the ULTIMATE use for clixpoints

[mylo1wagner]

Imagine this.

In the box of heroclix you buy there is a list of all the figures with little boxes, much like the one from IC but updated with all the other expansions. This form also has a little number on it and that number is how many clix points you need to send in to get that figure.

Each one is an LE of that Character!

Imagine an LE T'challa, Victor Von Doom, Tony Stark, Steve Rogers, Ultron Mark7, WHOEVER!

You could get your favorite character!

I would, of course, want Thor Odinson!!!!!

I wouldn't care how many clix points they wanted. I would have to go out and BUY!!!!!

I know it would take a lot of work to make an LE of every figure. But it would be the ULTIMATE use for clix points and make the tournements an absolute must.

So what do you think?

[TheFallenOne]

thats a nice idea. but it wouldnt happen. how about if they just made it possible to send in your clix points for the LE's that they already have. it would be nice to be able to get LE's without having to go to tourneys. since some people dont have any in their area.

[hair10]

Wizkids just need to do SOMETHING with them! Any clix points on xplosion packs?

[My-Evil-Twin]

We have to swim through the heroclix boxes at our apartment and I just want to throw all of these darn boxes away! But like the packrats that we are, we are going to clip every box to get those points. PLEASE do something with the points! :)

[hair10]

Originally posted by My-Evil-Twin
We have to swim through the heroclix boxes at our apartment and I just want to throw all of these darn boxes away! But like the packrats that we are, we are going to clip every box to get those points.

Ummm... why not just cut the points off the bottom of the box and keep them all in one small box?!?!

[JoeyTheButt]

I thought that wizkids already said there was pretty much no chance of them ever doing anything with them. Can't be sure though...

[shin-goji]

I use the clix points to wall paper my room so that they look like the eyes of all the friends I never had...








:)

[mylo1wagner]

Your kidding! they actually said they weren't ever going to do anything with them? I want an LE Thor Odinson for my clix points!!!! Either that or Tony Stark. Or Otto Octavius Phd!

[Melkoloran]

It would be nice to have LE's available through clix points. Even if they were just the LE3/4s.

[DS-00-0, FSD]

Supposedly there has been confirmation that the Xplosion boosters do not have clix points on them. Pretty much a lock that they will never do something with them.:(

[mylo1wagner]

They would just have to adjust the clix points needed for the LE as needed. Like I said, I wouldn't care how many they asked for to get Thor Odinson; I would have to go make it happen.

[hair10]

Originally posted by mylo1wagner
I wouldn't care how many they asked for to get Thor Odinson; I would have to go make it happen.
Yeah, I think a lot of people feel like you. I think Wizkids is missing a prime opprotunity to sell some more product for something that would be relatively cheap for them to produce (molds are already made, boxes are already made, just have to create a new dial and package them up). They could even charge for shipping (send in your points and $2 or something) and people would flock to it.

Even if they didn't make money on it, they would most certainly boost fan loyalty, customer satisfaction, and overall good will towards Wizkids! I would think that alone would be worth it.

[mylo1wagner]

I think it would be easy enough to make an LE of every figure. Just tweak the numbers a bit; give them their secret identity name or make up a name for the generics and VOILA!

And like I said, it would make the tourneys MUCH more interesting; and get geeky collectors like me to HAVE to attend.

Plus I would buy more product to get enough points for my Steven Strange MD or Thanos of Titan. After I get my THor Odinson of course.

[bathawk]

at the Wizkids website, for their DC FAQ they have this to say about clix points

Thanks for asking about Clix Points. We put these on boxes for a promotion we considered, but did not run.


I think I speak for all of us when I say "####"

[mylo1wagner]

I know it probably wont happen (although it would be cool!) But if it did what LE would you want?

[gen-x]

I can't see why they couldn't designate some token LE, new or current, for a large amount of points. Then discontinue them for new expansions. Seems simple enough.

[hair10]

Originally posted by gen-x
I can't see why they couldn't designate some token LE, new or current, for a large amount of points. Then discontinue them for new expansions. Seems simple enough.
Because it doesn't benefit them financially. 'clix is a great game and wizkids is putting out a great product, but when it comes down to it wizkids is a business. And like all businesses, they are there to make money.

[Panther Cult]

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Originally posted by gen-x
I can't see why they couldn't designate some token LE, new or current, for a large amount of points. Then discontinue them for new expansions. Seems simple enough.
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then Hair10 said:
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Because it doesn't benefit them financially. 'clix is a great game and wizkids is putting out a great product, but when it comes down to it wizkids is a business. And like all businesses, they are there to make money.
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- woops, reread the original post, and it looks like he's suggesting WizKids run a promotion for people to redeem all the Clix Points they've already collected and then discontinue the practive. I agree that this would be silly, since WizKids already made the sale and wouldn't make much monye off such a promotion. That being said I still agree with the following:

I think a promotion run with clix points that allowed redemption for LE's could actually make Wiz Kids money.
Imagine if you will a brogram where a Level 3 LE cost 60 Clix Points, a Level 4 cost 80 and a Level 5 cost 100.

That is quite a lot of boxes you have to buy. To get the Level 5 LE you have to have more than a case of boosters to redeem. You don't think people interested in getting the LE's might be inclined to buy more boosters in order to get ahold of an LE they wanted?

I don't know what kind of structure they'd institute, but I certainly don't think it would be a money losing proposition considering the LE's have been produced and this would certainly stimulate some people to buy additional boosters to get more Clix Points.

[mylo1wagner]

Panther Cult knows what I am talking about!

How many boxes would you buy to get a T'challa Panther Cult?

How many boxes would Noriin Raad buy to get Norrin Raad?

There are people who would kill for their favorite character to be made into an LE, let alone be able to send in clix points and $ for shipping and handling to GET IT!

So who would you get? And how many boxes would you buy to get the points to get them?

And when you won a prize at a tourney there would be unlimited possiblilites. It would be the ULTIMATE.

And it wouldnt be too hard to do. It would encourage buying boxes. And reward loyal fans.

[hair10]

I completely agree with both of you. Like I said in my earlier post, the general "good will" that fans would get from such a promotion would do more for wizkids than any advertising campaign. People would know that wizkids is a company that doesn't just make a great product, but a company that actually cares about it's customers as well (I'm not saying that they don't care so don't start arguing about free tourney prizes and all!). But I just don't think it's gonna happen.

[sboy25]

I also concur it would be great and to answer you question about which LE I would buy like a zillion boxes of clix to get and itwould probaly cost that many cuase he is hard to get as a U it would have to be LE kurt Wagner!

Imange Nightcrawler with CCE or B/C/F both viable powers for him I mean he does have fangs and he does fight with 3 yes 3 swords at once if that does not qualify as CCE I do no know what does!

[mylo1wagner]

An LE Kurt Wagner would be SWEEEEET! And not just because he is another Wagner.

So who else would people want???

I know Psylocklover would want.......Ororo Monroe ;)

[ericnelson]

Well, I'd certainly be all OVER a Steve Rogers LE!

But I'll also chime in and say that it's never going to happen, unfortunately. The idea of using them for existing LEs is a more practical one, although I don't think that will ever happen, either.

I would even like to see something as innocuous as just being able to trade in the Clixpoints for single figures to finish your set. I'm sure there would need to be some shipping and handling money included with the points, but I'm sure it could be done. WizKids must just figure that the trouble and costs associated with using them for some kind of mail-in offer isn't offset enough by the possible profits (and monetarily speaking, they're probably right).

Perhaps the success of the InQuest LE figures has rendered the points unnecessary in WizKids' minds. That's too bad, but what can you do? Not like I'm going to stop buying my little plastic pieces of crack just because of that! :D

[Darth Sabre]

Clark Kent or a Kal-el LE would be sweet. Some others:

Bruce Wayne
Peter Parker
En Sabah Nur

[warden]

Clix point redemption for LEs would probably help sales more than giving away LEs for tournaments does. Why?

1. There's a direct link with product sales, unlike tournaments which do not require purchase of product

2. It addresses a wider market, not just the winners who tend to hog the LEs at the moment (I won another LE5 yesterday to add to my large collection - oink, oink.)

3. Tournaments LEs currently have an air of being unfair, due to widespread fraud and shrinkage. Failing to redeem existing clix points will add to this feeling that average joe is being cheated. It's not good for sales if you make customers mad ...

The only argument against that I can think of is that they would probably get trouble with counterfeiting. But they can solve that by limiting the amount that you can redeem - a one per household kinda thing.

Andrew

[mylo1wagner]

They could also charge you for production costs. A usual figure costs about $2 ($8 for a package of four) and I KNOW that people would pay $10 and clix points ($5 for S and H and $5 for production costs) for their favorite character LE.

So it would encourage sales of booster crack AND make money directly!

JonL, can you make it happen???

[ericnelson]

You guys all make valid points, but don't forget that they'd have to pay multiple people just to run all the administrative details of this. And it would open a HUGE can or worms for all sorts of things from complaints ("I didn't get my figure!!!") to fraud.

I just can't see WizKids dedicating 2 or 3 full-time people to administering something like this, even though I would LOVE to be able to use all those worthless little pieces of cardboard I own.

I guess an outside fulfillment house is a possibility, but WizKids would have to pay them and the quality and accuracy (mailing, tracking complaints, etc.) might not be very good...

[ccgtrader_78]

The only problem with all this is due to Wizkids own sucess. Everyone is only thinking of themselves and Heroclix.

This is not the only game Wizkids makes. If they did a clix promotion for Heroclix, then they would have to do one for Mechwarrior, and MageKnight. They both also have clix points on their packaging. Not to mention they would likely have to do a seperate promotion for both Marvel and DC... ya know with them being seperate licences and all.

That would be an giant task for coordination and production for all those extra figures for all three games.

Dont get me wrong. I think it would be great to use the thousand or so clix points I have. But, they have been printing clix points on the bottom of packages for a couple years now, and if they havent done anything with them by now.... they probably wont.

[Oldguynewbie]

Mage Knight has never had clix points on the packaging. I'm not sure about MW, I didn't buy enough to notice.

[StormKnight]

Mage Knight has never had clix points on the packaging. I'm not sure about MW, I didn't buy enough to notice.

The original MW set had clix points - I'm not sure about Fire for Effect.

For many years, the L5R game had points on boosters that could be redeemed for everything from Rare cards to special promo figures to the wargame, to japanses swords. Worked for them!
But Wizkids really doesn't seem to like letting people actually get figures they want, so its a real longshot to assume they would do anything like that.

[firstfederal]

WizKids already does something that loses money...

replacing broken figs.

If they had a redemption program that would let you get any REV figure (no uniques or LE's) for 30 points and $2.00 each for S&H, they might get rid of tons of V Superman and V Dr. Doom. But they would make lots of fans happy and subsidize something that they do that already loses money.

Bill

[jcastick]

MechWarrior: Fire for effect does have Points on the bottom of the boxes......

my two cents...

for someone like me, who is basically a collector and a casual player, I have no access to LE's unless i want to trade for them online Or Buy them........ so i know myself, I wouldn't mind using my Clixpoints for ANY LE...they dont have to make new ones, Id be happy in getting a LE 3,4,or 5 for my Clixpoints........this would be a good promotion for Wizkids i think...

And about having a promo for all their games....the clixpoints themselves all look the same if you cut them along their dotted lines......SO, (except for Mageknight, who was mentioned doesnt have Points).....Wizkids could let you exchange your Points for current LE's or maybe even Uniques for your favorite game.......like was stated, if you wanted to finish a collection, or like me, would only like a certain Mech from Mechwarrior..........

I dunno, just some thoughts.....

[hievolutionary]

power to the people! wizkidz had the idea originally.they should go ahead and follow through.alotta money has been generated off this lil game.if they can pull off the le mail-in offers i.e. beserker wolvie,owaw supes,green lantern,then i'd venture to bet that they could pull off a click point offer.i'll put it in your capable and hopefully willing hands jon l.but i might as well pack up some cardboard cause this's just a pipe dream.
(hievolutionary does not recomend smoking click points as they taste like shht and can lead to harder pulps;) )

[A_Higher_Level]

That might be the only way I can finally get the LE Blastaar of Baluur for under $300 dollars!

[Puuka]

For the DC/Marvel Licensing, they could do a combination, with the Amalgam LE figures, and just use production parts from Existing figures...

I know it will never happen, but we can dream

[capsshield]

like it or not wizkids has run programs where you could get le's for cash. at the chicago comicon i was able to get 1 le for every $25 i spent. they were selling boosters for $5.00 so $25 = 10points. if you figure in a distribution chain they could easily offer an le for 15 -25 points, and they could make them available at tournements and conventions using existing chanels without hiring a special staff. They already have the program for sending product to judges and they already have a presence at shows.
the real problem is le stands for limited edition if anyone can get it is it really limited

[Panther Cult]

Capshield said:
the real problem is le stands for limited edition if anyone can get it is it really limited

I agree, that this in fact is probably the biggest obstacle to having this type of promotion actually happen. They don't want to "water down" the cache of an LE.

first, I'd also like to note that I think that if this thing were to be really viable we'd be talking about existing LE's and not the idea of the original poster for an LE of any character they've previously done.

I think that the promotion could work if we were talking about say 20 clix points for an LE - that's 10 boosters or $50 to $70 in retail sales. And if they ran it as a special, like this month you can get Clay Quartemain, not anyone you chose. That way only people that are interested in that particular fig need apply.

I think the arguments WizKids might have to this sort of promotion would be:

1)additional staffing to meet orders and I certainly can't comment on how big an impact that would have on their operation.

2)angering those good players who regularly obtain the LE's through winning tournaments. If you want an LE to be limited you can't really widely distribute. But they have done mail in promotions for Limited Edition figures already and these are still highly sought after.

My answer to #2 is that there are definitely more Hero Clix customers that don't win LE's in tournaments than there are those who do. If running LE promotions via Clix points caused an increase in overall booster sales for people wanting to get their LE's, then it seems to me the financial benefit should outweigh that of potentially losing sales from those who have the ability to regularly compete in tournaments.

Of course, if WizKids wanted to be particularly cruel they could start a Clix points offer for LE's and require dated cash register receipts since 1/1/03 say and render worthless all of the points we've saved up to date ;)