Character Creation Sunfire

[Manchine]

Well its Monday, actually Tuesday but only by an hour, so its Character Creation time. I figured I would do an Xmen Related character with Xplosions stats all out pretty much. So I figured SunFire. Pretty much a different a little more powerful Human Torch. This one trained in Martial Arts.

All comments are welcomed, Good or Bad.


Sunfire Veteran Flight Range 10

Speed 10 9 8 8 7 6 5

Attack 11 10 9 8 8 7 7

Defense 17 16 15 14 14 13 12

Damage 3 2 2 2 1 1 1




Running Shot He is a hit and run character

Toughness His Plasma Sheath forms a type of armour around him.

Energy Shield/Deflection His Sheath protects him much like Johnny storm.

Range Combat Expert He can pump up his damage for a short time



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[Dexceus]

Just wanted to point out how close you got with your colossus to what is coming out in Xplosion.

You didn't have the 'hulk up' click, had higher defense for him, they have 4 damage for one more click, and they don't have the last click you have (though this is balanced out by the 'hulk up' click.

I think you got it pretty #### close.

[whiteperegrine]

Originally posted by Manchine
[B]Well its Monday, actually Tuesday but only by an hour, so its Character Creation time. I figured I would do an Xmen Related character with Xplosions stats all out pretty much. So I figured SunFire. Pretty much a different a little more powerful Human Torch. This one trained in Martial Arts.

All comments are welcomed, Good or Bad.


Sunfire Veteran Flight Range 10

Speed 10 9 8 8 7 6 5

Attack 11 10 9 8 8 7 7

Defense 17 16 15 14 14 13 12

Damage 3 2 3 2 1 1 1




Running Shot He is a hit and run character

Energy Shield/Deflection His Sheath protects him much like Johnny storm.

Range Combat Expert He can pump up his damage for a short time

nice. the only differences I would make is drop the attack to 10 and the defence to 16. otherwise very nice.

my only question is why wait on the RCE? why not put it at the beginning of his dial? if it is just to be different..well, I can go with that. :)

[raging_madboy]

Hey there machine, your sunfire is 61 points. I thought he'd be more considering the comparison to johnny storm, but i guess thats how badly the FF team ability costs. He looks okay, but a little too close to HT to justify his creation. I'd be tempted to add battle fury, he was a little too hotheaded for the team function. Would you bother making his exp an x-man?

[Manchine]

The reason why he has a higher AV. He is actually trained in Martial Arts. SO I gave him 1 higher. THe reason for the RCE is becuase he pump up his damage of his flame attacks. He usually doesnt do this at the start so I put it near the middle.

He would have Xmen for his Experienced form. I was thinking of knocking his Defense down a notch.

I was thinking about giving him toughness becuase his plasma actually gives him armour for 2 kliqs.

[Doctor Strange]

I think you did a great job on his dial. I'm currently working on a mod for Sunfire which is going ok. I am having a little difficulty with his mask though. Any suggestions are appreciated but I'm afraid im going to have to use sculpting putty.

As far as toughness goes, I can see it going either way, maby toughness for his first click? The Energy shield/deflection is probably the most fitting in the end. I love the numbers as they are tho, dont change a thing!

[Manchine]

I decided to change the first 2 kliqs of Defense to Toughness. Making him slightly different then Torchy boy.

[JayThor]

I missed this one! Great job, Manchine.

[eskimobob311]

you can put energy explosion since he did manage to atk multiple characters in some comics

[JayThor]

I was glad you didn't make him X-men. It is too expensive, and he has only appeared 2 or 3 times. He might be an ally, but not a member.

[Doctor Strange]

I think the new version, with toughness, is perfect! Awesome job. Anyone have an idea how much this version would cost? If you dont mind machine, when I print out my "green ring" (custom) figures, I would like to just print out your sunfire because I don't think I can design a better one.

On a side note, do you have any ideas on whos head I can use for his mask? Im using human torches sculpt, but he has that odd mask. The only people I can think of are Hawkeye and Wolverine.

[Manchine]

Originally posted by Doctor Strange
I think the new version, with toughness, is perfect! Awesome job. Anyone have an idea how much this version would cost? If you dont mind machine, when I print out my "green ring" (custom) figures, I would like to just print out your sunfire because I don't think I can design a better one.

On a side note, do you have any ideas on whos head I can use for his mask? Im using human torches sculpt, but he has that odd mask. The only people I can think of are Hawkeye and Wolverine.

I think nightwing would be the closest your gonna get for a head for him.

He's 61 points as what Waging Madbull said.

The Energy Explosion. I dont know, he uses plasma for his effects but it is an idea. Anyone else like that idea. Thaxs for the compliment.

[JayThor]

I would use him often, if they made one like this. I would RCE the second click as well. It shows the build up.

[Manchine]

Sounds like a good idea JayThor.

[DareDevil_13]

I think he should cost more than 61 points. That is the same point cost as Rookie Firelord, and your Sunfire lasts longer than he does. I'd bring him up to around 85 points, just for fairness. I will agree that you shouldn't give any of his versions the X-men team ability. He was only on the team for one mission, and only helped them out a couple of times.

very good and original idea though.

[Doctor Strange]

Just for fairness sake, I ran him through the old school formula (the first one to pop up on the realms); and he came up to 69 points.

[JayThor]

I wouldn't "make" him 85 points if that isn't what he comes out to be. His defense isn't as high as Firelord, and no ESD or Barrier.

[Manchine]

Yep I added an extra RCE after Raging figured out the points. So that added a few extra points to the numbers.

[JayThor]

This guy would join my list of favorites with V Thor, V Nightwing, V Doc Samson, and U Wolverine.

[Manchine]

The only thing that might change is 3 damage with RCE.

[JayThor]

Change to what? He did have the ability to hit Shift X damage.

[Manchine]

Yeah but that doesnt all ways come over. Look at Human Torch's 2nd to last klix. That should be 5 damage.

[JayThor]

True. I would be happy with 2 and RCE for a bunch.

[JayThor]

Since RCE is gone on the second to last click, I would put a 2 damage. Then 1 on the end, but that is just me. Guess the fanboy is showing.

[hourman]

You do good work, Manchine. I enjoy these posts of yours.

[Manchine]

Thaxs Hourman.

[Manchine]

Well its Monday, actually Tuesday but only by an hour, so its Character Creation time. I figured I would do an Xmen Related character with Xplosions stats all out pretty much. So I figured SunFire. Pretty much a different a little more powerful Human Torch. This one trained in Martial Arts.

All comments are welcomed, Good or Bad.


Sunfire Veteran Flight Range 10 1 Bolt 97 points

Speed 10 9 8 8 7 6 5

Attack 10 9 9 8 8 7 7

Defense 17 16 15 15 14 14 13

Damage 2 2 2 1 1 1 1




Running Shot He is a hit and run character

Toughness His Plasma Sheath forms a type of armour around him.

Energy Shield/Deflection His Sheath protects him much like Johnny storm.

Range Combat Expert He can pump up his damage for a short time



Black Knight (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21947) ----- Tigra (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21577) ----- Beetle (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20979) ----- Fixer (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21259 ) ----- Absorbing Man (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20698) ----- Wonder Man (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22450) ----- US Agent (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22764) ----- Super Adaptiod (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23222) ----- Scorpion (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23427&highlight=Character+Creation) ----- Nimrod (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23958&highlight=Character+Creation) ----- Grandmaster (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24322) ----- Pluto (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24885) ----- Baron Zemo (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25548&perpage=15&pagenumber=1) ----- Spider-Man (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26152) ----- Executioner (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26611&highlight=Character) ----- Colossus (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27093&highlight=Creation) ----- The Fly (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27679) ----- Namor (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28133) ----- Krang (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28826)

[JayThor]

I would have 1 with RCE to start, then the 2 with RCE like you have it for the power-up.

[Manchine]

I orginally had him doing 3 damage. I figured I should change it slightly here.

As for the 1 damage plus RCE. I was debating that but decided just for him to have 2 damage with RCE.
He can pump up his damage but it does drain him. I was even thinking of dropping a 2 to a 1 on the 3rd Kliq.

[gothix]

The rookie was a member of the X-men for just one adventure and as of recently he HAS joined the XCORP.So wouldn't that make his vet an X-man?

[Manchine]

Well thats the problem where do you view him in his vet form. I put his as no Team for Vet.