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Draddog
03/05/2003, 17:57
<TABLE BORDER="0"><TR><TD><IMG SRC="/images/Deathbird.gif"></TD><TD><FONT SIZE="1"><B>Name:</B> Deathbird<BR><B>Number:</B> 087<BR><B>Play Tip:</B><BR> At a mere 70 points, this quick-and-deadly combatant is a veritable hurt machine. From a distance, Running Shot and Ranged Combat Expert give him a perilous set of choices. Up close and personal, use Blades/Claws/Fangs to rake over your opponent.<P><B>Game Design:</B><BR><P>Hey! Another villain! <P>Deathbird’s been a favorite of mine ever since she stabbed Colossus through the chest with one of her “feathers.” Over the years she’s remained pretty much the same in terms of what she can do: fly, cut people with her wings, and launch sharpened feathers. <P>To represent these powers, she has the potent mix of flying, Running Shot, Blades/Claws/Fangs, and Ranged Combat Expert. This combination of powers offers options for ranged combat and a powerful close combat attack with an attack value that should make her a real threat.<P>She’s definitely most powerful in the first two or three clicks of her dial, so take advantage of that. After a few clicks, she loses Running Shot, Ranged Combat Expert, and Blades/Claws/Fangs and gains Incapacitate for a few clicks to reflect her fighting ability or poisons. She’s still a threat later in the dial, but nowhere near as much as at the start. <P>In addition to all of that, she has a number of clicks of Energy Shield/Deflection. She starts with a 17 defense value, which increases to 19 at range, so her aerial acrobatics should help to keep her safe. Her defense drops slowly over the first half of the dial and is still pretty respectable near the end. <P>Overall, she has a good mix of abilities that should allow her to threaten any of the X-Men (or anyone else, for that matter), and make her a popular figure in the game.</TD></TR></TABLE> <P ALIGN="CENTER">See her unoffical stats <A HREF="/cgi-bin/get_unit.cgi?num=xp087">here</A>.

Lance_Alvers
03/05/2003, 17:58
1st post

Badges2
03/05/2003, 17:58
NOOOOOOO!!!!!!

I was robbed by meer seconds. How can it be? I'll will get you Lance_Alvers. I will get you. Bwahahaha!

redherringj
03/05/2003, 17:59
that was interesting, thanks you two.

Flyboy
03/05/2003, 18:00
She should be a really fun character to play! I'm so pumped for xplosion!

falcarrion
03/05/2003, 18:00
yes another sneak peak.
wasn't sure we would see another after all the negativity lately.

Manchine
03/05/2003, 18:00
Deathbird

Magnito
03/05/2003, 18:02
I was really hoping for U Shadowcat, but a better view of the bird is good

verridian
03/05/2003, 18:02
now that is not a good looking sculpt... ick

linus23
03/05/2003, 18:02
i'm down -- thanks for the preview! i was beginning to think we were outta luck today!

Jadehorde
03/05/2003, 18:02
Dang too slow!

I like the figure, though some details could use some work. Interesting range of abilities..I wonder if she'll really fit in though...gonna have to recheck the stats on the warriors section to be sure.

Joe Kerr
03/05/2003, 18:03
I think it's nice they aren't putting up the well known characters like Hulk and so on for the previews now.

Doctor Strange
03/05/2003, 18:05
My Archangel mod has finally found his base. :D

PaladinKWA
03/05/2003, 18:05
Cool! The second most useful unique behind Spiral. Deathbird and Spiral=Firecheese Killas

proditor
03/05/2003, 18:06
Even though I followed the stat line early thanks to the incredibly kind folk who went to Megacon, I can only wonder...

Is this a hopeful harbinger of things to come? Might I someday be able to add the Kree, Shiar (with Imperial Guard of course) to my legion of Marvel clix? Well, I can only hoipe I guess. :)

SqueegeeBob
03/05/2003, 18:09
hey, I can't find the release date for xplosion any where!! what day?

Badges2
03/05/2003, 18:11
I'm pretty sure it's March 26th.

ultimatemark
03/05/2003, 18:11
The countdown has started.....

SqueegeeBob
03/05/2003, 18:11
cool thanx!

redherringj
03/05/2003, 18:12
theres a countdown on the HCREALMS homepage, right? Look there.

TalonMC
03/05/2003, 18:16
Originally posted by Draddog
From a distance, Running Shot and Ranged Combat Expert give him a perilous set of choices.

I didn't know Deathbird was a dude. :p

-MC

daredevil11
03/05/2003, 18:17
Nice sculpt. I'm not crazy about having another flyer with RCE, but in her case, a good three click pop and her offense really is gone - unlike some characters. (LOL) It's a wild mix RCE and Blades, it will be interesting to see in action. In b2b do you take the sure 4 or go for broke and hope for 6, will make for some interesting choices and games. I'd go for the 4 usually, but every once in a while the gambler in me rears its head.

She's definitely a little terror, and I think she's going to chew some people up before they get a glove on her with that high defense, she's got a shallow dial though - a "Ferrari" piece if you will.

I really don't like to judge playability too much until I have the figure and play it in several situations, so I'll just stop there - for now I'd have to say an enthusiastic thumbs up - and again, nice sculpt.

Mr. Pilkington
03/05/2003, 18:21
I'm not that impressed with the sculpt. Something about it doesn't look like the Deathbird that *I* remember... hmmm.

I do agree that those would be cool stats for Archangel.

TalonMC
03/05/2003, 18:21
Originally posted by daredevil11
It's a wild mix RCE and Blades, it will be interesting to see in action. In b2b do you take the sure 4 or go for broke and hope for 6, will make for some interesting choices and games. I'd go for the 4 usually, but every once in a while the gambler in me rears its head.
Yet another reason why flyers should *not* be allowed to make ranged attacks (at *anyone*) while they are adjacent to an opposing figure. Why bother attempting to hit for 5 or 6 with BCF when you're assured to do 4 with RCE?

-MC

Dr Phibes
03/05/2003, 18:21
I'm not familiar with her but her power package looks interesting. At least this view of the figure gives me more hope than the megacon view.

Captain_Comet
03/05/2003, 18:23
HOW DID 24 REPLYS HAPPEN SO FAST???????????

TalonMC
03/05/2003, 18:23
Originally posted by Captain_Comet
HOW DID 24 REPLYS HAPPEN SO FAST???????????
We are quick like ninja.

-MC

redherringj
03/05/2003, 18:25
Well, it's like they said about all those figs with running shot and RCE: "Sometimes characters just have those powers"!!!

You're right though, why gamble and get stuck with a 2?

Badges2
03/05/2003, 18:25
Originally posted by TalonMC

We are quick like ninja.
lol.

No. It is because All Your Base Are Belong To Us.

edit: I wish. I was just 2 seconds off. TWO SECONDS. I will get him. Bwahahaha.

Puuka
03/05/2003, 18:26
RCE vs BCF

I see this as being a piece that will lay on the hurt at range, but your opponent will be learry to get too close to to tie up. But her range is only 8, anything with ten or higher is just going to pick her off

TalonMC
03/05/2003, 18:26
Originally posted by Badges2


lol.

No. It is because All Your Base Are Belong To Us.
And All Your Base-To-Base Figures Belong To Me.

-MC

TalonMC
03/05/2003, 18:28
Originally posted by Puuka
RCE vs BCF

I see this as being a piece that will lay on the hurt at range, but your opponent will be learry to get too close to to tie up. But her range is only 8, anything with ten or higher is just going to pick her off
But she can still use RCE to attack adjacent figures. So she can do 4 with that... *or* she can try for 6 with BCF, but why would you want to risk getting less than 4?

-MC

Nickel97
03/05/2003, 18:28
Originally posted by redherringj
Well, it's like they said about all those figs with running shot and RCE: "Sometimes characters just have those powers"!!!

You're right though, why gamble and get stuck with a 2?

because sometimes your RCE will be outwitted.

redherringj
03/05/2003, 18:29
good call, sweetie.

TalonMC
03/05/2003, 18:29
Originally posted by Nickel97


because sometimes your RCE will be outwitted.
That's gotta be it. BCF is just a back-up power for when RCE is Outwitted. I still don't like having flyers making range attacks on adjacent figures, though. Doesn't make sense to me.

-MC

Noman
03/05/2003, 18:31
For 26 points more than Unique Wasp, I think we may have found the new ultimate taxi.

However - too Blue, should be more silver...easily fixed though.

Yep - bring on the Shi'ar, the Imperial Guard, the Kree etc etc

All the Best

Noman

redherringj
03/05/2003, 18:32
Hey Talon, if you take away a flier's ability to range attack a based opposing fig, then you've just robbed Vet. Hobgoblin of all his worth!

daredevil11
03/05/2003, 18:33
Originally posted by TalonMC

Yet another reason why flyers should *not* be allowed to make ranged attacks (at *anyone*) while they are adjacent to an opposing figure. Why bother attempting to hit for 5 or 6 with BCF when you're assured to do 4 with RCE?

-MC

Well yeah, I'm not a big fan of b2b ranged attacks either, so I agree with you on that. As far as when you'd opt for the blades over the RCE, I don't know - maybe if I was getting my "you know what" handed too me and I needed a big hit to turn the tide, and having a Scarlet Witch around wouldn't hurt. . . then maybe, but all things equal, the four is the no-brainer play you're right.

TalonMC
03/05/2003, 18:34
Originally posted by redherringj
Hey Talon, if you take away a flier's ability to range attack a based opposing fig, then you've just robbed Vet. Hobgoblin of all his worth!
I think Hobgoblin was robbed the moment his figure was officially released. :p

-MC

Badges2
03/05/2003, 18:36
Originally posted by TalonMC

That's gotta be it. BCF is just a back-up power for when RCE is Outwitted. I still don't like having flyers making range attacks on adjacent figures, though. Doesn't make sense to me.

My opinion is no hovering fig should be able to make a b2b rce attack. I also think that a soaring character should be able to shoot in the middle of his/her range. Ex. - JoJo has 8 range. Half of that is 4. Half of that is 2. Therefore a soaring JoJo can shoot between 2 and 6 distance. Kinda long-winded but I think it would be neat. Wait a minute, F-lord would just soar and smoke us all. Nooo!! I take it back. No half-carp. I just want no b2b rce.


edit: I'm sorry that I brought him up. I know it's under 40 post and he was already mentioned. Sorry. :(

TalonMC
03/05/2003, 18:37
Originally posted by daredevil11


Well yeah, I'm not a big fan of b2b ranged attacks either, so I agree with you on that. As far as when you'd opt for the blades over the RCE, I don't know - maybe if I was getting my "you know what" handed too me and I needed a big hit to turn the tide, and having a Scarlet Witch around wouldn't hurt. . . then maybe, but all things equal, the four is the no-brainer play you're right.
Exactly. Allowing a flyer to attack at range in this situation is just like saying they are "breaking away"... *BUT* only far enough so they can get a shot off. Flyers can't automatically break away for movement purposes, and yet they can do this little mini-break away to fire a shot.

(In my best Seinfeld voice) What's the deal with that?

-MC

Thanosied
03/05/2003, 18:37
They should have gave her stats to Iceman and just did a switch-a-roo. What a shame. Oh well I get to look forward to 8-10-12 Paramedic and 70 characters with Perplex LOL. But seriously can we not get a consensus between power and not I mean she is a cheaper version of E Thor. My god would even the whole Imperial guard be able to beat Thor... I doubt it.. But oh well the figure actually looks nice as do most of the figures I have seen so far.

redherringj
03/05/2003, 18:39
You know, I'd love to hear a stand up routine about 'clix. Get on that, someone.

TalonMC
03/05/2003, 18:41
Originally posted by redherringj
You know, I'd love to hear a stand up routine about 'clix. Get on that, someone.
Yeah, lemme do my 20 minute chunk about Object Tokens...

-MC

redherringj
03/05/2003, 18:43
Awesome.

daredevil11
03/05/2003, 18:47
Thanoseid, just go for the old base switcheroo - I think you might be right, those would be some pretty killer stats and powers for Iceman, even the incapacitate could act as temporary freezing or snow storm or something.

You know fellas, what gets me about the ranged b2b stuff is that in the quick start rules, its not allowed, but then when they did the full rule book, or advanced rules if you will (more detail), they threw that concept out. I know it was a simple, basic concept, but I gotta say I liked it - kept the "either/or" question out of the picture, plain and simple, no ranged attacks without atleast one space of separation. What can I say, I'm a simple guy.

Badges2
03/05/2003, 18:48
Originally posted by redherringj
You know, I'd love to hear a stand up routine about 'clix. Get on that, someone.
(In Seinfield voice)

And what's up with critical miss..?

Superman flies up to the villian and give him this great line about how he's about to go down. So Superman goes to punch the guy, but he moves out the way. Instead of hitting him, Superman punches himself in the crotch and loses Invulnerability. I mean come on. Isn't he the Man of Steel? Doesn't the Man of Steel have balls of steel?

TalonMC
03/05/2003, 18:48
So I'm walking down the street the other day, minding my own business... When I notice a gumball machine sitting on the sidewalk.

"Hey, is that Hulk hiding behind that gumball machine?" I thought to myself.

"Nah... probably just my eyes playing tricks on me." So I walk on by.

Next thing I know... WHAM!

Half an hour later I wake up lying on the ground surrounded by gumballs and my head is killin' me. Then this lady in blue with a machine gun runs up to me and gives me a band-aid. Believe it or not, I felt alot better after that.

-MC

skforeman
03/05/2003, 18:55
at last! i'm so psyched for this - she's got my 2 favorite abilities on the SAME DIAL: running shot & blades/claws/fangs - i can't wait to add her to a team...

Brigadier M
03/05/2003, 18:58
LOL! Stop it! You guys are killing me!

Now this is a great thread. And to think that after checking out all the stats in the warriors section yesterday, I completely forgot there was a sneak peek today. Got the full peek yesterday.
Still, got a better look at the sculpt.

M!

Phantom
03/05/2003, 18:58
I’d play her all the time if I had her. The fact that she’s got the BCF/RCE combo is nice. Yeah, she’s generally better off using the RCE, but there are situations (Energy Shielded, Stealthed, or RCE is Outwitted) that you’ll be glad to have that BCF backup.

Drashia
03/05/2003, 19:02
she's got my 2 favorite abilities

Yeah... she has my two favourite assets...

escorp
03/05/2003, 19:03
Hi folk!

I think the mix of RCE and BCF can be really useful appart from substituting each other when one is outwitted. Imagine you 're facing a figure with Stealth in hindering terrain. Although you are b2b you can´t shoot him (or at least it would be more difficult if he doesn't have Stealth), so that is when BCF comes to the mix... Prepare to be sliced!

TalonMC
03/05/2003, 19:04
Originally posted by Phantom
I’d play her all the time if I had her. The fact that she’s got the BCF/RCE combo is nice. Yeah, she’s generally better off using the RCE, but there are situations (Energy Shielded, Stealthed, or RCE is Outwitted) that you’ll be glad to have that BCF backup.
Ah, too true! Thanks for reminding me about those situations, Phantom. Yes, BCF is definitely preferable then. But I still don't like the flyers' range attack rules. :p

-MC

Drashia
03/05/2003, 19:07
Badges:

The next thing you know, he's folded over like a cheap lawn chair only to be in base to base with Parasite, who must have ate some form of Kryptonite twinky, because his gas his just killing him. Yeah, and you thought a crowded subway was bad.

Johnny Blaze01
03/05/2003, 19:12
Alas she has a nice defense but push her once and what can she actually hit consistently? Another MoonDragon syndrome. Nice AV of 10 but push her once and you are hard pressed to get a good roll.

I think to balance out everything with Marvel more figures should be released with higher AV's. That way we wont be seeing the same old figs being played. I play other TCG's and its pretty much the same. All you see are the real powerful cards that are played in tournament play. The other less powerful cards are cool but not played in a winner's deck. The same holds true for Heroclix. If you want to balance the game then give AV of 11 or higher for most of the Power figs and that way more and more figs will see the light of day.

DC is a whole other story.

Thanosied
03/05/2003, 19:18
Yeah Daredevil11 she should be Iceman. He can make his arms ice mallets, ice swords, pretty much anything he wants. He can make an exact duplicate of himself for gods sake. He has toughness but doesn't, he has Incapacitate but only gets it at the end of his dial, he has EE because he shoots all kinds of weird ice objects.

In the comics he is esentially a sh i tty Magneto with a multitude of energy attacks but no telekinesis. I was worried in posts before Megacon that Wizkids would mess up a few of these guys really bad and I was right. They really messed him up. All bet Jon L has a point when he said that just because Iceman has gotten more powerful over the last few years doesn't mean he was always that way.

Well guess what? Unique Elektra in X-Plosion hasn't been out that long and she is 160 points of greatness. Iceman has had incredible power for at least 5 years running now(a little before the bashing of Bastion) and the X-Factor Iceman would still have had at least 1 click of toughness to start before barrier and EE. But hey what do I know. :)

Mr. Pilkington
03/05/2003, 19:25
Considering that Iceman has been around since the late 1960s they have quite a bit of power-variation time to cover, and honestly you said he has been so incredibly powerful for like 5 years... in my book that isn't long enough. Make him a Unique... just like the obscene Elektra thing in Xplosion. Heck, I want a U Iceman from back when he looked like a carpy snowman in black boots. But then I am an oldtimer when it comes to Marvel comics. None of that new fangled stuff for me. Heck, I'm even disappointed in the costume they have Colossus in. What the heck is he wearing?! Inverse chaps?! Sheesh.

redherringj
03/05/2003, 19:55
Let's keep on task here, people. We're either talking about Deathbird OR HeroClix standup material. Not the Ice guy.

Mongoose
03/05/2003, 19:56
What can I say. She is awesome. She and Apocalypse, are the uniques that I am looking for.

Drashia
03/05/2003, 20:12
So here I was, walking down the street minding my own business, when I see this guy with a bag come out of a store. I managed to peer into his bag and what do I see? A heroclix box with Green Lantern on it!!!!! OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!

TalonMC
03/05/2003, 20:17
Originally posted by Drashia
So here I was, walking down the street minding my own business, when I see this guy with a bag come out of a store. I managed to peer into his bag and what do I see? A heroclix box with Green Lantern on it!!!!! OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

Wow, Drashia. You busted out with the old-skool humor. :p Now that was funny!!

-MC

mylo1wagner
03/05/2003, 20:19
Drashia, I want my seconds back!

Melkoloran
03/05/2003, 20:29
Man. They'll give anyone RCE these days.

Jadehorde
03/05/2003, 20:45
Originally posted by TalonMC

But she can still use RCE to attack adjacent figures. So she can do 4 with that... *or* she can try for 6 with BCF, but why would you want to risk getting less than 4?

-MC

Well you do have a good chance at getting less than 4...but thinking about it another way...you have 50% chance of getting 4 or better....so if you have a PC character...it might be worth it to go for it...pretty high odds there of getting higher than a four...

Jadehorde
03/05/2003, 20:49
Originally posted by Thanosied
They should have gave her stats to Iceman and just did a switch-a-roo. What a shame. Oh well I get to look forward to 8-10-12 Paramedic and 70 characters with Perplex LOL. But seriously can we not get a consensus between power and not I mean she is a cheaper version of E Thor. My god would even the whole Imperial guard be able to beat Thor... I doubt it.. But oh well the figure actually looks nice as do most of the figures I have seen so far.

I'd say the entire Imperial guard would easily beat Thor...and even odds the average Avengers lineup.

daredevil11
03/05/2003, 20:58
Originally posted by redherringj
Let's keep on task here, people. We're either talking about Deathbird OR HeroClix standup material. Not the Ice guy.

Sorry, I thought we were comparing dials and the possibility of using Deathbird's for a different type of Iceman. As far as the standup material goes . . . here's one . ..

I was walking down the street one day and I saw a sign that said wanta be comedians this way . . .
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=14

Hows that for funny.

IceHot
03/05/2003, 21:00
I really think they have underpriced RCE with Flyers in there formulas. (At least according to that crazy rule abour RCE in base-to-base). I guess we will all learn to live with what they give us. So say hello to Firelord, Jr.

shin-goji
03/05/2003, 21:19
Well, looks like an update after all. I was robbed of my rightful 1st place position because the updat was late! Bah!

Looks like another excellent unique for my X-collection.

MarkFinn
03/05/2003, 21:21
I'm glad everyone loves the figure. She's not someone I'd field, though, and so it looks like she'll be great trade bait for a figure or two that I really need.

It's weird to be excited about a figure I won't use, but there you go. Momma Finn's boy was always marching to a different drummer.

shin-goji
03/05/2003, 21:22
Originally posted by IceHot
I really think they have underpriced RCE with Flyers in there formulas. (At least according to that crazy rule abour RCE in base-to-base). I guess we will all learn to live with what they give us. So say hello to Firelord, Jr.

Are you high? You will be able to field one Deathbird at best. Just one. She can take two clix of damage before she loses her RCE, andlacks F-Lord's obscene attack values. Before you go off with diarrhea of the fingers again, think before you type.

Kid Zemo
03/05/2003, 21:23
Originally posted by daredevil11
Hows that for funny.
Now THAT's funny.

IceHot, I think you may have a point if a flying and non-flying figure pay the same cost or relative cost for RCE.

As for Deathbird, I'm psyched! I love the character and, though as a player I tend to dislike powers that can't be used together on the same click, I think the stats look pretty fun. I'm glad that the figure itself looks so much better than in the megacon picture but I kinda wish they had used the old school look (with actual wings instead of half-cape) Nevertheless - I'm happy!

Now if I could just have a word with you about faction designation . . .

Kid Zemo

shin-goji
03/05/2003, 21:28
Here's another gripe easily laid to rest. Some people are soiling their Boba Fett underoos that she has RCE and BCF and WHY would you want to have a chance of doing 1 to 6 when you can definitely get 4 clicks. It's a little power called "Outwit."

Plus I'll take a chance to do 5 or 6 if I am base to base over a flat 4 if I have a chance. Probability control does wonders.

greenhornet
03/05/2003, 23:10
For her point value she's just awesome! She is to the Bad Guys what Moondragon is to the Good Guys for the cost!

Yeah, she's all that!

Angelripper
03/05/2003, 23:48
Blank first posters who cry "First".

Blank them in their stupid blanking blanks.



Now that the necessities are over, it appears that Deathbird rules all kinds of blank. It looks like she'll soon be blanking the blank out of a lot of blanking figures.

Thanosied
03/06/2003, 00:18
Why are the majority of the people that post on the realms crazy X-Men fans? Why do they think the X-Men or X-Men villians can defeat anyone? The only character in X-Men history that has obtained even a minute portion of a gods or cosmic beings power, is The Dark Phoenix. I like some X-men, Nightcrawler, Iceman, Wolverine, Angel and Havok but that doesn't mean I think that they are the be all and end all.

When I say Iceman should be better in the game its because he is one of the most powerful X-men out there. Just for X fans out there Apocalypse's time scheme would have never worked. Dr.Strange is on earth remember. And who defeated the X-Men's most powerful foe, Onslaught, oh thats right it was the Hulk and the real heroes in Marvel.

The X-men are a popular team and have good character qualities but people should wise up and remember the only mutant that matters on a grand scale is Magneto. Any other mutants are cannon fodder for a real power struggle.

MarkFinn
03/06/2003, 01:12
Whoosh!

FLAME ON!!!

PantherPriest
03/06/2003, 02:10
I tend to find more xhaters than xfriends. When xplosion was announced, I remember a lot of people hoping for very little xmen so they could have plenty of nonx figs.

what power struggle since when are we struggling for power?
Grand scale? Who said xmen being end all be all? What are you talking about? Get off that stupid horse

REAL HEROES? All your real heroes do all day is save the world from threats that could never possibly exist in the REAL world. The xmen are probably the only team that has even the slightest chance of ever being an actual event with REAL people. Thor? screw Thor, Thor sucks; as a matter of fact Thor and the Avengers suck! including panther when he was an avenger. As well as most of your REAL heros suck with overused plots and cliche battles, wihtout any sort of realism. Thanos sucks too, ooh look he has a lot of unoriginal no-one-gives-a-flying-fck-powers. Pity those who wield the gauntlet? F&ck the gauntet! You know what the xmen are written well something I can't say about most of the marvel universe, to hell with cosmic powers, who cares about cosmic powers? While all the 'cosmic powered' heroes are saving the world from flying purple space monkeys AGAIN, the xmen and other noncosmic people are doing interesting things. All those REAL heroes are written like ####, I've seen better comics in the newspaper.

That's what it really comes down to, most of the REAL heroes couldn't find a plot to save their lives.

Grand scale my #####

Batman1983
03/06/2003, 02:20
holy cow talk abouta beat down

PantherPriest
03/06/2003, 02:55
ok thanos, you waited too long, I'm not in the mood for arguin anymore.

(Panther invites everyone to coffee at starbucks)

Casby
03/06/2003, 05:57
Hmm. I was waiting for this one like crazy, and it's a bit disappointing really.
Sculpt isn't quite how I see her, and the colours are bad too. Deathbird wears metal armour that's all different shades of purple, and she has lots more makeup.

Happy with stats though, and still must get one!



Casby the fanboy ghost

AZS
03/06/2003, 09:33
Originally posted by Badges2

No. It is because All Your Base Are Belong To Us. Deathbird has a beer and cheets on JonL?

(for the rest of you wondering what the heck this exchange means, and where all the "I posted first!" carp comes from, its from Aint It Cool news. Unfortunately.)

Pontifex
03/06/2003, 11:27
Despite the usual mix of negative and positive here, I find myself quite interested in getting ahold of Deathbird. The stats are useful, the sculpt isn't as bad as some of you are saying, and I always liked Deathbird as a character. She always seemed to me to be Marvel's version of Starscream.

Badges2
03/06/2003, 11:47
Originally posted by Pontifex
She always seemed to me to be Marvel's version of Starscream.
Starscream..? As of the Decepticons? Deathbird was not that low and backstabbing. Well, actually.... Yeah, she was alot like Starscream. But cooler and less whiney.

Basil Elks
03/06/2003, 12:16
It's neat, but we've already commented on her. :D lol

darius_dax1
03/06/2003, 15:53
I know....let's give Iceman Deathbird's base, Deathbird's base to Unique Wasp, Unique Wasp's base to Yellowjacket and Yellowjacket's base to THANOS.

Thanosied
03/06/2003, 16:21
X-Men is the worst soap opera I have ever read. Who is macking Jean Grey this week or who wants to do a light show? This is for S H I T. Magneto shows up and we all go cry to MAMMA. You whinning babies. Real stories? Here is a real story.. Thanos shows up in X-World kills the X-Men rapes and then murders their families and leaves after erradicating every mutant except Magneto off the face of the earth once and for all. Ending your X this X that rants and rumblings. Magento lives to carry on a new blood line with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver.

Dexceus
03/06/2003, 16:23
Originally posted by Thanosied
A c o c k in the ear for each of you for saying F U C K Thanos. F U C K You. X-Men is the worst soap opera I have ever read. Who is macking Jean Grey this week or who wants to do a light show? This is for S H I T. Magneto shows up and we all go cry to MAMMA. You whinning babies. Real stories? Here is a real story.. Thanos shows up in X-World kills the X-Men rapes and then murders their families and leaves after erradicating every mutant except Magneto off the face of the earth once and for all. Ending your X this X that rants and rumblings. Magento lives to carry on a new blood line with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver.


You have to love the maturity.

darius_dax1
03/06/2003, 16:24
Wow! Did somebody anger the Mad Diety? We should all buy him an Infinity Gem pair of earrings to stay his hand.

Badges2
03/06/2003, 16:42
Okay. I've got a big question. First off, TM got banned for saying stuff that wasn't half as bad as what Thanosied just said. So, here is the question. How long untill Thanosied gets the can?

I'm not trying to be mean or prejudice. I just really don't like people who use that language and in such a mean-spirited way. Some of the things Thanosied said (rape) shouldn't even be joked about. Go and kiss your mother with that mouth..er...give her a big hug with those hands that typed it too.

cephusdog
03/06/2003, 16:54
I agree w/ Badges. No need.

hemlock
03/06/2003, 17:12
All I can say is Storm probably would survive your "scenario" being that she could go crazy and destroy the planet before Thanos had the chance, what do you have to say to that? Even if he had the decision he would keep her alive to use as a weapon for other master plans as a lackey.

Badges2
03/06/2003, 17:16
Storm + Box = Clostrophobia.

Clostrophobia + Storm = Panic

Panic + Storm = Useless

ohyeah...

Thanosied + Language = Banned

shin-goji
03/06/2003, 17:20
Originally posted by PantherPriest
ok thanos, you waited too long, I'm not in the mood for arguin anymore.

(Panther invites everyone to coffee at starbucks)

I'm with you on this one!

shin-goji
03/06/2003, 17:23
Originally posted by Thanosied
A c o c k in the ear for each of you for saying F U C K Thanos. F U C K You. X-Men is the worst soap opera I have ever read. Who is macking Jean Grey this week or who wants to do a light show? This is for S H I T. Magneto shows up and we all go cry to MAMMA. You whinning babies. Real stories? Here is a real story.. Thanos shows up in X-World kills the X-Men rapes and then murders their families and leaves after erradicating every mutant except Magneto off the face of the earth once and for all. Ending your X this X that rants and rumblings. Magento lives to carry on a new blood line with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver.

Man...I cannot WAIT until I face you in a forum game and give you a run for your money. Anyone want me to build an X-Team? Or should the Sentinels and Con Artists attack?

Badges2
03/06/2003, 17:26
Originally posted by shin-goji
Man...I cannot WAIT until I face you in a forum game and give you a run for your money. Anyone want me to build an X-Team? Or should the Sentinels and Con Artists attack?
I've got a better idea. Why don't we all go back a page and report his post to a moderator? X-Men Assemble.. i mean... Avergers Attack...er.... go.gadjet.go...?

darius_dax1
03/06/2003, 17:26
Did all of you notice the fantasy of Magneto, Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch carrying on a bloodline?

shin-goji
03/06/2003, 17:28
The last thing I want to envision is Quicksilver tongueing his father...

Badges2
03/06/2003, 17:35
Originally posted by shin-goji
The last thing I want to envision is Quicksilver tongueing his father...
Did you really have to be so... descriptive? Couldn't you have just said something a little less.. envisioning? ....shudder....

Anyway, Scarlet Witch was a babe! She'd be really good in the sack too. If things weren't going to good, or if you/her got tired.. bam.. all of a sudden you get a second wind... and third.. and forth.

Thanosied
03/06/2003, 17:49
I don't like you your banned. He is not nice banned. He tells the truth banned. I love this guy did he put the guns into the hands of those students at columbine high?

Rake
03/06/2003, 17:51
Originally posted by Badges2

I've got a better idea. Why don't we all go back a page and report his post to a moderator?

I think his scared. He edited his post. Funny thing is that the very next post below it has the full original post quoted. Well done Dexceus.

On more important matters, I think Deathbird looks pretty good, both sculpt and statswise. On top of that I really like any character that has killed one of the good guys (well according to whoclix she did and that's where my knowledge of deathbird starts and ends).

Badges2
03/06/2003, 18:15
Originally posted by Rake
On more important matters, I think Deathbird looks pretty good, both sculpt and statswise. On top of that I really like any character that has killed one of the good guys (well according to whoclix she did and that's where my knowledge of deathbird starts and ends).
I agree. No more attention to him. Back to the real subject matter at hand. This is going to be the must-have in XP that Nightcrawler was in CT..... almost. She is definantly one of the better, more practical uniques that can do some serious trashing all her on. I think I'm going to pair her up with a R Dove and she can teach Dove some new tricks.

daredevil11
03/06/2003, 18:29
I'm "aware" of the Shi'ar, (sp) but that's about it, so I'm looking at this figure so far purely for the base and what she will bring to the game.

I'm assuming they're not going to make a Shi'ar team, but what other Shi'ar characters do you think they might add in later, if any - I know their queen had something going with Professor X, atleast I think that is true. Some of you people in the know, give me a clue here. I'm more familiar with the Kree and am waiting for them, white and blue + Ronan the Accuser LOL.

darius_dax1
03/06/2003, 18:41
The Sh'iar are an alien race that has battled the Kree and the Skrulls. Deathbird is the sister of Queen Lilandra. The Queen has an Imperial Guard. The Imperial Guard were fashioned after (ripped off from) DC's Legion of SUper-heroes. Wolverine's brown costume comes from one of the I.G. Fang (DC's Timber Wolf). Wolverine wore it to honor Fang after Fang was killed by the Brood (ripped off from Alien).

shin-goji
03/06/2003, 19:51
Originally posted by Thanosied
I don't like you your banned. He is not nice banned. He tells the truth banned. I love this guy did he put the guns into the hands of those students at columbine high?
No, I did. Bang! Bang!
If your Clix skills are anywhere close to your English, I'll have an easy fight with ya!

shin-goji
03/06/2003, 19:52
Originally posted by Thanosied
X-Men is the worst soap opera I have ever read. Who is macking Jean Grey this week or who wants to do a light show? This is for S H I T. Magneto shows up and we all go cry to MAMMA. You whinning babies. Real stories? Here is a real story.. Thanos shows up in X-World kills the X-Men rapes and then murders their families and leaves after erradicating every mutant except Magneto off the face of the earth once and for all. Ending your X this X that rants and rumblings. Magento lives to carry on a new blood line with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver.

THIS is edited? [hysterical laughter]

daredevil11
03/07/2003, 00:31
Originally posted by PantherPriest
Thor? screw Thor, Thor sucks; as a matter of fact Thor and the Avengers suck! including panther when he was an avenger. As well as most of your REAL heros suck with overused plots and cliche battles, wihtout any sort of realism. Thanos sucks too, ooh look he has a lot of unoriginal no-one-gives-a-flying-fck-powers. Pity those who wield the gauntlet? F&ck the gauntet!
.......
Grand scale my #####

Shin-goji - I agree that Thanoseid's posts are over the top recently. But, let's not forget this post, which has gone uncommented on except by Thanoseid for some reason and that's when he went off. I don't know, is this a case of selective hearing or something? I really didn't want to discuss either posts, but it seems it won't drop, so I'm going to report both to the moderators, which is what I can do as a member, let them sort it out, and then I'm going about my business. Maybe that's what we should all do, report what you find offensive and move on - just a thought.

Jadehorde
03/07/2003, 00:41
Originally posted by Thanosied
Why are the majority of the people that post on the realms crazy X-Men fans? Why do they think the X-Men or X-Men villians can defeat anyone? The only character in X-Men history that has obtained even a minute portion of a gods or cosmic beings power, is The Dark Phoenix. I like some X-men, Nightcrawler, Iceman, Wolverine, Angel and Havok but that doesn't mean I think that they are the be all and end all.

When I say Iceman should be better in the game its because he is one of the most powerful X-men out there. Just for X fans out there Apocalypse's time scheme would have never worked. Dr.Strange is on earth remember. And who defeated the X-Men's most powerful foe, Onslaught, oh thats right it was the Hulk and the real heroes in Marvel.

The X-men are a popular team and have good character qualities but people should wise up and remember the only mutant that matters on a grand scale is Magneto. Any other mutants are cannon fodder for a real power struggle.

If this directed to the comment I made about the Imperial Guard capable of beating Thor handily and the Avengers about half the time...I'll stick with it...

Simply, the Guard are based on the Legion of Superheroes from DC. Given that...their leader, Gladiator, is based on Pre-Crisis Superman...the being capable of juggling planets easily...and Gladiator has immense strength feats to prove he is worthy to follow in those shoes...plus he's intergalactic speeds, energy attacks...etc.

I'd say at the least, him alone can give Thor a good fight. Throwing in the horde of powers at the disposal of the Imperial Gaurd, two members with similar powers to Gladiator...two psychics, a dozen energy/matter manipulators, and some others...I'd say it's the height of fanboyishness to assume Thor could compete with this alone. Even the vaunted Avengers would have difficulties with this crew.

PantherPriest
03/07/2003, 02:34
So Wakanda has an enemy, then. Very Well, the Panther accepts. The lines have been drawn, faces have been slapped, gauntlets have been soiled. The stakes rate at their highest and the life of all hangs in the balance. Prepare the talon fighters and cue the Jimi Hendrix





LET THE BATTLE BEGIN!

Oh, I thought you enjoyed hatemail thanos?! I am quite pleased that I have caused such a disturbance amongst the realm.

Dardevil thank you for your nobility, I believe that I wasn't commented on because I didn't swear as much. I've said worse than what I stated there.


Thanos is probably a very powerhungry comic book reader, his posts seem to be of thus and the teams he builds. My comments never stated that the xmen were more powerful than thanos, or anything of the sort. I mean to say that the xbooks have intrigue and just a tad bit of intelligence to them, this is what I consider a comic. Unlike thanos who will moan about his girl, moan about his gauntlet, moan about his lowself esteem, and then decide to kill everything. Which is fun it its own right but it is completely fantasy. The xmen at least have a little bit of application in the real world. I hate the flat characters of most of the avengers and find their epic battles annoyingly predictable. As with Thanos.

Thanosied obviously is the opposite, he would probably consider a brilliant intellectual book as black panther (pre casper cole) boring because there is no rape(?) and or pillage. Speaking of rape... I believe someone needs to go home to their boyfriend Darksied for a little quality time.

Inuyasha
03/09/2003, 09:36
Hmm was thinking of when Deathbird would use her bcf instead of shooting her opponent in cc and i came up with one or to situations.

1) her target is in cover and has stealth/Batman team

2) her target has Energy Shield/Deflection

3) You have 3 probablity controllers and are feeling lucky :)

Grinner
03/09/2003, 11:36
Originally posted by darius_dax1
Wolverine's brown costume comes from one of the I.G. Fang (DC's Timber Wolf). Wolverine wore it to honor Fang after Fang was killed by the Brood (ripped off from Alien).

Wolverine wore one of Fang's costumes after his had been destroyed when the X-men first met the Imperial Guard, but he switched to his brown costume after Jean died, about 2-3 years before the Brood storyline.

drhypnotic
03/11/2003, 16:42
At a mere 70 points, this quick-and-deadly combatant is a veritable hurt machine. From a distance, Running Shot and Ranged Combat Expert give him a perilous set of choices. Up close and personal, use Blades/Claws/Fangs to rake over your opponent.

Woah.. SHE IS A HE?!

Mr.Heroclix
03/12/2003, 14:07
I have to say that I'm digging the Deathbird piece. Great mix of powers, decent clix, great value! And a KILLER sculpt.

However...

Reading the posts for the past few days, I've come to a conclusion..."Personal Preference" and "Opinion" should only be reserved for those who can use it in an adult manner. For example, if you cannot express your opinions without swearing madly (edited or not) or beating your "opponent" over the head with them like a club (pro "X" or not), then you should perhaps take some classes in interpersonal communications before attempting to argue with anyone. This is a forum, true, but (I don't know about you guys/girls[?]) I'd appreciate some acknowledgement of decorum and civility.

Thank you.

dcclixsuck
03/12/2003, 18:16
DONT BE GAY. EVERYONE WHOS EVERYONE CURSES. YOU CURSE SO SHUT THE HELL UP!

mylo1wagner
03/12/2003, 18:31
Gays don't curse? I'm confused. Oh, your saying YOUR gay, and you don't want anyone to follow your example. Well thanks for coming out of the closet. It's cramped trying to play heroclix in there.

redherringj
03/12/2003, 18:34
Nothing wrong with being gay, kids. Lets stop using it as a punchline or insult.

mylo1wagner
03/12/2003, 18:37
My point exactly. Using Gay as an epithet is "SOOOO GAY!" Just kidding around; but I think as a slur goes it is entirely inaccurate. Richard the Lionhearted was not lame or half-hearted. Alexander the Great was not a looser and less than one would expect. They were both homosexual, but neither they nor most homosexuals are "gay" in the sense the word is used these days as in "That is so gay."

dcclixsuck
03/12/2003, 18:57
ARE YALL CALLING ME GAY OR THE DUDE THAT THINKS ITS NOT RIGHT TO SWEAR IN POSTS?

redherringj
03/12/2003, 18:59
I'm all for swearing, so we mean you. Not the other guy.

Puuka
03/12/2003, 19:00
now now children, stop reffering to people as being gay, it's offensive. Call them "Less Than Hetro" thats so much better

PantherPriest
03/13/2003, 23:32
I was just having a bit of fun with my archnemesis, I rarely am that obtrusive on these posts

dcclixsuck
03/14/2003, 09:43
IM ALL FOR SWEARING THE OTHER GUY ISENT!



"if you cannot express your opinions without swearing madly (edited or not) or beating your "opponent" over the head with them like a club (pro "X" or not), then you should perhaps take some classes in interpersonal communications before attempting to argue with anyone"
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