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VenomDaBomb
11/19/2010, 00:55
Marvel Lantern Mafia

Like Always Don't do these 3 things: Quote your role pm or the role pm of anybody else, talk about this game outside of this thread even via pm unless you are pm'ing a mason teammate or a mafia teammate, edit your posts. If you do one of these 3 things, you may be mod-killed to ensure the game's fairness.

This game has no "Town" Per-say, Each corps has its own win condition. However one corps wants everyone dead (I wonder which one that would be???)

Also you may or may not know who are your follow corp members are, not to worry all your rings will not harm your fellow members :cool: your action will just fail unless its a helpful action like doctoring ect...

I twisted the current marvel universe a bit to fit the story but not a lot so all your wonderful comic knowledge will be useful here. Also Its going to be crazy... I am hoping its crazy fun but you never know with me =P

Enjoy and thanks for playing

Alive

deadshot042
coyotejack
MSU
Immortal_Raven
The Vision
veguto
DarqFeonix
kontrol
Ouchmaker

Dead
normalview - Wolverine(Green Lantern Corps)
Silver Lantern - The Ringmaster (neutral)
viciousbuddha Iron Man(Green Lantern Corps)
Rokk_Krinn Magneto(Black Lantern)
ghosta - Mandarin (neutral)
sstralkowski - Rogue(violet Lantern Corps)
Quebbster- Omega Red(Black Lantern)
Paxzrake Mojo(Black Lantern)
St-DumasThe Invisible Woman (Indigo Clan)
Wade Wilson (Black Lantern)
Mr Stranger - Shadow Cat(violet Lanterns)
Jerry_Damage01 - Galactus(black Lantern)
The Darkstone - Venom(Yellow Lantern Corps)
Aemon Kristen - The Kingpin(Yellow Lantern)

Won

Ignatz_Mouse - The Punisher(Red Lantern)
Write ups
Night 1 (http://hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5134322&postcount=44)
Night 2 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5139004&postcount=226)
Night 3 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5143764&postcount=300)
Night 6 (http://hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5161543&postcount=649)

VenomDaBomb
11/19/2010, 00:56
Night Zero

The Figure Watches from the Bridge of his ship, His enemy, his quest to right the wrongs he had done lays in front of him. The man cannot not fight back, he is hurt, hungry and beaten. He understatement his attacker as a weak insignificant gnat, he now sees that error, he is betrayed again. they stand and watch him slowly die. His eyes roll back into his head. A loud pop breaks the silence of Space. A ring, black as death fits on the mans Finger RISE. He gets up Gets up renewed and fires an energy blast at the ship, its explodes killing all on board. A rainbow of colours fly by the newly resurrected man. He wants them, to feed off of them, to rule all in the quietness of death. A Blue streak comes flying at him out of the wreckage. He attack form all angles but every time he blasts a piece of him off its grows back, The man grabs him, and sees hope, HE drains it all of him, Power Level At 10% He discards the body in the vacuum of space and makes his way to earth in the direction of the Rings....

VenomDabomb has been killed. He was the Silver Surfer (Blue Lantern Corps) - See my Avatar =)

Amongst the Wreckage a White ring finds a home...LIVE.

with 24 players 13 is Majority.

deadshot042
11/19/2010, 15:42
Checking in.

Immortal_Raven
11/19/2010, 15:46
Checking in, and sweet avatar. I may have to have a buddy paint one of my extra sculpts of SS.

viciousbuddha
11/19/2010, 15:46
sweet!

checking in!

Jerry_Damage01
11/19/2010, 15:57
Checking in, and sweet avatar. I may have to have a buddy paint one of my extra sculpts of SS.

Checking in and I have a feeling there are going to be some sweet custom ideas coming out of this game.

coyotejack
11/19/2010, 16:09
Checking in as well!

ghosta
11/19/2010, 16:14
I'm here for now but I'll probably be on later tonight.

Wade Wilson
11/19/2010, 16:20
Checking out...


wait what? :p

Silver Lantern
11/19/2010, 16:24
I really HOPE all will be well...

DarqFeonix
11/19/2010, 16:30
My role is hilarious. Don't kill me Mafia!

The Vision
11/19/2010, 16:33
Checking in.

Can you imagine how powerful the surfer would be with a Lantern Ring?

DarqFeonix
11/19/2010, 16:35
I was trying to remember if he gained possession of it in the Marvel vs DC crossover, or the oneshot with Rune.

Heh-heh. Rune. What a craptastic character.

Aemon Kristen
11/19/2010, 16:38
Checking in.

Jerry_Damage01
11/19/2010, 16:42
I was trying to remember if he gained possession of it in the Marvel vs DC crossover, or the oneshot with Rune.

Heh-heh. Rune. What a craptastic character.

There was also a crossover where he and Kyle teamed up for a bit. He didn't get a ring then, but it would have been very very cool if he had. So cool that I think it might require a custom.

Quebbster
11/19/2010, 16:56
Yay, new game!

normalview
11/19/2010, 17:05
This Will be interesting to see the reimagined Marvel characters.

HavokAndChaos
11/19/2010, 19:24
New game

Lynch Vote: Jerry_Damage01

That will teach you to have me die night 1 in your game!

veguto
11/19/2010, 19:36
Checking in. I've got a feeling this is going to be to crazy.

Jerry_Damage01
11/19/2010, 19:37
New game

Lynch Vote: Jerry_Damage01

That will teach you to have me die night 1 in your game!

Vote HavokandChaos Not my fault you were an evil guardian. Ok, maybe it was since I assigned the roles, but I still claim innoncense!

Aemon Kristen
11/19/2010, 21:06
Do we have a deadline yet?

Ouchmaker
11/19/2010, 21:43
Interested in seeing how different characters are represented in this game.

Wade Wilson
11/19/2010, 21:56
I bet this game will test our knowledge of Marvel!

St-Dumas
11/19/2010, 22:06
I'm in this game!

Wade Wilson
11/19/2010, 22:35
What corp would Admiral Ackbar be in?

viciousbuddha
11/19/2010, 23:08
What corp would Admiral Ackbar be in?

the fish head corps?

Wade Wilson
11/19/2010, 23:09
Well the Blue Lanterns have an Elephant...

The Darkstone
11/19/2010, 23:29
stoked for this game.

viciousbuddha
11/19/2010, 23:34
now only if I had payed closer attention to all the lantern powers I might know what's going on lol

I do know green
yellow
& red.

the rest....not so much. :laugh:

deadshot042
11/20/2010, 00:22
Red- Rage
Orange- Avarice
Yellow- Fear
Green- Willpower
Blue- Hope
Indigo- Compassion
Violet- Love

Black- Death
White- Life

There's a very quick rundown.

Mr Stranger
11/20/2010, 00:26
Grey = Zombie?

Wade Wilson
11/20/2010, 00:30
Brown = Poop

Immortal_Raven
11/20/2010, 11:27
Brown = Poop

I'd find that funny if I didn't have two children in diapers.

normalview
11/20/2010, 11:57
I'd find that funny if I didn't have two children in diapers.

Yeah, in that case we're talking more of a grayish-green, not brown ;)

VenomDaBomb
11/20/2010, 12:59
Yeah, in that case we're talking more of a grayish-green, not brown ;)

this is what marvel Lanterns is being reduced to! sigh....


Jerry_Damage01(1) : H&C

H&C (1): Jerry_Dam

About 5 hours left...

Aemon Kristen
11/20/2010, 13:56
I'm gonna VOTE NORMAL cause what he is aid just ruined my lunch.

Quebbster
11/20/2010, 14:40
I'm gonna VOTE NORMAL cause what he is aid just ruined my lunch.
I can tell you don't have kids.

Immortal_Raven
11/20/2010, 17:10
Normal could have done a lot worse with that, and so could I. Sometimes I wonder if my son ate a smurf.

Wade Wilson
11/20/2010, 17:32
What about those Snorks? :p

MSU
11/20/2010, 19:14
Checking in as well!

kontrol
11/20/2010, 19:56
So death avatar - Thanos maybe? Didn't seem like him though

Aemon Kristen
11/20/2010, 20:13
Actually I have a 5-year-old. I just needed a reason to vote. Saw something about the deadline being in 5 hours.

VenomDaBomb
11/20/2010, 20:52
They say there is always a calm before the storm...

Night 1 starts you have until Monday noon to get the actions in

VenomDaBomb
11/22/2010, 13:43
Night 1

The Brute stood at the edge of the cliff. A group of Colors surrounded him. the brute Grabs the earth behind him and rips a chuck out of it. "now now there, that's not nice." says a soft voice. he drops the piece of land and walks away.

The capped man floats admiring his new ring. "With this ring I can lead mutant kind into and new era" he creates a yellow construct of a cowarding human and his feet. an smirk goes across his face. Smoke fills the room. the Man raises his shields by reaction. He sees that attacker. " Its can't be..." the attacker disappears. He feels a sharp pain in his chest as he heart is ripped out. POWER LEVELS AT 30%.

The man in the top hat is filled with anger. "Why not me! i deserve this power! All I have are these hats..." An orange glow hits his face. he turns "Yes give me power" The female stabs him with a blade and then cuts off both his hands. She picks them up and dissipates. She walks over to another and gives him the hands, he checks them furiously... "THIS ISN'T WANT!" he yells as he throws them to the side. "Perhaps you want death!" a voice from the shadows says. A black energy is shot at him. "Nooooooooooo" he screams as several Orange camera men protect him. "Find out who tried to kill me! Find him I WANT HIS HANDS!" The constructs spread out but find nothing.


Rokk_Krinn has been killed he was Magnito (Yellow Lantern Corps)

Silver Lantern has been killed he was The Ringmaster (neutral)

with 22 players 12 is Majority.

coyotejack
11/22/2010, 13:50
A female (Orange) with a blade, taking hands. Spiral?

PaxZRake
11/22/2010, 13:53
Heh, I love the dialogue.

Jerry_Damage01
11/22/2010, 13:54
If that was Spiral then it looks like Mojo is our Orange Lantern.

coyotejack
11/22/2010, 13:56
If that was Spiral then it looks like Mojo is our Orange Lantern.

It's the only thing I could come up with. Makes me wonder if the hands they are looking for are Longshot's? His are pretty obvious (only 4 fingers). This is pure speculation on my part.

Jerry_Damage01
11/22/2010, 14:00
It's the only thing I could come up with. Makes me wonder if the hands they are looking for are Longshot's? His are pretty obvious (only 4 fingers). This is pure speculation on my part.

If Mojo was the Orange Lantern, he would want Longshot's hands I'd imagine.

Immortal_Raven
11/22/2010, 14:11
The Mojo/Spiral/Longshot scenario fits. Looks like Mojo was an attempted nightkill as well. And we have at least 4 Corps in action.

Orange Lantern-Spiral/Mojo
Yellow Lantern-Magnito
Blue Lantern-VDB
Black Lantern-Magnito's killer, unless it's a freakish coincidence with the Power Levels rising bit.

Any speculation as to alignment of specific corps?

coyotejack
11/22/2010, 14:24
The Mojo/Spiral/Longshot scenario fits. Looks like Mojo was an attempted nightkill as well. And we have at least 4 Corps in action.

Orange Lantern-Spiral/Mojo
Yellow Lantern-Magnito
Blue Lantern-VDB
Black Lantern-Magnito's killer, unless it's a freakish coincidence with the Power Levels rising bit.

Any speculation as to alignment of specific corps?

I can definitely tell you that Green Corps is here as well.

deadshot042
11/22/2010, 14:29
I am relatively certain that all seven lantern corps. and the Black Lanterns are represented here.

Mr Stranger
11/22/2010, 14:29
I can definitely tell you that Green Corps is here as well.

Purple too.

Immortal_Raven
11/22/2010, 14:39
I figured there were more, I'm just curious as to alignments. Magnito was yellow corps, yet he's been both a good and bad character. Is it possible there are two mafias.

Mr Stranger
11/22/2010, 14:41
Well given the writeup, I think Spiral and Mojo are neutral bounty hunters and the mafia are the black lantern corps.

OR, the character from the black lantern corps is the serial killer and the red lantern corps are the mafia.

Aemon Kristen
11/22/2010, 14:43
I'm new to these forums and I"m curious about a couple of things. Is it normal here to have no lynch on day 1 and why can't we discuss things at night?

deadshot042
11/22/2010, 14:43
I'm guessing, based on the information given to me, that each corps. has its own requirements to win. So it's possible for multiple corps. to win or only one. Black Lanterns may bear the closest resemblance to mafia though.

Mr Stranger
11/22/2010, 14:44
I'm new to these forums and I"m curious about a couple of things. Is it normal here to have no lynch on day 1 and why can't we discuss things at night?

Night is where all of the actions happen, which we then discuss in the day.

There isn't usually a lynch on day one because no one has any information, and we would just be playing Russian roulette.

normalview
11/22/2010, 14:53
Between the write up and the mod's comments in the first couple posts, I imagine the most likely scenario is Black Lanterns as mafia and something else (maybe Orange, maybe not) as the SK.

While there doesn't seem to be any one single town, per se (again, going by mod comments in the first couple posts), I am guessing that Magnito, though a Yellow Lantern, was technically a "good guy".



Other than that, I got nothing.

sstralkowski
11/22/2010, 15:12
I'm with normal on this one. vote jerry

Mr Stranger
11/22/2010, 15:14
I'm with normal on this one. vote jerry

Why Jerry?

Aemon Kristen
11/22/2010, 15:14
Odd. Oh well. I'll just have to get used to it. Deadshot sounds like he may have more info than the rest of use.

I am relatively certain that all seven lantern corps. and the Black Lanterns are represented here.


I'm guessing, based on the information given to me, that each corps. has its own requirements to win. So it's possible for multiple corps. to win or only one. Black Lanterns may bear the closest resemblance to mafia though.

How did you get this extra information, Deadshot? Sounds like you may be of a darker persuasion than the rest of us.

normalview
11/22/2010, 15:15
I'm with normal on this one. vote jerry

Hmm... well, let's see where this goes for now:

VOTE: Jerry_Damage01

Quebbster
11/22/2010, 15:21
Hmm... well, let's see where this goes for now:

VOTE: Jerry_Damage01
What he said.

Vote: JerryD

deadshot042
11/22/2010, 15:32
How did you get this extra information, Deadshot? Sounds like you may be of a darker persuasion than the rest of us.

I was told my "win conditions" were the same as those of a couple of other specific groups. I'm extrapolating from this to reach the conclusion that their are a variety of "win conditions". It could also be possible that some corps. are town and others are mafia.

VenomDaBomb
11/22/2010, 15:34
Vote Update

Jerry(3): Stan, NormV, Quebbster

Aemon Kristen
11/22/2010, 15:37
Can anyone explain the votes on Jerry? One person voted without a reason and everyone seems to agree with him. I'm gonna VOTE DEADSHOT. I don;t think he's being completely honest with us.

Silver Lantern
11/22/2010, 15:39
Wow whomever killed me really sucks. Going out for blood on this one...

Jerry_Damage01
11/22/2010, 15:41
Care to share why you're trying to lynch me Stan? I'd like to know why I've got heat before I respond to it.

coyotejack
11/22/2010, 15:43
Yeah, I'm sure certain Corps would be working toward a common goal.

It will be interesting to see how some characters pan out.

sstralkowski
11/22/2010, 15:48
Vote Update

Jerry(2): Stan, NormV

You missed Quebbs

Care to share why you're trying to lynch me Stan? I'd like to know why I've got heat before I respond to it.

Who said anything about a lynch? Maybe I'm looking for a claim to see ifn it matches what I have on you. Care to oblige?

normalview
11/22/2010, 15:55
Can anyone explain the votes on Jerry? One person voted without a reason and everyone seems to agree with him.


Info gathering. I actually don't want to lynch anyone yet... too much we don't know and we could quite easily accidentally kill a townie.


But if we can put enough heat on Jerry, we can at least get a role claim out of him (and maybe even targets and power) and see if that jives with what we know.

normalview
11/22/2010, 15:56
Info gathering. I actually don't want to lynch anyone yet... too much we don't know and we could quite easily accidentally kill a townie.


But if we can put enough heat on Jerry, we can at least get a role claim out of him (and maybe even targets and power) and see if that jives with what we know.

And if someone has anything more definite, I'm all ears.

Immortal_Raven
11/22/2010, 15:57
Ooh, a game of RC chicken, interesting. I'll hold off my vote until I hear more.

The Darkstone
11/22/2010, 15:57
But if we can put enough heat on Jerry, we can at least get a role claim out of him (and maybe even targets and power) and see if that jives with what we know.

We don't know anything, Stan is the one that has info.

I am rather wary of this situation.

sstralkowski
11/22/2010, 16:02
Sadly, I have to go and will be MIA for a good number of hours. I feel it would be irresponsible of me to keep pressure on Jerry if I'm not here to deliver the verdict. I'd have kept my mouth shut, but I was hoping for a quick bit of info seeing as he was on. remove vote for now. If I get back on in a reasonable amount of time, I'll readdress it.

normalview
11/22/2010, 16:03
We don't know anything, Stan is the one that has info.

I am rather wary of this situation.

Who says we don't know anything?

Our info gatherers may be playing it close to the vest. Plus many haven't checked in yet.

Or he might flub a role claim (if he's mafia) and claim something that somone else also has.



Just because you or I specifically may not "know" anything (or, at least, we're acting like we don't) doesn't mean that pressure and info can't be useful.

viciousbuddha
11/22/2010, 16:03
checking in, nothing to report though as my action last night didn't go through :ermm:

I'll hold off on the votes until I get all caught up

Aemon Kristen
11/22/2010, 16:03
I'm with you Darkstone. Unless Normal and Sstralkowski are both claiming finder (they have both said they want to see if what Jerry reveals jives with the information they have) they are just role fishing. This is a very common mafia tactic. You guys are my tops suspects at the moment for role fishing so early in the game.

normalview
11/22/2010, 16:05
I'm with you Darkstone. Unless Normal and Sstralkowski are both claiming finder (they have both said they want to see if what Jerry reveals jives with the information they have) they are just role fishing. This is a very common mafia tactic. You guys are my tops suspects at the moment for role fishing so early in the game.

And you're deflecting from a vote on another player. Another very common tactic.



See, I can spin stuff, too ;)

Aemon Kristen
11/22/2010, 16:07
Deflecting? I have no idea what you are talking about.

Aemon Kristen
11/22/2010, 16:08
I'm saying you are trying to flush out a role without thinking that you may be outing our finder or doc for no good reason.

normalview
11/22/2010, 16:18
I'm saying you are trying to flush out a role without thinking that you may be outing our finder or doc for no good reason.

I never said he had to give powers. It might be nice if he did... but if he IS the doctor or cop, I'd hope he'd keep that to himself.


But at the very least, I wouldn't mind hearing his role claim.

Aemon Kristen
11/22/2010, 16:24
I'd prefer going after someone who actually seems suspicious. Homing in on someone at random is a day 1 tactic. We've already lost 2 people. My top three picks are Deadshot for too much info and Sstralkowski and Normal for role fishing. I'd be more than happy to pressure any of these three. We need to hunt scum, not try to randomly out characters. Role reveals will give ideas to abilities and we don't want our power roles outed by random pressure tactics.

normalview
11/22/2010, 16:29
Then do something; like I said before, I'm all ears if someone has a better idea.


But it seems like you're trying pretty hard to keep more people from voting for Jerry... just sayin'...

Aemon Kristen
11/22/2010, 16:33
Perhaps you missed the part of my post where I named the people I would be willing to pressure. Why do you insist on Jerry? Why are you afraid to put pressure on Sstralkowski or Deadshot? Teammates?

The Darkstone
11/22/2010, 16:41
Well, I think I have some info for us then.

Stan has absolutely no information on Jerry. Mainly because he targeted Kontrol last night.

so, Vote:sstralkowski

Aemon Kristen
11/22/2010, 16:43
Kontrol, can you tell us if anything happened to you?

Immortal_Raven
11/22/2010, 16:45
Perhaps you missed the part of my post where I named the people I would be willing to pressure. Why do you insist on Jerry? Why are you afraid to put pressure on Sstralkowski or Deadshot? Teammates?

Do you have any other evidence other than their pressure votes? I personally have no evidence on anyone, so I'm not voting until someone shows something. normal picked Jerry to pressure and so far you're not giving us reason not to. He just as easily could have picked you, me, or sstralkowski. So I guess what I'm saying is convince us that one person is a better pressure vote than another.

normalview
11/22/2010, 16:52
Perhaps you missed the part of my post where I named the people I would be willing to pressure. Why do you insist on Jerry? Why are you afraid to put pressure on Sstralkowski or Deadshot? Teammates?

I missed nothing. I noticed specifically that there was a lot of talking but not very much DOING.


If there is a reason to put pressure on Stan or Deadshot, I will. For all I know, they might be teammates... we're not told who else might be similar colors... unless you were told... which means you're probably a Black Lantern :laugh:



The Darkstone seems to have something interesting with Stan and kontrol, though. I'll keep my vote where it is until kontrol can comment.

normalview
11/22/2010, 16:53
I missed nothing. I noticed specifically that there was a lot of talking but not very much DOING.


Lots of talking and no doing on Aemon's part, I meant.

deadshot042
11/22/2010, 16:56
Was no one else told that you win if certain other groups win?

That's what I'm basing my information on.

ghosta
11/22/2010, 16:58
Well, I think I have some info for us then.

Stan has absolutely no information on Jerry. Mainly because he targeted Kontrol last night.

so, Vote:sstralkowski

This is very interesting.

Lynch Stan

I know he won't be back on for a while but when he does, I would like to see explain this...:laugh:

Aemon Kristen
11/22/2010, 16:58
@Raven- All three have claimed more information than they should have. I can see one of them being an informative role, but all three of them? Not likely.

I'm guessing, based on the information given to me, that each corps. has its own requirements to win. So it's possible for multiple corps. to win or only one. Black Lanterns may bear the closest resemblance to mafia though.


Deadshot claimed some specific information and I have yet to see anyone back it up. Why is that?

@Normal- My voye is on Deadshot. One of my principal suspects. I am encouraging conversation rather than a mindless bandwagon. What more do you expect?

MSU
11/22/2010, 16:58
Kontrol just had a baby (this morning) so Kontrol won't have anything for us.

Aemon Kristen
11/22/2010, 17:01
Not much you can say to that. Too bad we can't get any kind of confirmation or additional info from her.

normalview
11/22/2010, 17:03
@Normal- My voye is on Deadshot. One of my principal suspects. I am encouraging conversation rather than a mindless bandwagon. What more do you expect?

I saw no vote. Did you bold it?

Quebbster
11/22/2010, 17:05
remove vote
Time for bed. Hopefully this mess will look better in the morning.

Aemon Kristen
11/22/2010, 17:06
Page 5 is where I voted him.

Can anyone explain the votes on Jerry? One person voted without a reason and everyone seems to agree with him. I'm gonna VOTE DEADSHOT. I don;t think he's being completely honest with us.

deadshot042
11/22/2010, 17:06
Deadshot claimed some specific information and I have yet to see anyone back it up. Why is that?

I guessed at some specific information. The only thing I will factually claim is that some corps. are told that they win alongside other corps.

My guess is that the "friendly" colors can win together (i.e. Green, Blue, Indigo, Violet) based on what was revealed in my PM.

MSU
11/22/2010, 17:20
Kontrol is a boy. His wife "had" the baby...he just helped.

:)

Immortal_Raven
11/22/2010, 17:25
I went through the same thing nine days ago, COngratulations kontrol.

Aemon Kristen
11/22/2010, 17:26
@ MSU- LOL. Sorry about that. My bad.

@ Deadshot- you "guessed" at the information? That doesn't inspire much confidence when you first stated it as fact.

deadshot042
11/22/2010, 17:38
I'm guessing, based on the information given to me, that each corps. has its own requirements to win. So it's possible for multiple corps. to win or only one. Black Lanterns may bear the closest resemblance to mafia though.

There's my post.

Notice the wording: "I'm guessing".

Fact checks are important.

Aemon Kristen
11/22/2010, 17:43
I stand corrected.

Aemon Kristen
11/22/2010, 17:45
I'm gonna have to sign off in a couple of hours. When is deadline?

deadshot042
11/22/2010, 17:53
I stand corrected.

No problem. I just really don't want to be made out as a villain, because I'm trying to figure out how this game is working. It does seem like this is a very specialized game of mafia.

VenomDaBomb
11/22/2010, 18:07
Vote Update

Jerry(1): NormV

Deadshot(1): Aemon Kristen

Stan(2): The Darkstone, ghosta

MSU
11/22/2010, 18:31
For some of us, the confusion is what lanterns might be town and which might not be. Since Rokk dies as a yellow lantern WITHOUT a town/mafia designation, we are left in disarray.

The Vision
11/22/2010, 18:32
Breaking down the players in the night phase.


Night 1

The Brute stood ad the edge of the cliff. A group of Colors surrounded him. the brute Grabs the earth behind him and rips a chuck out of it. "now now there, that's not nice." says a soft voice. he drops the piece of land and walks away.

The capped man floats admiring his new ring. "With this ring I can lead mutant kind into and new era" he greats a yellow construct of a cowarding human and his feet. an smirk goes across his face. Smoke fills the room. the Man raises his shields by reaction. He sees that attacker. " Its can't be..." the attacker disappears. He feels a sharp pain in his chest as he heart is ripped out. POWER LEVELS AT 30%.

The man in the top hat is filled with anger. "Why not me! i deserve this power! All I have are these hats..." An orange glow hits his face. he turns "Yes give me power" The female stabs him with a blade and then cuts off both his hands. She picks them up and dissipates. She walks over to another and gives him the hands, he checks them furiously... "THIS ISN'T WANT!" he yells as he throws them to the side. "Perhaps you want death!" a voice from the shadows says. A black energy is shot at him. "Nooooooooooo" he screams as several Orange camera men protect him. "Find out who tried to kill me! Find him I WANT HIS HANDS!" The constructs spread out but find nothing.


1) Brute
2) targeted by multiple players
3) is pacifier guy

4) Rokk/Magneto/Capped man with yellow ring
5) 'attacker' who killed Rokk

6) Top Hat Guy / Silver Lantern / Ringmaster
7) Female with blade (Spiral - Orange)?
8) Guy who wants hands (Mojo - Orange)?
9) Black Ring person who attacked Mojo.

Wade Wilson
11/22/2010, 18:43
For some of us, the confusion is what lanterns might be town and which might not be. Since Rokk dies as a yellow lantern WITHOUT a town/mafia designation, we are left in disarray.

From the front page This game has no "Town" Per-say, Each corps has its own win condition. However one corps wants everyone dead (I wonder which one that would be???) I do believe that was in the sign up thread as well...

Immortal_Raven
11/22/2010, 18:47
Those are good analyses, but it still leaves us with nothing much to go on other than Darkstone's allegations against Sstralkowski. I'm also thinking that SL was a bad neutral, but that's kind of irrelevant right now.

The Darkstone
11/22/2010, 20:13
Those are good analyses, but it still leaves us with nothing much to go on other than Darkstone's allegations against Sstralkowski.

I wouldn't simply call it allegations. I caught him doing shenanigans.

deadshot042
11/22/2010, 21:04
I wouldn't simply call it allegations. I caught him doing shenanigans.

Can we get a clarification of what those shenanigans are?

Jerry_Damage01
11/22/2010, 21:08
I wouldn't simply call it allegations. I caught him doing shenanigans.

I'm curious as to what you caught him doing as well. I'm more curious as to what he allegedly has on me.

The Vision
11/22/2010, 21:15
I'm curious as to what you caught him doing as well. I'm more curious as to what he allegedly has on me.

Can we get a clarification of what those shenanigans are?

So basically you want him to announce if he's a tracker or a reverse tracker or whatever.

Yeah, that doesn't seem scummy at all.

deadshot042
11/22/2010, 21:18
So basically you want him to announce if he's a tracker or a reverse tracker or whatever.

Yeah, that doesn't seem scummy at all.

I'm apprehensive about jumping on a lynching bandwagon based on what is very vague information. If he's right about Sstralkowski, then he already has a target on his back.

Ouchmaker
11/22/2010, 21:24
I'm apprehensive about jumping on a lynching bandwagon based on what is very vague information. If he's right about Sstralkowski, then he already has a target on his back.

Well, there's voting to lynch, and voting to pressure.

normalview
11/22/2010, 21:27
Hmm, checking back in and I see no Kontrol comment (and likely won't be one during this day phase... newborns tend to do that I've discovered ;) And if you DO check in, congrats!).

Anywho, that leaves me with not a lot of options here. No one else seems interested in pressure on Jerry... can't say I blame them, either, since I was just following Stan's lead and it now looks like he might be dirty.

Why not VOTE: Sstralkowski then and see what happens?

The Darkstone
11/22/2010, 21:34
Guys, read the thread but here it is slimmed down.

Stan pressured Jerry saying that he wants Jerry to claim to match the information he has.

I called shenanigans because I know for a fact that he did not target Jerry during the night phase, and since it has only been one night, he does not have any information.

that is why I vote for stan and advise to do the same.

deadshot042
11/22/2010, 21:38
Guys, read the thread but here it is slimmed down.

Stan pressured Jerry saying that he wants Jerry to claim to match the information he has.

I called shenanigans because I know for a fact that he did not target Jerry during the night phase, and since it has only been one night, he does not have any information.

that is why I vote for stan and advise to do the same.

I'm going to wait a few hours for a response, but this seems like a decent lead. Thanks for summing this up.

Jerry_Damage01
11/22/2010, 21:42
Vote Sstralkowski.

I'm following Darkstone's lead as it just seems scummy to try to get a lynch train going. Add to it the info that Darkstone says he has and I'm willing to put on a pressure vote.

The Vision
11/22/2010, 21:42
Guys, read the thread but here it is slimmed down.

Stan pressured Jerry saying that he wants Jerry to claim to match the information he has.

I called shenanigans because I know for a fact that he did not target Jerry during the night phase, and since it has only been one night, he does not have any information.

that is why I vote for stan and advise to do the same.

Lynch Stan

VenomDaBomb
11/22/2010, 22:08
Vote Update

Deadshot(1): Aemon Kristen

Stan(5): The Darkstone, ghosta, NormV, Jerry_Damage01, The Vision

12 for a lynch.

kontrol
11/22/2010, 22:12
I have a break in the action. Super natural high right now. Have nothing to really to add except I didn't complete my action.

vote: sstralkowski

Let's hear what he has to say.

veguto
11/22/2010, 22:18
vote: stan

I know this is over half but faking results to pressure a roll claim sounds pretty scummy.

VenomDaBomb
11/22/2010, 22:22
Ignatz_Mouse Has replaced HavokandChaos starting now

Ignatz_Mouse
11/22/2010, 22:24
Wheee!

Just read the thread, too.

Lynch Stan

VenomDaBomb
11/22/2010, 22:32
Vote Update

Deadshot(1): Aemon Kristen

Stan(8): The Darkstone, ghosta, NormV, Jerry_Damage01, The Vision, kontrol, veguto, IM

12 for a lynch.

Mr Stranger
11/22/2010, 22:33
I have a break in the action. Super natural high right now. Have nothing to really to add except I didn't complete my action.

vote: sstralkowski

Let's hear what he has to say.

So then Stan is a blocker?

Immortal_Raven
11/22/2010, 22:54
I'll hold my vote for the morning until stan gets a chance to respond. 8 of 12 is decent pressure for now.

viciousbuddha
11/22/2010, 23:50
I'll hold my vote for the morning until stan gets a chance to respond. 8 of 12 is decent pressure for now.

lol to say the least.

interesting how fast that train came together once he announced he was going to be away

hmmmmm

St-Dumas
11/23/2010, 02:35
BWAAAH I'M IN THIS GAME!!

Sorry, been a busy day of not having school and watching movies and neglecting personal needs like food and oxygen. Anyway, why are we voting against Stan?

kontrol
11/23/2010, 05:34
BWAAAH I'M IN THIS GAME!!

Sorry, been a busy day of not having school and watching movies and neglecting personal needs like food and oxygen. Anyway, why are we voting against Stan?
Basic gist of it. Stan started with pressure on Jerry but was seen targetting me. Granted that on it's own doesn't raise a flag to me, he does stuff like that a lot actually. But my action not completing does raise a flag. So I'd like a claim from him.

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 06:23
I'm with you Darkstone. Unless Normal and Sstralkowski are both claiming finder (they have both said they want to see if what Jerry reveals jives with the information they have) they are just role fishing. This is a very common mafia tactic. You guys are my tops suspects at the moment for role fishing so early in the game.

What's a finder?

And you're deflecting from a vote on another player. Another very common tactic.



See, I can spin stuff, too ;)

:laugh::laugh:

Well, I think I have some info for us then.

Stan has absolutely no information on Jerry. Mainly because he targeted Kontrol last night.

so, Vote:sstralkowski

You got me. I had nothing on Jerry but wanted to see some more action during the day phase. He was chosen pretty much at random.

@Raven- All three have claimed more information than they should have. I can see one of them being an informative role, but all three of them? Not likely.

Hmm, seems that where you play mafia, people don't share much info until the night actions result in info.

Vote Sstralkowski.

I'm following Darkstone's lead as it just seems scummy to try to get a lynch train going. Add to it the info that Darkstone says he has and I'm willing to put on a pressure vote.

Again, pressure is different than trying to get you lynched.

I have a break in the action. Super natural high right now. Have nothing to really to add except I didn't complete my action.

vote: sstralkowski

Let's hear what he has to say.

I call Bull@#$%! I'm a guide, sugah! There's no way you failed. vote: kontrol

lol to say the least.

interesting how fast that train came together once he announced he was going to be away

hmmmmm

I was thinking the same thing. :laugh:

kontrol
11/23/2010, 06:26
Care to give a name and affiliation with that?

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 06:32
Care to give a name and affiliation with that?


Since yall're probably exhausted, ah'll oblige. Mah name is Rogue, and as my Remy can attest, Ah'm all about the lovin'.

Your turn. I don't need your character or anything, but I need your power claim.

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 06:57
Alright guys. Seeing as how I likely won't be believed enough to get protection tonight, my guide power has an exception. If the player I'm guiding has an aggressive power like a kill, then I block them. If you want to test this tonight, I will target Darkstone and he can confirm that I've targeted him without him failing. If I die before anything is revealed, let it be known that if kontrol failed, it's because he's got something aggressive like a kill power.

kontrol
11/23/2010, 07:15
Hmm, I'm satisfied. I think that's us in the write up.

change vote: St. Dumas

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 07:16
I find this feeling I'm having odd. I want to be annoyed that you were here to ask for my role and then bolted when I asked for the same in return, but I know how it is having a newborn and I'm very happy for you. It's a very duplicitous feeling.

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 07:18
Hmm, I'm satisfied. I think that's us in the write up.

change vote: St. Dumas

And then a simulpost makes me eat my foot. :laugh:

So you're the brute? I want to know your power. If you can kill, it's bad news for all of us.

Aemon Kristen
11/23/2010, 07:22
What's a finder?

Finder= Cop

You got me. I had nothing on Jerry but wanted to see some more action during the day phase. He was chosen pretty much at random.

Hmm, seems that where you play mafia, people don't share much info until the night actions result in info.

You just admitted that you were lying. That's not sharing information.

Alright guys. Seeing as how I likely won't be believed enough to get protection tonight, my guide power has an exception. If the player I'm guiding has an aggressive power like a kill, then I block them. If you want to test this tonight, I will target Darkstone and he can confirm that I've targeted him without him failing. If I die before anything is revealed, let it be known that if kontrol failed, it's because he's got something aggressive like a kill power.

Your plan would prove nothing. You would merely have to target someone else or forgo the use of your power and it would appear that you were confirmed. Or it is also possible that Darkstone is your teammate and would verify you, allowing you to use your power on another player tonight. There are only two ways to verify your innocence: 1) we lynch Kontrol and see how he flips. 2) We lynch you and see how you flip. Either of these options work for me as we are guaranteed to find scum. I recommend lynching Sstralkowski as he has admitted to providing false information to put pressure on Jerry. Why would he do that if he thought Kontrol had a killing ability? It makes no sense.

VOTE STAN

kontrol
11/23/2010, 07:29
Yeah. If the doctor didn't come in to draw blood from Carmen and wake him by turning on the light, I could've responded quicker.

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 07:37
You just admitted that you were lying. That's not sharing information.

Your whole reason for being upset was that people were sharing too much info for your liking, right? I'm saying that whereever you've played before here was different than it is here. You'll learn the subtle nuances in time. Until then, relax a bit. You're a teepee and a wigwam.

Your plan would prove nothing. You would merely have to target someone else or forgo the use of your power and it would appear that you were confirmed. Or it is also possible that Darkstone is your teammate and would verify you, allowing you to use your power on another player tonight.

Uhhh no. Darkstone admitted to being a tracker. He can tell you who I target. I would have to target him to prove that I targeted him. He'd see if I was lying. plus, knowing I targeted him, he could tell you if he failed or not.

There are only two ways to verify your innocence: 1) we lynch Kontrol and see how he flips. 2) We lynch you and see how you flip. Either of these options work for me as we are guaranteed to find scum.

Again no. Either or statement often don't take into consideration the details. You're only seeing the big picture. Suppose kontrol is the Hulk and a Green Lantern. Then what? He had a kill power, whether a PGO or a vig, or maybe some other aggressive power like a roleblock. Then you turn around and lynch me for it. Now you're down two "townies" because you were narrow minded.

Then again, you could just be a red/orange/yellow lantern and want me dead because it suits you. The details rule this game. That's why it fosters paranoia. But I understand you've got a learning curve here.

I recommend lynching Sstralkowski as he has admitted to providing false information to put pressure on Jerry.

:laugh: You amuse me. You're so much like I used to be. Tons of aggression and no direction. here's the thing. People lie in this game. Townies lie. Neutrals lie. Mafiosos lie. My point was to get discussion going so people didn't just sit back and let the day pass. And look what happened. We've got a discussion going. I'll chalk it up as a win whether I get lynched or not.

Why would he do that if he thought Kontrol had a killing ability? It makes no sense.

VOTE STAN

I voted for jerry before kontrol said he failed. How am I supposed to know kontrol failed before he says it? My suspicions about kontrol's power only came up after he said he failed and I reread my role.

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 07:37
Yeah. If the doctor didn't come in to draw blood from Carmen and wake him by turning on the light, I could've responded quicker.

No worries, man. It's all good. :cool:

Wade Wilson
11/23/2010, 07:38
Yea I am thinking lynching Stan here may give us more information. I am not sure on his power claim or why he would fake information just to get a random lynch going. You would get the same votes just saying it was for pressure so there was honestly no need to fake the info.

lynch Stan

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 07:39
So now we have Aemon going off again. First it was Deadshot, the scummiest of the scummers because he guessed at possible alliances. Then normal for voting without the cop's consent. Now it's me because I don't play the way he/she likes to play.

Gotta love HCR mafia. :laugh:

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 07:41
Yea I am thinking lynching Stan here may give us more information. I am not sure on his power claim or why he would fake information just to get a random lynch going. You would get the same votes just saying it was for pressure so there was honestly no need to fake the info.
lynch Stan

That's debatable. And again, you guys need to make a distinction between me trying to lynch someone and me looking for info. I clearly stated I was looking for info, and yet it keeps getting twisted.

But if you all honestly feel that lynching me will gain you more of an edge than you're losing by having me around, then go for it. I'm not mad. It's part of the game. :classic:

Aemon Kristen
11/23/2010, 07:55
You're pretty good at twisting the meaning of what has been said, Stan. I said it was highly unlikely that all three of you had informative roles and that's why you were all on my list.

You falsified information to get people to vote for someone. No townies do that where I come from. That's a fine way to get yourself lynched, in fact. If townies start fabricating info than the mafia just has to sit back and let us lie ourselves into a mafia win.

You had to reread your role to understand what your ability is? I think you needed time to fabricate an ability that would encourage us to lynch someone else once you were caught in the lie. My vote stays where it is.

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 08:16
You're pretty good at twisting the meaning of what has been said, Stan. I said it was highly unlikely that all three of you had informative roles and that's why you were all on my list.

Funny, I can name a number of them. alignment cop (a number of different sanities), name cop, power cop, clue cop, tracker, reverse tracker, etc. Even if you lump all the cops (which often exist in duplicates around ehre) into one, that's still 3 distinct roles. Given that normal and deadshot didn't claim to have info and you just assumed they did, your suspicion came from one person saying they had info and you thinking that way too many info gatherers.

You falsified information to get people to vote for someone. No townies do that where I come from. That's a fine way to get yourself lynched, in fact. If townies start fabricating info than the mafia just has to sit back and let us lie ourselves into a mafia win.

You shouldn't assume that we play like you do where you come from. That can get YOU lynched. :laugh:

You had to reread your role to understand what your ability is? I think you needed time to fabricate an ability that would encourage us to lynch someone else once you were caught in the lie. My vote stays where it is.

I reread because I remembered an exception, but couldn't remember the details. Not that you don't, but I have a lot going on in my life.

Fabricate an ability? Ok, I'm the cop and I copped you as mafia. How's that? But wait, in case I'm found to be wrong when we lynch you, I might have been misdirected. Or maybe I'm insane or paranoid. Or maybe I just forgot who I targeted.

No wait, I'm a self tracker. Seriously. Each day I can tell you exactly who I targeted.

Feel free to keep your vote where it is. You're either wrong, or you've got an ulterior motive to want me dead.

Aemon Kristen
11/23/2010, 08:33
A game with three informative roles is, more often than, an overbalanced game. You claimed info on Jerry, Deadshot guessed at info (I misinterpreted it as him claiming to be better informed) and Normal wanted Jerry to reveal:

But if we can put enough heat on Jerry, we can at least get a role claim out of him (and maybe even targets and power) and see if that jives with what we know.

Jive with what we know? At this point we know absolutely nothing, so his comment implies that he has additional information. Several people called him on this.

Any way you look at it, you fabricated info to get people to vote Jerry, you called out on using your power on Kontrol and claimed that he must have an aggressive power and that's why your ability blocked him and now you are listing ways that you might be mistaken about control. That's called hedging your bets. You are leaving yourself an escape route for when/if he flips innocent.

Aemon Kristen
11/23/2010, 08:38
I have a question for everyone: Are townies encouraged to fabricate information on this forum? I'm trying to figure out if Stan is just trying to save his butt or if that is really the way you guys roll here. I gotta say, not lynching on day 1 threw me for a loop. It's like giving the mafia a free kill.

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 08:42
A game with three informative roles is, more often than, an overbalanced game. You claimed info on Jerry, Deadshot guessed at info (I misinterpreted it as him claiming to be better informed) and Normal wanted Jerry to reveal:

Please define "overbalanced."

Jive with what we know? At this point we know absolutely nothing, so his comment implies that he has additional information. Several people called him on this.

Whether or not normal is town, his use of the word we refers to his inclusion in the town as a whole. He's referring to our information, meaning what I had on Jerry.

Any way you look at it, you fabricated info to get people to vote Jerry, you called out on using your power on Kontrol and claimed that he must have an aggressive power and that's why your ability blocked him and now you are listing ways that you might be mistaken about control. That's called hedging your bets. You are leaving yourself an escape route for when/if he flips innocent.

Nah, I was explaining why your whole logic of "either you're mafia or he is mafia" is flawed to the core. You see things in black and white and mafia is all grey. I think you may find your first few games to be very humbling if you continue to do this.

PaxZRake
11/23/2010, 08:49
I have a question for everyone: Are townies encouraged to fabricate information on this forum? I'm trying to figure out if Stan is just trying to save his butt or if that is really the way you guys roll here. I gotta say, not lynching on day 1 threw me for a loop. It's like giving the mafia a free kill.

There are some of us who lie as Town, yes. I like to do it if I think I can get away with it. It really takes the wind out of the Mafia's "informed minority".

There are some of us who like to lynch on D1. There are more of us who aren't a fan of it, but who will do it given the mood.

There is no hard and fast rule for these things though, you kind of have to take it in stride and see where the game goes.

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 08:54
I gotta say, not lynching on day 1 threw me for a loop. It's like giving the mafia a free kill.

I tend to agree, but I've been overruled around here.

Aemon Kristen
11/23/2010, 08:55
@ Stan- this may be my first game in this forum, but hardly my first game ever. I still read you as scum and my vote stays where it is.

Aemon Kristen
11/23/2010, 09:08
Overbalanced means that one side or the other has been a clear winning advantage due to role/power distribution. It doesn't mean that they WILL win, just that they are heavily favored.

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 09:44
@ Stan- this may be my first game in this forum, but hardly my first game ever. I still read you as scum and my vote stays where it is.

It's obvious you've played before. I just think it's different here. And as I said before feelf ree to keep your vote there. There's nothing more I can really say, and no reason for me to get upset about it. It's part of the game.

Overbalanced means that one side or the other has been a clear winning advantage due to role/power distribution. It doesn't mean that they WILL win, just that they are heavily favored.

Noted.

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 09:47
Vote Update

Stan(9): The Darkstone, ghosta, NormV, Jerry_Damage01, The Vision, veguto, IM, Aemon, Wade
Dumas(1): kontrol

12 for a lynch.

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 09:47
Vote Update

Stan(9): The Darkstone, ghosta, NormV, Jerry_Damage01, The Vision, veguto, IM, Aemon, Wade
Dumas(1): kontrol
kontrol: (1) Stan

12 for a lynch.

Immortal_Raven
11/23/2010, 09:48
Did no one else notice that stan removed his vote pretty early, even before the pressure on him started? I'd be more inclined to lynch kontrol. If kontrol is mafia, then Stan is in the clear most likely. If not, Stan is dead tomorrow via lynching.

On the other hand, if we lynch Stan, we don't know anything else about kontrol and the only saving grace there would be if Stan turned up scum. Personally, I'm not very comfortable voting for either party at this point.

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 09:53
Did no one else notice that stan removed his vote pretty early, even before the pressure on him started? I'd be more inclined to lynch kontrol. If kontrol is mafia, then Stan is in the clear most likely. If not, Stan is dead tomorrow via lynching.

On the other hand, if we lynch Stan, we don't know anything else about kontrol and the only saving grace there would be if Stan turned up scum. Personally, I'm not very comfortable voting for either party at this point.

No worries, man. Everyone's happier following the lead of the guy who's not used to our "customs" yet. They'll learn. Either that or they don't care if I'm being truthful because they're not down with the power of Love.

MSU
11/23/2010, 09:56
How much time do we have left?

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 09:57
No worries, man. Everyone's happier following the lead of the guy who's not used to our "customs" yet. They'll learn. Either that or they don't care if I'm being truthful because they're not down with the power of Love.

aMkU-Qf_3N0

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 09:58
How much time do we have left?

Until 2:43 EST today.

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 09:59
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MSU
11/23/2010, 10:03
Stan, either you are trying too hard or your are spamming the thread.

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 10:04
Stan, either you are trying too hard or your are spamming the thread.

Trying too hard to do what? And yes I found the love things amusing so spam it is I guess.

MSU
11/23/2010, 10:05
Trying too hard to do what? And yes I found the love things amusing so spam it is I guess.

You keep posting and posting. Trying too hard to convince us you are rogue.

You claim guide that RBs a kill.

We had two hits last night.

Who was Kontrol trying to kill then?

Isn't it possible that someone blocked Kontrol instead?

VenomDaBomb
11/23/2010, 10:09
Vote Update


Stan(8): The Darkstone, ghosta, NormV, Jerry_Damage01, The Vision, veguto, IM, Aemon Kristen, Wade Wilson

St-D(1): kontrol

12 for a lynch.

Mr Stranger
11/23/2010, 10:13
I think Stan is pissed and that's why he's "spamming".

Personally, I believe his claim and I've seen others say things along the line of, "yeah well I want to hear from X. I might have some information that says they are guilty" when really they're just fishing.

Plus Kontrol never denied having a kill power.

And in a game like this, we could have a vig, a serial killer and a mafia hitman so three kills. We only have two last night.

Vote: Kontrol

If I'm wrong then so be it, but right now the odds are good that lynching Kontrol will be in the favour of the town if he has a kill power.

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 10:15
You keep posting and posting. Trying too hard to convince us you are rogue.

You claim guide that RBs a kill.

We had two hits last night.

Who was Kontrol trying to kill then?

Isn't it possible that someone blocked Kontrol instead?

So put your money where your mouth is and vote for me, man. There's nothing more I can say.

I'm a guide who blocks aggressive behavior.

Good. You can count to two.

How should I know? Ask kontrol.

Yep, I did.

Vote Update


Stan(8): The Darkstone, ghosta, NormV, Jerry_Damage01, The Vision, veguto, IM, Aemon Kristen, Wade Wilson

St-D(1): kontrol

12 for a lynch.

ok so my vote doesn't count and neither does Aemon's?

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 10:17
I think Stan is pissed and that's why he's "spamming".

Personally, I believe his claim and I've seen others say things along the line of, "yeah well I want to hear from X. I might have some information that says they are guilty" when really they're just fishing.

Plus Kontrol never denied having a kill power.

And in a game like this, we could have a vig, a serial killer and a mafia hitman so three kills. We only have two last night.

Vote: Kontrol

If I'm wrong then so be it, but right now the odds are good that lynching Kontrol will be in the favour of the town if he has a kill power.

Not pissed at all but thanks for having my back, sugah. And spamming is posting irrelevant things. I've posted none of that that wasn't in character for a love obsessed corps.

Immortal_Raven
11/23/2010, 10:19
I'll agree with Stranger. Even if kontrol is a Vig, one less night kill would be nice and give us more wiggle room.

lynch:kontrol

Mr Stranger
11/23/2010, 10:20
Not pissed at all but thanks for having my back, sugah. And spamming is posting irrelevant things. I've posted none of that that wasn't in character for a love obsessed corps.

I'd be pissed if I were you.

What colour is your corps? Pink?

VenomDaBomb
11/23/2010, 10:21
Vote Update


Stan(8): The Darkstone, ghosta, NormV, Jerry_Damage01, The Vision, veguto, IM, Aemon Kristen, Wade Wilson

St-D(1): kontrol

Kontrol(3): Stan, IR Mr.Str,

12 for a lynch.

Jerry_Damage01
11/23/2010, 10:22
I believe Stan's claim. Rogue makes sense and the power is reflective of what I'd expect a Violet Lantern to have.

Vote Kontrol

Aemon Kristen
11/23/2010, 10:28
And after Stan spends so much time trying to convince us that Kontrol might not have a killing role, Stranger and Raven decide Kontrol is the best lynch. Wow. I mean...wow.

On a side note, I'd say it seems a blue corps member blocked my vote, judging from the color of my name.

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 10:30
I'll agree with Stranger. Even if kontrol is a Vig, one less night kill would be nice and give us more wiggle room.

lynch:kontrol

Losing the vig is bad. I hope he has some time to come back and claim before it comes to that. Plus, we can have one less night kill if I'm allowed to shut him down again. Of course all this is assuming he's a NK'er.

I'd be pissed if I were you.

What colour is your corps? Pink?

Technically violet.

Mr Stranger
11/23/2010, 10:31
And after Stan spends so much time trying to convince us that Kontrol might not have a killing role, Stranger and Raven decide Kontrol is the best lynch. Wow. I mean...wow.

On a side note, I'd say it seems a blue corps member blocked my vote, judging from the color of my name.

Actually, from the way you've been going on I'd say you were the best lynch, but I decided we had better odds with Kontrol.

deadshot042
11/23/2010, 10:36
I'm a guide who blocks aggressive behavior.

Good. You can count to two.

How should I know? Ask kontrol.

Yep, I did.

I'm glad I waited for your response before voting. The dialogue between you and Aemon has been pretty revealing and what you're saying right now makes sense. So to apply a little more pressure...
Vote: Kontrol

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 10:37
Actually, from the way you've been going on I'd say you were the best lynch, but I decided we had better odds with Kontrol.

I second that.

deadshot042
11/23/2010, 10:37
Actually, from the way you've been going on I'd say you were the best lynch, but I decided we had better odds with Kontrol.

Quoted for truth.

MSU
11/23/2010, 10:38
I'll agree with Stranger. Even if kontrol is a Vig, one less night kill would be nice and give us more wiggle room.

lynch:kontrol

Are you kidding me???

I should lynch you for the shear idiocy of this statement.

I don't think Stan or Kontrol are good lynches for tonight. I think a lot has been made out of NOTHING. I don't think Kontrol has a kill power that is anti-town since we saw two anti-town hits last night.

I think Kontrol was blocked by someone else.

MSU
11/23/2010, 10:39
So put your money where your mouth is and vote for me, man. There's nothing more I can say.

I'm a guide who blocks aggressive behavior.

Good. You can count to two.

How should I know? Ask kontrol.


Good, You can count to two?

Dude, I was going to back you up but now you are playing the "Woe is me" card, much like other less experienced Realmsers.

I don't think you are bad but the way you are going on with the spam, the constant posting of really nothing that is helping your case, and now the pity party card....it's making it difficult to NOT vote for you.

Ignatz_Mouse
11/23/2010, 10:42
How in the world would a Vig work in a game with alignments like this anyway?

I'm guessing there is no traditional "vig" in this game

lynch kontrol

kontrol
11/23/2010, 10:43
Who was Kontrol trying to kill then?

Isn't it possible that someone blocked Kontrol instead?
To answer the questions.

Someone who is not dead. Of course note that Black Lantern Corps made a kill as did the Orange Lantern. Leaving me to be something else.

Yes it is possible. The write up kind of implies he's in the writeup with me. As does his claimed corps affiliation. As that person calmed me down.

MSU
11/23/2010, 10:45
Exactly - someone calmed Hulk down, aka RBed him!

MSU
11/23/2010, 10:46
I need to not hit reply so fast.

AKA, I don't think Kontrol is bad.

I think some of you are making mountains out of nothing.

kontrol
11/23/2010, 10:51
I'll agree with Stranger. Even if kontrol is a Vig, one less night kill would be nice and give us more wiggle room.

lynch:kontrol

I'm glad I waited for your response before voting. The dialogue between you and Aemon has been pretty revealing and what you're saying right now makes sense. So to apply a little more pressure...
Vote: Kontrol

I'm of the mind that you two and or St. Dumas are mafia

But since you're around

change vote: Immortal_Raven

MSU
11/23/2010, 10:52
Glad I am not the only one is wary of IR and Dumas.

IR's statement is just so out there....

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 10:55
Good, You can count to two?

Dude, I was going to back you up but now you are playing the "Woe is me" card, much like other less experienced Realmsers.

I don't think you are bad but the way you are going on with the spam, the constant posting of really nothing that is helping your case, and now the pity party card....it's making it difficult to NOT vote for you.

:laugh: That was a tongue in cheek joke. I should have put a smiley in there. Figured you'd get it, but apparently not. My bad.

I'm not playing the woe is me card at all. I'm totally fine with getting lynched as I've stated numerous times now.

In fact the only part that's got me upset a bit is the spam comment. It's one thing to call me a scummer. It's another entirely to say I'm ruining the game and the thread. I am not spamming anything. I'm either posting game relevant things (regardless of whether it's helping me or not) or in character things. If my posting annoys you, I'm sorry. I'm playing the game. How would you like me to play? People get upset when others on the chopping block don't talk. I do and it's spam? *head explodes*

If you want to vote for me, do it. It's fine. Really. I can't convey any more clearly that I'm fine with being lynched to further the game. I want to play, but I'm doing the numbers in my head here. We've likely got a Black Lantern Mafia and I'm guessing I can't win with the red/orange/yellow non mafia players. Given that, there's likely a majority of people who want me gone. So people are going to purposely "accidentally" lynch me to further their goals.

I think you're putting too much emotion into my words. When I say that people will regret getting rid of me or that people will learn, it's a very matter of fact thing. Clearly I'm not coming across that way since more than one person read that, but I'm not one to chuck a fit over getting votes. It's part of the game.

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 10:59
To answer the questions.

Someone who is not dead. Of course note that Black Lantern Corps made a kill as did the Orange Lantern. Leaving me to be something else.

Yes it is possible. The write up kind of implies he's in the writeup with me. As does his claimed corps affiliation. As that person calmed me down.

I'm cool with that. I said I only needed a power claim.

I'm of the mind that you two and or St. Dumas are mafia

But since you're around

change vote: Immortal_Raven

Yeah, wanting the vig dead was odd. Based on prior hints, I think Stranger was just following a fellow sister. I'm fine with leaving him alone. vote: Immortal Raven

normalview
11/23/2010, 11:03
Caught up.

IR's statement about losing the vig is just waaaaaay too off the wall. The only reason we'd ever want to lose the vigilante is he is either not paying attention and killing indiscriminately OR if the mafia is controlling his targetting. We've got no evidence of either right now, so...

VOTE: Immortal_Raven

Mr Stranger
11/23/2010, 11:05
Alright, well I wish that whole Hulk thing had been sorted out earlier, but it seems clear what power Kontrol has now.

Stan, I think you're wrong about you not being able to win with other factions. I think any faction can win together as long as they're not a black lantern.

Also Remove Vote

I'm not going to add one to IR because I need to leave now, but I'll be on in the evening to see how things have progressed vote wise.

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 11:06
Alright, well I wish that whole Hulk thing had been sorted out earlier, but it seems clear what power Kontrol has now.

Stan, I think you're wrong about you not being able to win with other factions. I think any faction can win together as long as they're not a black lantern.

Also Remove Vote

I'm not going to add one to IR because I need to leave now, but I'll be on in the evening to see how things have progressed vote wise.

You can leave your vote with me if you want.

Immortal_Raven
11/23/2010, 11:11
I'm cool with that. I said I only needed a power claim.



Yeah, wanting the vig dead was odd. Based on prior hints, I think Stranger was just following a fellow sister. I'm fine with leaving him alone. vote: Immortal Raven


Here we go again. After reading kontrol's post that Orange and Black both made successful hits last night, I am of a mind that he's a vig and not an SK or Mafia. There's also a possibility that he was RBed by someone else. My previous statement implied there was a chance he was a vig, now I'm a little more certain and shall withdraw my vote.

And before you lynch me, I'm not scum. I nuked Aemon's vote of Stan because Aemon is way too active trying to lynch stan for a pressure vote that stan withdrew before anyone started voting for him. Come to think of it:

change vote: Aemon Kristen

DarqFeonix
11/23/2010, 11:11
Finally caught up. Amazing interactions today, as I have no idea who I want to vote for, which is strange. The funniest comment was Aemon's about 3 info gatherers unbalancing a game. I LOL'd, in regards to HCR games.

Mr Stranger
11/23/2010, 11:13
You can leave your vote with me if you want.

Leave vote with sstrawlkowski

ghosta
11/23/2010, 11:21
Wow, a lot of action today...

Remove vote

I don't know who I want to put my vote on...

VenomDaBomb
11/23/2010, 11:23
Vote Update


Stan(4): The Darkstone, The Vision, veguto,Aemon Kristen, Wade Wilson

Kontrol(3): Jerry_Damage01, deadshot042, Ignatz_Mouse

IR(4):kontrol, Stan, normalview, Mr Stranger(Tied to stan)

Aemon Kristen(1):Immortal_Raven

12 for a lynch.

MSU
11/23/2010, 11:26
Here we go again. After reading kontrol's post that Orange and Black both made successful hits last night, I am of a mind that he's a vig and not an SK or Mafia. There's also a possibility that he was RBed by someone else. My previous statement implied there was a chance he was a vig, now I'm a little more certain and shall withdraw my vote.

And before you lynch me, I'm not scum. I nuked Aemon's vote of Stan because Aemon is way too active trying to lynch stan for a pressure vote that stan withdrew before anyone started voting for him. Come to think of it:

change vote: Aemon Kristen

You said that even if he was the Vig, it is ok to get rid of him.

MSU
11/23/2010, 11:26
I'll agree with Stranger. Even if kontrol is a Vig, one less night kill would be nice and give us more wiggle room.

lynch:kontrol

Let me post this again...just for clarification.

ghosta
11/23/2010, 11:35
Lynch IR

It's not okay to lynch the vig unless he's only killing town.

Immortal_Raven
11/23/2010, 11:38
It was a statement acknowledging the risk. I was leaning toward kontrol being scum when I made the statement, but acknowledging the small silver lining if we did lynch the vigilante. I don't want to outright lynch the vigilante. Based on kontrol's post reminding me that Orange and Black both had successful kills and both are likely scum/bad neutrals, I removed my vote. That lends stronger support to him being a vig, strong enough that I don't want to lynch him.

MSU
11/23/2010, 11:41
There is no silver lining to lynching the vig...or any town member on day 2.

MSU
11/23/2010, 11:41
IR - need a name claim from you. Not a power, just a name claim and what color you are.

deadshot042
11/23/2010, 11:42
Has anyone considered that the Hulk is most likely a red lantern?
I honestly don't see the Hulk being a vigilante, it seems more likely that red lanterns would be serial killers.

DarqFeonix
11/23/2010, 11:53
There is no silver lining to lynching the vig...or any town member on day 2.

Unless get_1 is said Townie.

Has anyone considered that the Hulk is most likely a red lantern?
I honestly don't see the Hulk being a vigilante, it seems more likely that red lanterns would be serial killers.

Now this makes a lot more sense than a GL Hulk.

Lynch: kontrol

MSU
11/23/2010, 12:00
So we had the Vig kill Rokk and SL last night?

deadshot042
11/23/2010, 12:05
So we had the Vig kill Rokk and SL last night?

This makes the assumption that there is a vig.

It appears, based on the listing of Magneto and Ringmaster that each corps is an entity of itself (8 total with the rainbow corps and black lanterns) and that there are additional neutrals.

normalview
11/23/2010, 12:08
So we had the Vig kill Rokk and SL last night?

The kill on Rokk (Magneto) seemed Black Lantern-ish to me, but I supposed it could have been a vig kill.


I don't honestly know what was happening with SL. Probably SK activity, but who knows for sure with all the different Lantern factions running around.


And I want to add the possibility that the vig didn't try to kill anyone last night. At least, if they weren't reasonably sure about a target, I'd hope the wouldn't just NK randomly. And, if that's the case, the Hulk being blocked might be something else... maybe a PGO that was role blocked? Flimsy, I know, but I wanted to put the possibility out there so we don't get too tunnel-visioned here.

Immortal_Raven
11/23/2010, 12:20
The kill on Rokk (Magneto) seemed Black Lantern-ish to me, but I supposed it could have been a vig kill.


I don't honestly know what was happening with SL. Probably SK activity, but who knows for sure with all the different Lantern factions running around.


And I want to add the possibility that the vig didn't try to kill anyone last night. At least, if they weren't reasonably sure about a target, I'd hope the wouldn't just NK randomly. And, if that's the case, the Hulk being blocked might be something else... maybe a PGO that was role blocked? Flimsy, I know, but I wanted to put the possibility out there so we don't get too tunnel-visioned here.


A role-blocked PGO looks very plausible with the writeup. The writeup implies multiple people targeting him and him about to kill them when someone intervenes. As for me, I'm a blue lantern, as implied by Aemon's vote appearing in blue on Venom's update posts.

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 12:37
I'm ok to remove my vote as soon as IR claims character and color. :)

sstralkowski
11/23/2010, 12:38
And, if that's the case, the Hulk being blocked might be something else... maybe a PGO that was role blocked? Flimsy, I know, but I wanted to put the possibility out there so we don't get too tunnel-visioned here.

The thought had crossed my mind, but I kind of wanted to keep it on the down low in case.

deadshot042
11/23/2010, 12:46
I'm ok to remove my vote as soon as IR claims character and color. :)

I think it's safe to say IR is a blue lantern for now. He's alright by me.

coyotejack
11/23/2010, 12:53
I need to not hit reply so fast.

AKA, I don't think Kontrol is bad.

I think some of you are making mountains out of nothing.

I agree. I think a lot has been made out of nothing...however, we're seeing some very telling behavior come out of it. :)

As for IR, while I don't care for the comment about losing a Vig...we don't know if we have a traditional Vig yet and the claim of blocking that vote (and it coming up Blue) seems pretty solid.

kontrol
11/23/2010, 12:57
Yeah I guess the cat's out of the bag.

The Vision
11/23/2010, 13:02
Alright guys. Seeing as how I likely won't be believed enough to get protection tonight, my guide power has an exception. If the player I'm guiding has an aggressive power like a kill, then I block them. If you want to test this tonight, I will target Darkstone and he can confirm that I've targeted him without him failing. If I die before anything is revealed, let it be known that if kontrol failed, it's because he's got something aggressive like a kill power.

I believe this.

Withdraw Vote

Aemon Kristen
11/23/2010, 13:19
Question: PGO? You guys use abbreviations a lot and we seem to have different names for roles.

Jerry_Damage01
11/23/2010, 13:20
Question: PGO? You guys use abbreviations a lot and we seem to have different names for roles.

Paranoid Gun Owner. The role usually means that they kill whoever targets them at night.

deadshot042
11/23/2010, 13:34
I've never heard of PGO's before. Are they normally town?

Jerry_Damage01
11/23/2010, 13:36
I've never heard of PGO's before. Are they normally town?

I believe they are. I don't think I've ever been in a game with one or at least I know I've never gotten it as a role before.

The Vision
11/23/2010, 13:42
PGO's are usually town.

In my Serial Killer's Mafia, I gave the mafia the ability to make one member of the team a PGO each night.

So it's not 100%.

VenomDaBomb
11/23/2010, 13:48
Day 2

The Lanterns Flew around and Sought out one after another. In the confusion no one was brought to justice.

Night 2 Begins now. you have 24 hours to get in your night action.

VenomDaBomb
11/24/2010, 16:22
Day 2

The Rings were on fire This night. Colors Filled the air as the Many corps attack each other. A Mutant had a grin on his face as he charges his target. A blast of green hits him sending him flying. A Bald man was quite mad with the results of the past day, he gripped his ring and covered the innocent girl images of hate and fear, She Screams "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" and flies off. She Bumps into another and offers to help him but thats the last thing he is interested in. He grabs his power ring as he looks at her, She flinches and is consumed with fear.

His long large fingers touch each others tips as he dreams of his desires, He sees a Pink streak in the air. "I WANT IT!! WHATEVER IT IS!" His group of constructs charge when he is hit with a wall of ice. The Cold takes his mind off his target and the constructs disappear.

The Brute again is running from everyone, he has no interest in anyone or anything. When he is confronted by a pair of lanterns; each glowing a different color. He bears his teeth and raises his fists when he is surround by comforting colors, he relaxes and happily lays back on the ground.

The man wakes up from the fall, he shakes he head, he can't go back empty handed, he sees a green figure grabbing his head and talking to himself about protecting someone. The man doesn't care he disappears and is suddenly on top of the figure "GIVE ME YOUR HEART AND I WILL GIVE YOU PEACE!" the man punches through his chest and rips out the lanterns hearts - POWER LEVELS AT 50%.

Elsewhere a body once laid, However not any longer....

normalview has been killed he was Wolverine (Green Lantern Corps)

Rokk_Krinn Has return to the game.

With 22 players 12 is majority.

Ouchmaker
11/24/2010, 16:35
Was blocked last night, didn't see myself appear in the write-up.

Did someone get some info, or should we lynch Rokk and see if he's become a Black Lantern?

viciousbuddha
11/24/2010, 16:48
Was blocked last night, didn't see myself appear in the write-up.

Did someone get some info, or should we lynch Rokk and see if he's become a Black Lantern?

I'd say, yup!

Lynch: Rokk

veguto
11/24/2010, 17:12
Was blocked last night, didn't see myself appear in the write-up.

Did someone get some info, or should we lynch Rokk and see if he's become a Black Lantern?

I think the answer is we wait and see if we have info. It's a strong plan b.

coyotejack
11/24/2010, 17:23
Huh...he was yellow before. And now he's back. I don't like the feel of this.

Mr Stranger
11/24/2010, 17:32
Why are you guys assuming Rokk came back as a black lantern?

I don't see that anywhere.

coyotejack
11/24/2010, 17:40
Why are you guys assuming Rokk came back as a black lantern?

I don't see that anywhere.

I don't know if he's black or not. Hoping someone can shed some light on it. I don't think I'm comfortable with him even if he's back at his original color.

MSU
11/24/2010, 18:18
Was blocked last night, didn't see myself appear in the write-up.


As did I....who did you target?

Ouchmaker
11/24/2010, 18:36
As did I....who did you target?

Are you asking me who I would have targeted if I hadn't been blocked, or what?

St-Dumas
11/24/2010, 19:12
I'm here. Should be able to communicate more. Hopefully.

Immortal_Raven
11/24/2010, 19:29
I've got nothing to report on the night's events. I am very open to suggestions and I'm finding Rokk coming back very curious.

Rokk_Krinn
11/24/2010, 19:41
I've got nothing to report on the night's events. I am very open to suggestions and I'm finding Rokk coming back very curious.

As I suspect you may have had something to do with my N1 death, I suspect you would also be the one to start pushing on a lynch.

I doubt I came back as a Black Lantern though as I was just told I was rezzed and back in the game (so my guess is White).

kontrol
11/24/2010, 19:57
So I was popular last night.

Aemon Kristen
11/24/2010, 20:15
I'm curious about who Stan targeted last night. Did you target Darkstone last night as you suggested?

Immortal_Raven
11/24/2010, 20:50
As I suspect you may have had something to do with my N1 death, I suspect you would also be the one to start pushing on a lynch.

I doubt I came back as a Black Lantern though as I was just told I was rezzed and back in the game (so my guess is White).

Actually I didn't have anything to do with it. Notice I said curious about it without voting. Right now the jury is out on black or white. I do think you coming back as magneto and still yellow is out of the question. Here's a question, are you still Magneto?

ghosta
11/24/2010, 20:54
Do we want to get rid of the Orange Lantern?

DarqFeonix
11/24/2010, 20:54
So Venom forgot to tell me my powers were stolen on Night 1. Just for the first night, methinks.

kontrol
11/24/2010, 20:59
Do we want to get rid of the Orange Lantern?

I'd like to know who it is.

ghosta
11/24/2010, 21:01
I'd like to know who it is.


I need to know if he did kill someone night 1... Let me re-check the thread.

Mr Stranger
11/24/2010, 21:02
Do we want to get rid of the Orange Lantern?

I'd think so.

DarqFeonix
11/24/2010, 21:03
I need to know if he did kill someone night 1... Let me re-check the thread.

I imagine he's the one who stole my power N1.

Gambit?

ghosta
11/24/2010, 21:05
Yes, it looks like he is Mojo and did kill someone...

Lynch Pax

Kinda funny to me...sorry Pax

Mr Stranger
11/24/2010, 21:06
Lynch: Pax

Now we just need Spiral.

coyotejack
11/24/2010, 21:06
Vote Lynch Pax

Sounds like a solid catch.

Rokk_Krinn
11/24/2010, 21:09
Actually I didn't have anything to do with it. Notice I said curious about it without voting. Right now the jury is out on black or white. I do think you coming back as magneto and still yellow is out of the question. Here's a question, are you still Magneto?

Yes, still Magneto.

I was double-tapped on N1 considering I should have, otherwise, been immune to death.

Lynch Vote: Pax