Elektra Mind Control?

[VooDoo Child]

Okay I hate to bring this up, but I need to know the answer. U Elektra has Mind Control, and 2 shots, can she do what I think she can do? Mind control 2 people at a time?

If so, OMG. Well that would really helps justify the 160 points.

[Tsannik]

It was ruled that she could MC 2 opposing figures with one MC attack....

It is currently being brough up to the rules people on how exactly this works....so, while the above is true, how the multiple-MC actually works rules wise has yet to have been determined.


Magoon!

[VooDoo Child]

Thanks again to the lord of all Rules

[shin-goji]

I'm predicting it will be a simultaneous action like splash damage from multiple shot and energy explosion. The two mind controlled characters probably will not be able to attack each other.

[gelf13]

Do you think it'll be one attack roll (like multi-attack)or two (like flurry)?

[Funky Jett]

The other problem is in the controlled figures point costs and their potential damage to the controller. Will it be:

1) Will you take damage if both figures added together total over 100 points?

- or -

2) Can you still avoid damage if both figures are 99 points (total of 198 points)?

[melon_head]

It has been ruled that it is the total of the two characters controlled that decide if elecktra takes stress damage from the mind control.

[Funky Jett]

Originally posted by gelf13
Do you think it'll be one attack roll (like multi-attack)or two (like flurry)?

Currently, all figures with 2 lightning bolts make one roll for both targets. I suspect that will be the same here, but I am just guessing.

[Funky Jett]

Originally posted by melon_head
It has been ruled that it is the total of the two characters controlled that decide if elecktra takes stress damage from the mind control.

Where? When? By whom?

[Tsannik]

Correct, one roll for both MC targets...


And it is currently being discussed in the WK Judges forum...

that you'll add the point values of both figures together and then do the 1 click for every 100 points (with both point values of the 2 figures combined)

[Thorgrin]

I'd say it would be per separate figure. I.E. one figure is 150 points and the other is 75, Elektra would only take 1 point from the 150 figure.

Per the PAC, you figure out the damage per figure's ponit value. It's not plural, but possessive, that's what I'm basing my idea on. If not, then they need to errata the FAQ yet again, but per grammatical (because you know the rules lawyers will do it), it would be per figure and not a collective point value.

Is it me, or does Professor X need to be redone now? Considering other viable mind controllers in the game (aka Moondragon), I think he needs to be revamped to have either 2 or 3 arrows (perhaps a vet or unique pro x?)

[Funky Jett]

Originally posted by Tsannik
And it is currently being discussed in the WK Judges forum that you'll add the point values of both figures together and then do the 1 click for every 100 points (with both point values of the 2 figures combined)
So it is still under discussion? Good, I thought I had missed something. MC is my thing.

I suspect it will be ruled like Thorgrin said and here's why:

1) If it goes by the total, the younger kids will need to stop and add DURING a game, thereby slowing it down

2) The rules already say "figure" when referencing Mind Control. I think WK is hesitant to change any rule if they can get around it.

Of course, if they DO rule that way, it makes this Elektra ultra-powerful (and ANY figure soon to come with 2-target MC). She can single-handedly take down a multiple FL team. You think people have been saying FL is borken, 2-Target MC Elektra will be double borken. Personally, I hope they rule it where the controller takes a click if the total of the two figures' points is over 100.

[blank_slate]

I must've of been left out of the loop or something, because
since when did Elektra gain mind controlling abilities in the comics?
Someone PLEASE explain this one to me!:confused:

[XocgX]

That's interesting....could they hit each other......like MC hulk and firelord....have firelord hit the hulk to make him stronger and then beat down firelord.

in most cases tho if one guy tries to hit the other, the 2nd guy would be too weak to effectively hurt the first guy. I would think it best to have guy 1 hit guy 3, guy 2 hit guy 1. somehting like that...

but good idea...

[Marvelmaster11]

Well Blankslate, I think that people can be hypnotized by her gaze, or maybe just her beuty

[JoFo]

It's from the mini-series "Elektra: Assasin", in which she suposedly does have true MCing powers.

[vlouden]

I personally hope the judges leave the rules as is re: MC. So what there can be a double MC. It should be per figure.

You would make one attack roll and see exactly who is MC'd. If both are MC'd then they are part of your army (temporarily) and then you proceed accordingly. I would suppose you start with the lower DV value fig. and in case of a tie (MC'er chooses).

I am personally looking forward to this strategy. Who cares about the 160pts. I just want to MC the taxi and the brick and send them back the other way.....:) SURPRISE!

[melon_head]

Chapeau ruled int he Wizkids judges forum and it was passed down by Herocomplex. Just look for Elecktra:Assain Update in the rules forum over at wizkids.com. Also it is one roll to hit both targets. You choose which order to resolve the actions with the two mind controled characters. But both characters are considered friendly for the length of the MC so they cannot attack each other.

[A_Higher_Level]

Imagine using MC on two people and having one of them taxi the other out to make a strong devastating attack against their own support medic.

OUCH!

[LurkMaster2000]

Originally posted by Tsannik
Correct, one roll for both MC targets...

And it is currently being discussed in the WK Judges forum...

that you'll add the point values of both figures together and then do the 1 click for every 100 points (with both point values of the 2 figures combined)

now let's see if the "they hosed U elektra" posts will outnumber the "U elektra's too powerful" posts....

[Tsannik]

what about the 'Elektra is borken' posts?

[Pip the Troll]

or the elektra is hot threadz
or jen garner is hot threadz

cheers

[Magneticstorm]

I hate to sound negative, but if the truth is negative than so be it. Electra is HUMAN !!! she should not have MC> AND she can now MC two people!!! Prof X or the White Queen ( two very strong telepaths) cannot even perform this feat, yet she can. WHATEVER>>>>I think this is an unrealistic depiction of a character.

[Pip the Troll]

however

if you read some comics

ud find out
that elektra does indeed get mind control

im not a huge fan follower of her, but im sure someone here could fill u in on the details

cheers

[Oldguynewbie]

Originally posted by Magneticstorm
I hate to sound negative, but if the truth is negative than so be it. Electra is HUMAN !!! she should not have MC> AND she can now MC two people!!! Prof X or the White Queen ( two very strong telepaths) cannot even perform this feat, yet she can. WHATEVER>>>>I think this is an unrealistic depiction of a character.

Elektra is BORKEN!

[SLAYER X]

I think it should be like this, if you mind controll 2 people they are both friendly to your team now so they can't attack each other, it will be one roll to take controll but 2 seperate rolls for attcking with each person. As for the amount of clicks she will take it should added together because it is all one attack and because mind controling 2 people is much more stressful on the mind then just one, besides if she could control 2 people and take 1 click or maybe 0 then that makes the down side of mind controll not so bad now.

[Magneticstorm]

Even if she did develope MC later on that still does not justify the magnitue of her MC power.

[gen-x]

I assume this series was Elektra Assassin. She didn't have mind control in the classic sense. Basically it was one guy's infatuation over her.

I think she gets MC with "count'em" 2 clicks because she baffles people with BS. Wizkids hitting the crack pipe again.

[Magneticstorm]

Then wouldn't that be better represented with outwit or Perplex??? Mystique plays mind games and does not have mind control.

[A_Higher_Level]

If only she could perplex her targets up to 3, and Mind Control the LE Superman, Savage Hulk, and Doctor Doom all with the same attack. She'd only receive 5 clix of damage in doing so. Ha!

[gen-x]

Then wouldn't that be better represented with outwit or Perplex??

Yes it would. She must be using her MC on a fan at Wizkid's to keep putting out new versions of herself. 160 points! Who knew ole Elektra packed more power than the Hulk or even Thor. How did Bullseye manage to kill her off anyways?

Also I should have stated two shots not clicks, of which she has three.

[SLAYER X]

Here is my theory on why she gets mind control, if she is pointing a big gun at your head aren't you going to do what she says? and the reson for 2 arrows is she tells you and your freiend you are both going to do this for me. 3 would be pushing it though.

[Pallas Athene]

Originally posted by Thorgrin


Is it me, or does Professor X need to be redone now? Considering other viable mind controllers in the game (aka Moondragon), I think he needs to be revamped to have either 2 or 3 arrows (perhaps a vet or unique pro x?)

I kinda find it 'kooky' that E White Queen kicks more ### then ole Xavier!

I am with you when you say that Proff needs a few more attack arrows, and some higher damage!

[JoFo]

Originally posted by SLAYER X
Here is my theory on why she gets mind control, if she is pointing a big gun at your head aren't you going to do what she says? and the reson for 2 arrows is she tells you and your freiend you are both going to do this for me. 3 would be pushing it though.

Ugh... I just don't get why people keep coming up with these "theories". Whether you like the mini-series or not, the answer is simple, in Elektra: Assasin she has legit mind control powers. It has nothing to do with her ability to manipulate, her beauty nor her big gun.

[SLAYER X]

Look fan boy nobody cares about your special edition hardcover signed by your mommy book. If people want to explor why she would have it let them it isn't a big deal. Relax man it's just a game.

[Dexceus]

Originally posted by SLAYER X
Look fan boy nobody cares about your special edition hardcover signed by your mommy book. If people want to explor why she would have it let them it isn't a big deal. Relax man it's just a game.

Wow. You flame someone and tell them to relax. How.....ironic.

And the thing is, people keep coming up with all of these 'ideas' on why she has MC and the person who designed the clix has already said why she has it. What is the point in spreading rumors contrary to that?

[JoFo]

Originally posted by SLAYER X
Look fan boy nobody cares about your special edition hardcover signed by your mommy book. If people want to explor why she would have it let them it isn't a big deal. Relax man it's just a game.

You're mistaken, my flamy friend. I've never read the book myself. Infact, when the fig was revealed, I was just as shocked as everybody else. However, I've come to understand and cope with the fact that this fig is based on a mini-series in which Elektra can MC. I just don't see why others feel the need to make up other reasons.

[SLAYER X]

I should apologize for attacking you fan boy (joke) that was wrong. Anyway I was just having fun with the fact she has mind control and her figure is holding a really big gun. It was supposed to be funny.

[JoFo]

Oh! Well if it was meant to be a joke, then I'll apologize aswell. I guess I was too tired to catch it.

BTW, I just realized now that you were the person who made the original comment. I thought you were just defending him. :P