The Mafia of the World

[SkyKushryd]

Rules:

I'm sure we all know how to play mafia by now.

Notes:

I would reccomend to those of you with little knowledge of the theme to read up on the first book, and your Characters.

Unless otherwise stated, win conditions are:
Town - Win when mafia is eliminated
Mafia - Win when town is eliminated

This game takes place in the Ways, where dangers lurk unseen in the darkness, probably best not to get too inactive. :devious:

Players (6):

Jerry_Damage01
coyotejack
Silver Lantern
Jackofhearts2005
Mr Stranger
WWWWombat

Dead (6):
Magnito - Min Farshaw (Town)
Song of Ice and Fire - Elayna and Gawyn Trakand (Town)
veguto - Matrim Cauthon (Town)
Immortal_Raven - Myrddraal (Mafia)
Aemon Kristen - al'Lan Mandragoran (Town)
normalview - Perrin Aybara (Town)

[Aemon Kristen]

Checking in and VOTE MAGNITO because I have nothing better to do right now.

[SkyKushryd]

The group was running.

Running from The Dark Ones hounds.

But how do you run from dreams?

How do you run from destiny??

The Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills, and the Wheel had woven them into Caemlyn for the time being.

Trollocs surround the city, and with no escape, the group plunges into the Ways.

What happens next?

We'll have to see.

With 12 players remaining, 7 is majority.

[SkyKushryd]

Checking in and VOTE MAGNITO because I have nothing better to do right now.

I guess I didn't explicitly state no posting, so I'll accept this.

Vote count:

Magnito (1):Aemon Kristen

With 12 players, 7 is majority.

[Aemon Kristen]

Sorry about that. I got a little anxious.

[Immortal_Raven]

You started after my bedtime, but a new mafia game with Mcdonald's breakfast is a great start to the day. Checkin in.

[WWWWombat]

:d :d :d :d

[veguto]

Checking in. If we are in the ways I predict an appearance by Machin Shin.

[coyotejack]

Excellent! Glad to see this one open. :)

[Magnito]

Checking in and VOTE MAGNITO because I have nothing better to do right now.
That was ballsy of you. Voting for me before the game even starts.

[Immortal_Raven]

That was ballsy of you. Voting for me before the game even starts.

Or Supernatural, might be an Aes Sedai power. I hope we see Machin Shin as well, though the only conceivable roles I could see for Machin Shin are evil ones.

[Song of Ice and Fire]

VOTE MR STRANGER My mom told me never to talk to strangers or take candy from them.

BTW, everyone who likes reading and hasn't read this series really should. Or else I'll feed you to the trollocs XD

[Immortal_Raven]

Or if you're like me and have an office job, get the books on CD from a library. Currently rereading the series via the CD player on my office comp. Really passes the time.

[normalview]

Checking in, but I am currently travelling for the holidays so I'll be on sporadically for the next couple days.

This should be howling good time :) Love the series.

[Song of Ice and Fire]

Unvote How long do days last Sky dear?

[SkyKushryd]

Unvote How long do days last Sky dear?

24 hours, thought I included that in my opening post.

:ermm:

This day ends at 10:00pm PST.

[Mr Stranger]

Checking in, and if this phase ends at 10:00 PM then this is going to be a quick phase.

[SkyKushryd]

Checking in, and if this phase ends at 10:00 PM then this is going to be a quick phase.

10 pacific, so 1am eastern.

It opened yesterday at 10PM, so thats 24 hours, not gonna make day 1 much longer. :laugh:

[Mr Stranger]

10 pacific, so 1am eastern.

It opened yesterday at 10PM, so thats 24 hours, not gonna make day 1 much longer. :laugh:

Oh right, okay.

Where do you live?

[WWWWombat]

Vote jackofhearts

[SkyKushryd]

Oh right, okay.

Where do you live?

Northwestern Canada eh.

Vote Count:

Magnito (1): Aemon Kristen
Jackofhearts2005 (1): WWWWombat

With 12 players, 7 is majority.

Majority was not reached!!!

The group was tired from their close call with the Shadowspawn, and not much was done.

But even as most settled down for sleep, plans were being laid for the night to come.

Night 1 begins now!!!

You have 24 hours to submit your actions.

[SkyKushryd]

Rand awoke, sweating and short of breath, he had dreamed of the man with eyes of fire again. The man had laughed and told him that his end was coming soon. Rand decided he had better keep his sword drawn tonight.

"You stupid woolheaded man, what do you think you're doing, sneaking up on me like that?, you could have scared me to death!"

She had a rare ability, reading peoples auras. She didn't know why she had followed these people into the Ways. Moiraine was her friend, but not enought to risk her life for. It was that boy, that farmer. Ever since she had met him, her thoughts were in a jumble. In fact, they were in such a jumble that she didn't even notice the shadowy figure running her through with a sword. His cloak never moved.

Magnito (Min Farshaw) - Town is dead.

With 11 players, 6 is majority.

This day phase will end at 9PM PST on monday, or when majority is reached.

[coyotejack]

Checking in!

[Song of Ice and Fire]

Really guys? Really? *tugs her braid* (that has nothing to do with my character, I promise not a hint, I just lurv this theme) You just had to go and kill Min, didn't you. The least annoying of th Dragons girlfriends, though not my favorite. I love Aviendha.

Anyhow, CJ I find that post mildly interesting. I know you guys play differently here, and I'm going to get flack for my play style, checking in without any input whatsoever just looks anti town to me. So dear cj I am going to
VOTE CJ

[Mr Stranger]

Song, I've seen CJ do that in every game he's been in whether he's Town or Mafia.

And I really hope we have something better this phase than just meta-tactics.

[Song of Ice and Fire]

well see we have two days, so really my vote is more of a pressure vote and just to poke at everyone to get more talk. Normally I am the one who tries to get conversation going. After day 1 most people are hesitant to get their feet wet. I just jump in head first. lulz Don't you just love my metaphors... XD

[Mr Stranger]

well see we have two days, so really my vote is more of a pressure vote and just to poke at everyone to get more talk. Normally I am the one who tries to get conversation going. After day 1 most people are hesitant to get their feet wet. I just jump in head first. lulz Don't you just love my metaphors... XD

Reminds me of a tub of jello actually.

Anyway if it's a pressure vote I'll help: Vote: Coyotejack

But I'm just personally not a fan of meta-stuff, so if you'd started off mentioning it was pressure I'd have been a little more forthcoming.

[Silver Lantern]

Interesting how Mr. Stranger is seemingly defending CoyoteJack...

vote: CoyoteJack

[Aemon Kristen]

That's half the votes needed for a lynch. Let's see if he has anything to say. In the meantime, I'm going to put my VOTE on SILVER LANTERN for inactivity. Not even a checking in post.

[Mr Stranger]

That's half the votes needed for a lynch. Let's see if he has anything to say. In the meantime, I'm going to put my VOTE on SILVER LANTERN for inactivity. Not even a checking in post.

Uhh... ^^^

[SkyKushryd]

Vote Count:

coyotejack (3):Song of Ice and Fire,Mr Stranger, Silver Lantern

Silver Lantern (1):Aemon Kristen

With 11 players, 6 is majority

[Jerry_Damage01]

Checking in but going to hold off voting until CJ checks in.

[Immortal_Raven]

Checking in but going to hold off voting until CJ checks in.

I echo these sentiments. Half way is good enough pressure. A couple other thoughts from the write-up:

Looks like Min was killed by a Myrrddraal. If you haven't read the books, one of the key characteristics is their cloaks not moving.

Also, any speculation on what Min's power was. I'm thinking Cop, but I'll have to pull out a mafia glossary to see if anything else really fits.

Are you sure that wasn't a hint with the braid pulling Song? Regardless, still funny and you get cool points for it.

[Song of Ice and Fire]

lol in the pokemon mafia game I mentioned I was a good singer, my name has the word song in it, and everyone took that statement as me claiming a singing pokemon. So I realize that I have to clarify some of my statements now so I don't confuse the game :oP

I agree that it sounds like Min was a cop.

I also find it interesting that Silver Lantern is throwing suspicion on Mr Stranger for his anti metagaming. If you guys read a few of my other games, I hate metagaming too, but sometimes that's where you gotta start the game until you have more information.

And then Aemon's check in post is voting someone for not checking in lulz

Anyway I'll keep my vote where it is for now, but FoS Silver

[Immortal_Raven]

I don't mind a check in post, but you've gotta do more. A check-in post is something you do to make sure you're not modkilled.

Anyhow, we have 48 hours for the phase, so I'll give CJ until Monday morning to post in detail, or if anyone else has leads. No rush to lynch, as long as something productive is done.

[Mr Stranger]

And then Aemon's check in post is voting someone for not checking in lulz


But she voted for someone that "checked in" right before her post.

[Song of Ice and Fire]

That's why I found it funny, Mr. S. And Aemon's a he. XD

[Mr Stranger]

That's why I found it funny, Mr. S. And Aemon's a he. XD

By default, if I don't know someone's sex I say "she".
Our language doesn't have the vocabulary to support genderless pronouns.

[coyotejack]

I wasn't sure if I'd be on much so I checked in. As for the pressure, what would you like to know?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Ooooh. FoS huh? Been awhile since I've seen that.

[Silver Lantern]

a name claim would be sufficient for me.

[coyotejack]

a name claim would be sufficient for me.

Elyas Machera

[coyotejack]

I'll give you one other taste for free: my action failed last night (targeted normalview at random).

[Song of Ice and Fire]

Interesting, so we've got a wolfkin, possibly. At least you aren't a cry baby like Perrin... lulz

I also find it interesting that your action failed against normal view...

[Song of Ice and Fire]

I'm going to UNVOTE, VOTE SILVER I think he's our best lead now. CJs response was sufficient for now.

Also I'm just going to say this right now, there's so many claims in this game, good guy claims, that I'm not going to believe every one. So if you claim someone, you better have enough to back it up.

[SkyKushryd]

Vote Count:

coyotejack (2):Mr Stranger, Silver Lantern

Silver Lantern (2):Aemon Kristen, Song of Ice and Fire

With 11 players, 6 is majority

And excuse my ignorance, but FoS???

[Mr Stranger]

Also I'm just going to say this right now, there's so many claims in this game, good guy claims, that I'm not going to believe every one. So if you claim someone, you better have enough to back it up.

What was it about CJ's claim that made you automatically believe him?

Because for me, I don't remember Elyas having that big of a role.

[Song of Ice and Fire]

In the first few books he was essential to Perrin, and Perrin and Eggy traveled with him and the tinkers for a bit. And no I didn't say I automatically believed him, if you see in my post after his I said we possibly had a wolfkin. But when I voted him, it was strictly because of his check in post and nothing more. Now that I have a little more to go on, that's what I'll use, until there's something more to go on again, and so on and so forth.

FoS means finger of suspicion. It's when you don't want to vote someone yet, but want them to know they're on thin ice.

[normalview]

JoH... how was your night?

[Jackofhearts2005]

JoH... how was your night?

Nothing bad as far as I know. Nothing especially good, either.

[Silver Lantern]

I'm Thom Merrilan. I'm apparently trying to get some 3 boys through some ordeal, whatever that's supposed to mean.

[Silver Lantern]

JoH... how was your night?

Interesting how you decided to just ignore the allegation that coyotejack targeted you and failed...

[WWWWombat]

Both of these claims smell to me. Elyas isn't very important and Thom disappeared at Whitebridge.

No vote yet, but FoS Song for scaring up two partial reveals.

[Song of Ice and Fire]

This is how these boys work over here, Wombat. They play mafia completely different than we do on DM. I never asked anyone to reveal. If you notice Silver asked CJ to reveal and Silver revealed himself. Look at all the other games, they reveal whenever they even get an ounce of suspicion put on them.

[normalview]

Interesting how you decided to just ignore the allegation that coyotejack targeted you and failed...

I didn't ignore it... I just didn't see it as particularly relevant.

I am not dead. My action succeeded. For the moment, that's all I need to know.


Now, if someone wants to come forward and admit to RB-ing CJ (or something along those lines), then I am all for the discuss. At the moment, though, this seems like an unproductive line of inquiry.


@JOH - thank you and noted.

[Jerry_Damage01]

This is how these boys work over here, Wombat. They play mafia completely different than we do on DM. I never asked anyone to reveal. If you notice Silver asked CJ to reveal and Silver revealed himself. Look at all the other games, they reveal whenever they even get an ounce of suspicion put on them.

It's scummy and a stall tactic to not reveal when pressured. Makes it look like you've got something to hide.

[WWWWombat]

This is mafia. Everyone has something to hide.

[normalview]

This is mafia. Everyone has something to hide.

Unless you don't ;)

[Jerry_Damage01]

Unless you don't ;)

Sounds scummy to me ;)

[Jackofhearts2005]

I didn't ignore it... I just didn't see it as particularly relevant.

I am not dead. My action succeeded. For the moment, that's all I need to know.


Now, if someone wants to come forward and admit to RB-ing CJ (or something along those lines), then I am all for the discuss. At the moment, though, this seems like an unproductive line of inquiry.

Indeed. Something like 90% of the time an action fails, it's because the player was roleblocked or jailkept. Untargetable players are rare. Even in a large game, not being able to target someone doesn't mean a lot unless there is a patern of players not being able to target a specific player.


@JOH - thank you and noted.

No problem.

[Song of Ice and Fire]

Well I find your guys' play sort of weird. If you reveal an important role you'll be more vulnerable to be nkd. If you lie about your role to protect it, and then you're caught lying, its automatically lynch time because only scum lie, which isn't true. It's going to take me awhile to adapt.

[Jerry_Damage01]

What's FOS? I've seen you say it a few times and it's something I'm not familiar with.

[Song of Ice and Fire]

A quote of mine from earlier.



FoS means finger of suspicion. It's when you don't want to vote someone yet, but want them to know they're on thin ice.

[normalview]

If you reveal an important role you'll be more vulnerable to be nkd.

Not really. You could tell me your character name right now and I wouldn't necessarily have any idea about what it is you can actually do.

Some characters might be a dead give away, perhaps, but most of the time a role claim doesn't automatically reveal a power... but claiming a role can help cement your identity for future reference and cross checking. If you're town, there is usually very little reason to lie about your role. After all, the mafia already know you're not on their team.


If you lie about your role to protect it, and then you're caught lying, its automatically lynch time because only scum lie, which isn't true.

If you think that giving away your role would automatically paint a target on your back, then lying is an option. Not necessarily a good one (if your caught in the fib you'll have an awful lot of 'splaining to do), but an option. But as I said above, you don't necessarily have to lie about your role in the first place.

[normalview]

Not really. You could tell me your character name right now and I wouldn't necessarily have any idea about what it is you can actually do.


As an example, Min is dead... but we've got no idea what it was that Min did. We could maybe make some guesses, depending on her role in the books, but that is all they'd be: guesses.

Off the top of my head, I can think of at least 3 powers that might suit Min and that is assuming the mod only dipped into the "Standard" pool of powers. If we've got some custom built powers in this game, all bets are off.

[WWWWombat]

Vote: Song

Also, I'm suspicious of Mr Stranger. His interactions with Song are interesting. He goes from antagonistic to helpful and back to antagonistic. It's possible he and Song are on a team and playing off each other.

[Silver Lantern]

I'll help put some pressure on vote: song.... Let's see if she criticizes her own reaction to pressure. :p

[Silver Lantern]

This is how these boys work over here, Wombat. They play mafia completely different than we do on DM. I never asked anyone to reveal. If you notice Silver asked CJ to reveal and Silver revealed himself. Look at all the other games, they reveal whenever they even get an ounce of suspicion put on them.

I revealed because Im town and don't want an entire day phase to be wasted on scummy people trying to "pressure" me.

Early character claiming is a sign of trustworthiness. For one thing, if you're lying about your claim claiming early makes it more likely that you take someone else's character and get busted. Secondly it makes it likely that the mafia nightkill you because it's one less confirmed townie. Third, it makes it so that town info gatherers don't waste night actions on you and beneficial actions go to townies...

Now, what the heck is DM, & how do you guys play over there??

[Song of Ice and Fire]

I am actually two characters. I am Elayne and Gawyn Trakand. The future queen and first sword of Andor. I also don't have any night actions. I'm in the military, you can't put any pressure on me that I can't handle my dears. ;o)

And I wasn't criticizing the way you guys play, it's just interesting and different. I'll just have to adapt because I have a feeling if I don't I won't be surviving many games here. I think that's why I didn't last long in the pokemon game. I was sort of confused. lulz

DM is dragonmount.com. It's actually a site base off of the theme of this mafia game XD. First off the first day is normally doubleish the amount of time than normal game days, to give us enough time to get into the game and make a lynch. Most games there is no such thing as a no lynch. It's either a majority lynch or the mod randomly kills someone if we can't make a descision. And normally you don't reveal until you're more than halfway to a lynch and normally that's only if you have a power role, obviously because anyone can claim to be a vanilla townie. I dunna I proobably missed some stuff.

[SkyKushryd]

Vote Count:

coyotejack (1):Mr Stranger

Silver Lantern (2):Aemon Kristen, Song of Ice and Fire

Song of Ice and Fire (2): WWWWombat, Silver Lantern

With 11 players, 6 is majority

[Immortal_Raven]

Two characters for one role? I tried that recently in a game and it didn't work. I knew it smelled scummy then, and it smells scummy now. I'll hold my vote since we have time, but claiming two characters is stretching it big time for me. A power claim would be useful, a plausible one showing both characters.

[Jerry_Damage01]

Two characters for one role? I tried that recently in a game and it didn't work. I knew it smelled scummy then, and it smells scummy now. I'll hold my vote since we have time, but claiming two characters is stretching it big time for me. A power claim would be useful, a plausible one showing both characters.

I've seen 2 character roles done in other games. It was town in the game I am thinking of. Could be mafia pretty easily though. I'll add a vote for pressure.

Vote Song

[Mr Stranger]

I've seen double roles as both town and mafia, so I don't think having a double role automatically leads to her being scum.

[Song of Ice and Fire]

Really you guys? So your punishing me because I have two roles. As if that's my fault. I don't have a night power. I do have a day power though. My vote counts as two towards a lynch. If that makes anyone happy to hear that... lulz

That's why I keep voting and unvoting, I don't want to accidently lynch someone with my extra vote.

[Song of Ice and Fire]

and by your I meant you're. Damn quick topic being so convenient that I don't spell check.

[SkyKushryd]

Vote Count:

coyotejack (1):Mr Stranger

Silver Lantern (2):Aemon Kristen, Song of Ice and Fire

Song of Ice and Fire (3): WWWWombat, Silver Lantern, Jerry_Damage

With 11 players, 6 is majority

[WWWWombat]

Was that a Freudian slip?

[Song of Ice and Fire]

You're funny womby.

Anyway, I'm going to UNVOTE, VOTE VEGUTO he only checked in and that's all he's posted. Period. But I have noticed him lurking an awful lot without putting his two cents in. That is definitely anti town behavior, and I'd like to see him start coming out of the shadows and start playing in the light, if you know what I mean.

[Mr Stranger]

Just as an FYI, but the "currently active users viewing this thread" thing at the bottom isn't completely accurate.

I think the issue was that it stalls.

[normalview]

Just as an FYI, but the "currently active users viewing this thread" thing at the bottom isn't completely accurate.

I think the issue was that it stalls.

Even when it is accurate, it could be that someone was viewing the thread (perhaps hours and hours ago) and just never closed their browser when they left the computer. I've done that from time to time.


In other words, it is a rough indicator at best.

[Song of Ice and Fire]

I know, it does it to me too, but that fact is that he has checked the thread and only posted once in the beginning. That's still lurking in my book.

[Silver Lantern]

remove vote, the power & claim atleast seemingly fit together.

[Aemon Kristen]

I don't think that claim fits at all. Looking at the vote count, her vote is only counting (visibly) as 1.

[Mr Stranger]

I don't think that claim fits at all. Looking at the vote count, her vote is only counting (visibly) as 1.

Double voters aren't added until the end, the number refers to the player count not the vote count.

Also, I like to give people some credit in that they wouldn't think up a power that could be so easily dissolved like that.

[Jerry_Damage01]

Remove Vote.

[Immortal_Raven]

I don't think that claim fits at all. Looking at the vote count, her vote is only counting (visibly) as 1.

That's the point. It only looks like one and then the trigger gets pulled before a technical majority is reached. It's a power I've seen on both sides. I don't know how common duel roles are, but from what everyone said I'll believe the claim for now. The double vote power actually fits pretty well.

[coyotejack]

That's the point. It only looks like one and then the trigger gets pulled before a technical majority is reached. It's a power I've seen on both sides. I don't know how common duel roles are, but from what everyone said I'll believe the claim for now. The double vote power actually fits pretty well.

I have to agree. I don't have as many games in as a lot of the players here, but I've seen double roles on both sides.

[Song of Ice and Fire]

Well we have about 6 hours to put our heads together and come up with someone to lynch. If we don't come up with a lynch, we risk the mafia picking us off one by one because we can't agree. A lynch will give us more information than a no lynch.

The two most scummiest reads I have right now are Wombat and Aemon. If Aemon doesn't believe my claim, why leave his vote on Silver rather than vote me. And then womby, I think his reasoning is scummy. FoSing me for scaring up reveals? And then voting me without reason really, and then trying to link me and Mr S as scum buddies? And then after my reveal, if he was town, I think he would unvote me until further discussion was had with the rest of the town on whether or not to believe my claim. Also my power is rather helpful, especially when we get further into the game especially if we lose more townies because scum will not vote their buddies. You'd think this might give him pause.

UNVOTE, VOTE WOMBAT also I noticed veguto has pulled out of most of his games that he's signed up for. Do we know if he's still playing this one?

[normalview]

Well we have about 6 hours to put our heads together and come up with someone to lynch. If we don't come up with a lynch, we risk the mafia picking us off one by one because we can't agree. A lynch will give us more information than a no lynch.

Or we risk lynching a townie because we've got very little information to go on.

If I was even sort-of-kind-maybe sure about anyone, I'd vote. In the absence of real information, though, I refuse to blindly vote and hope I get lucky; I'd rather lose just one townie tonight than lose one today and one tonight.

also I noticed veguto has pulled out of most of his games that he's signed up for. Do we know if he's still playing this one?

That would be a question for the mod. I've got no idea.

[Immortal_Raven]

As much as I hate to waste a day, I've got no leads and nothing seems concrete. Hopefully our trackers, RBers and info gatherers get something tonight. I have company visiting tonight and probably won't be able to check before the thread closes. In case something changes:

leave vote with normalview

[veguto]

Yeah, I'm still playing in spurts. I just started a new job so I'm pretty strapped for time. Trying to check in daily.

[veguto]

I maybe able to gather some information in coming nights, but I didn't get anything juicy night one.

[veguto]

I maybe able to gather some information in coming nights, but I didn't get anything juicy night one.

Heh, didn't even finish my thought... So I was lurking with out much to add this day phase sorry.

[Aemon Kristen]

Maybe you didn't see the part of my post that said visibly when talking about the vote count. All the other games I've been in, the double votes showed in the vote count. I left my vote where it was because I was not calling you out, but asking for other people's opinions. UNVOTE VOTE SONG. Now I'll vote you for being over-defensive and FOSing everybody and his brother to get the attention off of you.

[Song of Ice and Fire]

overly defensive? I don't think there was one ounce of being overly defensive. I know my role and I know my alignment. I don't have to be defensive, I answered to their pressure votes on me and that was it.

I find it interesting that you said you were waiting for everyone elses opinions. Most everyone else has made their opinion very clear, and yet you go against it, and only after I point out that you made no sense. I see you as playing reckless right now and very antitown. It's obvious that they aren't going to lynch me today. It seems like a last ditch effort to continue to build a bandwagon on me. Hopefully the rest of the town won't buy it.

[Jackofhearts2005]

None of those character claims mean aaaaanything to me.

[normalview]

None of those character claims mean aaaaanything to me.

I will admit it has been awhile since I read any of the books, but I am familiar with all the names used so far... so far :laugh:

[WWWWombat]

Looks to me like Song is panicking. Also she's trying to do away with both of the other DMers. Maybe we know too much about her or the book. I'm happy with my vote on her. I don't find any of these reveals to very compelling btw.

[Song of Ice and Fire]

haha there isn't any panick at all in me. and I could care less if you guys are dmers. There's people playing here that also know a lot about the source material, not just you guys. I think both of you are scummy. You're obviously not thinking about making decisions that are good for the town. Just looking out for yourself, which is scummy.

Hoestly, I don't have a night PR, so if you guys were to lynch me it wouldn't be that big of a loss for the town, though I do have tons of knowledge on the source material. I do have a pretty useful day power, but as it looks like we aren't ever going to agree to lynching someone (because you guys don't like to lynch, really what the hell people, get some balls and actually play mafia! no offense of course) so really my power is null and void. So I will willingly sacrifice myself for some information if you guys would like, in order to prove my innocense and in order to make you guys actually open your eyes and you ears and listen to what I'm saying because I obviously make more sense than some of you can comprehend :oP

Yes a lynch might make us lose a townie, but that gives us more information than sitting around waiting for someone to use a night action. The mafia already killed Min. I bet you anything her PR was cop, so we are already down one major PR. Sitting around and waiting for the mafia to just give us information is not going to work. but whatevs. Carry on.

[normalview]

Fine.. if you really think we should do something. VOTE: Song of Ice and Fire


Your claim, while feasible, doesn't feel quite right to me.

In addition, you DO seem to be pointing an awful lot of fingers and awfully itchy for a lynch.

[Song of Ice and Fire]

lulz if you guys lynch me, the town deserves to lose for letting the mafia lead them. That's all I'm going to say. Carry on ;)

[normalview]

lulz if you guys lynch me, the town deserves to lose for letting the mafia lead them. That's all I'm going to say. Carry on ;)

Anyone that uses the term "lulz" desrves what they get ;)

[Song of Ice and Fire]

That statement doesn't even deserve a response lulz

[normalview]

That statement doesn't even deserve a response lulz

And yet you did respond...

[WWWWombat]

And just like that we've gone from panic to apathy. What else do you have in store for us?

[Jerry_Damage01]

Can we get an update on the vote count?

[Song of Ice and Fire]

@normal I was just going to respond with a lulz just to rub it in your face, unfortunately I needed 10 characters

@womby I'm a woman, mood swings are my specialty ;)

[SkyKushryd]

Vote Count:

coyotejack (1):Mr Stranger

Song of Ice and Fire (4): WWWWombat, Aemon Kristen, normalview(Immortal_Raven)

WWWWombat (1): Song of Ice and Fire

With 11 players, 6 is majority

[Mr Stranger]

Actually Sky, IR gave his vote to normal so it's four out of six.

Song, I'd think if you actually cared about the Town you wouldn't have just said, "Go ahead lynch me".

[Jerry_Damage01]

How much time do we have left in the phase?

[Song of Ice and Fire]

I'm used to playing with people that are a lot more aggressive and where there's a lynch whether there's a majority or not. I've always been very aggressive when it comes to mafia. I would rather us vote to lynch and hit a townie, than not lynch anyone because a lynch gives us the information we need to actually hunt. That's why I said if you were to lynch me, it wouldn't be too big of a deal. I'm not a cop or a doctor or any power role that can give any information, but lynching me might give some information, note the people who were gunning for me, when people jumped on the wagon, etc. It seems that because I'm aggressive, that makes me scummy when in fact I think it makes me town because instead of lurking and in relying on others I'm taking initiative to hunt for myself.

I think a self sacrifice in order to help the greater good would in fact help the town, but now that I have had to spell it all out, mafia may or may not have taken my bait and now it's useless.

[normalview]

Your throwing around votes more or less at random. That's not going to gather you any real info and it is certainly not what I'd call aggressive play... recklessly agressive, perhaps.

Anyway, you seem to be on tilt for some reason and now that we're taking a closer look you try to explain it away as a different play style. Perhaps it is... and perhaps you're hiding something.

My vote stays were it is.

[Jerry_Damage01]

I'll add my vote.

Vote Song

[Mr Stranger]

I'm used to playing with people that are a lot more aggressive and where there's a lynch whether there's a majority or not. I've always been very aggressive when it comes to mafia. I would rather us vote to lynch and hit a townie, than not lynch anyone

:ermm:

I really don't want to vote for you, but statements like this really bother me.

[Song of Ice and Fire]

So you guys would really rather lynch a townie for playing aggressive than go after real scum? I think this is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen in mafia in my life.

[Jerry_Damage01]

So you guys would really rather lynch a townie for playing aggressive than go after real scum? I think this is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen in mafia in my life.

You just said that it'd be better to lynch you and get some information than it would be to not lynch you.

[Mr Stranger]

You just said that it'd be better to lynch you and get some information than it would be to not lynch you.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

[Song of Ice and Fire]

Yes, but that's not the reasons you guys are giving, you're saying it's my play style. Also I said that, but then I had to spell it out, so now how are you going to get info when now the scum know what I'm doing. Go ahead and lynch me if ya'll want, but what I was trying to do was ruined. I'm sorry you guys don't like aggressive players, I will try to tone it down in the future I guess...

[Mr Stranger]

Yes, but that's not the reasons you guys are giving, you're saying it's my play style. Also I said that, but then I had to spell it out, so now how are you going to get info when now the scum know what I'm doing. Go ahead and lynch me if ya'll want, but what I was trying to do was ruined. I'm sorry you guys don't like aggressive players, I will try to tone it down in the future I guess...

This has nothing to do with you being an aggressive player or not, it has to do with the fact that you are inconsistent.
You told us to vote for you and that you didn't care, because it would help us get information.
Now you're berating us for doing it.
You continue to mention your playing style, and everyone has told you that it's not because of that.
I really wanted to believe you, because I think a double voter would help the town out immensely, but I'm sorry your behaviour still bothers me.

Vote: Song

[Song of Ice and Fire]

I'm giving my bah post early, since I don't know if we can give them here, and I'm too mad right now to care. Bah, told you so, go town.

[Immortal_Raven]

My compnay is gone, but I'll keep my vote on Song. Just does not smell quite right.

[Mr Stranger]

My compnay is gone, but I'll keep my vote on Song. Just does not smell quite right.

By my count, Song has been lynched since you left your vote with Normal.

Why Normal by the way?

[SkyKushryd]

Vote Count:

Song of Ice and Fire (6): WWWWombat, Aemon Kristen, normalview(Immortal_Raven), Jerry_Damage, Mr Stranger

WWWWombat (1): Song of Ice and Fire

With 11 players, 6 is majority


Majority has been reached!

The siblings were frantic, pointing fingers at everyone.

"It was you!, wait, maybe you!, no wait, you've been too quiet!"

Eventually, the group decided they had had enough.

Song of Ice and Fire is dead, she was Elayne and Gawyn Trakand, children of Queen Morgase of Andor - Town

Night 2 begins now, you have 24 hours to submit your actions.

[normalview]

Yes, but that's not the reasons you guys are giving, you're saying it's my play style. Also I said that, but then I had to spell it out, so now how are you going to get info when now the scum know what I'm doing. Go ahead and lynch me if ya'll want, but what I was trying to do was ruined. I'm sorry you guys don't like aggressive players, I will try to tone it down in the future I guess...

Agressive really has nothing to do with it provided you play consistently.

Throwing around votes at random + inconsistent reasons/stories for what you want/why you're doing stuff =/= aggressive play

Real aggressive play, with a method to the madness that we could follow is totally welcome. As it was, it seemed like all you were doing was trying to vote for as many people as possible and then justify those votes anyway you could.

If I didn't know any better, I'd almost think you were a Jester...

[SkyKushryd]

Rand paced along the platform, wondering how he was to get out of this mess him and his friends had gotten into. Suddenly, he saw something, or rather, thought he did. It was hard to tell in the ways, where darkness seemed to devour the light, but it looked like a shadow passing over shadows. Blackness upon blackness. "Probably letting my mind play tricks on me"

Mat crouched, off from the rest. "I don't trust them," he muttered to himself, "They all have their own agenda, can't be trusted." He was cradling something in his hands.

The Myrddraal approached his target from behind, and as he went to run his sword through he boy, he saw a flash of red as the boy whirled and sliced him with a ruby hilted dagger. It was an evil, different from itself, but arguably as powerful. Two bodies lay on the floor.

veguto has died, he was Matrim Cauthon (Town)

Immortal_Raven has died, he was a Myrddraal (Mafia)

With 8 players remaining, 5 is majority.

You have 24 hours, or until majority is reached.

[Silver Lantern]

My action failed last night if anyone has any info on that. Can't imagine a townie would RB me after I claimed...

Of course a JKing may have also explained it, but don't want any JKer to out themselves obviously.

[coyotejack]

I got something, but I'll wait until morning. I'm exhausted and it doesn't look like too many are on right now. I share tomorrow! G'night!

[Silver Lantern]

As much as I hate to waste a day, I've got no leads and nothing seems concrete. Hopefully our trackers, RBers and info gatherers get something tonight. I have company visiting tonight and probably won't be able to check before the thread closes. In case something changes:

leave vote with normalview

Interesting that he'd leave his vote with NV, given that NV had not even claimed at all...

By my count, Song has been lynched since you left your vote with Normal.

Why Normal by the way?

Exactly...

The Myrddraal approached his target from behind, and as he went to run his sword through he boy, he saw a flash of red as the boy whirled and sliced him with a ruby hilted dagger. It was an evil, different from itself, but arguably as powerful. Two bodies lay on the floor.

veguto has died, he was Matrim Cauthon (Town)

Immortal_Raven has died, he was a Myrddraal (Mafia)

With 8 players remaining, 5 is majority.

You have 24 hours, or until majority is reached.

Damn was Matrim one of the boys I was supposed to be looking out for?

That sucks.

[Silver Lantern]

Oh and I almost forgot, vote: Normalview. With a known scummer leaving his vote with you for no apparent reason, I will at least need a full claim from you before removing my vote.

[normalview]

Oh and I almost forgot, vote: Normalview. With a known scummer leaving his vote with you for no apparent reason, I will at least need a full claim from you before removing my vote.

Or you could just ask nicely instead of threatening...

[WWWWombat]

With the town set to either lynch a townie or no lynch, would it really matter who I_R left his vote with? I smell a framejob. Will hold my vote until CJ releases this info he says he has.

[Immortal_Raven]

Darn it, and this mafia had my favorite subject matter.

[Jerry_Damage01]

Or you could just ask nicely instead of threatening...

I'll ask nicely. Can we please have a claim?

Until then...Vote Normalview

[normalview]

I'll ask nicely. Can we please have a claim?

Until then...Vote Normalview

I am Perrin, wolf-man extrordinare.

[normalview]

I wouldn't mind knowing what you've been up to the last two nights, Jerry.

Specifically, can you confirm your targets nights 1 and 2? I don't need a claim or powers, if you don't feel like sharing... just targets, if you please.

[Jerry_Damage01]

Night 1 I targeted JOH and Night 2 I targeted Silver.

[normalview]

Night 1 I targeted JOH and Night 2 I targeted Silver.

Noted. Thank you :)

[normalview]

I also noted that you did not remove your vote... might want to rectify that ;)

[Jerry_Damage01]

I also noted that you did not remove your vote... might want to rectify that ;)

Remove vote for Normal

[normalview]

I've got a couple likely suspects but I want to hear what CJ has first.

[coyotejack]

Vote Lynch Aemon Kristen

Jerry wasn't the only one to target Silver last night.

[Jerry_Damage01]

Vote Lynch Aemon Kristen

Jerry wasn't the only one to target Silver last night.

I'll add some pressure to this.

Vote Aemon Kristen

[coyotejack]

Keep in mind, my vote isn't just due to their target. They pushed on Song as well.

[normalview]

Vote Lynch Aemon Kristen

Jerry wasn't the only one to target Silver last night.

Good enough for pressure, but I was frankly hoping for more. VOTE: Aemon Kristen.

[coyotejack]

At least it's something. And, at the moment, the only thing.

[normalview]

At least it's something. And, at the moment, the only thing.

That's an intersting response. How exactly did you come by this info, anyway?

[coyotejack]

That's an intersting response. How exactly did you come by this info, anyway?

My response is because no one else is offering anything up. How I got Aemon's target is because I tracked him (one of my abilities...a have a couple but can't use them in a row).

[WWWWombat]

If you don't mind my asking, which one did you try to use on normalview?

[coyotejack]

If you don't mind my asking, which one did you try to use on normalview?

Actually I do mind since I'm making myself a bigger target...but I'll answer anyway. Block, but I failed.

[Silver Lantern]

Or you could just ask nicely instead of threatening...

It wasn't meant as a threat in any ways NV, sorry you took it that way.

But since you like to be asked nicely, I'll ask you something else:

Pretty please with a cherry on top, Normalview, are you town? ;)

I am Perrin, wolf-man extrordinare.

Would this fit in with the Mafia or town, for those who know the source material?

What I think you hinted at power wise and the wolf-man seem to go together, so I am feeling good about that.

However, I still don't like that you voted for song kinda willy-nilly because she "wanted to get something done." That's not your methodical and thoughtful play style, but certainly you may just be trying to change it up. I also don't like that the later revealed scummer left his vote with you. And I disagree with the frame job argument as Immortal Raven had no idea he would be killed.

Night 1 I targeted JOH and Night 2 I targeted Silver.

All good intentions, I hope.

Vote Lynch Aemon Kristen

Jerry wasn't the only one to target Silver last night.

Well Jerry should not be automatically off the hook, just because he came forward. I certainly want to hear from Aemon, though I think 3 votes is enough for pressure. Still either one could have been the misdirector, and no way the misdirector would MD an outed townie, so it has to be a scummer.

[Silver Lantern]

And by Misdirector, I mean ROLEBLOCKER of course... lol

[coyotejack]

And by Misdirector, I mean ROLEBLOCKER of course... lol

I think we knew what you meant. :) At least I did. lol

[Immortal_Raven]

Nonsensical post here, but since I'm a Myrrddraal I won't stop moving until the sun sets. So here's my last hurrah since I haven't died completely.

[SkyKushryd]

Vote count:

Aemon Kristen (3): coyotejack, Jerry_Damage, normalview

With 8 players left, 5 is majority.

[Mr Stranger]

Well, I've been waiting to see if he'd respond, but I don't want to stall out the day.

Should I add my vote?

Also CJ, did you claim Tracker? Because I might have a problem with that.

[coyotejack]

Well, I've been waiting to see if he'd respond, but I don't want to stall out the day.

Should I add my vote?

Also CJ, did you claim Tracker? Because I might have a problem with that.

I'd add the vote.

I didn't claim tracker. It IS one of my 3 abilities along with RT and RB. I just can't use them consecutively.

[Silver Lantern]

Well, I've been waiting to see if he'd respond, but I don't want to stall out the day.

Should I add my vote?

Also CJ, did you claim Tracker? Because I might have a problem with that.

Has he been online today? I too want to vote if he's just ignoring us. CJ hints at being an inventor or Jack of all trades, but normalview did hint at tracker, by 1) asking JoH how his night was, implying he knew who targeted JoH that night, and 2) asking Jerry whom his targets were each night, implying that he was double checking someone's targets.

[Silver Lantern]

If we have any protection out there, they should DEFINITELY be targeting Coyotejack tonight. We probably only have 2 scum left, and a tracker/reverse tracker is invaluable.

[coyotejack]

If we have any protection out there, they should DEFINITELY be targeting Coyotejack tonight. We probably only have 2 scum left, and a tracker/reverse tracker is invaluable.

And now you know why I didn't want to reveal too much. lol

[Mr Stranger]

Vote: Aemon Kirsten

How much time do we have left? I don't know why he wouldn't respond if he was on the line.

[Jerry_Damage01]

Looks like Aemon was online earlier today and didn't respond to the thread. I feel ok with my vote at this time.

[SkyKushryd]

Vote count:

Aemon Kristen (4): coyotejack, Jerry_Damage, normalview, Mr Stranger

With 8 players left, 5 is majority.

[normalview]

Would this fit in with the Mafia or town, for those who know the source material?

Perrin is one of Rand's original band of pals. I'm as town as they come.

[WWWWombat]

I'm uncomfortable right now with Aemon's silence. Nothing to be done abou that except to wait though. In the meantime, Silver, why did you say misdirector if you meant roleblocker? I had to go look misdirector up.

[WWWWombat]

Also, NV, do you have a problem with Mr Stranger having a problem with a tracker claim?

[normalview]

Also, NV, do you have a problem with Mr Stranger having a problem with a tracker claim?

I will admit that I am not sold on the claim, but I think there are stronger suspects right now.

[WWWWombat]

Like who? Also, I'm starting to see why Song flipped out. Not even a single competing train.

[normalview]

Also, I'm starting to see why Song flipped out. Not even a single competing train.


When we seem to have a more-or-less sure thing in Aemon, why in the world would you want to split the vote?!?

We might be wrong... and if we are, I am sure it will bite us in the hinder... but I don't really see any other viable candidate that would take priority.

[WWWWombat]

How is Aemon a sure thing? Jerry targeted Silver too.

[normalview]

How is Aemon a more-or-less sure thing? Jerry targeted Silver too.


Fixed it for you.


And to answer your question, the silence is rather damning. We might be wrong (as I already mentioned), and maybe there is a legitmate real life reason to not post, but I think it much more likely that the mafia is trying to stall out the day.

[normalview]

but I think it much more likely that the mafia is trying to stall out the day.

Which, incidentally, if this is the case, makes non-voters very interesting people indeed.

[WWWWombat]

Or it could be the mafia are on the wagon and a bunch of townies aren't voting. Or maybe the mafia is splitting "votes" or not voting because they don't give a damn if we lynch Aemon.

[SkyKushryd]

Vote count:

Aemon Kristen (4): coyotejack, Jerry_Damage, normalview, Mr Stranger

With 8 players left, 5 is majority.

Y'all got about 50 minutes left.

[WWWWombat]

Alright, I don't think Aemon is coming. I'd rather have info from a lynch than be stuck here again tomorrow less one townie.

Vote Aemon

I just hope he isn't Rand.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Well I was gonna hammer but I guess I won't now.

[SkyKushryd]

Vote count:

Aemon Kristen (5): coyotejack, Jerry_Damage, normalview, Mr Stranger, WWWWombat

With 8 players left, 5 is majority.

Majority has been reached!!

He stood there quietly, taking it all in.

"He's been too quiet, kill him!!!"

Aemon Kristen is dead, he was al'Lan Mandragoran (Town)

You have 24 hours to submit actions.

[SkyKushryd]

The man with yellow eyes was following his target, he was sure that they were evil. But before he could strike, a large beastlike shape came out of nowhere and struck him with its axe. Believing the man dead, it left. But the wheel had not woven him out of the pattern yet, as someone came along, and a chill ran through him.

Almost anything can be healed, short of death.

Noone has died!

With 7 players remaining, 4 is majority.

You have 24 hours.

[SkyKushryd]

Sorry about the lengthy delay, I got stuck with the midnight shift for a few weeks, and it's kinda been screwin with my scheduling.

[Jerry_Damage01]

Checking in for the day.

[normalview]

Any of the many claimed trackers know who targetted me last night?

[coyotejack]

My action specifically failed.

[coyotejack]

I'm assuming I was blocked since my info was bad.

[Silver Lantern]

Everyone who blocked someone should come forward with their info. Stranger, Normalview, Jerry, & Wwwombat were all on both townie lynches. And I still don't like how the only proven scum left his vote with Normal. vote: Normalview. I want a full claim, power & targets.

[normalview]

Everyone who blocked someone should come forward with their info. Stranger, Normalview, Jerry, & Wwwombat were all on both townie lynches. And I still don't like how the only proven scum left his vote with Normal. vote: Normalview. I want a full claim, power & targets.

I already told you I am town.

And since I know that you know that VOTE: Silver Lantern

[Jerry_Damage01]

Everyone who blocked someone should come forward with their info. Stranger, Normalview, Jerry, & Wwwombat were all on both townie lynches. And I still don't like how the only proven scum left his vote with Normal. vote: Normalview. I want a full claim, power & targets.

I"m town and I'm a townie you want to have around.

[Silver Lantern]

I already told you I am town.

And since I know that you know that VOTE: Silver Lantern

I don't care what you say. I don't listen to scummers. I look at the facts.

Fact: you lynched two townies rather haphazardly.

Fact: the only known scummer left vote with you and had no idea he was going to die when he did (making it less likely it was a frame job).

Fact: you know the source material and can easily concoct a fake claim.

Fact: instead of giving your power and night targets you try to deflect in response to my request.

Normal is scum people. Lynch him.

[Jerry_Damage01]

Normally I'd hop onto the lynch train and add my vote. However, I think we should take our time today. We only need 4 votes to lynch and if we get a Townie today, we risk losing control and then majority by tomorrow's day phase. I'm assuming there are at least 2 Mafia left and at least 1 Neutral.

[normalview]

Fact: instead of giving your power and night targets you try to deflect in response to my request.

FACT: I am not giving you my power or night targets because you are so transparent that it is actually kind of funny.


Silver Lantern is either scum or completely delusional. I am town. And that's all you're getting from me. It should be all you need if you are also town.

[Jerry_Damage01]

FACT: I am not giving you my power or night targets because you are so transparent that it is actually kind of funny.


Silver Lantern is either scum or completely delusional. I am town. And that's all you're getting from me. It should be all you need if you are also town.

As a townie, it's not enough. This is Mafia. I could roleclaim to be Godzilla wearing a King Kong suit, but I wouldn't expect anyone to believe me. And the more I think about it, I'm not entirely sure that I like how you're avoiding answering the question.

Vote Normal

[Silver Lantern]

FACT: I am not giving you my power or night targets because you are so transparent that it is actually kind of funny.


Silver Lantern is either scum or completely delusional. I am town. And that's all you're getting from me. It should be all you need if you are also town.

I love this argument...

Normalview:
"I am town."
"That should be enough for anyone who is town."
"Nevermind that I refuse to share information because I will get busted like the lying scummer I am."
"Did I mention I am town? Scout's honor guys. Townies will automatically know that I am telling the truth right?"

LOLOLOL!!!!!

[normalview]

Enjoy losing, town.

I'm out.

[Jerry_Damage01]

Enjoy losing, town.

I'm out.

You realize you're bringing further heat on yourself by responding this way right?

[Silver Lantern]

If you were truly town, you would realize that it benefits the town more for you to answer and move on to a real threat, then to harp on your stalling. You would also realize that sharing information with the town would be beneficial to help us figure things out.

The only reason you would not claim is that you are not town.

[Jerry_Damage01]

If you were truly town, you would realize that it benefits the town more for you to answer and move on to a real threat, then to harp on your stalling. You would also realize that sharing information with the town would be beneficial to help us figure things out.

The only reason you would not claim is that you are not town.

Agree with Silver on this one. It's scummy to act that way, which is why I'm ok with placing my vote on him.

[Silver Lantern]

The man with yellow eyes was following his target, he was sure that they were evil. But before he could strike, a large beastlike shape came out of nowhere and struck him with its axe. Believing the man dead, it left. But the wheel had not woven him out of the pattern yet, as someone came along, and a chill ran through him.

Almost anything can be healed, short of death.

Noone has died!

With 7 players remaining, 4 is majority.

You have 24 hours.

Lets try to figure this out.

We have a man with yellow eyes (probably town since he believed his target was evil; thus implying he was not evil).

A large beastlike shape with an axe (probably mafia)

A doctor with a chill power that heals.

So clearly we doctored the NK.

THE DOCTOR SHOULD NOT OUT HIMSELF.

Coyote are you the guy with the yellow eyes?

[coyotejack]

Vote Lynch normal

Yeah, sorry. I've tried to stonewall in the past and it only got me lynched. It's a tactic that doesn't work.

[coyotejack]

Lets try to figure this out.

We have a man with yellow eyes (probably town since he believed his target was evil; thus implying he was not evil).

A large beastlike shape with an axe (probably mafia)

A doctor with a chill power that heals.

So clearly we doctored the NK.

THE DOCTOR SHOULD NOT OUT HIMSELF.

Coyote are you the guy with the yellow eyes?

That sounds like me (yellow eyes). Tried to use my RB and failed. Thankfully someone doctored me because it looks like I was hit.

[coyotejack]

SO thank you to whomever saved my hide.

[Silver Lantern]

Remove vote Don't want the day phase to end prematurely without as many people as possible giving their info and 2 cents.

[Jerry_Damage01]

Still have JackofHearts, Mr. Stranger, and WWWWWombat to check in.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Vote: Normalview

I've seen the "I'm out. Enjoy losing, town" thing from a LOT more mafia players than town ones. It's an appeal to fear. Don't lynch me because you will then lose. I'm going to try to make you fear losing so much that you don't lynch me, despite not having provided a real reason to not lynch me.

[Silver Lantern]

Jack any useful info worth sharing?

[Jerry_Damage01]

Remove Vote for Normal

Since we've still got a few people to hear from, I'm going to take my vote off so we don't lynch him before we hear from everyone. We're at 2/4 right now.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack any useful info worth sharing?

From my night actions you mean? No.

[Silver Lantern]

Jerry are you planning to be around later? If not you should consider leaving your vote with Coyote.

[Jerry_Damage01]

Jerry are you planning to be around later? If not you should consider leaving your vote with Coyote.

I'll be around until 5. Not sure after that. If we haven't done anything by that time, I'll leave my vote with CJ.

[Mr Stranger]

Sorry guys, but I just went through a massive move and we don't have internet yet.
I set up a replacement with Sky in case I can't get back on.
I was told that I didn't submit a night action, even though I'm pretty sure I sent it in.
But whatever.
Leave vote with Coyote

I don't think I'll be able to get on for a while, but I'll try (I'm in a library right now).
I'm trying to let all the mods know what's up in my other games too.

[Mr Stranger]

Sorry guys, but I just went through a massive move and we don't have internet yet.
I set up a replacement with Sky in case I can't get back on.
I was told that I didn't submit a night action, even though I'm pretty sure I sent it in.
But whatever.
Leave vote with Coyote

I don't think I'll be able to get on for a while, but I'll try (I'm in a library right now).
I'm trying to let all the mods know what's up in my other games too.

[Jerry_Damage01]

I'm around to add my vote when need be. I'll hold off for more discussion or if Normal wants to give us some information.

[coyotejack]

I'm around to add my vote when need be. I'll hold off for more discussion or if Normal wants to give us some information.

Yeah, we're at 3. The fact that we've been at three for some time kind of makes me feel good about this since it could have been rushed.

[WWWWombat]

Elyas has yellow eyes. Perrin's turned yellow during the book. I would guess CJ was the nk target. The bestial shape sounds like a trolloc.

As for normalview, as long as he has an uncontested Perrin claim, I will not vote for him. Perrin has to be in this game and he has to be town.

As for my role and actions, I am a Guide. I protect my target from roleblocking and misdirection. My targets have been:

Night 1: normalview
Night 2: veguto (action failed)
Night 3: Mr Stranger

Now you know why I asked CJ what action he tried on normalview. What I find interesting is Silver Lantern's slip of the tongue when he said misdirector instead of roleblocker. As I protect from misdirection as well as roleblocking, I think the scum have a misdirector. I think Silver Lantern is scum and made a Freudian slip.

Vote: Silver Lantern

[Silver Lantern]

Wombat, the fact that you guided players with unknown roles when myself and CJ had claimed (along with Normalview all after N1 whether he's telling the truth or not), indicates that you're lying. Why on earth guide a potential mafia member??!! You wouldn't, you're just simply lying.

My only bit of hesitation in voting for Normal is that he had previously said outside this game that he would not lie in these mafia games. And here he said he was town. Now I believe that being mafia and taking that position of never lying is nearly impossible. So hopefully he's realized this and is just lying. Which could explain why he's refused to post further as perhaps his personality IRL is adverse to lying, which I can understand. What damns him more than anything is his refusal to give additional information and then simply say "fine town, enjoy losing," smacks of either frustration from a failed mafia kill or frustration with having to lie, when he told himself he would not do.

I like Normal and I hope he's not fraustrated with having to lie, it's part and parcel of these games and part of what makes them fun. If he's frustrated about having failed in his mafia's NK, then hey I have been there and can certainly understand that.

Of course his Perrin claim has me a bit worried too as that's supposedly a hero. Then again I wish he would have simply power and target claimed and gotten this all ironed out. But if he is in fact town, his stance is what doomed him. Let me check how much time there is but I won't go to bed without hammering for fear of losing the day.

[Silver Lantern]

Okay it looks like we have the morning until 11:20 am, so I am going to leave this open a bit longer to give Normal one last chance. I will be around, but if someone else wants to hammer, feel free. I would feel better about this if Mr. Stranger, Jack, and Jerry gave me some character names as well. Or if Wombat would, but I suspect he's the last scummer anyway.

[WWWWombat]

I never believed your claim, Silver. I eventually believed CJ but I thought there would be more poweful roles I could guide. Everyone I targeted hinted at a powerful role. normalview dropped a Perrin hint in his first post, veguto said something about possibly being able to gather info, and Mr Stranger hinted at tracker.

[WWWWombat]

I am Loial. I recommend that the others not reveal their names as Silver is rolefishing. He is looking for the doctor. Also, care to explain why you mispelled your character's name in your character claim, Silver?

[Silver Lantern]

Yeah because if I was mafia and knew Normal was town, I wouldn't have already hammered to go to night phase right?

As for my name, I spelled it just how it is spelled in my Role PM, TWICE. I guess you're grasping at straws since that's clearly evidence of being mafia as opposed to say voting to lynch two townies, which I haven't done and you and Normal have...

Gonna give Normal until the morning as I said.

[WWWWombat]

You are holding off on hammering because you still need to look town. You can't reveal yourself as mafia until we are down to 6 players. The reason you didn't vote to lynch Aemon is because you knew he was town (because you are scum) and you wanted to look innocent.

[Jerry_Damage01]

Even if Normal were town, he's being a bad townie by not coming out and giving some information. He's had almost 24 hours to defend himself or at least come back and say something and he hasn't. At this point, I feel ok to lay the hammer down.

Vote Normal

[normalview]

For the record, and I say this in all seriousness, you all suck.


You know I don't lie. Never have and never will. I may not give the whole story, but I never, ever say anything untrue.

So when I tell you I am town and I don't offer any more information, maybe (just maybe) it is because I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO GIVE!


But by all means, follow blindly along with the mafia.

[SkyKushryd]

Vote count:

normalview (4): coyotejack (Mr Stranger), Jackofhearts2005, Jerry_Damage

Silver Lantern (2): normalview, WWWWombat

Majority has been reached!!!

The young man refused to tell the group what he had been doing at night.

They pressured him to tell them, but he had nothing to tell, eventually they had had enough.

normalview is dead, he was Perrin Aybara (Town)

You have 24 hours to submit your actions.

[SkyKushryd]

Rand hadn't slept well in days, however long they had been down here in the darkness. Two of his friends had died, but Egwene was still safe, he swore to himself thet he wouldn't let anything happen to her.

A figure was walking along one of the many bridges in the ways, when a massive beastial shape charged them. Just as it seemed their death was sure, the shape lost its footing and fell pas the figure, into the endless black below.

A Trolloc has died!!

With 6 players remaining, 4 is majority.

You have until 12:30 AM PST Tuesday.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Nice! PGO makes up for a bad lynch.

[Silver Lantern]

I'm going to have words with Normal after this game, because he cannot play that way as town.

Was Trolloc a player??!! Any idea what happened?

So far we have Jerry & Mr. Stranger on every town lynch.

JoH suggests PGO, but I'm not sure why there's no player name given.

Anyone want to admit to being a PGO so the town won't target you? After all the mafia know who you are if they targeted you for a kill. Please confirm if you're the PGO or can explain what happened last night, because if no one is a PGO, then I may have some info, but I don't want to out what I have prematurely and give the mafia a heads up.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Well, looking at the writeup again, it could have been several other things.

Looks like the trolloc goes to make a night kill and then gets killed so I immediately thought "PGO" but now that I really look at it, the trolloc's target seems to think he/she is about to die which would make it seem like someone else killed the beastie.

[Silver Lantern]

That's fine, but who is the Trolloc? Perhaps it's a mafia with a 2nd life, and that's why there's no player name given? Someone out there who's town has to have so info on this.

[WWWWombat]

Interesting. I have nothing to add other than that I guided CJ last night.

[Jerry_Damage01]

I failed in my action last night.

[coyotejack]

I failed in my action last night.

And what did you try to do last night?

[Jerry_Damage01]

And what did you try to do last night?

I'd rather not reveal my power at this time.

[coyotejack]

I'd rather not reveal my power at this time.

Fair enough. And thanks, WWWWombat! I think you helped me confirm something. :)

[Silver Lantern]

Rand hadn't slept well in days, however long they had been down here in the darkness. Two of his friends had died, but Egwene was still safe, he swore to himself thet he wouldn't let anything happen to her.

A figure was walking along one of the many bridges in the ways, when a massive beastial shape charged them. Just as it seemed their death was sure, the shape lost its footing and fell pas the figure, into the endless black below.

A Trolloc has died!!

With 6 players remaining, 4 is majority.

You have until 12:30 AM PST Tuesday.

So no one so far claiming PGO. Only need to hear from Mr. Stranger then and I can share my info; or I can go in a certain pressure direction.

Down to 6 players, so obviously with a bad lynch, we lose another player tonight, and are down to 2 v 2, meaning the mafia will win.

If anyone has anything useful please share, I may full on claim power & targets to try to get some of this ironed out, but we need to ferret out scum if we can. If we cannot, it's almost better for us to go no lynch so the town can at least get majority tomorrow even with a scum kill tonight.

Jerry I know you're hesitant to claim but you've already hinted at that previously so if you are the doctor, I am sure the mafia has considered that. Then again, you have been on every single town lynch, so if you can at least character claim, that may help us iron some of this out. I want to start getting character claims.

Has anyone claimed besides myself and CJ?

Didn't WWWWombat claim too?

I know myself and CJ are town. The write up indicates that Rand and Egwene are here. That means that the other two should be scum. Didn't Wwwombat claim another person? If Rand and Egwene come forward, then we should know who the two remaining scum are. Or even if players say they're one of the two (without revealing which is which), it may in fact help. I am usually not a fan of mass role claiming, but with little to no info out there, we may not have much of a choice.

[Jerry_Damage01]

Anyone have any leads for today? We have to get a good lynch today or we risk losing the game.

[Jerry_Damage01]

I am the DR. I was blocked last night as my action failed so I figure the Mafia realized who I am.

[coyotejack]

I am the DR. I was blocked last night as my action failed so I figure the Mafia realized who I am.

And you targeted me.

[Jerry_Damage01]

And you targeted me.

I did the last 2 nights.

[Silver Lantern]

Just went back and looked, and Wwwwombat claimed Loial, whom is neither Rand nor Egwene. I know I am town. CJ is in the write ups and town. That means that either there's only 1 mafia left (which I doubt cause 2 person mafia seems way too low) or Wwwwombat is lying and he's not Loial. Guide is usually a pretty safe mafia claim too. Mr. Stranger if you're around we need to know if you're a PGO or not.

I'll tell you what, I doubt there's a PGO, because I don't think anyone else has died to a PGO in the write ups previously. For the same reason I don't think there's a Vig. So I think I am starting to see what happened last night, but I just want Mr. Stranger to confirm he's not the PGO.

[Silver Lantern]

Jerry who is your character?

[Jerry_Damage01]

I am Aes Sedai.

[Silver Lantern]

I am Aes Sedai.

Is that the name of your character? Please check your role PM for me (without quoting it of course).

[Silver Lantern]

And Jerry is your character male or female?

[Jerry_Damage01]

Sorry, I got my race instead of my name. I'm Moirane Damodred.

[Silver Lantern]

Sorry, I got my race instead of my name. I'm Moirane Damodred.

Yeah thats why I asked, the Aes apparently are a group or a race. So that means that the two last mafia are between Wwwombat, JoH, and Mr. Stranger.

Have either JoH or Mr. Stranger said anything about themselves??!! :confused::confused::confused:

Vote: JoH Be careful with votes guys, cause the mafia can hammer if we accidentally put two votes on the last townie in the group. So I would say that just let this one vote sit until we get a claim to be safe.

[coyotejack]

Yeah thats why I asked, the Aes apparently are a group or a race. So that means that the two last mafia are between Wwwombat, JoH, and Mr. Stranger.

Have either JoH or Mr. Stranger said anything about themselves??!! :confused::confused::confused:

Vote: JoH Be careful with votes guys, cause the mafia can hammer if we accidentally put two votes on the last townie in the group. So I would say that just let this one vote sit until we get a claim to be safe.

Agreed. I'll hold until they speak (if they speak).

[Silver Lantern]

And to be extra safe, don't leave vote with anyone else if you're going to be active tonight. If you're going to be AFK, then feel free to leave vote with someone but if you have someone's vote, be careful not to use unless you're certain, since the 2 mafia can quickly hammer a vote of 2 for a lynch.

[coyotejack]

I'll be around, so I'm good to go. :)

[Jerry_Damage01]

I can hop on as well once we hear from JOH and Stranger.

[Jackofhearts2005]

On a lynch or lose day, please don't use votes for pressure. Assuming there are two mafia members left, they can jump on a vote if two townies vote for another townie.

Understand that on a lynch or lose day, players will probably all claim and defend themselves without your vote.

I'm Nynaeve al'Meara, spelled correctly and everything.

[Silver Lantern]

What's your power and targets Jack.

And I am not voting for pressure, I have a very good reason to vote for you.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Roleblocker. I deleted all of my pms a few days ago so I could have enough space for my 100 Bullets game but I'm pretty sure I targeted Wombat. I might have gone with Stranger, though. Either of you guys want to confirm my target?

[coyotejack]

So we have Jerry (a Doctor failing but targeting me), a guide that targeted me, and someone who isn't sure whom he RBed (neither target of which he's sure of...yet neither are the doctor)?