thoughts on dupes vs. highlander

[muddflaps]

why is every one so wacked out when i play four wizard shazams, jackal, and maybe a tker or two in a thousand point game or how about three odins and jackal and what ever. thats cheese! they say,but its fine if you play cosmic spidy,blackadam/shazam, four other probers and some tk, as long as its "highlander" .....why?. am i mr. chedder or not?
go ahead, let me have it i can handle it......i think.....

[omegarobb]

I love the highlander rule, and I think that it should be enforced for all non-generic pieces. I will go even farther saying that I believe that you should not have more than one of any character on the team including duo bases. I personally would not run a batman/green arrow duo on the same team as another green arrow or batman. There is a few exceptions to my rule however.

1) You can run more than one Impossible Man. He makes everything possible!

2) in any game where there is a possibility of a colossal showing up feel free to run that cheese

[muddflaps]

so if i play six wheels of cheddar thats cheese, now if you play highlander cheese, say one of each: asiago-brie-gorgonzola-muenster-feta (the king of cheese by the way) and roquefort thats fine right? well i say cheese is cheese any way you serve it. yes?

[thanosstar]

personally i only play dupes of generics. but each to thier own ...do whay ya want. you bought your figures yo should decide how to use them. me thought?...whenever i win at my local venue i get to pick the next weeks format so i usually do whatever points and always use the highlander rule!

[Grinner]

I love the highlander rule, and I think that it should be enforced for all non-generic pieces. I will go even farther saying that I believe that you should not have more than one of any character on the team including duo bases. I personally would not run a batman/green arrow duo on the same team as another green arrow or batman. There is a few exceptions to my rule however.

1) You can run more than one Impossible Man. He makes everything possible!

2) in any game where there is a possibility of a colossal showing up feel free to run that cheese

Whereas on the other end of the spectrum this week we played 600 points where every figure on your team had to be the same character. Some people played a single figure (like an army of Gorilla Men), some people played different versions of a character (one person had all different versions of Hank Pym, I had all Dick Grayson).

[RavenProject]

why is every one so wacked out when i play four wizard shazams, jackal, and maybe a tker or two in a thousand point game or how about three odins and jackal and what ever. thats cheese! they say,but its fine if you play cosmic spidy,blackadam/shazam, four other probers and some tk, as long as its "highlander" .....why?. am i mr. chedder or not?
go ahead, let me have it i can handle it......i think.....

Without knowing more about your group, my first reaction is that people are "so wacked out" because those are boring teams.

That said... I have yet to hear anyone describe a straight thousand-point game that sounded like it was worth the effort.

-J

[omegarobb]

so if i play six wheels of cheddar thats cheese, now if you play highlander cheese, say one of each: asiago-brie-gorgonzola-muenster-feta (the king of cheese by the way) and roquefort thats fine right?

That is correct. If you may be going up against a galctus, or starro you better bring a truck load of cheese, but I believe that if you are playing in a game under 1000 points you should try to stick to highlander and limit the amount of cheddar.

[muddflaps]

cheese is fine with most of the group i play with but from one or two its wine, wine, wine!

[muddflaps]

next game will be all cracker.......41 hypertime rookie black mantas, would you be as upset with that team in a thousand point game i wonder

[omegarobb]

next game will be all cracker.......41 hypertime rookie black mantas, would you be as upset with that team in a thousand point game i wonder

You have 41 black mantas? I'll run 1000 lilan harpers. See i can stir the pot just as well as you;)

[muddflaps]

in a two hundred point sealed event at WWphilly i got laughed at by an eleven year old kid because i didnt put both rookie and vet hawk on my team, didnt think it was cheese, just didnt think it was right thing to do, i guess there is always a time and a place for cheese

[DarkLordVerjal]

Some people complain about anything they can grab onto, regardless of what it may be. If it happens to be something they say is annoying, cheesy, or simply dislike the challenge or player.

I'd simply call their bluff and play some outrageous BS team-- at least this time you aren't using multiples.:ermm:

[muddflaps]

You have 41 black mantas? I'll run 1000 lilan harpers. See i can stir the pot just as well as you;)

500 probs would be cheesey, i would lose to that team too but i would still shake your hand

[darius_dax1]

I think in a highlander game you should only be able to use one piece. "There can be only one."

[Dikarika]

Anybody who says "Highlander is more comics accurate." isn't reading enough comics.

There has been NUMEROUS examples of duplication/cloning/cosmic hilarity in comics since forever. The game has a set determiner of uniqueness (and wow, its even called UNIQUE! Go figure!) and should be played as such.

Any venue that plays a scenario as standard rules gets a big RED X in my book. Playing that was once in a while is fine, but accustoming players to a scenario as standard play is a bad kettle of fish.

Smelly, smelly fish.

[UltraMANOS]

Anybody who says "Highlander is more comics accurate." isn't reading enough comics.

There has been NUMEROUS examples of duplication/cloning/cosmic hilarity in comics since forever. The game has a set determiner of uniqueness (and wow, its even called UNIQUE! Go figure!) and should be played as such.

Any venue that plays a scenario as standard rules gets a big RED X in my book. Playing that was once in a while is fine, but accustoming players to a scenario as standard play is a bad kettle of fish.

Smelly, smelly fish.

I'll have to second this.

Also I personally feel as a hobbyist and the rightful owner of my collection, if I want to play multiple pieces of what I paid for I dont think it's ok for anyone to infringe on The pursuit of my happiness by restricting me to only play one of anything.

I usually buy 1 case or 3 bricks when a set comes out. for 400$ or 300$ why should I not play what i pulled? like the 4 groots, or the 3 morluns, or the 4 spiderhulks or even the 2 deadpools?

[DFitz1138]

To me, when playing a 1000pt game, cheese is expected. I see it as a chance for everyone to bring out either the big guns they haven't been able to use (Yes I used Cosmic Spiderman and even put an intergang agent next to him to give him outwit lol) or to make a team out of some crazy combo. Those that whine about it obviously don't like a challenge.

[thornan]

i don't think using several copies of a cheesey character is nearly as cheesey as a team of cheese. every figure has it's weaknesses, and any team of only one character has that weakness as a team.

[thanosstar]

im not sure people at my venue whine about cheese...it just gets annoying when u play against the same figures every game and almost every week.

[muddflaps]

would any one rate the wizard shazam as a cheesy figure in a 300 point game, i say nope. how about odin and a couple pogs.....very easy to beat right? ill take a shazam/black adam any time, served with white wine and wheat crackers please

[DFitz1138]

Odin is a beast no matter what the point build lol. =P

[DarkLordVerjal]

I'd argue Odin is a finesse piece, and not overpowered or easy to use at all. So "beast" I don't think I can agree with that, especially in a low-point build where he would simply get swarmed and annihilated.

[DFitz1138]

True, didn't mean he was easy to play. Just meant that when you're sitting across the table from someone using him, you see a 12 attack 19 defense with impervious piece with outwit. That makes him hard to hit and very dangerous. Not to mention he starts with pulsewave. Even in a 300pt game, unless you get lucky and hit that 19 defense and can get past the impervious, you're going to take a lot of damage and probably lose a few pieces before you take him down.