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ChiRocker

12/01/2010, 14:40

IceHot

12/01/2010, 14:56

Interesting Idea, but it doesnt do much for me.

The problem is you only end up appealing to those that like the Lanterns.

A more likely approach would want to have different levels of appeal.

soxolas

12/01/2010, 15:00

Throw Titano in there and I'm with you!:cool:

EDIT: So, I guess it means I really agree with...
Interesting Idea, but it doesnt do much for me.

The problem is you only end up appealing to those that like the Lanterns.

A more likely approach would want to have different levels of appeal.

Trump

12/01/2010, 15:05

I like it! I'd buy it!

I WANT it!

Suttkus

12/01/2010, 15:53

I don't want full-dial teams, and there's no real evidence that we're getting any... so I'll just stick with my hopes for DC "large" figures.

Mordru, classic
Colossal Boy
Time Trapper
Omega (http://www.comicbookdb.com/graphics/comic_graphics/1/75/41123_20060518170835_large.jpg) (Sue me, it was my first Legion story and I want one, obscure or not)
I suppose I should put something that isn't Legion related here... I guess.
Titano, the ape with Kryptonite vision!
Chemo

I'll hold out for a full colossal for Godzilla. GODZILLA!

exodus147

12/01/2010, 16:19

It's a cool idea but I think we'd have to wait a few sets. Between the Blackest and Brightest Day sets and the Lantern rich DC75th the next sets will need to take a break from the Lantern theme.

Epicman

12/01/2010, 16:19

I'd like to see these as DC "Crisis Sized" charaters:

1. Imperiex
2. Batman/Superman Rocket Robot (from Public Enemies)
3. Chemo
4. Titano
5. Hyperfly Mr. Mind (from 52)
6. Black Lantern Anti-Monitor
7. Brainiac's Skull Ship
8. Colossal Boy

I also really don't think whole teams on one dial is a good idea.

exodus147

12/01/2010, 16:24

Oh and I'll take Imperiex and Imperiex drones in SB's

Edit: beat me too it

mattsolo

12/01/2010, 16:26

No one said the Bat-mobile yet.

anodejaninis

12/01/2010, 16:44

YEAH the BAT Ride,
after so much teasing from prototypes and other sources, I cant believe we are getting more giant Marvel stuff and no Batmobile yet.

Blue Atoll

12/01/2010, 16:47

Suttkus

12/01/2010, 17:04

Well, I do need Computo on that list, complete with dome for holding captured figures! But how DARE you remove Omega!

lancelot

12/01/2010, 17:07

More Lantern-related stuff?

Relegate them to Collector's Sets/Action Packs/25-figure limited edition sets, not as part of a larger set scheme.

I'm personally tapped out on the War of Light after DC's 75th.

Grumpygoat

12/01/2010, 17:11

That is a whole heck of a lot of unexciting. Sentinels and Apocalypse are rather iconic; everyone mentioned here other than Parallax and a couple of others...? Not so much.

Hellboy

12/01/2010, 17:15

ha~!

I just posted a speculation thread about a similar thingy...

I love the idea~!!

Repulsor rage

12/01/2010, 17:18

An inflatable Mogo would rock

Hellboy

12/01/2010, 17:18

man~!!

a central power battery colossal with Guardians all floating around it would be so frigin sweet~!!!!!!!

ChiRocker

12/01/2010, 19:21

I don't know how I personally feel about full teams on 1 dial, but if any team makes sense for it, it is the little blue guys. I would also love this as an event dial.

I am also not asking for this to be in the next DC set, it would just be really cool to get all 7 of them at some point, and seeing as there are 8 figures in the GXM set, I added the Guardians cause I think it would make for a good thematic 8th.

Suttkus

12/01/2010, 21:40

That is a whole heck of a lot of unexciting. Sentinels and Apocalypse are rather iconic; everyone mentioned here other than Parallax and a couple of others...? Not so much.

To whom? Apocalypse isn't remotely iconic to me, I've never read a comic with him in it. Mordru, standing over the world, ready to rain destruction down on anyone who opposes him is quite iconic of the Silver Age.

Fredwood

12/01/2010, 22:06

Lantern thing has been done to death

thebigZZZZZ

12/02/2010, 02:31

oh yes!!! i want to see: Chemo, Colossal Boy, Giganta, Rita Farr, Alloy, Atom Smasher, Validus.....oh...all been done before....oh...oh okay....a new list - sigh - okay...yeah Titano, Imperiex, Infinite Man, Animal-Vegetable-Mineral Man, Mr. Atom, and Green Lantern Construct! :)

JoeGualtieri

12/02/2010, 02:53

That is a whole heck of a lot of unexciting. Sentinels and Apocalypse are rather iconic; everyone mentioned here other than Parallax and a couple of others...? Not so much.

Bull. Apocalpyse went giant-sized for a few pages in one issue of X-Factor. It's stupid to do a colossal of him. If I wanted a Sentinel I'd go buy one of the existing ones, which are a fine a combination of dangerous/easily taken out that is completely appropriate for them. The new ones are likely to be overpowered.

OTOH, Mordu regularly goes giant-sized and is a major villain for two of the top teams in the DCU that aren't the JLA. Computo is a major Legion villain and one of the first villains to kill off a hero (sort of) in the genre. Time Trapper is THE Legion villain and the one piece we have of him/her is a poor representation. Since the last Chemo piece was made, it's had a major role in Infinite Crisis and Suicide Squad: Raise the Flag, so a new, better version is entirely warranted. Titano's a classic Superman villain. Colossal Boy came out needing a remake, since WK wouldn't make a flaying giant at the time. Hyperfly Mr. Mind would be awesome, ditto Brainiac's Skull ship. Those are all far better ideas than 2/3 confirmed colossi for GSX.

Terman8er

12/02/2010, 03:00

1. The REAL DEAL (Mon-El/Superboy skull clapping) VALIDUS!!! Dats waz up yo!!
2. Imperiex Drone
3. Titano
4. Emotional Entity 1 (Parallax, Predator, Ion, etc...)
5. Emotional Entity 2 (Parallax, Predator, Ion, etc...)
6. Computo
7. The Omega Men (Any combination of Tigorr, Broot, Doc, Elu, Ryand'r (Darkfire), Felicity)
8. R.E.B.E.L.S. (Any combination of Vril Dox, Strata, Tribulus, Bounder, Ciji, Wildstar, Amon Hakk, Garv, Adam Strange, Captain Comet, Kanjar Ro, Xylon, Starfire)

anonym0use

12/02/2010, 08:48

How about Kyle Rayner in a giant transparent Mech?

Charlemagne7

12/02/2010, 09:03

8 Superboosters including 7 Giants and 1 "team":

1. The Butcher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GLRedEntity01.jpg)
2. Ophidian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GLOrangeEntity01.jpg)
3. Parallax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GLParallax01.jpg)
4. Ion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GLIon01.jpg)
5. Adara (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GLBlueEntity01.jpg)
6. Proselyte (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GLIndigoEntity01.jpg)
7. The Predator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GLPredator02.jpg)

8. The Guardians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Guardians_by_Igle.jpg)

Each of the Entities could have a Possession type power that supes up the new host with the similar power set while still maintaining the current power set. The Guardians would just be awesome, as they are always seen together anyway.

I would totally want all of these. (In fact, a friend and I have talked about wanting these entities as 'cix for some time now.) However, I would much rather see them in a Watchmen-style collector set instead of super-boosters (since super-boosters would pretty much guarantee that I'd only get a few of them at most.) Unlike certain ducks I could mention I don't have a mansion-sized bin of money so I'd much rather see these as a collector set of 8 large-dial miniatures.

Plus, as much of a huge fan of the entire War of Light storyline, I would have to agree with other posters that this list would not be very fair to non-Lantern fans as the super-boosters of a set.

T. Paul Stiles

12/02/2010, 09:09

I'd be on board.

Charlemagne7

12/02/2010, 09:14

Bull. Apocalpyse went giant-sized for a few pages in one issue of X-Factor. It's stupid to do a colossal of him. If I wanted a Sentinel I'd go buy one of the existing ones, which are a fine a combination of dangerous/easily taken out that is completely appropriate for them. The new ones are likely to be overpowered.

Just to bring up an opposing viewpoint... Apocalypse was always one of my favorite characters in the Marvel Universe (especially after reading the Rise of Apocalypse and the related storylines) and seeing the image of the collossol Apocalypse miniature immediately sold me on the set.

And the few Heroclix-playing friends I have were all extremely excited to be getting Apocalypse and some new Sentinels in the set. One of them also said that the only other character besides those two that he'd want to make it a perfect trifecta would be Holocaust / Nemesis (who, ironically, we just found is going to be in the set.)

And my other top want besides Apocalypse and new Sentinels would be Onslaught, who I'm really, truly hoping is in the set (and that I get him through my booster pulls.)

Thrumble Funk

12/02/2010, 09:30

Is Apocalypse terribly thematic? Nah. Does it make for a badass sculpt? Absolutely.

Hatut Zeraze

12/02/2010, 09:37

Woo-hoo!

Colossals
1. Titano the Super-Ape
2. Computo
3. Brimstone
4. Jimmy Olsen, Turtle Boy
5. Chemo
6. Animal-Vegetable-Mineral Man
7. Trigon

Team
8. The Great Ten

Owlman

12/02/2010, 09:40

I'm a big fan of more Lantern pieces in any set, but this suggestion doesn't do much for me. I agree with some of the other sentiments that Super Boosters should show more variety. I wouldn't be opposed if one super booster had Parallax and/or Ion, but the others... I dunno.

ChiRocker

12/02/2010, 09:41

I would totally want all of these. (In fact, a friend and I have talked about wanting these entities as 'cix for some time now.) However, I would much rather see them in a Watchmen-style collector set instead of super-boosters (since super-boosters would pretty much guarantee that I'd only get a few of them at most.) Unlike certain ducks I could mention I don't have a mansion-sized bin of money so I'd much rather see these as a collector set of 8 large-dial miniatures.

Plus, as much of a huge fan of the entire War of Light storyline, I would have to agree with other posters that this list would not be very fair to non-Lantern fans as the super-boosters of a set.

I would totally dig a collector's set with all 7 of them. The Guardians would be cool too, as would the Black Power Battery with Anti-Monitor's hand reaching out.

Troma99

12/02/2010, 10:16

http://hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=295169

naeblis501

12/02/2010, 13:35

I don't think DC can swing a giant sized set. Most of the suggestions offered so far would make me avoid a set like that

spike1138

12/02/2010, 13:50

My Colossal Superbooster picks:

Amanda Waller and Chemo duo
Batmobile
Titano
Brainiac Skull ship
Jimmy Olsen, Turtle Boy
Parallax
Ion

Team: Omega Men

Crazy Bee

12/02/2010, 17:32

I'm straining my brain to try and come up with 6 characters DC could use for Colossals and I can't come up with anything beyond the more fringe characters already listed.

Wizkids is probably looking for characters with big name recognition to move a set like that. The Lantern Entities could probably work. But speaking as a huge Lantern fan (Blackest Night got me back to buying DC single issues) I think we've gotten more than enough love in the past year from Wizkids.

The New Guardians, Scar, Ganthet, Mongul, Kyle, Guy, John, the White Lanterns, Blackest Night starter, Brightest Day (I consider it part of the larger Lantern based story arcs), The two Hal Duos from BATB, The Black Lanterns (chase or no, I'm happy they got made).

It's time for another team to get some love. I vote for the Legion, they've been missing from the last few DC sets (and all the Marvel sets too). Their fans have really been taking the absence on the chin.

I'd like to see for the next set "Superman Legion" with the set focused heavy on Superman and the Legion
~20 Clix Superman
~20 Clix Legion
~5 Lanterns (Arisa, Kilowog, Lantern Rookies with generic lantern powers and a power that is determined by Corp keyword chosen)
~5 Generation Lost (Booster, Blue, Fire, Max, Rocket Red)
~10 Non theme related (Fan Faves Grab bag)

1 Per Brick Sub Set: Kingdom Come

Darth Sabre

12/02/2010, 17:45

I think this would work well as a collector's set. I like the idea of having some Guardians of Oa on one dial. They are essentially a collective and only a few have broken away and created their own identities. That being said, we'd be looking at an insanely costly figure, with (hopefully) the powers to match.

Of course, the entities would be pretty powerful and expensive too.

JoeGualtieri

12/02/2010, 19:31

Is Apocalypse terribly thematic? Nah. Does it make for a badass sculpt? Absolutely.

Oh, it looks completely awesome and I love Apocalypse (well, the idea of Apocalypse, the execution's never been there), but the idea that the version of 'Pocy from X-Factor #68 is more iconic than Mordu, Computo, Chemo, or any number of the DC suggestions is silly.

ghosta

12/02/2010, 19:37

Sold, sold, sold...

I'd buy it in a heartbeat...

8 Superboosters including 7 Giants and 1 "team":

1. The Butcher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GLRedEntity01.jpg)
2. Ophidian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GLOrangeEntity01.jpg)
3. Parallax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GLParallax01.jpg)
4. Ion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GLIon01.jpg)
5. Adara (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GLBlueEntity01.jpg)
6. Proselyte (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GLIndigoEntity01.jpg)
7. The Predator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GLPredator02.jpg)

8. The Guardians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Guardians_by_Igle.jpg)

Each of the Entities could have a Possession type power that supes up the new host with the similar power set while still maintaining the current power set. The Guardians would just be awesome, as they are always seen together anyway.

michiganj24

12/02/2010, 22:06

Pass mainly due to the fact that outside looking cool we really dont have a clue on what teh others are like my picks would be

Ion
Parallax
Brimstone
Imperiax
Black Lantern Anti Monitor
Fenrus the Burning

Teams
The Appelexians (The Wood King, The Stone God, The Fire Giant, The Crystal Creature, The Mercury Monster, The Glass Man, The Golden Roc) ie teh first group who fought the JLA in their origin
REBELS/LEGION
Vril Dox, Lobo, Starta, Kanja Ro, Adam Strange, Amon Hakk, Tribulus

Surfer13

12/11/2010, 14:40

I think that "The Guardians" are better portrayed by a generic Guardian in a common slot of the set.

But as was said, this is also limiting the appeal of the super boosters. If someone doesn't care about the Lanterns, then they won't care about owning any of these figures.

Besides, what do the various avatars of the spectrum actually do?
They are ultimately emotions. They possess people. So why do I need a ginormous sculpt of a piece that is going to resemble Deadman or Jericho in play?

While it wouldn't work for the Orange lanterns, since there aren't any, I would rather they just give us more Corpsmen.
A Red lantern team, a Sinestro Corps team, a Green lantern team; There are plenty of those characters that remain unmade.

Finding 8 to stick in a super booster for each color shouldn't be hard, and wouldn't require committing all of the super boosters to the same theme to make sense. They could throw a Red Lantern team out all by itself and it would work just fine. :cool:

Grumpygoat

12/11/2010, 16:07

Oh, it looks completely awesome and I love Apocalypse (well, the idea of Apocalypse, the execution's never been there), but the idea that the version of 'Pocy from X-Factor #68 is more iconic than Mordu, Computo, Chemo, or any number of the DC suggestions is silly.

This is ridiculous. Most people don't even know who Mordru, Computo, or Chemo are. Popularity is one factor in iconic status, even if it's not the only factor. Years in existence factors in, too...and Apocalypse has been around for over 20 years.

Mind, Apocalypse as a big, screw-off colossal may not be iconic, but the character certainly is. More so than most of the DC suggestions mentioned here, many of which are little-used, niche villains with little modern age relevance. Mordru's existence is more or less restricted to the JSA and Legion; big, multibook events haven't been planned around the character in the way that they have been for Apocalypse. Apocalypse may only be an X-villain, but that's a substantial portion of the Marvel Universe, in the way that a Gotham villain is still a substantial portion of the DC Universe.

Meanwhile, Computo and Chemo don't even have Mordru's status.

Trigon, the Anti-Monitor, Brainiac's skull ship...things like that at least start approaching good, solid super-booster figures. But even then I'm a bit dubious of the figures.

Iron Man 49

12/11/2010, 16:07

Lemme take a shot at this.

1. Chemo
2. Giganta (Complete with Dwarfstar killing action!)
3. Spectre (Crispus?)
4. New Bat-Sentry
5. Bigby Wolf
6. Neron
7. Shade (geeked out and doing something crazy with shadows)

"What are you going to do, make my shadows darker?"

Richard Swift to evil incarnate. :confused:

lost clicker

12/11/2010, 16:26

Ahh, very interesting idea. I would like to see in a DC super booster:
1. Kingdom Come set
2. Green Lantern Set
3. A Legion of Doom set
4. A Legion of Super Villans set
5. A Legion of Super Heros set
6. Mogo
7. Parallax

Suttkus

12/11/2010, 19:41

This is ridiculous. Most people don't even know who Mordru, Computo, or Chemo are.

Computo, I'll grant you, but Mordru and Chemo are pretty well known.

Popularity is one factor in iconic status, even if it's not the only factor. Years in existence factors in, too...and Apocalypse has been around for over 20 years.

Um.. yeah.

Mordru has been around since 1968. Computo first appeared in 1966. Chemo goes back to 1962. Tell me about years in existence some more, please?

Mordru's existence is more or less restricted to the JSA and Legion; big, multibook events haven't been planned around the character in the way that they have been for Apocalypse.

what, if you don't have a crossover you aren't iconic? I can't begin to count the number of characters that underplays.

Apocalypse may only be an X-villain, but that's a substantial portion of the Marvel Universe, in the way that a Gotham villain is still a substantial portion of the DC Universe.

Mordru has fought the Legion, the JSA, and the JLA. Isn't that a substantial portion of the DCU? Chemo has fought almost everyone at some point or another.

Trigon, the Anti-Monitor, Brainiac's skull ship...things like that at least start approaching good, solid super-booster figures. But even then I'm a bit dubious of the figures.

Really? Trigon pretty much is just a Titans opponent. Brainiac is pretty much just a Superman opponent. You're not doing your argument very well here. The Anti-monitor got one good story and has been a poorly used boogeyman ever since. I'll grant he's pretty iconic, but we already have him in over-sized mode twice.

JRZn32

12/11/2010, 22:15

That Would Be So F***ing Awesome!

mkweaver

12/12/2010, 10:49

Each of the Entities could have a Possession type power that supes up the new host with the similar power set while still maintaining the current power set.

I think you answer your own question here... while I wouldn't mind having little figures of the entities, they don't do anything on their own, they just possess people, most likely a figure on your team, and that could just lead to abuse as folks put entities on figs that theme-wise don't deserve them. For example, lets say Ion gives figs (among other things) ES/D and Quintessance for 175 points, so at 400 points I can put him on KC Green Lantern and have a 23 Defense in hindering while I snipe... bah..

Even worse, if Ion gives those things plus Flight, and gets put on Hulk, who might qualify for the Rage entity (or even Parallax) but not really Ion...

Thanks for reading!

tyroclix

12/12/2010, 11:39

Too specific.

If you are not a huge Lantern fan AND a fan of the mythos, the Superboosters would be a waste.

I know I have no urge to field ANY of those psuedo-colossals.

If you want a DC superbooster, Brimstone, Chemo, Starro, Plastic-Man, Mordru, Spectre, Trigon - these kinds of characters would have broader appeal, I think.

Steelmage2000

12/12/2010, 13:47

1. Skyscrapper Wonder Woman
2. Giganta
3. Black Lantern Anti-Monitor
4. Bat Sentinel
5. Batmobile
6. Wonder Woman's Invisible plane

adam1der

12/12/2010, 14:12

Brimstone
Titano
Imperiex Drone
Sun-Eater
Galactic Golem
Mordru
Chemo

The Guardians or The Controllers

superfriend

12/12/2010, 14:20

I'm surprised so many people are asking for characters that were made as part of the DC Giants set or have been released as giant or colossal figures since then.

Still not sure how this is going to pan out for the XMen set, so I'm kind of wait and see. But I would like to see where this is going before requesting a dozen remakes.

I'd like to see them tackle something truly large, like Solaris the evil sun or Mogo, the Green Lantern who is a planet.

Carabas

12/12/2010, 14:38

I don't want superboosters, Marvel or DC. Never seen a Collosal that wasn't a total waste of points or a supercheesy, nearly unbeatable gamebreaker.

michiganj24

12/12/2010, 16:12

Troma99

12/12/2010, 16:29

Yeah i expect the Marvel ones will be for the Most part Major League Players that we know well from Major Events. Sadly DC has much fewer of them even Imperiax is not that big a name. Mainly this is due to Marvel having many cartoons (especially X-Cartoons) that have exposed many to Apoc, Sentinels and others

Though I Agree that some maybe remakes from Giants I think SOME Of those may be needed but I guess For me:

Imperiex
Brimstone
Giant-Plastic Man
Fernus the Burning
APACHE CHIEF (media exposure right?)

Suttkus

12/12/2010, 22:38

I don't want superboosters, Marvel or DC. Never seen a Collosal that wasn't a total waste of points or a supercheesy, nearly unbeatable gamebreaker.

Well, we've been told these figures are neither :g-giant: nor :g-colossal:, but something new. I'm curious just what it is they've come up with.

red king

12/12/2010, 23:06

I hope they stay away from the "whole team on one dial idea" It could be horrible, or just disastrous..

happyoptimistic88

12/12/2010, 23:40

2 Gun Kid

12/12/2010, 23:43

Haunted Tank!

Geof-Force

12/13/2010, 01:48

I would think the best options for "Super-Booster" colossals/multi-based figs from the DC side would be:

- Krona
- Crispus Allen Spectre (because the LE from Arkham was just lame and inaccurate)
- Sun-Eater
- Kyle Rayner GL with a Mecha-construct
- Superman simulacrum from Final Crisis: Superman Beyond
- Space/Time devourer Mr. Mind from 52

For complete teams:
- Trinity
- The Losers
- Metal Men
- Gray-man and all his Gray-ettes :p
- Forever People (with an Immortal Man single base!)
- Female Furies
- The Bat-Family (Batman, Nightwing, Robin, Bat-girl)

soxolas

12/13/2010, 10:48

I'd be happy to see any of the following, but especially the first six...

1. Titano
2. Plastic Man
3. The Haunted Tank
4. Black Lantern Anti-Monitor
5. Crispus Allen Spectre
6. Colossal Boy
7. Giganta
8. Chemo
9. Imperiex

Hero_guy

12/13/2010, 10:57

Any idea is a horrible idea if it doesn't include the Great 10! We still need 70% of the team! 70%!!!

DrugSex

12/13/2010, 10:57

I want to see a Imperiex in that list.

chrisgo316

12/13/2010, 13:04

They so need to redo Paralax.

The Sleeping Dragon

12/13/2010, 13:31

Why not a DC one million Earth one supes,within the yellow sun.

Could be a nice figure if you scult it like dark phenix/phenix.

I know it's dumb but why not a plastic man,
or an "I'm everywhere" flash.

TH0MAS5

12/23/2010, 20:05

Imperiex

Batman/Superman Rocket Robot (from Public Enemies)

Black Lantern Anti-Monitor

Brainiac's Skull Ship

Mordru

Batmobile

Fernus the Burning

Apache Chief

Parallax

Bat Sentry (giant)

Colossal Boy (with Flight)

Chemo

Validus

elfholme

12/23/2010, 20:45

Would definitely be buying only singles of that set, so I could avoid the super boosters.

I may do the same thing with GSXM, but at least in that case there's only a couple I don't want.

I wouldn't want any of the options on the OP's list. IF we get more lantern stuff, can we get some of the unmade Green Lanterns and Sinestro Corps members, not the big energy beings?

I'm still a little sad that we didn't get Dex-Starr in DC 75th.

I would totally go for Super Boosters with Imperiex, Chemo, Apache Chief, Giganta, and Colossal Boy though...

obidia

12/23/2010, 21:33

Id want

Trigun
Spectre
Bat Sentry
Giganta use old sculpt just make it bigger
Toyman in a giant robot
Sinestro in construct
Kyle in construct a dragon would be nice

teams
squad of superman robots
Birds of Prey
Young Justice
New Gods
The Marvel Family

Zemothesinner

12/24/2010, 03:58

TITANO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Absolutely!

eonchao

12/24/2010, 05:06

Well presuming we got a mainly lantern set for our dc super booster release I'd be quite happy with getting the six of the seven entities and maybe a black lantern and sinestro corps team booster with the remaining entity being the bibtb figure. (put The Butcher, Ophidion, Paralax, Adara, Poselyte and the Predator in the super boosters then Ion as the bibtb). I'd mainly want them if they were done in a similar style to the giant phoenix figure (with the host and a giant translucent version of the entity on one 2x2 dial). I believe only the Butcher has yet to take a host and it probably won't be long before it does.

superfriend

12/24/2010, 16:57

This is hard. Trying to come up with a list that is not just remakes of Giants or Colossal is kind of difficult. We could do normal sized characters inside expanded figures.

Kyle Rayner inside GL construct.
Ion
Big Sur (Flash villain) - :g-giant:
Plastic Man
Fernus the Burning
Blue Beetle Jamies Reyes within Beetle construct
Nekron
Imperiex
Chemo
Superman/Batman Robot
Solaris the evil Tyrant Sun
Mogo!

Grumpygoat

12/24/2010, 17:59

Mordru has been around since 1968. Computo first appeared in 1966. Chemo goes back to 1962. Tell me about years in existence some more, please?

I wasn't saying either haven't been around forever - I was saying that Apocalypse qualifies as a long-term character. What I was saying about Computo, Mordru, and Chemo is that not a one of them is popular in the way that Apocalypse is. They aren't iconic in the slightest, whereas Apocalypse is.

what, if you don't have a crossover you aren't iconic? I can't begin to count the number of characters that underplays.

To a degree? No. No you are not. Mind, you don't always have to be in a crossover event...but characters that aren't should be the primary villains of a superhero. A popular superhero. Mordru isn't the primary villain for anyone, except maybe the Legion...and the Legion don't qualify as popular superheroes (certainly not in the way that the X-Men do).

I'll add that being in cartoons helps, too. But while Chemo may have shown up in the Brave & the Bold, that's recent, while the Legion cartoon isn't memorable at all - if Mordru ever even appeared in it. And Mordru may have appeared in the JLU cartoon, but the episode mostly focused on Booster Gold - who's hardly a popular superhero by any means (albeit a solid B-lister).

Mordru has fought the Legion, the JSA, and the JLA. Isn't that a substantial portion of the DCU? Chemo has fought almost everyone at some point or another.

In minor, forgettable stories. Well, I suppose Mordru's a bit memorable for the JSA. Chemo cropped up in Infinite Crisis, or the build-up to it. But it wasn't exactly a starring role for the character.

Really? Trigon pretty much is just a Titans opponent. Brainiac is pretty much just a Superman opponent. You're not doing your argument very well here. The Anti-monitor got one good story and has been a poorly used boogeyman ever since. I'll grant he's pretty iconic, but we already have him in over-sized mode twice.

Trigon is one of the primary villains for one of DC's most popular teams, besides the JLA (and maybe JSA). Brainiac is one of the primary villains for the most iconic superhero in existence. My argument is fine; you just seem to think that minor villains for major teams are somehow equivalent to the major villains for major teams, or that major villains for niche teams are somehow the equivalent of major villains for major teams.

And the fact is, they're not. Chemo, Computo, and Mordru are nowhere near as iconic as Apocalypse (a major villain for a rather large, popular subsection of Marvel - the X-folk).

TheBrothersCarson

12/24/2010, 18:17

Id like it only if there were more teams. Specifically more less prominent lantern corps members. This way lantern fans like myself get what they want and people who dont like lanterns dont have to worry about them taking a slot in the main set roster.

Suttkus

12/24/2010, 21:56

I wasn't saying either haven't been around forever - I was saying that Apocalypse qualifies as a long-term character.

Nobody was saying he wasn't, which makes your statement a bit strange if meant as anything other than an attempt to compare him to the other characters under discussion (under which criteria, he's beat utterly).

What I was saying about Computo, Mordru, and Chemo is that not a one of them is popular in the way that Apocalypse is. They aren't iconic in the slightest, whereas Apocalypse is.

Apocalypse isn't iconic to me in the slightest, as I've never read a comic with him in it. He's just a guy who shows up on covers of comics I skip past while flipping through cheap racks. I have no doubt that he is iconic, to people who have read the comics he's been in. The only thing that's so far been mentioned as coming from the super boosters that I'd call personally iconic would be the sentinels.

I, further, have no doubt that this is a larger number of people than would regard any one DC property as capable of producing Icons. Marvel is more popular than DC. That's a given.

The problem seems to be that your arguments seem to want to have things both ways. You say "Iconic" means more than popular, but then you keep using nothing other than popularity to justify its use.

Mordru is an important part of Legion canon. He was the villain in one of the first multi-issue stories DC ever did. His reveal as the force behind Earthwar was one of the "gotcha" moments that propelled the Legion into popularity in the 80's. The reason he became one of the Legion's main villains is because of his tendency to stick in your brain after you read the story. That, to me, is the definition of "iconic".

Is he ever going to sell as many action figures as Apocalypse? Of course not. But that's not what iconic is about.

To a degree? No. No you are not. Mind, you don't always have to be in a crossover event...but characters that aren't should be the primary villains of a superhero.

What's a "primary villain"? Does that mean Brainiac isn't iconic? Luthor is (probably, I'm not sure how you're defining this) Superman's "primary" villain. Brainiac has never been the subject of a major crossover (Panic in the Skies tried, but it never really got out of the Superman books and was rapidly forgotten.) So, Brainiac isn't iconic?

Mordru isn't the primary villain for anyone, except maybe the Legion...and the Legion don't qualify as popular superheroes (certainly not in the way that the X-Men do).

The Legion doesn't have a primary villain in any sense I can see of the term. As individuals go, Mordru is probably as close as they come (maybe the Time Trapper does better, but that's just because with all the retcons, they tend to use him when they're shaking things up.)

I'll add that being in cartoons helps, too. But while Chemo may have shown up in the Brave & the Bold, that's recent, while the Legion cartoon isn't memorable at all

Can't argue with that. As big a legion fan as I am, I couldn't watch it. Art style hurt brain. Heads too big. Make me grammar bad!

Trigon is one of the primary villains for one of DC's most popular teams, besides the JLA (and maybe JSA). Brainiac is one of the primary villains for the most iconic superhero in existence.

You've switched from "the primary" to "one of the primary". Which is it, singular or cluster? Mordru is absolutely "one of the primary" Legion villains. If you list Legion foes and he isn't in your top three, you're doing it wrong.