News Flash..Xplosion Sucks!!! [Archive]

purposemaker

03/04/2003, 12:30

Has anyone looked through all the characters? There are a couple pretty decent figs, but overall most things SUCK!. They seem like a jumble of powers that the designers haven't combined before & that's all. Of course there will be a couple of folks who will prove themselves, but come on. Talk about useless pieces of plastic, noone even touches E-Ultron. Personally, I can't see using more than 6-7 specific figs from the entire set. How about some new team abilities, or at least some wildcard figs (other than T-master). Maybe I'm wrong, probably not. Who the hell uses the X-men ability anyway. It seems cool, I always have it in big builds , but never seem to use it. This games power is all about E-ultron, Doombots, bat enemy/sin syn abilities, bat team, black cat etc...

Darth Sabre

03/04/2003, 12:34

DUDE! You need a hug or something! LOL j/k

I think that people, in general, will disagree with you.

Personally, i'll hold all comments, until I have figs in hand.

Manchine

03/04/2003, 12:34

News flash exchange Xplosion with purposemaker.

checkeredman

03/04/2003, 12:36

Normally I cannot rationalize a response to such threads, but since Megacon I've done just that...

Maybe I'm wrong, probably not.

Someone thinks much of himself. Humble much?

I hate to echo myself, so I'll paraphrase:

"If you're so #### smart, and (obviously) know more than everyone else (including the game designers) then maybe you should make your own game. Then the rules will be exactly the way YOU want them to be, the figures will be 100% perfect (because your know, Maybe I'm wrong, probably not), and then everyone in the world will love your game because I'm quite certain that no one will complain about the rules because you are, you know....never wrong."

skurge

03/04/2003, 12:39

who put my marvel figures on dc dials?

Thor665

03/04/2003, 12:42

Greetings,

I concede that there aren't many figures out there that will really help the "power builds" out. Of the ones I've seen Con Artits are a maybe, but I expect to see Mystique (stealthed Perplex a la Panther's stealthed Outwit) to see lots of play. There are a few other gems out there; paramedics with cheap support, Destiny as cheapest PCer yet, I rather like the look of that Sauron unique, he could be nasty.

However, need I remind you that every figure hardly (*hardly*) needs to be a powerhouse or help with the building of uber teams? There are pleanty of characters out there that don't/aren't in each and every set. Joker, Solomon Grundy, Hawk and Dove, Fantastic Four (other then Sue), Daredevil, Hulk, SPiderman, ect, ect, ect. So I hardly t hink a set that only adds on a handful of uber game pieces to "SUCK".

Also, I personally *like* to play some of the non uber pieces. Mostly in friendly play with friends, but I've done some things in tourneys with quite a few pieces that are usually not considered tournament worthy. (V Daredevil+E Hulk comes to mind, as does my (only) favorite Wolverine, the Unique version...he always dies, but darnit he buys me time and rips up whoever is killing him! I'm looking *forard* to the Typhoid Mary piece, Taskmaster too. I think fielding a team led by Silver Samurai and consisting of swarms of Ninjas will be a blast!

Thus, I question why you claim the set "SUCKS". There seems to be a fair mix of a) fun characters b) Characters for uber games c) characters no one can quite figure out. Which (or so it seems to me) has been the mix in every set that has come out ths far.

My thoughts,
Thor.

Random

03/04/2003, 12:43

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JayThor

03/04/2003, 12:43

I am so sick of all you people bad-mouthing figures you haven't even played yet. There are no unplayable figures! There are only narrow-minded individuals with no vision on how to play new figures. Quit whining and try to figure out ways to use the new ones, or don't buy them and stick to the old ones you already have.

Phantom

03/04/2003, 12:45

What the heck are people expecting out of this set? Personally, I think it looks pretty great. Possibly a little heavy on the Perplex, but you’ve got the X-Men being fully fleshed out to fix their weaknesses (a cheap phasing flyer? A decent brick in Colossus? And a couple other cheap flyers?), a nice strategy piece in Iron Man, a simply brutal cannon in the Mandarin, and some more fleshing out for Shield and Hydra teams (with Hydra getting the first stealth fig in Marvel with greater than 6 range). A Hydra team is actually viable now that they’re getting some BCF to deal with Invulnerable characters. It would have been nice to see Force Blast brought in for Storm, Iron Man, and Mandarin, but as it is it looks like a pretty solid set that adds decent representations of established heavyweights.

Funky Jett

03/04/2003, 12:47

Originally posted by Manchine
News flash exchange Xplosion with purposemaker.

Priceless!!!

jolt

03/04/2003, 12:50

There's a new Flash in Xplosion? Can someone who went to the con confirm this?

jolt

purposemaker

03/04/2003, 12:53

Please don't misconstrue my meaning. I LOVE playing clix. (I'm enough of a tool to be discussing it here, online) It's just that after frothing for the new set, I feel a bit let down by the rearranged sameness of many of the new characters. It's like they mixed up the powers in new (semi-usefull) ways as opposed to introducing some new things that would make the game more exciting & dynamic for non-novice players. Are there any new powers or teams? Many of the people who I meet at the local centers are getting bored and gradually loosing intrest. If you were in a good sized build (400-700), how many of the new characters would you actually use (assuming you want to win)? I'm not a fan of the firelord teams, but any seasoned player should be able to dispatch them. Are there plans for new superpowers? Does anyone know?

Drashia

03/04/2003, 12:54

if you don't like it... don't buy it, more for others to enjoy.

Good luck in life

shin-goji

03/04/2003, 12:56

Wow, I guess that IC is the only set you need, that and CT. I guess you are just that much better than us. You know what, since you are such a GOD in the Hero-Clix community, I would do well to sell my entire collection and give up the game entirely, so that I don't get in the way of your omnipotent [It's a Secret Wars word, look it up] power and scope. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways.

Nickel97

03/04/2003, 13:13

Based off of what JonL has said, there likely won't be any new powers or teams introduced in marvel or DC. Indy clix will have new teams (with a few of the team abilities being new mechanics).

What this means is that they have to combine the old powers in new and interesting ways to make new figures. I think they did a pretty good job of this.

I'm glad they started "putting marvel figures on DC dials." Marvel characters are cooler, but DC Heroclix is (was) a better game.

The X-men will be totally viable as a team now, especially with dirt cheap (and presumably mutant-friendly) paramedics to give them clicks to share.

And another thing... They did a great job of addressing previous complaints (which I hope doesn't encourage you whiners because you got your way).
Complaint #1: Waahhh where's Iron man?
Answer: Right here with a few of his best villains

Complaint #2: Where are the Defenders? I quit!
Answer: It's not a lot, but here are two more?

Complaint #3: Does wizkids even read the comics? I mean they call a set "Clobberin Time" and it's only got 3 versions of the original FF, plus two alternates and Dr. Doom plus doombots, I mean, seriously, why isn't every figure only from the FF comics?
Answer: Well, This set is very surely weighted in favor of Xmen and X-villains. Sure there are a few non-X people (see complaint/answer #1).

Complaint #4: Daredevil Doesn't have Leap Climb.
Answer: do I need to go further with this...

Complaint #5: well, I can't remember any more right now....

ps. am I allowed to sue HCRealms if I flunk out of grad school due to them enabling my HeroClix addiction? (just kidding of course)

metzgarob

03/04/2003, 13:23

Originally posted by purposemaker
Please don't misconstrue my meaning. I LOVE playing clix. (I'm enough of a tool to be discussing it here, online) It's just that after frothing for the new set, I feel a bit let down by the rearranged sameness of many of the new characters. It's like they mixed up the powers in new (semi-usefull) ways as opposed to introducing some new things that would make the game more exciting & dynamic for non-novice players. Are there any new powers or teams? Many of the people who I meet at the local centers are getting bored and gradually loosing intrest. If you were in a good sized build (400-700), how many of the new characters would you actually use (assuming you want to win)? I'm not a fan of the firelord teams, but any seasoned player should be able to dispatch them. Are there plans for new superpowers? Does anyone know?

ok..
first off hey,
i agree with you and at the same time dont at all

1) i do think they will come out with more powers/abilities with time

2) i dont know y u think that they would introduce "new" powers in a booster at least not on the same level that it sounds like u think they should . . . an argument can be made that they added new powers in CT but they just took them from DC . . . all im saying is that when/if/hopefully they make new starters wich will not only include new powers but maybe even incrrease collectibility

3) in a post here on the realms lead developer Jon L has stated that there currently no new powers to be released but he also said that there will most likely be more eventually (not verbatum)

4) u mentioned how irritating it is that there are new figures but the powers are just new mixes... my counter argument for that is that these powers are all they currently have so mixing them up is the only option they currently have. . . on top of that i do think they should milk the powers in all combos they can before changing them up... also new power combinations lead to new "powers" like when they combined flurry and BCF in CT

did that make any sense...
and then what do i know, i havent even seen xplosion yet... whatever

(added)
yes Jon L also said that the only currently plans for new powers is in indyclix

groovyfunk

03/04/2003, 13:28

"Who the hell uses the X-men ability anyway. It seems cool, I always have it in big builds , but never seem to use it. This games power is all about E-ultron, Doombots, bat enemy/sin syn abilities, bat team, black cat etc..."

I think this set is way cool!!!! All the Uniques kick butt! You just need to think outside the box and rotate your characters more. I always use the X-MEN ability it's even won some games for me when I choose to use an X-MEN ARMY.

I mean if you really think about it, there are some really cool X-MEN Characters you can choose to only be medics for the team. Basically, cheap sacrafice characters who also have really cool abilities to get in or out of danger if need to. You also need to remember medics can not heal team members while in combat UNLESS, you have a TEAM ABILITY LIKE X-MEN Team ability...It really is a cool team ability in my book.

Also, I think this will force people to use more indoor maps than outdoor. You can stick with your ULTRON if that what floats your boat. For the most part, I think X-plosion does make sense especially if you keep close to the comics and I also do agree some characters could have used some added abilities but we have been saying that since Wizkids released the world of Heroclix. Have we stopped playing, no. Have we stop collecting, no. Are we still going to continue in being part of this game, yes.

Last but not least, You know we will see a lot of these characters come out again in different forms with added or more enhance abilities.

PantherPriest

03/04/2003, 13:28

Following suit of other games, I assume that nothing new will be introduced into a small set. Usually there is one big set followed by two little sets and so forth, all major changes and new abilities and concepts are introduced in the big sets. The little sets are corrcetly named expansions.

This set is unique, and best of all it has xmen. I personally would have given both gambit and storm more than one lightning bolt, but this leaves improvement for remy and ororo le's. But besides that this set is what it is, and it is good at what it is.

Black Cat? Doombots? Experienced Ultron? Since when is this game about experienced ultron? This game is about wits and wisdom, about coming in from behind blowing the back walls and dividing your enemys. About flanking and sideswiping strategies and outsmarting the large pieces, about action conservation creative tactics, and succesful effective forces that shock and suprise the opponents, quite literally outwitting and perplexing them. There's a panther on the roof a witch in the street and dragon in the sky, with strategic placement suddenly the game is won by spiderman and a mailbox. Galaxy saved, return home to Wakanda, the panther god reigns supreme; long live the king!

At least that's what MY heroclix game is about, I don't know what game you play.

The game, in other words, is what you make of it.

Logan Myrddin

03/04/2003, 13:30

Okay. Everyone just step back... take a deep breath... count to ten... and beat the living #### out of Purposemaker (Just JOKING! I ABHOR VIOLENCE!) However, though I think this debate is a LITTLE overheated-- you guys REALLY need to calm down and put things into perspective, I mean, it is just one persons opinion. It's not like him saying it says anything about anything but himself-- While this debate IS a bit too... shall we say... ####. Need a thesaurus. Too heated, I will have to disagree with Purposemaker. The figs I've seen so far will have very interesting strategical uses. I DO think they've put in enough perplex to last the REST of the ENTIRE game. But Perplex is a GOOD thing. So everyone just calm down, and then... if you feel like it... THEN you can go for each others throats. 'K?

VooDoo Child

03/04/2003, 13:39

Dude because you lack the vision and originally to see the potentials in the new set doesn’t mean the set sucks. In truth look at it backwards compare Infinity Challenge to ALL the other sets, DC included. IC In my mind is “broken”, a lot of the figures are overpower or underpowered. Magic: The Gather did the same thing, it’s first set “APLHA” was so powerful that later sets feel short. The designers didn’t think everything out, they didn’t have the hindsight that we do now, they didn’t know or even think the game would become what it was today.

You should count yourself luck you have IC figures, because they’ll be like Magic cards. Firetard = Mox, Ulton = Mox, I remember in the hey-day of magic those cards were $100+ FOR A PIECE OF CARDBOARD. And Yes I had some Alpha cards and I may some #### good money on them.

Other things you need to think about is that not every figure can be this incredible powerhouse, There are different types of games to play, not everybody plays 500+ point games all the time. And well if you choose not to play these figures then that’s fine, but I’m sure as soon as someone else post a team that kicks@$$ you’ll be copying their team like you always have.

Can you post some examples of these “rearranged sameness”? And I bet you’ll see you’re wrong.

metzgarob

03/04/2003, 13:41

Originally posted by Logan Myrddin
Okay. Everyone just step back... take a deep breath... count to ten...

ya i think this thread is a little heated... if my original post came off that way i apologise i was just puting out my1/2 cents

PsychoDBoy

03/04/2003, 13:48

I mean, it is just one persons opinion

Reason most people are prolly fightin back against n such is coz they're tired of hearin the same thing..."Xplosions suxorz" a good bit of time before most people can even try the clix out. Sure some things about it are poo, like everyone an their grandmother havin perplex, and...did I miss the Age of Elektra big ol crossover? I caught Age of Apocalypse but with U Elektras stats like that, she MUST have ran things at sum point :p Aside from a few lil things like that (and there's those little things in EVERY set), Xplosion should be good. Some nice new mixes of powers (taxis with willpower & SS, Sauron, Leader with mc/wp) should lead to many new interesting combos to be played out. If you wanna keep playing with your E Ultron, doombots, an Black Cat, by all means, do so. See how long they'll last against a well thought out team combining aspects from this set with previous ones.

Piedra

03/04/2003, 14:17

i haven't seen xplotion dials, but most of figures was the poepl'e figures... those figures that the people want to see... so designer probably don't take all the time of world to arrenged some of the figures, and just make it to make happy the poeple

purposemaker

03/04/2003, 14:22

I apologize for ever speaking ill of Xplosion. Who knew one could be all of those horrible things for having an opinion. I apoligize to Jesus, Hitler, Joey Lawrence, Barney Frank, Jean Grey, Count Chocula, Easter Bunny, Bill Gates, The Jackson 5, Tupac, Biggie, Harry Paritestis, Craven Moorhead, Brooke Sheilds, Typhoid Mary, Average White Band, #### Cheney, people who roll on 20' rims and whoever else was offended.

Thank You.

VooDoo Child

03/04/2003, 14:27

You don’t need to apologize for the Barney Frank or Jackson 5 comments.

WarHULK

03/04/2003, 14:32

Originally posted by shin-goji
omnipotent [It's a Secret Wars word, look it up]

Oh man, now that cracked me up LOL

shin-goji

03/04/2003, 14:38

Seriously! :) Think about it. When was the first time you heard this word? Probably in reference to the Beyonder.

WarHULK

03/04/2003, 14:45

Actually, the first time I heard that word was in Sunday School loooong long ago, but that's an entire story of it's own and many many years of learning through my mistakes since :D

Omnipotent (all powerful), Omnipresent (everywhere at once), Omnicient (all knowing, and poorly spelt)... something like that, hahaha

Man, the crazy stuff you learn as a kid :eek:

Artie Deco

03/04/2003, 14:49

purposemaker,

I see your point (in your original post, anyway ... I don't really know how Barney Frank got involved ...) There are no new powers or team abilities in Xplosion, making it the first set of Heroclix not to offer any new powers or team abilities. That could be a little disappointing.

But I think it is too big of a jump from saying "there are no new powers/abilities in Xplosion" to "Xplosion sucks!"

WizKids goal is not to produce a game solely for tournament play. It is my observation that Heroclix is a game primarily for recreational play ... tournament play seems secondary. For tournament play, you may be right; you may not see more than a handful of new Xplosion figs. But I expect the people who like playing this game primarily for fun (like me) will be playing with the new figures A LOT. When CT came out, I searched all over for an E-Mr. Fantastic, just so I could complete my 300-pt. Fantastic Four team. For some reason I never could pull ol' stretch from all the booster boxes I bought. Now, I never would have taken that team into a tourney, but man, was it fun to play!

Also, you need to know if you're going to be involved with this game over the long haul, do not expect every new set to offer new powers or abilities. It just doesn't happen.

shin-goji

03/04/2003, 14:52

I agree, Artie Deco. WK has said on numerous occasions that either they or Marvel did not want o make LE figures for tournament play. In the end oen of them caved in and came up with tournament settings. They didn't create Hero-Clix with intentions of making a purely tourney game.

Artie Deco

03/04/2003, 14:52

Originally posted by WarHULK
Actually, the first time I heard that word was in Sunday School loooong long ago, but that's an entire story of it's own and many many years of learning through my mistakes since :D

Omnipotent (all powerful), Omnipresent (everywhere at once), Omnicient (all knowing, and poorly spelt)... something like that, hahaha

Man, the crazy stuff you learn as a kid :eek:

It's "omniscient". And as a Christian, I wish you would refrain from posts like this.

shin-goji

03/04/2003, 14:56

What in the world is wrong with Warhulk's response? Nothing I can see.

WarHULK

03/04/2003, 14:58

What? I don't believe I said anything wrong. I didn't say anything bad about Christians or the Christian faith. I am a Christian but I've got issue with Sunday School and flowing blindly everything a pastor tells me without checking it out for myself. Does that make me bad? Sorry then.

Also, wouldn't you agree that those three things are some pretty crazy (I.E. hard to wrap your mind around) ideas to understand as a kid? Hey, maybe it's just me, but those concepts seem pretty hard to grasp as a child.

Now, if you'd please get your monkey off my back I'd rather not get into a whole Theological discussion here. This is neither the appropriate place nor where I would want to have one. Play the clix, talk about the clix, and don't get so overly sensitive about things.

shin-goji

03/04/2003, 15:00

I'm a recovering Christian :) Or so I tell me roomate. He then tels me it's a condition you can't get rid of, sort of lke being born white.

Edit: Scary Scary! This was my 666th post!!!!!!!!!!!

scowlingone

03/04/2003, 15:02

Originally posted by Artie Deco
It's "omniscient". And as a Christian, I wish you would refrain from posts like this.

How could his post possibly be offensive?

jkc

03/04/2003, 15:12

Look, I hate to point this out, but if this game is all about E Ultron, then X-plosion just gave him a new best friend in R Psylocke.

jolt

03/04/2003, 15:24

There's a right way and a wrong way to do everything. Having and stateing your opinions is fine but, when you do it in an inflammatory way, (i.e. Xplosion=Xcrement, or anything with "SUCKS" in the title) you can hardly complain when people respond in a similar manner.

jolt

shin-goji

03/04/2003, 15:26

Next will be "X-losion = X-communication"

skyounkin

03/04/2003, 15:27

I think it is the overload of non essential characters such as the con srtist or the ninjas, c'mon wizkids at least make them useful like having a sheild flyer or some brood troopers and a queen!! That would be cool, and personally having another wolverine is like having another pinky toe, cool to look at but not very practical, there are so many other merry mutants to make, like Bishop he has been a prominent character for the past ten years, where is he? For that matter I could collect heroclix for the rest of my life and go without another spiderman or elektra esp. unique ones. Top ten mutant heroclix I wanna see is
-Havok, Bishop, Aoura, northstar, blink, mimic, Captain Britian, Phoenix (rachel, not jean) angel, and xorn

shin-goji

03/04/2003, 15:31

Oh come ON, man! Don't tell me you haven't wished to do the "Night of a Million Bazillion Ninjas"!

Bishop? Mr. Bland?

Extra pinkie toes are cool to look at? Maybe my expectations for entertainment are too high.

skyounkin

03/04/2003, 15:38

The big thing I remember about bishop is that when Mr. Sinster was assulting the mansion for the millionth time bishop just stood there and shot him in the head, now that was cool!!! And ninjas nowadays are almost a comic relief at best when taking on say some one of wolverine or bishops caliber, but hey it's all good:)

StormMaster

03/04/2003, 15:39

Must we make 5 million threads about the same topic, honestly, why don't you just pick one out of the bunch. Yes yes, I know that anyone can create any topic they want to, but come on, we all know.

And btw, the set is gonna rock, V Mandarin will kick Ultron's blue-ringed dial into oblivion (trust me I like Ultron, but the set is gonna be awesome)

jolt

03/04/2003, 15:39

shin-goji: You got that right! Man, you can never have too many ninjas; they're like jello!

I want an army of ninjas sweeping across the board and every other organization team has to team up and stop them.

jolt

Spidersense

03/04/2003, 15:40

Originally posted by shin-goji
Edit: Scary Scary! This was my 666th post!!!!!!!!!!!

I KNEW it!!

TheChad

03/04/2003, 15:42

It seems to me, that you are a power player, purposemaker. I play the game to have fun and use characters that i like from the comics, not how many wildcards i can shove on one team to make Ultron stronger. Xplosion is gonna rock, and im gonna use mine this Thursday at my game shops game night.

WarHULK

03/04/2003, 16:30

Oh man, there is something funny about fielding "rookie ninjas" though. I mean, it just sounds funny.

I keep thinking about it... some young ninja kid goes out on his first assignment... sees Wolverine chopping through his buddies... then promptly soils himself. Heh heh, good times. :D

Artie Deco

03/04/2003, 17:26

Originally posted by scowlingone

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Originally posted by Artie Deco
It's "omniscient". And as a Christian, I wish you would refrain from posts like this.
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How could his post possibly be offensive?

Okay, I'm going to make this brief, say my piece and then I'll be quiet.

You'll notice I'm not getting emotional here. I just want you all to know that. I have no bad feelings toward anyone who disagrees with my views. I purposefully refrained from saying I was "offended" by WarHULK's comments because I didn't want anyone to think I have been personally harmed -- because I haven't.

But WarHULK is making fun of essential Christian doctrine, that God is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent. He talks about "learning through [his] mistakes" and refers to it as "crazy stuff" he was taught. The implication is that it is a "mistake" to believe in essential Christian doctrine; that anyone who believes that stuff is "crazy". What message does that send to someone who does believe in essential Christian doctrine? A message of respect for that person's belief, or disrespect?

WarHULK

03/04/2003, 18:12

And apparently you didn't read what I meant by "crazy" which I explained in the next post. Did I say I didn't believe them? No? Wow, that's interesting. I didn't say those beliefs were right or wrong, I was commenting on what a huge scope that those ideas are for a child to understand. I'll also call the new Taskmaster figure "crazy" because he's so awesome. Geez, you're really overly sensitive.

scowlingone

03/04/2003, 18:29

Originally posted by Artie Deco
But WarHULK is making fun of essential Christian doctrine, that God is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent. He talks about "learning through [his] mistakes" and refers to it as "crazy stuff" he was taught. The implication is that it is a "mistake" to believe in essential Christian doctrine; that anyone who believes that stuff is "crazy". What message does that send to someone who does believe in essential Christian doctrine? A message of respect for that person's belief, or disrespect?

You have a very vivid imagination. He did nothing of the sort.

Heck, one could argue that your assertion that it is not a mistake to believe in essential Christian doctrine is offensive to all the non-Christians here; you have implied that all the non-Christians are crazy and mistaken.

In my opinion, your post was deliberately offensive. WarHulk's was not, and was merely misread by an oversensitive reader: you.

Artie Deco

03/04/2003, 18:31

Ahh, okay. Sorry, WarHULK, mea culpa. I read too much into your post. Thanks for clarifying. Please accept my sincerest apology for mischaracterizing your comments.

:)

Artie Deco

03/04/2003, 18:36

Originally posted by scowlingone

You have a very vivid imagination. He did nothing of the sort.

Heck, one could argue that your assertion that it is not a mistake to believe in essential Christian doctrine is offensive to all the non-Christians here; you have implied that all the non-Christians are crazy and mistaken.

In my opinion, your post was deliberately offensive. WarHulk's was not, and was merely misread by an oversensitive reader: you.

I made no such assertions you accuse me of. You are welcome to go back and look.

I have just apologized to WarHULK for jumping to conclusions. I admit my error. I apologize if my "over-sensitivity" has offended you, too.

scowlingone

03/04/2003, 18:46

Originally posted by Artie Deco
I made no such assertions you accuse me of. You are welcome to go back and look.

Much respect, but you need to take a course on rhetoric. Many folks don't understand the meaning of what they say. That's OK; it's fixable.

purposemaker

03/04/2003, 19:53

How did a religous debate erupt from saying Xplosion sucks? Jesus H!

thickvic

03/04/2003, 20:19

In my opinion everyone should take a deep breath and realize, and rationally examine the fact that this a game about comic book characters, pure and simple, there is no professional league, no endorsements, no earth shaking consequences of our playing or not playing this game, just chill out and enjoy a game that was meant to be fun and on these boards, the fun is quickly being drained out of it.

Nickel97

03/04/2003, 20:39

Ninjas are the new most essential thing in HeroClix. I'm never going to run a team without at least 5.

Vet Mandarin, Vet Psylocke, old school U elektra, 2 each of the Vet Ninjas and a paramedic.

or

U Elektra Assasin, Vet Psylocke, and the rest vet Ninjas.

it's going to be great.

Also great. 15 Rookie con artists, rookie kingpin and vet thug/knuckles. (far cooler than 9 con artists and U flash). it would be pimptacularly hilarious to have Knuckles shoot for 9 damage at a range of 8, or end Thanos in one gut-punch. My (very sarcastic) sig file could almost come true.

StormMaster

03/04/2003, 20:48

Im dying to field this team:

V Storm
V Wolverine
V Cyclops
V Colossus
U Nightcrawler
U Shadowcat

oh man, I don't even care how many points that will cost, I'm dying to field my favorite X-Roster ever, well one of them anyway. I'm really looking forward to making an all x-women team as well.

Oh man again, I remember someone mentioning Storm and a bunch of con artists that idea is amazing. Have her pulse wave, hitting all of the con artists on your team within 5 squares, clicking them all at once to their perplex clicks. Then, have them insanely beef up any aspect of a character you are working with (11 con artists only costs about 154 pts....thats awesome)

Imagine perplexing Nightcrawler's move to 24, or Storm's dmg to like 11 clicks while the remaining perplex can go to putting her range at 12....oh yes, there are going to be some nasty combos with this set....i cant wait

Oh and Vet Mandarin, I'm praying I get one in a booster, he looks amazing and his dial looks even better.