Barrel of Monkeys [Archive]

WizKidsNECA

12/10/2010, 08:40

Today we’re taking a look at a couple of the Limited Edition figures you’re going to see in the DC 75th Anniversary Organized Play kits next week.# These two figures (of five) will be offered as prizes for events held at your local Venue’s tournaments.
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Typhon

12/10/2010, 09:01

Thrumble Funk

12/10/2010, 09:06

Love 'em both! Grodd especially!

nadja

12/10/2010, 09:09

Another Grodd LE!!!!

ctrosejr

12/10/2010, 09:09

Agreed. These two pieces will definitely motivate me more to win that prize support! Must have Gleek!

lastcastle

12/10/2010, 09:10

Owlman

12/10/2010, 09:14

Haha, Gleek is hilarious! I might ave to get him for my monkey/ape team.

malger

12/10/2010, 09:19

I was hoping for Beast Boy as a gorilla, but Grodd is OK, even if he has been overdone recently, IMHO. I like Gleek.

Munchoboy

12/10/2010, 09:19

love gleek as an le but not sure we needed another grodd so soon when congo bill/congorilla still need representation since they are in the new jla series as regular members now. kind of glad they didn't go with beast boy/gorilla.

We don't really need a BB: Gorilla as the Bear-form really fits that slot well, no?

Congo Bill would have been a nice choice too, but since we have the Gorilla City Warriors in this set, I like the idea of Grodd LE for a few reasons:

1) It's been a couple of years since AA was released, and not everyone has access to the Grodd's from that set;

2) This Grodd is pointed at 40-50 points less than the previous two, and it makes for easier team building with the GCW's.

With the recent announcement that WK is considering re-dialed six packs though, I remain optimistic that we may still get Congo Bill or a BB: Gorilla in the future! :classic:

son of shamrock

12/10/2010, 09:20

GRODD KICKS ALL KIND OF DONKEY!

Also more cost effective than previous incarnations.

Gleek is just hilarious and annoying.

GREAT STUFF!!

JRTasoli

12/10/2010, 09:24

Ehh. These two figures aren't really motivating me to go out and win the prize support. I was really hoping Black Lanterns, honestly, or versions of Hal as different lanterns. I have a feeling that Black Lanterns are over and done with and we kinda just missed the boat unless you pulled a Chase in Brave and the Bold, but a kid can dream? Oh well, there's still 5 more figures in the Prize Kit, and only so many monkeys they can make. =P

darkjacen

12/10/2010, 09:26

Whoa...both are amazing. Grodd, I like very much.

Ultim8 Avenger

12/10/2010, 09:28

wow. unless you play the wondertwins, that trait for gleek just made him....unplayable.

HeroclixFrank

12/10/2010, 09:29

Gleek is wicked! Now the new Trinity is complete (Zan, Jana, and Gleek!)

Grood......been there done that have the t-shirt. Interesting trait, but that's about it. Kind of a waste when there's SO many other characters that need modern versions made, we get one that there's already TWO modern-age versions available. It's Gorilla Grodd, not friggin Batman. Three modern versions is two to many.

Puuka

12/10/2010, 09:29

What makes me sad is that you can't have Gleek, with the Wonder Twins as a theme team.

themonkey

12/10/2010, 09:30

I love the amount of monkeys in the set. It good to know that at least 20% of the prize support is also monkeys. :laugh:

Now we just need Congorilla, and Titano the Super Ape, and Beppo the Super Monkey!

rwint1968

12/10/2010, 09:32

Very interesting...I wonder what else is in that OP kit? We'll find out soon!

:cool:

HerrBrain

12/10/2010, 09:35

I'm liking Grodd, but Gleek (an LE) is pretty cumbersome without the Wonder Twins (a Super Rare), which leads me to think we won't see a lot of him in play.....

ctrosejr

12/10/2010, 09:41

What makes me sad is that you can't have Gleek, with the Wonder Twins as a theme team.

I dunno. Even with his obvious trait downside, he's still a cheap perplexer. He may still see some play without the Wonder Twins.

Thrumble Funk

12/10/2010, 09:43

wow. unless you play the wondertwins, that trait for gleek just made him....unplayable.

Disagree. He's still very playable. An opponent getting one use of free perplex isn't the end of the world.

ctrosejr

12/10/2010, 09:45

It would have been nice if they had made another exception on Gleek's trait for apes/monkeys/animals in addition to the Wonder Twins.

theanalogkid

12/10/2010, 09:51

I'm going to need them both!

origamiman

12/10/2010, 09:53

Gleek’s trait is pretty interesting. He has perplex, but unless you are playing the Wonder Twins, your opponent gets a free perplex too! Grodd’s pretty solid. Unlike his Sinestro Corps yellow power ring wielding counterpart, this one doesn’t quite pack the same punch. But the trait is nice and he’s 40 fewer points, so all in all, a must for any primate team!

mohenjo

12/10/2010, 09:57

I'm liking both of these LE's! Both are cheap in points for what they do.

I am sorry that Gleek doesn't have a common keyword with the WTs. A "Superfriends" keyword would have been appropo.

His trait is going to prevent some play. It doesn't just give your opponent perplex, it lets them modify any character - friendly or not - and doesn't require line of fire. That's better than perplex.

Since they're reusing sculpts, we could still get a Gorilla Beast Boy or a Congorilla/Congo Bill AE piece even if they aren't in this OP kit.

Mon_ami

12/10/2010, 10:00

Gleek will be beyond annoying having that double perplex-lite if no wonder twins are around and all for 21 pts.

I like Grodd, didn't expect him at all, but he is more cost efficient for team building so I wouldn't mind having him, love the double targets too.

Ultim8 Avenger

12/10/2010, 10:07

Disagree. He's still very playable. An opponent getting one use of free perplex isn't the end of the world.

it's not the end of the world, no. but giving your opponent FREE perplex on ANY figure on the board without having to pay for it is a big disadvantage. free perplex = increased hit percentage = difference of winning and losing. that's not a big deal? not sure where you play clix but that is a big deal to most people.

BATCRAZEE

12/10/2010, 10:09

I too am thinking that Gleek would not be a fig to play. I love the abilities and Perplex for 21 pts. But why do I want to help my opponent by giving them a power better than my perplex, plus it has no range. My monkey has to be in LoF. No thanks. I think I may pass.

I do like Grodd.

traitorarmor

12/10/2010, 10:14

Liking the monkeys. Gleek looks like a lot of fun for multiplayer games!

I was really hoping Black Lanterns, honestly, or versions of Hal as different lanterns.

And you're willing to call this as not possible after seeing 2 of the 5 (last I heard) LEs? :noid: Interesting.

I have a feeling that Black Lanterns are over and done with and we kinda just missed the boat unless you pulled a Chase in Brave and the Bold, but a kid can dream?
Well there is a Black Lantern in DC75 (Scar) and WL-Hal playes well with all Lantern Corps/Tribe. So we're still getting them........I suppose that could be it. But Deathstorm is getting some decent face time. I think we'll see more in the future.

Oh well, there's still 5 more figures in the Prize Kit, and only so many monkeys they can make. =P
You heard there 7 LE figs in the OP-Kit?:confused: News to me.

But if you're under the impression that there are 7 LEs and the first two reveals have you with the impression that the LEs you are hoping for won't happen............that seems a bit knee-jerk reaction to me.

As far as I know we've got 3 more LE figs to.........looking forward to the rest of the reveales next week! :classic:

Thrumble Funk

12/10/2010, 10:16

it's not the end of the world, no. but giving your opponent FREE perplex on ANY figure on the board without having to pay for it is a big disadvantage. free perplex = increased hit percentage = difference of winning and losing. that's not a big deal? not sure where you play clix but that is a big deal to most people.

No, one free use of Perplex per turn isn't a big deal in the scheme of the game, as it is offset by me being able to use it on my turn.

Wouldn't necessarily stop me from playing Gleek at any rate.

Milo Garret

12/10/2010, 10:31

What's up with Gleek's character card pic?

Unforgiven88

12/10/2010, 10:43

Me personally, very meh. Though I like Grodd, I too agree there are too many Grodd figures already. And Bleh Wonder Twins go away.

Can't wait to see the next LEs.

lancelot

12/10/2010, 10:46

I'm so taking Gleek off the Wonder Twins base whenever I run Gleek on his own with the Twins.

Let's see if I don't mangle the base too badly doing that...

Iron Man 49

12/10/2010, 10:49

I love how 3 legal Grodds is too many, but a sea of Hal Jordans is fine. :tired:

Oh, will you people stop?

Grodd is awesome.

Thrumble Funk

12/10/2010, 10:59

I love how 3 legal Grodds is too many, but a sea of Hal Jordans is fine. :tired:

Oh, will you people stop?

Grodd is awesome.

Really didn't see any Grodd hate in this thread...:noid:

theemaxx52ad

12/10/2010, 11:01

What makes me sad is that you can't have Gleek, with the Wonder Twins as a theme team.

Yeah, what's up with that? How am I ever going to play a tourney-worthy Super-Friends team at this rate?

kfrog71

12/10/2010, 11:10

Grodd's Leap/Climb is named Prehensile Feet.

Go look that up in your Funk and Wagnalls!

reklawyad

12/10/2010, 11:15

I like them both actually was not a fan of the blunder twins until now. Grodd I'm okay with but would have liked invun on the first click but I will still play all my monkey flinging mammals

songwriterz

12/10/2010, 11:20

Yeah, I went from "Dang! Another DC figure I gotta have!" to "Whew, I can skip Gleek after all" when I read his quirky little trait. If not for that trait, I'd rather have Gleek by himself than as a part of the Wonder Twins duo fig.

Now I don't want either. Which is a bummer cuz I luvs me some Animal themed teams.

Ultim8 Avenger

12/10/2010, 11:27

No, one free use of Perplex per turn isn't a big deal in the scheme of the game, as it is offset by me being able to use it on my turn.

Wouldn't necessarily stop me from playing Gleek at any rate.

are you honestly convinced that there isn't a bit of a disadvantage? are you reading his trait correctly? let's say his trait did not give limitless range of FREE perplex (because that's what it does), you're still paying 21 points for you AND your opponent. where is the logic in that? please enlighten me.

gatharion

12/10/2010, 11:31

No, one free use of Perplex per turn isn't a big deal in the scheme of the game, as it is offset by me being able to use it on my turn.

Wouldn't necessarily stop me from playing Gleek at any rate.

Except that Gleek's Perplex requires LoF and can be outwitted!
Unless you're also playing the Wonder Twins, I would advise against using Gleek.

Ugh, I'm disappointed with these two. That's a pretty sweet Grodd and he is an important villain in the DCU, but I was really hoping that we'd get someone we hadn't seen before. I was actually pulling for the darkhorse gorilla repaint, Tolifar, the white ape who recently palled around with Wonder Woman.
I'd really like a Congorilla, but I'd prefer him as a figure in his own right and not an LE repaint.

As for Gleek, double-ugh. I'm glad that others like him though, as it means he could be trade-fodder.

mohenjo

12/10/2010, 11:32

Now I can play Gleek and Indigo-1 together and really help my opponent win!

Thrumble Funk

12/10/2010, 11:36

are you honestly convinced that there isn't a bit of a disadvantage? are you reading his trait correctly? let's say his trait did not give limitless range of FREE perplex (because that's what it does), you're still paying 21 points for you AND your opponent. where is the logic in that? please enlighten me.

I see the disadvantage, but I don't think that it makes Gleek unplayable.

But, hey, I'm not a min/maxer, and I dig me some unusual dials. Logic doesn't really factor in all that often.

Also, as mentioned in another thread, Gleek's trait could make your opponent want to avoid KOing him, which could be used to one's advantage.

Sorry, I'm just not all that terrified of my opponent getting to use free (enhanced) Perplex. At least not in the games I usually play.

In some kind of major tournament? Eh, probably would go for JJJ, but I usually try to avoid major tournaments.

Thrumble Funk

12/10/2010, 11:38

Except that Gleek's Perplex requires LoF and can be outwitted!

I'm thinking that Gleek wasn't designed for "competitive play," which is fine by me. Not every piece needs to be ludicrously effective. There's room in the game for dials that are just plain ludicrous.

reklawyad

12/10/2010, 11:39

Grodd is not listed as unique either it seems unless I am wrong

Rurouni KJS

12/10/2010, 11:47

Ehh. These two figures aren't really motivating me to go out and win the prize support. I was really hoping Black Lanterns, honestly, or versions of Hal as different lanterns.

Another Hal, in a set with two of him already? After 6 versions of him in the previous 7 DC sets? Enough already!

KNEEL!!!! KNEEL BEFORE GRODD!!!!!

Here's the thing with Gleek: Opponents will be hesitant to KO the free Perplex, making him last way longer as the tie-up nuisance you ought to use him as (instead of the cowardly backfield Perplexer you wish he was) than he has any right to.

SLVRSR4

12/10/2010, 11:57

I'm waiting for the inevitable OMFG Carlos Post on Gleek..........

Sigdr

12/10/2010, 12:00

Gleek seems interesting...I would not have a hard time playing him on Animal teams without the Wonder Twins, the Perplex may go both ways but he's cheap as hell and can function as tie-up.

Grodd, on the other hand...I'm not excited for. After the two Grodds from Arkham Asylum, I don't really feel this one adds anything compelling other than being cheaper. It's the kind of figure I wouldn't mind having one of, but I'm not going to be sad if I end up without one.

IceHot

12/10/2010, 12:03

Gleek sound scool.

Munchoboy

12/10/2010, 12:05

Gleek sound scool.

I'm trying to figure out if you misplaced the "s", or if you're offering to teach everyone how to sound like Gleek (which could offer a tactical advantage against one's opponent). ;)

Either way, I totally agree!!! :classic:

spike1138

12/10/2010, 12:08

Sorry, Wonder Twins. I'll be using Gleek on an Outsiders/Watchmen team...

DrZero

12/10/2010, 12:11

Given his posture, this Gleek is obviously Artie.

Shawnbesaw

12/10/2010, 12:13

profzoom

12/10/2010, 12:25

Too many traits these days methinks

elfholme

12/10/2010, 12:42

What makes me sad is that you can't have Gleek, with the Wonder Twins as a theme team.

Exactly what I was thinking. He's kind of interesting and I'd love to have him, if even just as a display piece. Not sure I'd ever play him though. Would it have killed WK to give Gleek and the Wonder Twins both one of the JLA keywords? He's not worth using without the Wonder Twins, in any case.

Grodd seems pretty cost-effective, but I think I'd rather spend a few more points and get a better one most times. This one FINALLY gives us a decent Grodd to represent his time with the SSoSV though, and for that alone I'll want him!

elfholme

12/10/2010, 12:52

Okay, correct me if I'm wrong here but it is suppose to be DC 75 and there is no Joker, Hawkman or Darkseid? What about Supergirl, new batgirl, Red Robin (Tim Drake)? I don't understand some of these figs (The Atom, Osiris, Mera, Aquaman) that have just been done. So yes I'm hatin’ some of this set and the logic behind it. If Hawkman isn't one of the LE's then something is seriously wrong here, especially after showing the map with Hawkworld.

I don't understand the map choice either, but there's no way to do a Hawkman LE for this set, since there are no models you could repaint for it. Hopefully there will be Thanagarian generics and a Hawkman in the next DC set. And a new Hawkgirl with some decent keywords as well.

Steelmage2000

12/10/2010, 12:54

Their dials:

#101 Grodd
Team: None
Range: 6 :bolt::bolt:
Points: 116
Keywords: Animal, Ruler, Secret Society of Super Villians
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal710173710173610162691626111636101625915259152KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO:star:My Mind is Stronger Grodd ignores damage dealt by Penetrating/Psychic Blast, and can't be the target of Telekinesis option 1. Characters taking actions during the resolution of Mind Control can't target Grodd with an attack.

#102 U Gleek
Team: None
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 21
Keywords: Animal
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal761416513155121KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO:star:W hat's the Monkey Doing Here? I'm So Confused...Unless you control a character named "Wonder Twins", at the beginning of each opponent's turn, that opponent may modify a single combat value of any character by +1 or -1 until the end of that turn.

themonkey

12/10/2010, 12:58

at the beginning of each opponent's turn, that opponent may modify a single combat value of any character by +1 or -1 until the end of that turn.

You definitely don't want to use Gleek in a multiplayer game. Each opponent gets to use his trait against you if you aren't fielding the Wonder Twins.

cartoonist93

12/10/2010, 12:58

Gleek looks like such a dorky monkey...a cool one though.

spider_ham

12/10/2010, 13:03

Gleek FTW!

I had a feeling he was going to be made as an LE. I was hoping for a Taunt-like power for him, but the Perplex trait works, especially if an increase in an opponent's damage value would somehow work against them (U-Foes ATA, Mind Control).

A new Grodd wasn't expected, but he is a nice variation of the character.

lancelot

12/10/2010, 13:37

Ultim8 Avenger

12/10/2010, 14:09

I see the disadvantage, but I don't think that it makes Gleek unplayable.

But, hey, I'm not a min/maxer, and I dig me some unusual dials. Logic doesn't really factor in all that often.

Also, as mentioned in another thread, Gleek's trait could make your opponent want to avoid KOing him, which could be used to one's advantage.

Sorry, I'm just not all that terrified of my opponent getting to use free (enhanced) Perplex. At least not in the games I usually play.

In some kind of major tournament? Eh, probably would go for JJJ, but I usually try to avoid major tournaments.

you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink...:p

Magnetrex

12/10/2010, 14:11

Finally! Heroclix made a space monkey Seacrest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCT3GTfzt6Q

bonkers1978

12/10/2010, 14:15

Let me see how this works. You use Gleek on your team without the Wonder Twins.

You use 21 points for a Perplex. I use 0 point for my Perplex.

You must be within range of 10 and have LoF with Gleek to use your Perplex. I don't need any range and LoF to use my Perplex.

Your Perplex can be outwitted. My Perplex can't be outwitted.

I wish all my opponent play Gleek without the Wonder Twins against me.

Crow

12/10/2010, 14:17

What this really says to me is that in the eyes of WK/NECA, apparently all gorillas look alike. What, Solovar and Grodd aren't distinct enough you gotta reuse one all-purpose gorilla painted up to be one or the other?

It's Gorill-acist.

tyroman

12/10/2010, 14:20

i was hoping we'd see the complete contents of the prize kit. some of us have game schedules to plan.

BranWheatKillah

12/10/2010, 14:29

Disagree. He's still very playable. An opponent getting one use of free perplex isn't the end of the world.

I'll disagree with your disagree. There are no restrictions to how your opponent can use the free perplex. They can target anyone on the map. You are still limited to LOS and 10 squares. Basically, you're paying to let your opponent have perplex. That's never a good investment.

Herrbrane

12/10/2010, 14:37

Okay, correct me if I'm wrong here but it is suppose to be DC 75 and there is no Joker, Hawkman or Darkseid? What about Supergirl, new batgirl, Red Robin (Tim Drake)? I don't understand some of these figs (The Atom, Osiris, Mera, Aquaman) that have just been done. So yes I'm hatin’ some of this set and the logic behind it. If Hawkman isn't one of the LE's then something is seriously wrong here, especially after showing the map with Hawkworld.

I agree with you on everything but the Atom. Because this atom is the original JSA Al Pratt Atom and has never been clixed before.

gatharion

12/10/2010, 14:39

I'm thinking that Gleek wasn't designed for "competitive play," which is fine by me. Not every piece needs to be ludicrously effective. There's room in the game for dials that are just plain ludicrous.

There's "not being competitive" and then there's "being a liability". Sure he's a tie up piece, but not an especially good one. Three clicks of health and 14 def + CR means he can be ignored or picked off at your leisure.

Okay, correct me if I'm wrong here but it is suppose to be DC 75 and there is no Joker, Hawkman or Darkseid? What about Supergirl, new batgirl, Red Robin (Tim Drake)? I don't understand some of these figs (The Atom, Osiris, Mera, Aquaman) that have just been done. So yes I'm hatin’ some of this set and the logic behind it. If Hawkman isn't one of the LE's then something is seriously wrong here, especially after showing the map with Hawkworld.

I loves me the Hawkman, but I don't feel that his inclusion was necessary in the set. Most of the figures you mentioned also have solid (Modern Age even) representations.

I don't understand the map choice either, but there's no way to do a Hawkman LE for this set, since there are no models you could repaint for it. Hopefully there will be Thanagarian generics and a Hawkman in the next DC set. And a new Hawkgirl with some decent keywords as well.

AMEN!!!

Silentscotsman

12/10/2010, 14:53

Well, I don't know what to say about grodd. I'm happy that they made a cheaper grodd so that he's easier to field, and the slightly different keywords are great. I've had a bit of trouble getting all of the various different villains to fit into comic accurate teams. Society, SSoSV, injustice league, injustice gang and so forth. It can be very frustrating so i am glad for another version. though i agree that some other pieces probably deserved a spot (silver banshee? anyone?). good dial either way.

Gleek is a different story. I agree one on one, he would be a terrible piece to field. However, i must disagree that he's a bad choice for multiplayer games. the more people against you the BETTER he becomes. Multiple opponents will likely start using their free perplex against each other not just against you. every time it is used against someone else it's actually helping you. so it is conceivable that the more people your up against the more he benefits you than hinders you.

HeraldOfNova

12/10/2010, 15:16

The more the better. More teammates for THROG!!!!!!!!!!!

ComicJunkie

12/10/2010, 15:22

Don't forget that it has to happen at the beginning of the opponent's turn or not at all.
Much like Outsiders (which I sometimes forget to use), Leadership (we've all forgot one round or two), and Poison (never forget), if your opponent is preoccupied, vengeance filled, or too blood thirsty, they may forget to do it.
I'm not going to remind them...

I think Gleek wins the meta-game. Because your opponent has no desire to KO him, you get to tie up pieces that will now rather break away than attack him!
A 50/50 chance at no damage is better than the stat increase one of his figures will get. In multiplayer he is friends with everyone, and may even get saved by opposing figures.

When worse comes to worse, you can push 3 times or use a telephone booth to kamikaze him. Unless your rounds are very short, 21 points rarely makes a difference. I plan on using him, both with and without the W'Twins.
At least Grodd can be given the Society ATA. That's about the best thing I can say about him, though.

eshuroger

12/10/2010, 15:38

In the hands of a skilled player (more skilled than myself), Gleek may be annoying. I can see that if I were playing against Gleek, I may not be wanting to take him out, because he's helpful to me. There's not a whole lot else keeping his three clicks in the game. In the meantime, Gleek's player can be using him to tie up your ranged pieces, use Perplex against you, and just get in the way. It might be worth 21 points.

Grodd doesn't have a whole lot keeping him alive at 116 points. I already have a playable AA Grodd and his Sinestro Corps LE. This one looks like junk, and should have been a gorilla form for Beast Boy.

songwriterz

12/10/2010, 16:02

I'm going to use my free Gleek Perplex to kill the little liability and tell my opponent "Thank You" afterward.

Beck

12/10/2010, 16:05

I LOVE Gleek

I think the designers did a FANTASTIC job with the dial.

I love that the feat really makes you seriously think about how to make him useful, but the 'negative trait' isn't bad enough to make you deem him absolutely useless. He's also a potent tie-up piece whose trait makes him a VERY undesirable target, especially since, for the the opponent, killing a 21 point figure that gives them FREE PERPLEX; they'll scoff at it and just hope that the monkey tying them up isn't going to bit them in the arse

I think he'd work best on a team that's poised to making the first strike everytime. something like Kid Zoom + Thorbuster. Because if you can land in the first successful shot, your opponents extra perplex may not even matter.

There is definite potential in this figure. I'm glad the designers are dabbling with 'negative traits' and making dials that REALLY make players think (like Deadpool).

UniqueLoginNamor

12/10/2010, 16:23

WTF?

No Beast Boy as Gorilla? Another Grodd?

WTF?

Marshal Law

12/10/2010, 16:47

GRODD KICKS ALL KIND OF DONKEY!

Would that then make it 'Donkey Kong'?

brevard321

12/10/2010, 16:54

Ha, ha! Gleek for the win.

I'm happy to see this, but it does make the Wonder Twins SR a little awkward if there's a Gleek on their base, and then the Gleek LE.

I think this is just a plan to get people to want 2 Wonder Twins SR, one to use normally, and one to modify to use with LE Gleek.

So here's my plan:

1. Acquire Wonder Twins SR
2. Acquire Wonder Twins SR duplicate
3. Modify second Wonder Twins SR taking Gleek off the base
4. Acquire Gleek LE
5. Profit! I mean, finally have scale miniature playable versions of some of my favorite cartoon characters ever. :)

Now all we REALLY need is a Super Friends version of Toyman (and Brainiac with short pants as well)! Make it happen! ;)

The Arachnid

12/10/2010, 17:26

How sad Gleek doesn't have the same keywords as the Twins. Well, at least the Super Friends Fan-boys can shut up now. At least until they realize there's no Marvin and Wendy w/ Wonder Dog.... Sigh. It will go on wont it?

The Arachnid

12/10/2010, 17:27

Oh. I also forgot to add: KNEEL BEFORE GRODD!!!

The Arachnid

12/10/2010, 17:28

Now all we REALLY need is a Super Friends version of Toyman (and Brainiac with short pants as well)! Make it happen! ;)

Solomon Grundy want short pants too!

haymaker

12/10/2010, 17:50

It would have been nice if they had made another exception on Gleek's trait for apes/monkeys/animals in addition to the Wonder Twins.

glad i checked before i posted the same sentence haaa....exac-gleek

MopedKid86

12/10/2010, 18:18

I'm not sure I like this Grodd as much as the AA common one. I feel that was pretty much accurate. This one feels like a waste of a slot, though I can't say that for certain since I don't know what the other 3 LEs are like.

Gleek is awesome. He's irritating as all get out. I'd play one even if I didn't have Wonder Twins! Hopefully I can get one...

m0rpheus

12/10/2010, 18:20

We don't really need a BB: Gorilla as the Bear-form really fits that slot well, no?

Congo Bill would have been a nice choice too, but since we have the Gorilla City Warriors in this set, I like the idea of Grodd LE for a few reasons:

1) It's been a couple of years since AA was released, and not everyone has access to the Grodd's from that set;

2) This Grodd is pointed at 40-50 points less than the previous two, and it makes for easier team building with the GCW's.

With the recent announcement that WK is considering re-dialed six packs though, I remain optimistic that we may still get Congo Bill or a BB: Gorilla in the future! :classic:
We ALWAYS need more Apes. Always.

mhmike

12/10/2010, 19:01

whya re we getting some many STUPID apes monkeys Whatverer. This is HERO XLIC not darn ZOO CLIX or PLAY DOH CRAP this is stupid if i was in the winener's finals of my LCBS tourney i would THROW THE MATCH rather than win these things give me a break NECA

No-Name

12/10/2010, 19:11

Wow, as funny as having Gleek around is, I can't see spending 21 points for that package. 21 points for Perplex that will be immediately targeted and killed right out of the gate. And with the prevalence of 3 damage and range in this game, that's an incredibly easy thing to do.

Or they could just target the Wonder Twins, gang up on and kill them, leaving Gleek alone and giving their team a free Perplex.

Sounds like a lose-lose situation to me.

Top10

12/10/2010, 19:16

What a really smart idea!
Gleeks special power is right on.

I would love to see a few more of the Super Friends but I don't think we will get an El Dorado any time soon.

We could get a LoD Toyman and Brainiac.

Wizkids has done a very creative job with character powers in the last 2 sets. I am all for more comic accurate AND rules that are easy to understand

elfholme

12/10/2010, 19:20

Hellboy

12/10/2010, 19:52

monkeys for the win in this set:

Gleek Grodd Solovar Ape City Warrior Detective chimp and Beast boy!

that's just this set!

ape teams just became a versatile choice~!

Ted_Kord

12/10/2010, 20:35

I like the idea of an LE Gleek, and without the trait I think he would be OK. With the trait, as others have said unless you're playing him alongside the Wonder Twins then he's worse than useless - he actually helps your opponent more than he helps you and costs you 21 points to boot. That said, even though he does benefit your opponent, he doesn't benefit your opponent enough for them to avoid killing him at the cost of allowing him to tie up a crucial piece. If Gleek has one of my primary attackers based so that I can't use him, I'm not going to think twice about killing the space monkey (I'll probably use the free perplex that he gives me to do it).

I don't mind powers and traits that play off of other characters (Like Crisis BB's Perplex/Outwit with Booster Gold, or Carol Ferris's healing ability for Green Lanterns), but those are bonuses for including the ally, which is a lot different than penalties for not including the ally. It makes Gleek very restrictive in terms of what teams he can be effective on.
Sorry, Wonder Twins. I'll be using Gleek on an Outsiders/Watchmen team...
That's an excellent point, however, and definitely makes me want to give him a shot on one of those teams.

All said and done, though, I like a good fun game more than a very competitive match anyways, and I like a space monkey even better, so I can definitely see myself putting him to use just for pure fun.

I like Grodd's dial a lot, but as others have pointed out he's just not necessary with the two AA versions still in Modern Age. All the same, I like him for the reasons mentioned - he packs a punch, isn't necessariliy a copy-paste of previous Grodds, and he's reasonably priced. Still, a gorilla-form for Beast Boy might have been cooler.

(and Brainiac with short pants as well)!

Batman and Robin got 'em!

commandercool

12/10/2010, 20:38

Grodd is awesome. All-gorilla team is going to be pretty potent after this set.

Gleek is even more awesome. What a great idea, both in concept and execution. It's weird that they used a digital sculpt for his picture on the card instead of a picture of the actual figure, but if it prevents stuff like the weird grainy card pictures from Brave and the Bold I like it.

mhmike

12/10/2010, 21:04

I hate Apes

Ultim8 Avenger

12/10/2010, 23:12

although the LEs were not everything everyone expected, they sure are better than the batb LEs.

Hellfire117

12/11/2010, 01:03

Must have Gleek! :)

SLVRSR4

12/11/2010, 01:07

although the LEs were not everything everyone expected, they sure are better than the batb LEs.

Quoted for truth. (Although the dial on Diana was awesome)

UndeadEnigma

12/11/2010, 01:26

LE Fail. To quote the Horse, "No sir, I just don't like it."

Seems like overkill with Grodd. The Arkham one was good, and the Justice LE was a fun piece as well, why do him again? Cause of Solovar? Feh, I guess you really do have to throw away all your semi less than three years old clix.

Gleep. Ok, you already get one with the Wonder Twins sculpt but lets add one by itself. <folds arms> Again, why? I'm just not interested. But, if you going that route then I want Apache, and Samurai. The blue Monkey can hang with the twins.

SLVRSR4

12/11/2010, 01:36

Not everything will please everyone. My wife is practically beside herself with excitement that she gets another Donna Troy and Ice.

michiganj24

12/11/2010, 01:53

First the Atom that has been done and this Atom are in no way connected but by name
One is a super strong fighter from the Golden Age the other is a shrinking scientist
Aquaman and Osiris I will give you
Mera though was a very specific one (Blood spewing Red Lantern) So I have no problems with a classic (and dare I say useful one)
Okay, correct me if I'm wrong here but it is suppose to be DC 75 and there is no Joker, Hawkman or Darkseid? What about Supergirl, new batgirl, Red Robin (Tim Drake)? I don't understand some of these figs (The Atom, Osiris, Mera, Aquaman) that have just been done. So yes I'm hatin’ some of this set and the logic behind it. If Hawkman isn't one of the LE's then something is seriously wrong here, especially after showing the map with Hawkworld.