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Most:
U Shadowcat
U Deathbird
U Green Goblin
V Mandarin
V Madame Masque
V Paramedic
I know I missed some
Least:
Meltdown and Boom-Boom (I can get EE else where)
R Ironman
Gambit
Mushroomfantas
03/04/2003, 16:45
Most:
Con Artist
VooDoo Child
03/04/2003, 16:50
Don't look at Boom-boom as an EE'er, but as a cheap X-men medic and she's a little more playable. She can run back and forth to give her X-mates a click of healing. Same for Gambit and Iceman.
razz10555
03/04/2003, 16:57
I hate to say it (because I loathe the character) but destiny is one of the best clix I've played with yet
MarkStewart
03/04/2003, 16:58
Don't underestimate Gambit, that energy explosion from stealth with perplex combo he has is pretty good.
Most playable:
U Spidey - 79 points and I get WHAT? Cool.
Any version of Shadowcat - Awesome taxi
Paramedic - Duh.
Hand Ninjas - Cheap BCF.
And the award for best team player goes to:
V Beast - He's a brawler with good stats, charge, toughness and perplex and once he's down the dial he clan leap/climb around and heal people with support. Really useful figure if you ask me.
Billy Jack
03/04/2003, 17:05
unique spiderman and rookie iron man, of course I am just going by stats. The figs will vary depending on the player, for instance Nightmare has great stats, but i can't use him while other players can.
Manchine
03/04/2003, 17:05
Least playable
Leader!!!
Absolute least:
rookie iceman
irweasel
03/04/2003, 17:24
Does anybody know the attack values on the paramedics? I thin the low AV is the biggest weakness of the SHIELD medic.
The U Elektra is going to be nasty. So's basically every version of Mandarin. Doc Samson seems pretty gross too. And I can't wait to use Taskmaster, he looks like a lot of fun. I can't really think of anyone that's necessarily going to suck in this set. Kitty (Shadowcat) doesn't sound that great, but she'll be a good taxi. Same with Iceman. I guess Weapon X's stats are a little disappointing. No affiliation, and low attack numbers. And he has Battle Fury, so you can't carry him around. But he looks so #### cool. Actually, I can't wait for the new set, it looks extremely promising. I can't wait to swarm Daredevil with all my ninja! ^_^
Mongoose
03/04/2003, 17:54
Most playable (Must haves in my case):
Mandarin
Iron Man (Stop whining people, look at powers, damage, and ability).
Abomination (Why use Hulk again?)
Doc Samson
Deathbird (By far most useful fig)
Taskmaster (Just by looking at stats, don't know how he looks)
Apocalypse (Indoor king supreme)
Con Artits
Hand ninjas
Silver Samurai (This guy should be considered essential)
Collossus
Psyloche (This sucks, i'm gonna have to get her if i wanna win, and she is the ugliest fig except for Titania)
Crimson Dynamo
Storm
Useless (Borderline throw away figs)
Scorpion (What were they thinking? A 2 damage bwahahaha. Someone in wizkids has a great sense of humor).
Swat team (Easy pickins. i hope my opponent uses one of them)
Gambit (He couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. I mean the 9 attack is OK, but it falls after the 1st click, and really doesn't represent the rajun cajun).
Unique Shadowcat (She's cool if you like to run away in combat all the time).
All others are OK. I would use Gambit to be honest. Scorpion is a big joke. Spidey could defeat 4 of them by himself.
D'oh, how could I forget Silver Samurai on the most playable list.
Paramedic attack value is 7-8-8 for costs of 8-10-12 for R-E-V. The Expierenced is good, but I'm willing to pay 2 points for the extra click of support on the V
Thunderbolts
03/04/2003, 19:00
Bad figs game-wise (rough guesses thus far):
Swat Officer - base contact incapacitate, joy.
Viper - < Madam Masque
U Shadowcat - normal better
Deathstrike - no innovation, no stats
Weapon X - big let down, poor stats, mediocre powers
Scorpion - ugh
Meltdown - the E version has a use in X-Men teams (clix exchange). the rest are trash.
Too many good ones, but for me, I'm liking Taskmaster, Mandarin, Iron Man, Masque, Shadowcat, Mystique, Destiny, Sauron, and Goblin (once customed anyway).
Most:
Taskmaster - E and V (the must have figures for me)
Mandarin (Iron Man teams are easy pickins')
Abomination
Doc Samson
Least
Any version of Iron Man but the Rookie most of all. When you look at the Avengers powerhouses, why would you play him? Thor or Iron Man? It really isn't that hard of a choice...
Scorpion
ludd_gang
03/04/2003, 21:34
Just looking at stats, V Madam Masque has oodles of synergy with her powers. I could see her using Scorpion to good effect.
Paramedic is huge- no team abilities or damage scores to overcost her. Definitely a boon to armies that don't use a lot of ranged attacks (Shulkie armies come to mind....) or have a slot that would otherwise be relagated to a thug.
E Kitty Pride is an extremely efficient taxi/portable blocking terrain.
Least.... Well, I can ussually find a use for about any fig with few exceptions (*Blob*). Sometimes a fig is truly crippled by synergy issues. However, players also tend to like figs that gear towards the early game and dismiss those that fill mid to late game roles.
Poor blob, really only shines on faction teams where he can have magneto sling him into action. Anyway...xplosion:
Most of the lists so far are pretty good. However I'd like to defend some of the "Leasts" that are appearing.
Leader- Attack value is a bit low, however, an attack of 10 (yeah it means using perplex) is still good. His shining point is that you can use him without taking push damage. A lot of people find incapacitate to be a waste when you have MC, but it's a nice option against bigger pieces that would hurt the MCer. As one sided as it looks, Leader can give Savage Hulk some problems. That big green meanie may never get a turn, his much cheaper cost will allow leader to field a PCer, aim medic, and a taxi if he's up against his AE. If he pulls it off that is 402 pts of radiated goodness!
Iron Man- I have no clue how anyone could think he's useless. Costly? yeah...he's a powerhouse nonethe less though. While I may not play V Ironman over V thor...it's definitely a close call. If I think I am going to be facing bunched groups, that double EE could really come in handy. Likewise if I need a ranged figure more than a close combat fighter I'd also choose Iron Man.
However...if I was looking for an overall powerhouse with no specific role that can take a beating and keep on ticking...Thor wins.
Scorpion- ummm...2 damage is hard to defend. I'll agree with this one being underpowered. As he stands, he is a tie up piece with leap climb...however a Rookie Doc Ock, any Quicksilver, and even V Toad is a better choice for this role.
Viper- underpowered Red Skull...plain and simple. However, she is semi-useful if you need dirt cheap poison (not quite sure why you'd NEED poison though). Or want a poison themed team with skull and masque.
Deathstrike, Weapon X and Typhoid Mary- Boring, low stats, and been done. THese are my least favorite. I will not bother defending them. However, Deathstrike does have a cool sculpt .
Meltdown- E and V are as mentioned great for x-men ability and dirt cheap. R while not as useful...is dirt cheap. She could easily be modded into a jubilee with no dial change needed.
U Kitty- She's a great figure...I still prefer the E most of the time, but I'd take the U over the R or V. The U version can at least help out if she is not needed as a taxi service. The E on the otherhand is 100% pure taxi (well...she can heal with x ability too). If shadowcat's REV were not in the game...U Shadowcat would definitely not be mentioned as a "least". Redunant yes, useless, definitely not.
Gambit- Perplex, cheap perplex (only cheaper perplexer in marvel is Mystique) from the safety of stealth. He will be used on most x-men teams...picture it now: Pheonix escorted by V psylocke, with Beast and Gambit around for moreal support.
SWAT- Every xpansion needs generics. Least they aren't horrible. Their sculpts are good too.
Iceman Rook- 26 pts for a flier with with 6 range barrier...I don't have a problem with that.
I don't see what's so bad about the SWAT Specialists. They're basically the gray area between Snipers and Troopers. Unlike Snipers, they don't crumple in base combat. Unlike Troopers, they can REALLY hurt someone. Heck, they're the only SHIELD team members capable of hurting someone with Invulnerability without needing a boost from a neighbor.
As for least playable -- I'm gonna go with Boom-Boom/Meltdown. For the points, I'd rather take a SHIELD Trooper.
Dalmatio69
03/04/2003, 23:27
Originally posted by Mongoose
Most playable (Must haves in my case):
Useless (Borderline throw away figs)
Unique Shadowcat (She's cool if you like to run away in combat all the time).
Heh, shes like the new best taxi. The only reason anyone would use Wasp over her is the free move. Yea its important for a taxi, but the ability to never have to break and to be able to move through walls is arguably better. Shes the best indoor taxi in the game man!
Batman1983
03/04/2003, 23:45
not the specialists the 0 range incap Swat officer. 23pts for 0 range incap & 8 att (veteran). I want them simply because:
a) I'll repaint some or put some on SWAT Specialist bases for variety.
b) I refuse to complain about this set.
I hope you all think The Leader is bad cause then I don't have to pull him I could get him dirt cheap off ebay (like U Capt. A.). If I pull Spiderman, Hulk, Elektra, or Deathbird I can sell them for a profit. Then use some of that profit to buy The Leader.
Mongoose
03/04/2003, 23:57
The uniques that I really want are Apocalypse and Deathbird. All others are secondary in my mind. I hope I pull those 2 in the 10 booster packs that I bought online.
Nickel97
03/05/2003, 00:18
Excited for:
Taskmaster is a swiss army knife extraordinaire
Psylocke (V) - she approaches U elektra IC for goodness.
-Stealth, BCF 10 attack, 8 range, 2 damage down the dial, enhancement, incap with 8av (which isn't too bad with the DVs in the set) no supersenses, but that's okay.
Mandarin - very cool
Storm, Shadowcat, Beast, Ninja, Silver Samurai, Gambit, Mystique, viper....
not as excited for, for whatever reason (not necessarily game play/stats) (I'm in the minority here I'm sure)
abomination, doc samson, crimson dynamo, scorpion, iron man.
I already talked about the Uniques elsewhere.
Terman8er
03/05/2003, 00:48
Most?
R Conartists...I want at least 6 of them. 66 points to perplex my figs up 6 points of damage? YEAH BABY!!!
Hooker Army at 10 O'Clock!!!!
TDCHeath
03/05/2003, 01:17
I forsee people TKing/Taxi'ing a suicide bomber Boom Boom to take care of those pesky swarms of Con Artists.
(this is meant with a grade of sarcasm, for there are obviously better EE pieces, but I still forsee this :) )
Thanosied
03/05/2003, 03:22
Most played any version of the Paramedic. What where they thinking. Lets go smoke some crack before making these next figs.
Least played probably R Iron Man and R Iceman. Before characters where released I thought they should be 2 of the more playable but I guess a bad decision on my part. LOL
scowlingone
03/05/2003, 03:33
I like to use the Super Strength/Invulnerability combo a lot, and Doc Samson is one of the least expensive models with both.
The V version has one click of Charge, a Damage of 4 and Perplex, making him possibly the most effective first-click Super Strength model in the game.
I plan on using him a lot in place of E She-Hulk, as he's less expensive and has more clicks of Leap/Climb, allowing him to get back to a medic more easily.
Billy Jack
03/05/2003, 03:56
actually i wanna add boom boom to the least playable least.
CaptainCarl
03/05/2003, 04:26
speakin of con artist
i can see alot of characters with multi arrows to split attacks and attack 3 con artists at the same time to get them of their perplex click
a good use for hawkeye =)
as for least playable figs i have to agree with you all
weapon x = disappointment
i was hoping scorpion was goin to be descent but i guessed wrong ill still play him but not in tourneys
as for most played
i do concur taskmaster sound excellent same with kitty and silver samurai
cant wait for explosion
uniques wise goblin and sauron bring on evil it does a body good
thecaptain
Most Used:
Apocalypse
V Mandarin
V Taskmaster
Least Used:
I guess Lady Deathstrike. Don't usually like to call a fig useless before I get to play with it though.
Terman8er
03/05/2003, 10:45
I just want to play a 300 point mixed game with U Flash, 6 R Conartists, V Jean Grey, U Sprial and a R Black Panther.
The Conartists don't need to be close together...a 10 range to perplex.
Flash will decimate anyone with T'challa outitting defenses and dealing out 7 clicks of damage. Or 5 clicks with a 12 AV, etc...
Then Jean dropping Spiral on someone? YIKES!!!
LurkMaster2000
03/05/2003, 11:28
Originally posted by Terman8er
I just want to play a 300 point mixed game with U Flash, 6 R Conartists, V Jean Grey, U Sprial and a R Black Panther.
The Conartists don't need to be close together...a 10 range to perplex.
Flash will decimate anyone with T'challa outitting defenses and dealing out 7 clicks of damage. Or 5 clicks with a 12 AV, etc...
Then Jean dropping Spiral on someone? YIKES!!!
with no leadership or pulse wave, you'll have to wait at least 4 turns to get all your con artists to their perplex click... plenty of time to hurt one or more of your big hitters....
Originally posted by bigbird
Absolute least:
rookie iceman Are we talking about the same game? How is R Iceman not playable? He's got a good range for a 26 pt taxi, barrier, RCE (even if it is with that stupid 0) and X-men team for quick healing in a pinch.
All around a great bargain.
Doctor Strange
03/05/2003, 11:50
The Best..
Experenced Taskmaster
His combo of Stealt and Mastermind insure that you will not be able to outwit his defense. He will be the hub of some great wildcard/synister syndicate/SHIELD teams.
Shadowcat
Uber taxi for sure. The Unique is my most wanted of the set simply because im a fan. Her ranged Energy explosion is a cool suprise attack tho, considering that the X-men have a solid enhancer and a few perplexers running around.
Silver Samurai
He is the assassin, the medic killer. Phase him to the medics and push next turn.
About Gambit. I've seen Mystique praised as a great figure and Gambit listed as the worst. Truth is, Vet Gambit and Mystique have very simular dials.
Overrated figures:
Con Artist: Shes not as impresive as many think. I've always felt that teams relying overly on gimics are already limping.
Elektra: I am a big fan of the figure, and im glad she's been made, truth is tho, she's just too expensive for the roll she'll be playing on most teams. 500 point team? She'll be awesome, but on a 300 she's just... well, not ultron :)
Drop V Jean Grey to R Mandroid armor, save 22 points. Drop from 6 con artists down to 5 to save 11 points. Now you can afford a 32 point avalanche who can pulsewave your 5 con artists to their sweet spots. Avalanche also has barrier at a range of 8, which is really nice. This also gives Spiral a free move. I realize you are going for cheese, so the drop of con artists down to 5 might not be what you are looking for ;)
* note - this is in response to the 300 point team from page 2
the itsy bit
03/05/2003, 17:49
I like Mystique, but when all is said and done 1 Rookie hooker (con Artist) can do exactely what she does for far less points..:rolleyes:
Mystiques Stealth and perplex are good powers to represent her shapechanging, only she could have been so much MORE..
I will field the Rookie version though, but I'm not happy with her !
hamsterstyle
03/05/2003, 18:07
Gambit wasn't as cool as I hoped but im still gonna use him as hes my favourite X-man. His figure rocks too.
Teams can don't have to be just about winning.
Dalmatio69
03/05/2003, 19:05
Originally posted by azs
Are we talking about the same game? How is R Iceman not playable? He's got a good range for a 26 pt taxi, barrier, RCE (even if it is with that stupid 0) and X-men team for quick healing in a pinch.
All around a great bargain.
At the same time hes got horrible stats and dies as quickly as Human Torch. If he gets any use, itll be as a cheap taxi, tho there are much better.
Or maybe the cheapest flyer with barrier, which can have some uses. I wouldnt say hes the least playable, but looking at his stats hes not very good.
rustolla76
03/05/2003, 19:46
We played with some explosion figs last night and I'll say Iron man is great and so was silver samuri he has a lot of potntial and I was playing with the E version. Abomination is a power hose he was kicking serious tail. as far as bad ones I don't know the ones I've seen all look usable. Oh yeah Mandrian even in his R form is hard core.
There were alot of really useless figs in CT, but this one looks alot better!
Figs I'll be using the most:
EV Psylocke
E Taskmaster (Stealthed leadership with a ranged attack!)
U Deathstrike (ok...I'm a fan and I like anyone with stealth and a whole dial of BCF)
V Mystique
U SAURON!!!
V Madame Masque
V Storm
any Shadowcat
The Leader (believe it or not, he's good)
U ELEKTRA!
Gambit (X-men stealth...)
One's I won't use:
Weapon X
Viper
Abomination (She-Hulk is better!)
Doc Samson (She-Hulk is better!)
Iron Man
Hulk (good, but too expensive)
I don't really think any of them are bad, just some will take more skill or strategy to use than others. Some are going to be very easy to use and others won't be.
Also, figs' stats that look low don't make them bad, either. The Leader for example seems to be a great figure for anyone who likes mind control. In CT, Enchantress was the same way, but alot of people play her VERY dangerously.
Terman8er
03/05/2003, 23:53
Originally posted by LurkMaster2000
with no leadership or pulse wave, you'll have to wait at least 4 turns to get all your con artists to their perplex click... plenty of time to hurt one or more of your big hitters....
Depends...after a few turns (I don't HAVE to push my Conartists right away) my Spiral and Nightwing can really lay into people.
But by putting the Perplex on click into thier dials does kinda balance them out.
Imagine an army of Conartists surrounding an Avalanche...suddenly Avalanche is a MONSTER.
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