TA!)

[robedestroyer]

Interesting take on Sgt. Rock. I think this will need to be a "wait and see" to find out just how good he'll end up being. I just did a quick search in the Units section and I think there are a handful of figures that would be even better to pair up with him than the Easy Company Soldiers.

[Jarimy123]

Would it be very comic accurate if these guys could break invulnerability? I mean aren't these just a bunch of regular soldiers?

If I'm wrong correct me, but I'm not sure that them being able to hurt Superman would make much sense to me.

[robedestroyer]

Would it be very comic accurate if these guys could break invulnerability? I mean aren't these just a bunch of regular soldiers?

If I'm wrong correct me, but I'm not sure that them being able to hurt Superman would make much sense to me.

Very true, but using that argument could backfire. Does it make sense for Captain America to hurt Superman? Should Wolverine be able to do that kind of damage to Superman, Hulk, Thor, you name it? You can't argue comic accuracy, but you can argue game balance. If these guys had above a 2 damage, then there could be issues with game balance in a swarm team.

[Munchoboy]

Very true, but using that argument could backfire. Does it make sense for Captain America to hurt Superman? Should Wolverine be able to do that kind of damage to Superman, Hulk, Thor, you name it? You can't argue comic accuracy, but you can argue game balance. If these guys had above a 2 damage, then there could be issues with game balance in a swarm team.

Yes, both Wolverine and Captain America should be able to damage, even slightly, Superman, Spider-Man, etc...

In both instances, you're talking about enhanced humans (or enhanced mutant in Wolverine's case) with extraordinary skill, precision, and weapons.

The men from Easy, while formidable in their own right, utilize weapons that are from 60-70 years ago. There is a significant difference here. ;)

I am quite pleased with the design behind the men from Easy, and feel that they are appropriately balanced in regards to the larger Clix universe.

[I Am The Game]

Awesome.

No one's complaining about the Combat Reflexes, so I guess it's okay, but I would've figured on Energy Shield/Deflection instead. I picture them dug in and having a firefight, or trying to find a weak spot in a tank, rather than getting into close combat.

[robedestroyer]

Yes, both Wolverine and Captain America should be able to damage, even slightly, Superman, Spider-Man, etc...


Spider-Man is a completely different story. But really, you're reaching if you're telling me Captain America is going to hurt Superman. Wolverine's claws wouldn't scratch him. At least translating "comic damage" into the game, I don't think Wolverine would do 4 damage (after reducers) if you're looking for true comic accuracy. Maybe 1 damage that he shrugs off and recoups from if they get a really really good hit in.

[Munchoboy]

Spider-Man is a completely different story. But really, you're reaching if you're telling me Captain America is going to hurt Superman. Wolverine's claws wouldn't scratch him. At least translating "comic damage" into the game, I don't think Wolverine would do 4 damage (after reducers) if you're looking for true comic accuracy. Maybe 1 damage that he shrugs off and recoups from if they get a really really good hit in.

We are heading dangerously into the territory of Nerd-oneupmanship here.

You say one thing, I say another. :rolleyes:

Regardless, notice while I say they could damage these folk, I never said they should win.

[songwriterz]

I'm no DC fan and I have no intention of buying any DC 75th except for what is required for sealed play.

But I have much want for both of these figs and lots and lots of the generics!

[Thorgrin]

There's an easy fix to it. In golden age, just add in contact with oracle or armor piercing.

Done.

Think they look good. Knowing my luck, I'll pull just Sgt. Rock and no easy company soldiers.

[Incred-i-boy]

OK, I should settle down but it's the day after Veteran's Day and Wizkids gives us a repainted Easy Company figure as Sgt. Rock! Are you kidding! C'MON!

[Herrbrane]

They are amazing.
Though I would have liked them to have a special power that was called "Grenades!" and it would normally do energy explosion. However, to show the effect of throwing a grenade under a tank, that if someone has impervious/invuln they get to do 3 damage (without the EE)

[robedestroyer]

OK, I should settle down but it's the day after Veteran's Day and Wizkids gives us a repainted Easy Company figure as Sgt. Rock! Are you kidding! C'MON!

Just wait, maybe we can get an Easy Company Medic too! They are worth taking up 3 slots in DC 75th, right?


...maybe?



...probably not. :tired:

[Previously Banned]

Loving It! The Easy Company and Sgt. Rock were long overdue for remakes and WK/Neca didn't disappoint. Thanks for more great previews, this set is GONNA ROCK!

:cool:

That was a horrible pun. Rep for you.

[DoubleA]

Captain Metropolis I would like you to meet your new NCO Seargeant Rock. Your enhancement will be appreciated.

Checkmate Black Knights please meet your new squad mates Easy Company. Willpower looks good on you.

[themonkey]

Yay!!!

I'm really looking forward to playing Rock and Easy Company. I like the repaint on Sgt. Rock. It looks great. One benefit of having re-painted pieces is the Easy Company Soldiers look just as bad-### as their commander.

I ordered my case last night. I hope I get a bunch of these.

And great keywords on both!

[WhoaDirty]

These are great pieces - but an observation I'd make is that a field of these guys with Sgt. Rock wouldn't be able to hurt any Invulnerable piece short of a critical hit, so even with Willpower they would be in for a bumpy ride. It's probably good to field someone like Nick Fury or a Punisher... or if you want to stay in DC, maybe sub in Montgomery Kelly (a Soldier with Outwit AND he brings in the PD TA!)

Combine the grunts with some Thunderers of Qward for great synergy. Damn, I guess the price of ToQ might go up now. :(

[origamiman]

Ummmmm...these guys are awesome for any soldier-themed team. Since their minion powers are based on a common DC AND MARVEL keyword instead of a specific figure, they bring great versatility to a soldier team and are amazingly good for their points. What team doesn’t want leadership, shared 17 defense and free willpower? Awesome. Sculpts? Meh.

[Rokk_Krinn]

Longtime fan of Frank and Co. so thrilled to see they're a preview for today.

One thing I find surprising - it's actually easier to hit Frank in melee than it is his soldiers. (Much as I love their comic, having to hit an 18 seems a bit...high. Then again, it's a nice balance to some of the other minions out there.)

[Mabus]

Hitting an 18 up close on a bunch of swarming soldiers could prove to be quite a pain in the butt. I believe these guys could prove to be much better than some might initially think.

[gatharion]

Awesome, another set of figures that I was looking forward to. I like how Rock's trait can be used with the Easy Company soldiers and medics of Cosmic Justice.

[Clickin'nutz!]

I should have known today's preview would be the easy company and sgt. rock since we already knew we were getting them anyways. They look great maybe the medic will be an le.

[anonym0use]

Just wait, maybe we can get an Easy Company Medic too! They are worth taking up 3 slots in DC 75th, right?


...maybe?



...probably not. :tired:

Maybe an LE?

[Ignatz_Mouse]

Longtime fan of Frank and Co. so thrilled to see they're a preview for today.

One thing I find surprising - it's actually easier to hit Frank in melee than it is his soldiers. (Much as I love their comic, having to hit an 18 seems a bit...high. Then again, it's a nice balance to some of the other minions out there.)


It makes sense to me--

Easy Co guys are pinned down by gunfire, what do they do? Charge to base the enemy!

[Gentlegamer]

Would it be very comic accurate if these guys could break invulnerability? I mean aren't these just a bunch of regular soldiers?
They should be able to hurt a tank, perhaps with captured panzerfausts . . .

[Superclone]

And there goes the neighbourhood. As much as I am happy for these guys to be included ... this team just looks obscenely powerful for its points.

Seriously - this team is going to be unbelievably useful - but for the points I'm getting mighty concerned about pieces from just a few sets ago maintaining their relevance, let alone ones from farther back.

[Gentlegamer]

Include Liliah as a French Cabaret Dancer helping the Americans, and Easy Company can pierce Invulnerability . . .

[Ignatz_Mouse]

And there goes the neighbourhood. As much as I am happy for these guys to be included ... this team just looks obscenely powerful for its points.

Seriously - this team is going to be unbelievably useful - but for the points I'm getting mighty concerned about pieces from just a few sets ago maintaining their relevance, let alone ones from farther back.


Really? The Easy guys are good, but naked in defense from range. And Rock's not that cheap. Compare to Cap A, for instance. And none of them do 3 damage, and their range is short.

They seem well-balanced to me.

[Gentlegamer]

Easy Co goes on a mission behind enemy lines and para-drops in with Polish patriots (E Blackhawks) to harass the German armor lines . . .

[Sorry for all the posts, but these keep coming to me]

[mikeinmke]

need i repeat myself (and others)?.... another static stance... while the detail on the sculpt appears more than satisfactory, could we please see a little more tension/action in the portrayals?...

[TheRedHood]

they are like chocolate and peanut butter... mmmmmm. I do miss the PD team ability, but I assume that keeps the cost down. I for one will be rounding up an old Sgt Rock and swapping sculpts. This one is a little stiff.

[Neff]

So having Sgt. Rock on the field effectively turns the Easy Company Soldier into this:

#001 E Easy Company Soldier
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 6 :bolt:
Points: 30
Keywords: Past, Soldier
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Yikes.

[Gentlegamer]

So having Sgt. Rock on the field effectively turns the Easy Company Soldier into this:

#001 E Easy Company Soldier
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 6 :bolt:
Points: 30
Keywords: Past, Soldier
m-normala-normald-indomitableg-normal710162691526914158131KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

Yikes.Not just Sgt. Rock, but any 50+ point character with Soldier keyword.

Solo and Captain America would make good leaders.

[reklawyad]

I'm ok with these guys, but I would have liked to have scene a little PD love on the Team, but I'll still want me some of them as they are quite nice together.

[reklawyad]

ws017 E H.A.M.M.E.R. Elite Operative
Team: S.H.I.E.L.D.
Range: 6 :bolt:
Points: 48
Keywords: H.A.M.M.E.R., Soldier
m-boota-fistd-shieldg-starburst89172691626816268152KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO
(Damage) Minion: Upper Chain of Command: When a friendly character with the H.A.M.M.E.R. keyword named Norman Osborn or Iron Patriot is within 8 squares, H.A.M.M.E.R. Elite Operative can use Stealth and modifies his attack value by +2.

Plus Sgt Rock and Norman or Iron Patriot wow... now that makes some nasty peoples

[Thrumble Funk]

YES! Now HoT Cap and my Blackhawks have some playmates! LOVE these guys!

[reklawyad]

Add in the Captain Metropolis from Watchmen for the enhancement and now he gets willpower as well ooooohhhhh buddy that's nasty

[Ignatz_Mouse]

get Captain Metropolis to his third click, and get him a Rock next to some of these guys... potent!

[Rokk_Krinn]

It makes sense to me--

Easy Co guys are pinned down by gunfire, what do they do? Charge to base the enemy!

Yeah, but 18?

That means people with an 11 attack - folks like Batman and Spidey - have only a 50/50 chance of pegging an Easy Co. member in close-combat. Someone like the Persuader packing a 10 AV has less chance and then you get Superman at his 9 AV if based by an Easy Co. soldier. They should be a handful, don't get me wrong, but 18 in CC is...huge.

[thundertoad]

What's the deal with the sculpts?

Remember back in the days of Cosmic Justice we got three different ssculpts for the easy Co. members

and way more dinamic poses...

man this is getting frustrating
at least the dials spoiled are quite good

[Ignatz_Mouse]

Yeah, but 18?

That means people with an 11 attack - folks like Batman and Spidey - have only a 50/50 chance of pegging an Easy Co. member in close-combat. Someone like the Persuader packing a 10 AV has less chance and then you get Superman at his 9 AV if based by an Easy Co. soldier. They should be a handful, don't get me wrong, but 18 in CC is...huge.


Well, you are right. I was focusing on the fact that they are likely to get hit a lot before getting in close.

[DarkCorsair]

ws017 E H.A.M.M.E.R. Elite Operative
Team: S.H.I.E.L.D.
Range: 6 :bolt:
Points: 48
Keywords: H.A.M.M.E.R., Soldier
m-boota-fistd-shieldg-starburst89172691626816268152KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO
(Damage) Minion: Upper Chain of Command: When a friendly character with the H.A.M.M.E.R. keyword named Norman Osborn or Iron Patriot is within 8 squares, H.A.M.M.E.R. Elite Operative can use Stealth and modifies his attack value by +2.

Plus Sgt Rock and Norman or Iron Patriot wow... now that makes some nasty peoples

Good grief - that dial with an 11/10 attack, stealth, and willpower? And some SHIELD TA to boost range/damage as needed? Sign me up!

[Thrumble Funk]

Also, WK, can we get a WW II keyword? Kthnxbai!

[CowboyBebop]

These guys alone will make buying a brick/case worth it. I love generics and Sgt. Rock rocks.

[hanzoslash]

I have to agree with the previous posts that having a notable unique character as a repainted generic is a bit of a fail.

Stat and powers wise they are a win.

[2 Gun Kid]

YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!

Them plus Blackhawks plus Little Sure Shot!!

Still to this day one of may favorite themes before themes came out was Easy Company Invaders!

[themonkey]

So having Sgt. Rock on the field effectively turns the Easy Company Soldier into this:

#001 E Easy Company Soldier
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 6 :bolt:
Points: 30
Keywords: Past, Soldier
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Yikes.

You forgot to give them 17 defense across the dial.

Double Yikes!

[Soldan]

they could have at least put the sarge in a different pose from his men. They might as well return to the colored ring concept.

[DeadpoolDX]

I want to team Sgt Rock up with Phalanx soldiers and see what kind of damage i can do

[pumawag]

I just can't resist these things:

"Sgt. Rock Is Going to Help Me" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfrQDQfbRJY)

All that aside, looks good, nice trait for Sgt. Rock...

Common figures - static sculpts=cheaper production

Rare figures - more dynamic, see through plastic=cost more............

I can only see it as keeping the cost down for us consumers.


:squareeye

[Count_Aight]

Too many grunts for Rock! I'm sure somebody has mentioned Checkmate Black Knights and Rocky. That seems wrong in the right way!

[FFFAN]

Lame sculpts. As a customer and player, I don't care about cost reduction. Boosters aren't cheap.

There are a lot of good covers to inspire a better sculpt. Something like this would be way better for Rock:

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/File:Sgt._Rock_Vol_2_20.jpg

[Tim Drake]

Wow. All my friends have learned to fear my army of Blackhawks led by Uncle Sam... pair Sgt. Rock and a few of the Easy boys up with them and... holy flip.

[Tim Drake]

Lame sculpts. As a customer and player, I don't care about cost reduction. Boosters aren't cheap.

There are a lot of good covers to inspire a better sculpt. Something like this would be way better for Rock:

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/File:Sgt._Rock_Vol_2_20.jpg

Then you know what? Put one of the old Sgt. Rock sculpts on the new base. A rookie Rock will probably run you a quarter at most.

[cartoonist93]

My veteran easy company medic should come in handy when I put my easy company team together.

[Cyaegha]

Grunts are cool. However, I'm still mixed about Rock : the V version from Cosmic Justice was just so great for the points, and PD TA is something the new one doesn't have...
On the other hand : new Rock+7 new grunts leave you with 22 points that can easily be spent in a V Easy Company medic that will bring you the TA+Support, just in case...

[SilverAgeFlash]

The checkmate people seem like the guys to go to for Rock and crew.

Mad Marie and Checkmate Knight Black help with Dam. Add some Pawns and the CHeckmate Ata (Also to help with Dam output and they will get WP to use it more ofter thanks to WP)

Rock 68
Pawn x1
Knight x2
Mad Marie
Parademon Scout

That leaves like 7 points after playing the CM ata, thats pretty awsome.

[HigherCalibur]

HA040 Captain America
AV050 Winter Soldier
Sgt. Rock
Easy Company Soldier x3
=300 points even
:D

[WhoaDirty]

Lame sculpts. As a customer and player, I don't care about cost reduction. Boosters aren't cheap.

There are a lot of good covers to inspire a better sculpt. Something like this would be way better for Rock:

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/File:Sgt._Rock_Vol_2_20.jpg

Cheap is a relative term. I pay (minimum) $3.80 a fig for unbuilt, unpainted Warhammer 40k figs, whereas HC figs are $1.20 (by the booster).

Personally I don't think the sculpts need to be in action poses, so I am liking how they seem be using covers from "first appearances" for a lot of these sculpts. Although the cover you linked would have made a cool Sgt. Rock FFFAN.

[elfholme]

Awesome.

No one's complaining about the Combat Reflexes, so I guess it's okay, but I would've figured on Energy Shield/Deflection instead. I picture them dug in and having a firefight, or trying to find a weak spot in a tank, rather than getting into close combat.

Yeah, I'm confused by that as well. 18D up close (higher if they're adjacent to Rock)? These guys are a bit better than normal soldiers, but they're still just WWII troopers, not super-ninjas.

Yeah, they're great generics game-wise. But how the heck does this dial fit a member of Easy Co.? I like the RS, I like the synergy with Rock, I like the WP...but the CR shouldn't be on the dial. IMO ES/D would be a MUCH better fit, as they're actually trained to hunker down to avoid getting shot up. That would have felt more "WWII trooper" to me.

But what the heck...they're out there, they're generics with good dials...I'll be collecting them.

[Tim Drake]

Yeah, they're great generics game-wise. But how the heck does this dial fit a member of Easy Co.? I like the RS, I like the synergy with Rock, I like the WP...but the CR shouldn't be on the dial. IMO ES/D would be a MUCH better fit, as they're actually trained to hunker down to avoid getting shot up. That would have felt more "WWII trooper" to me.

It's almost like the dial had two designers. One that viewed them as "trench troopers," another who was thinking "fix bayonets!"

Still, I can deal.

[xanosaucy]

Man I am loving this set! Another great preview! Remember guys our boys are trained slightly how to defend themselves in hand to hand combat, but I would have preferred their defenses to have been nekkid.

[Rokk_Krinn]

Man I am loving this set! Another great preview! Remember guys our boys are trained slightly how to defend themselves in hand to hand combat, but I would have preferred their defenses to have been nekkid.

I'd like to think that my time in the military made it so Thor has only a 50/50 chance to hit me (when I'm backed by Rock)...but that could be ego talking. :grin:

[Jarimy123]

Dynamic sculpts on generic commons? Really? You kids are now whining about the sculpts for generic figures not having "dynamic!" sculpts?

What the hell do you want them to be doing exactly? Running thru smoke with tiny guns that actually shoot? Light up exploding grenades and removable helmets? You have got to be kidding me.

And using the same sculpt with different paint for minions/generics has been going on for awhile now. Time to move on and accept it. Better then not having generics.

[Rokk_Krinn]

What the hell do you want them to be doing exactly? Running thru smoke with tiny guns that actually shoot?

Absolutely! This way when I'm losing I can use the gun to end things in a stalemate. :devious:

[Jarimy123]

*BOOM*

I think you get the points for any figs KO'd by gunshot man, so you'd win.

[veguto]

I didn't see anyone post this yet, but if Hal and John have the Soldier keyword there is potential for an awesome soldier theme in this set alone.

[Gargantua]

They're so nice, I'll almost not miss the PDTA. Almost.

[commandercool]

I like 'em. The grunts and the sarge seem pretty great, and together they're even better. I don't know that they'll be heavily played, though. Hammer generics with Norman are pretty comparable and I've never seen anyone use those. It's nice to see the Past keyword get some use on stuff other than time travelers, too.

[Granite Moose]

As a big fan of the Sarge and Easy Co., I am quite happy they are getting represented again. And the fact that they are very playable is just the icing on the cake. :cool:

[Gentlegamer]

Dynamic sculpts on generic commons? Really? You kids are now whining about the sculpts for generic figures not having "dynamic!" sculpts?

What the hell do you want them to be doing exactly? How about looking like soldiers fighting in WWII and not standing around waiting for a bus?

And using the same sculpt with different paint for minions/generics has been going on for awhile now. Time to move on and accept it.We should never ever just accept anything we don't like in a product offered to us for sale. Particularly when there is much better precedent in the product line for different sculpts, even during the old REV days.

Better then not having generics.If NECA is just going to pad sets with repaints of the same sculpt for generics, yes, I'd rather not have generics, unless they are going back to 96+ character sets again.

[shwa96]

Those dials are kind of awesome together.

[Steelmage2000]

I just love that trait on Sgt. Rock, it is usuable on so many other types of characters with soldier keyword and 50 or less points.

[ChiyoChan]

Throw on Hammer of Thor Captain America for the quick bang and you got a awesome swarm solider team.

[Jarimy123]

We should never ever just accept anything we don't like in a product offered to us for sale. Particularly when there is much better precedent in the product line for different sculpts, even during the old REV days.


I believe you have two options then. Accept it and continue to buy the product, which you obviously continue to do or else you wouldn't even be posting these comments - or stop buying Heroclix. Maybe Neca has reduced the quality of sets by making repaints of sculpts, I mean I don't think it has, and the mass amounts of clix being bought tells me that it hasn't affected anything - but if you believe it to be an inferior product to the "good ol' days", then get out of the game.

Complaining about the Easy Company Soldier sculpt not being dynamic enough is an indescribably weak argument to try and back up your claims.

[Rokk_Krinn]

How about looking like soldiers fighting in WWII and not standing around waiting for a bus?


I, honestly, don't have a problem with the pose because it's a pretty common one for Rock and Easy Co. I can't keep track of the number of comics - which I'm sure you are also aware - where they come slogging in all tired with their guns at rest...but not entirely...they never totally sling up their rifles because they know the second you do, that's when the War claims you.

Walking onto the field as tired battle-worn angels of death - that's Easy Co. and I can almost see that in the sculpt.

[elfholme]

Man I am loving this set! Another great preview! Remember guys our boys are trained slightly how to defend themselves in hand to hand combat, but I would have preferred their defenses to have been nekkid.

Me too. I think a 16D (17 when backed by Rock) would have sufficiently represented normal humans who have gone through basic infantry training. ;)

[Tim Drake]

Not sure if anyone's thought of this, but how about using Sgt. Rock and Easy Company to fill out some points on a Guardians of the Galaxy team using the soldier keyworded pieces? Bug would get Willpower from Rock, and Easy Company could be spread out a little farther and still get their Minion power boost from Star-Lord and Rocket Raccoon.

[sylnzz]

We have our second cheapest Indomitable piece Sgt..Rock.

[gatharion]

Not just Sgt. Rock, but any 50+ point character with Soldier keyword.

Solo and Captain America would make good leaders.

Rock is necessary for them to have that Indomitable showing.

Dynamic sculpts on generic commons? Really? You kids are now whining about the sculpts for generic figures not having "dynamic!" sculpts?

What the hell do you want them to be doing exactly? Running thru smoke with tiny guns that actually shoot? Light up exploding grenades and removable helmets? You have got to be kidding me.

And using the same sculpt with different paint for minions/generics has been going on for awhile now. Time to move on and accept it. Better then not having generics.

What's wrong with wanting dynamic sculpts on the figures that you'll be seeing the most of?

[gatharion]

Can we please please please PLEASE get some generic nazis for Easy Co/Black Hawks/Invaders/JSA/etc to fight?

[Tim Drake]

Can we please please please PLEASE get some generic nazis for Easy Co/Black Hawks/Invaders/JSA/etc to fight?

Seconded! Please!!

[spike1138]

I want a bunch of Easy Company grunts. I plan on being the annoying guy at the venue who plays this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9X_msJ-7OI) each and every time I move a grunt...

[brevard321]

I have always loved Sgt. Rock, so this is great actually seeing the new dials and such.

This is also probably the closest we'll ever get to GI Joe Heroclix, so I will take as much Easy Company stuff as they will make.

The numbers and minion powers are probably a little much for the points, but what can you do? They'll still be fun to play with, and I don't think they're gamebreaking like Nightcrawler or Cosmic Spidey, obviously.

Also, I think of the generic as a repaint of Sgt. Rock, NOT the other way around.

Maybe there will also be an LE like Ice Cream Soldier, or my favorite Worry Wart, or something! :)

[Top10]

The Trait on Sgt Rock is awesome for Soldiers.
Leadership and Willpower. Swarm and Army teams heavily rely on actions per turn. You can't have enough of them.

I just can't imagine having my Black Checkmate Knight with Willpower and a 10 attack dealing out 4 damage from 8 range.

Any reason I have to play Little Sure Shot (my most used piece ever) is fine by me.

[Surfer13]

Bug, and Phalanx Soldier, among others, are soldiers that would benefit from Rock's trait and are able to crack invulnerable targets.

Thunderer of Qward is a relatively inexpensive soldier that can crack invulnerability and activate the Easy Company soldier minion ability, not to mention having enhancement themselves, which would give the soldiers 3 damage with that running shot if they can get adjacent.

And all of these cheap soldiers just means more and more theme prob uses and characters that will be available to give the token to.

[spideyfriend]

Wow! Good pieces. First preview they have done that
has gotten me excited for the set. Now if we could see
Guy Gardner and John Stewart GL's. Sweet!!!

[Sigdr]

As if Little Sure Shot wasn't a killer before...this new Sgt Rock is going to make him absolutely nasty. Look out for other cheap soldiers too, like the Easy Company Medics, Black Checkmate Knight, Rookie Puck, Bug...

[Ignatz_Mouse]

LSS in hindering, with Rock standing behind him. Medic on hand to heal (with WP no less!). A blackhawk or two beside him helps his aim. Meanwhile Easy Co soldiers are Run-SHooting everything in sight, or tying up people.

And if you want to blow theme, HAMMER guys SHILD-pumping damage!

[TH0MAS5]

Awesome.

No one's complaining about the Combat Reflexes, so I guess it's okay, but I would've figured on Energy Shield/Deflection instead. I picture them dug in and having a firefight, or trying to find a weak spot in a tank, rather than getting into close combat.



How about if they were made like the Skrull figures in Secret Invasion?

50 % of them with Combat Relexes and 50 % of them with Energy Shield.

[ccs]

Common figures - static sculpts=cheaper production

Rare figures - more dynamic, see through plastic=cost more............

I can only see it as keeping the cost down for us consumers.


Don't be naive, cutting corners has nothing to do with benifitting we consumers.
The math has been done. The conclusion has been reached that enough product will sell wether they produce crap sculpts (like much of SI, BatB, WoS Iron Man/Iron Patriot, etc) or something truely great.
This is what happens when people buy the product based more on the dials/# than anything else. The company sees that, takes note, & in turn gives you low quality sculpts.

[T. Paul Stiles]

Well, first Batman and now this. Wizkids are really getting daring with these sculpts...

[robedestroyer]

I'm just wondering if we will get an Iron Major in this set? I know nothing of the character, but reading the back of the Sgt. Rock card, his name is mentioned. It could be a hint of another character to come in this set.

[larthosgrr8]

saint walker,sgt rock, and a couple phalanx are gonna wreck! i don't mind the easy company guys but they remind e of the code blue guys. i'll get as many as i pull. i won't hunt them down like other generics.

so far i'm liking what i see. keep the good stuff coming!

[cartoonist93]

How about looking like soldiers fighting in WWII and not standing around waiting for a bus?

LOL! He does look like he's waiting for a bus! Or maybe he's waiting for his carpool with sgt. Rock to pull up so they can get to the office on time!:p

[michiganj24]

Anyone else find it funny he was a better Sergeant than a General

[Tim Drake]

Anyone else find it funny he was a better Sergeant than a General

So much so that they retconned his time as a General out of continuity. Sgt. Rock was killed by the final shot of WWII.

[themonkey]

Maybe there will be a third piece that uses the same sculpt...

G.I. Robot

I know it's a pipe dream, but it would be awesome!

[Crazy Bee]

I like these minions, gonna need about 16 to back up my 500 pt Invaders team.

Thankfully I'm getting at least a case ^_^

[SevenBlueSeven]

more boring sculpts...

I am gonna be changing out these sculpts for the older ones.

[Clclix]

Not too shabby, I will want a rock for some soldier tricks and such, and the easy company soldiers are good filler.

[Oldguynewbie]

I want a bunch of Easy Company grunts. I plan on being the annoying guy at the venue who plays this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9X_msJ-7OI) each and every time I move a grunt...

You realize this is a cover, right? You ARE familiar with the super-cool awesomeness of The Commodores and Lionel Ritchie, AREN'T YOU?

Stick with the original.

[Armourgeddon2K]

Spider-Man is a completely different story. But really, you're reaching if you're telling me Captain America is going to hurt Superman. Wolverine's claws wouldn't scratch him. At least translating "comic damage" into the game, I don't think Wolverine would do 4 damage (after reducers) if you're looking for true comic accuracy. Maybe 1 damage that he shrugs off and recoups from if they get a really really good hit in.


These comic accurate analogies rarely work as we need to remember that some stuff that regularly occurs in comics isn't even comic accurate. Totally off topic but as I'm unsure exactly where kryptonite and adamantium are on the periodic table I'm going to suppose that the metal is harder than the crystal and assume Wolverine coats his claws in finely pulverised kryptonite dust before slicing and dicing the 'Man of Steel' - all of a sudden it is comic accurate? :ermm:

[Armourgeddon2K]

I have to agree with the previous posts that having a notable unique character as a repainted generic is a bit of a fail.

Stat and powers wise they are a win.

Have they not taken a notable unique character and repainted him for the generics, - by the way can you pass that half full pint of beer. Cheers. ;)

[DrugSex]

DC is my favorite comic company and when i read about this release i was very happy. Thank u Neca.

[hanzoslash]

Have they not taken a notable unique character and repainted him for the generics, - by the way can you pass that half full pint of beer. Cheers. ;)

????????

Huh?

[DarkBlueAnt]

Boring pose, but cool figures. We do need some Nazi generics for them to fight against though.

[Tim Drake]

Boring pose, but cool figures. We do need some Nazi generics for them to fight against though.

Given today's societal fear of offending anyone, I think it's highly unlikely that we'll ever see identifiable Nazi soldiers, Axis Amerika, the Aryan Brigade, Fourth Reich, Master Man or Captain Nazi in 'clix form... Which is just pathetic.

[konasavage]

When is Giant Size X-Men again?

[Munchoboy]

When is Giant Size X-Men again?

IIRC, mid to late Q1 2011. ;)

[luper4]

These guys look like a lot of fun. Does make me sad that the brick figure is White Lantern Sinestro and not something awesome like The Haunted Tank...

[gatharion]

Given today's societal fear of offending anyone, I think it's highly unlikely that we'll ever see identifiable Nazi soldiers, Axis Amerika, the Aryan Brigade, Fourth Reich, Master Man or Captain Nazi in 'clix form... Which is just pathetic.

Color me confused.
How would having little Nazi figures be offensive?
Wizards of the Coast have a slew of Axis and Allies products:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=ah/aa/welcome
Including a whole collectible miniatures game...which I'm pretty sure includes Nazis.

These guys look like a lot of fun. Does make me sad that the brick figure is White Lantern Sinestro and not something awesome like The Haunted Tank...

Oh man, the Haunted Tank would have been a great brick figure!

[ben138]

On the one hand, I like the more playable Rock and the minon power on the soldiers. but I call BS on Sgt. Rock just being a repaint of the generic

[Munchoboy]

On the one hand, I like the more playable Rock and the minon power on the soldiers. but I call BS on Sgt. Rock just being a repaint of the generic

It looks like you got it backwards there. Considering the sculpt in question, it's more a case of the EC Soldier being a repaint of Sgt. Rock.

The sculpt includes a Thompson machine gun, Rock's signature weapon, as well as Rock's omni-present .30 Cal ammo belts slung over the shoulders.

That said, I am fine with the repaint in this instance.

[ben138]

It looks like you got it backwards there. Considering the sculpt in question, it's more a case of the EC Soldier being a repaint of Sgt. Rock.

The sculpt includes a Thompson machine gun, Rock's signature weapon, as well as Rock's omni-present .30 Cal ammo belts slung over the shoulders.

That said, I am fine with the repaint in this instance.

Fair enough, I'd still rather see different sculpts. Maybe a Rock sculpt based on a Kubert drawing.

[Tim Drake]

Color me confused.
How would having little Nazi figures be offensive?
Wizards of the Coast have a slew of Axis and Allies products:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=ah/aa/welcome
Including a whole collectible miniatures game...which I'm pretty sure includes Nazis.

Oh, I know. I've been playing Axis & Allies before it even was a CMG. And having Nazis for my JSA and Invaders to beat up certainly wouldn't offend me, but the marketing types tend to be afraid of putting Nazis in stuff that's considered (by the general public) "for kids."

[doctor_x]

I gotta say that the pose is sorta UNINSPIRED.

I sincerely hope that this is an exception and not the new norm.

We already have a majority of bland "dynamic" flying poses, we don't need bland grounded figs now too.

We don't even get many bases that are more than black crescant thingies now either.

I've seen better sculpts in bags of green plastic toy soldiers like from Toy Story...lol

[Munchoboy]

I gotta say that the pose is sorta UNINSPIRED.

I disagree, but to each their own.

[CyberShark]

I like the dials but i'm tired of seeing repaints. That's just the sculptor being lazy.

[Rokk_Krinn]

These guys look like a lot of fun. Does make me sad that the brick figure is White Lantern Sinestro and not something awesome like The Haunted Tank...

I've been begging for a Haunted Tank - plus a special rules double-sided map of the House of Mystery/House of Secrets - for about 8 years now. I will not stop clamouring for one even after the game ends!

[ben138]

I've been begging for a Haunted Tank - plus a special rules double-sided map of the House of Mystery/House of Secrets - for about 8 years now. I will not stop clamouring for one even after the game ends!

I want a "WEIRD WAR TALES" box set!

[Rokk_Krinn]

I want a "WEIRD WAR TALES" box set!

I would completely shell out good money for Creature Commandos. I had hopes with their "New Krypton" appearance but that was "blink and don't miss it" and unlikely to get them any clix. :(

[DOOMSTRIKER]

yeah, dials an stuff...

but man these sculpts are lame :ermm: (still better than most of WoS, what was wrong with that set anyway:confused:)

[VegasRudeBoy]

I wonder how these would work with an Uncle Sam and a Comedian?