Mr. Fixit =104 pts of POOP

[harles2000]

I tried to use a Mr. Fixit in booster draft tourney last night - he never even got a single hit off, and didnt do anything but stand around while being pushed to a useful click - which he missed when a blue or red thor handed him his a** - yes it was that kind of night - i did great drafting, a mr fixit and a medusa, but after that, nothing, no support figs, nothing to work with. everyone else had either e thor, v thor, e thing or Superskrull. It was embarassing.

but back on topic, Mr. Fixit is one of the most utterly useless figs ever. the hulk with only toughness? yet another hulk that has to get pulverized to be worth a ####? And this is supposed to be a smarter hulk? so give him leadership and perplex, and a 7 att and 14 def and watch him get pummelled by anyone with a 8 or better av. true cra p ladies and gentlemen. BOO.

[Spiritual_Ex]

"I didn't figure out how to use a model the first time I fielded him. It must be total "poop" then"

As if, Fixit is a decent figure, he isn't the best, but he certainly isn't bad. You either used him inccorectly (I'll tell you that pushing him isn't all that smart, he isn't like the regulat Hulk), or had bad luck.

He starts out pretty decent, with the exception of a low attack, get him next to your opponent. Let him get smacked to a better click, and then use Perplex to pump up or Damage or Attack and let yout opponent have it with an object.

Thor, simply put, is a better model, and this is reflected in his higher points cost. You saying that fixit couldn't stand up to Thor is like me saying Wolvebane can't stand up to Sabretooth. Of course its true! But that doesn't mean Fixit or Wolvesbane are bad pieces.

[batfink]

Really? I played him in a tourney & he took out both Bane & Logan. Everybody has good days. Everybody has bad days.

[superfreak]

He's Poop.

[LurkMaster2000]

well, since he's poop, anybody willing to give him to me? i'm willing to take that piece of poop off of anybody's hands. i'll even throw in a vet thor...

[DS-00-0, FSD]

A few things to consider:

Grey Hulk was weaker than the regular Hulk. He does have the "Hulk Up" feature like all Hulk versions because that's Hulk's schtick:

"Don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry"

That being said, it's perfectly clear why you did not win with him. Mr Fixit has a hard timer standing up to Thor, Superskrull, and Thing. They are more linear figs; Strong at the begining and get weaker as they go (although Superskrull does do some funky stuff in his dial).

Mr Fixit cannot be played as a normal "Linear" fig, because he's a "Bell Curve" fig: he peaks in the middle. As such, you really need to have a good parallel strategy going.

You need figs that can put the hurt on the opponent while Hulk gets a bit stronger. Do not have him go toe to toe with a completely healthy Thor or Thing. Wear them down a click or two, then when they are a bit weaker, Fixit has less to worry about.

If Medusa was your only other viable team mate, you were destined for failure. You needed one other fig to help put a hurt on the opponent's bricks. There are few other cheap figs that have a damage value of 3 (in order to get past the Invulnerability). Pulling one in a booster draft would have been next to impossible.

Still, getting two uniques had to have made it a good night.

[harles2000]

i have spent some time before the tourney trying to find a place for him in a team, but to no avail. hes too high cost for a support fig, leadership or perlexing alone. he cant bruise worth a crud.

also pushing him is necc. or you will never get to his perplex or his 2, i repeat 2 clicks of invuln. not to mention that for 104 points hes a little light on the clicks as well

i think that he should have had invuln all the way, cept maybe the first click, and cost about 120 with the improved def.

oh and i didnt just square him off against thor and thing, i really tried to use him as a harasser to take out taxis and support and all, but without running shot or a taxi - wasnt able to pull one, closest thing i had was e human (flaming poop on a stick) torch.

it was a 200 pt team btw. so not alot of room for anything else

[de4dp00l]

It's refreshing to see someone complaining about something besides X-plosion.

btw - I don't care much for Fixit either, but it sounds to me like you played him rather poorly. His stats aren't terrible at any point on his dial, so if you were focusing on pushing him rather than doing something useful, I'd say that was a tactical error, and blaming it on Fixit being poop is a bit short sighted.

[harles2000]

yes pulling 2 uniques was awesome, even though i had them both already-trading fodder yay.

also my gf pulled herself a superskrull and we ended up getting the random LE after 1st and 2nd got theirs - it was sue storm - sorta - it had a dr doom fig, dr doom stats, and a sue storm base. good luck mixed with #### - my general theme for the night.

after the tourney i picked up 7 boxes - 6 ic and 1 ct and pulled a unique wolvie - my third lol.

and youre right i didnt have anything that could hurt thor thing or skrull as the only other 3 pt of dam fig i had was a friggin blue elektra-ie the worst fig ever made. 22 pts of dont waste your time with a 2 range and rce lol.

anyway thats alot of negative so heres the positive - had i been doing a 300 pt contructed i could have used the medusa as a nasty little harasser/tie up piece

and i do so love nightcrawler even if he is a bit limited
V doc oc is a monster gotta love him
U Moondragon is another great fig as is E White Queen
And who doesnt love the V AIM medic? - a medic that can actually hit once in a while

[harles2000]

his stats arent terrible???
6 6 7 8 7 7 6 6 ko ko ko ko
7 8 9 10 9 9 8 7 ko ko ko ko
14 15 15 16 16 15 14 13 ko ko ko ko
2 2 3 3 3 3 2 2 ko ko ko ko

lets keep in mind were talking the hulk here - grey or not. also those numbers arent high, theyre average and seeing as it takes at least 3 clicks before Fixit can even hurt an invuln char there wasnt much for me to do but push him to the point where he could do some damage - remember i had only e elektra to do 3 clicks of damage with and her 2 range cra-p.

So as limited as i was i think i did the best i could. which was not a dam thing except die

[DS-00-0, FSD]

But you also had Ex Human Torch. He could have been your Running Shot Taxi for her. Granted, their attack values are abysmal (Electra hitting Thor with an attack value of 8??), but with clever use of terrain (Electra's stealth would keep Torch alive longer) it might have been possible to get a good shot in now and then and chip away until Fixit could come in to clean up. Still have 15 points left over, but again, I'm playing arm-chair QB here.

On a side note, you can always send back your LE and they should give you a corrected fig (now you just have to choose between Sue or Doombot).

[A_Higher_Level]

If you want over 100pts of poop go with the unique Parasite from DC's Hyper Time.

[JerryReedStyle]

The only problem with using a fig once, failing, then saying its worthless is that its all relative. If, by chance, you'd had better luck with Fixit and won the game, you'd probably be posting about all the @$$-kicking you and Mr. Fixit laid out on some poor sap. Possible?

[DS-00-0, FSD]

Originally posted by A_Higher_Level
If you want over 100pts of poop go with the unique Parasite from DC's Hyper Time.

I believe you mean:

If you want to see over 100 pts taking a poop, go with the unique Parasite from DC's Hypertime. ;) :p

[JerryReedStyle]

HA ha HA HA....pretty funny...

[harles2000]

ok the torch elektra combo had potential, but e torch is nothing more than a very low def, weak damage shoot me please target.

and you better believe i kept elektra in hindering terrain. also thru the 3 matches i changed teams a few times trying to get something going.

the first was medusa, e aim agent, e human turd and e black cat - e thing pummeled me with objects and charge - very bad day

next i tried mr fixit, e human turd and elektra - E thor running shot me to bits, dropped objects on elektra and just smushed me

finally i went with mr fixit, e elektra, and medusa - was hoping against hope to once in a while push someone - but my opponent played a vet Thor by himself and i just never could get to a point where i could even touch him. - demolished

[de4dp00l]

Originally posted by harles2000
his stats arent terrible???
6 6 7 8 7 7 6 6 ko ko ko ko
7 8 9 10 9 9 8 7 ko ko ko ko
14 15 15 16 16 15 14 13 ko ko ko ko
2 2 3 3 3 3 2 2 ko ko ko ko

lets keep in mind were talking the hulk here - grey or not. also those numbers arent high, theyre average and seeing as it takes at least 3 clicks before Fixit can even hurt an invuln char there wasnt much for me to do but push him to the point where he could do some damage - remember i had only e elektra to do 3 clicks of damage with and her 2 range cra-p.

So as limited as i was i think i did the best i could. which was not a dam thing except die

So are you saying that every opposing figure on the board had Invulnerable? Fixit couldn't attack anyone except Thor? You could have been using him to go after the support pieces. Not to mention that Fixit has Super Strength down the whole dial along with damage that never drops below 2, so if you have and object in hand, you will always be able to get at least one click past invuln. With Leap/Climb, nothing can stop you from going where you want to go. His start and finish AV of 7 is pretty abysmal, but like you said, the rest of his numbers are average.

Again, like I said, Fixit isn't spectacular, and you'd have a hard time beating a well constructed Thor team with him, but I still feel that you're selling the piece a little too short. He requires a more creative approach than Thor or the Superskrull, but he can be effective.

[harles2000]

i did use hulk that way - and i did state that earlier. i do have to make one correction though hulk was able to hit a v doombot and a medic at one point - dropped a forklift on the bot and threw an engine at the medic i believe. but going back to the fact that i faced either thor with running shot or thing with charge - i didnt have alot of luck with getting into range for a shot. and even so i could only do 1 point of damage 3 times if i had had all the heavy objects on my side of the board.

and as far as using human turd to taxi fixit, i did that once, rolled something like a 5 in plus his amazing 7 attack and missed by 5 on thing, who then slammed me for 6 using a heavy object

[harles2000]

so does anyone else have any comments as to how great or ####py fixit is? or me for that matter, since i wasnt able to defeat some of the more powerful figs in the game with such limited resources? anyone anyone?

[ScrewOnHead]

let me say how excited i was to get mr. fixit. i had realized that i had no clobbering time uniques and went to the comic shop with my last nine bucks to buy a booster and guess what i pulled? a mr. fixit! awesome, right? i dunno. i've used him in probably half a dozen friendly games and have never, NEVER, been successful. i've always blamed it on "not knowing how to play him right", but after reading this, i realize i'm not the only one, and maybe, he is just 103 points of poop. just my opinion....

i'd probably be willing to trade the bastard for another unique. although i find it hard to part with any unique unless i have doubles....

[ultimatemark]

I also pulled Fixit in a sealed tourny (300pts). It took quite a bit of debating with myself, but I didn't use him. I used the V Human torch/ E Blastaar + filler instead. Won the tourny. I did try him in an team with V Doc Oc and Nightcrawler. He was taken out FAST. Part of the problem was that he was seen as a huge threat b/c he's the hulk. More like Hulk-Lite if you ask me. Looks great, less filling.

[redherringj]

The successes I've had with Fixit have been due to a couple of the things you guys have already stated here:

1. He is a target
2. He isn't the powerhouse

Teaming him up with an inconspicuous Logan fig has worked out on occasion for me. While the other team targets the most threatening LOOKING figure on the board (Fixit), you can manuever your real hitter (Logan) into place to flank the opponents supporting figs. After Fixit takes a few hits, Perplex up an object's bash for a rebuttal. Keep a ranged figure near Joe to reap the occasional reward of perplex and to potshot his attackers, and VOILA--- you may have a chance.

I agree, his AV is too low for such a highly costed figure. But thats the story these days isn't it.

[Psylockeslover]

I'm still waiting for my Fixit.:(

I actually got to use him once and did pretty good with him. (700 pt. game) I ended up losing, but that had more to do with carppy roles at critical times.

But, thats HC for ya....

[Wileyone]

Sorry, I don't have Fixit. But, I must comment on your thoughts about E. Human Torch.

In a 200 pt game he can be Excellent. I know V. Human Torch is awsome and makes the Experienced version look silly but actually the two pieces serve different roles.

The Vet is definitly a first shot figure with good damage. But, the Experienced is a support figure with moderate damage.

In a sealed booster tourney, I drew E.Human Torch, E Black Cat, V Toad, ? Vampire Lacky, R. Doc Ock, E Shield Sniper, Skrull somebody and V. White Queen. I dropped the Skrull and White Queen, used everyone else (with only 185pts) and came in second place out of 8. I should have won my first game, but made a mistake at the end and let toad get killed.

Anyhow, I faced R. Thor in one game, V.Sandman in another game, and E. White Queen in game 3. My team of No-Big-Hitters did very well. And, I was very happy with E. Torch who either carried the Shield figure or launched Toad into action. E. Torch works better with some figures than others (like most do) So I guess it was more your selection/combination of figures than anything else.

[harles2000]

i agree on torch - if i had even one shield person drawn from the draft i would have been alot better off with him, then i would have been able to pick at thing and thor and such, without well, for 50 odd points human turd does little more than annoy at best, die very very fast at usual.

but as far as fixit's sorry behind - i dont think there is any excusing him. hes got some good abilities, but he should have had charge and invuln, then he would have been useful. without it hes just a big fat low def target waiting to get spanked by his uncle thor or cousin ben

[Wileyone]

I just went and reviewed Fixit's stats in the warrior’s section. He looks like he would be best used in a 300pt or more Swarm attack team. (Sorry, I know I go crazy for swarm teams).

He starts off with leadership, so you want extra figures to utilize those extra actions. This is good for a swarm team.

He starts off rather weak, so he needs some good firepower (but not heavy cost firepower due to his own cost). Again a swarm team works here.... Moderately tough (and Moderate in cost) figures like Sabertooth, Bullseye, and others. "Free move" figures are especially helpful.

He starts with a move of 6 with leap/Climb. So, his move isn't very high but leap/climb will help him go after figures on rooftops or through hard to get places. Give him a tk or taxi boost and send him after the soft underbelly of your opponent (Medics, Snipers, etc.). I know you tried this but in your 200pt game you didn't have any way to deal with opponent's big guns (while you went after his weak figures). In a good swarm team, you should be able to intercept many of his tough figures with cheap 9pt figures. Use your moderate figures to weaken his tough figures and scare his weak figures with Fixit. I know this requires good maneuvering but a "free move" swarm attack team does this pretty easily!

When you maneuver into his soft belly he will probably react strongly. I know that I lose QuickSilver a lot because he is always on top the opponent's medics. But, he gets the job done. In this situation, you will likely find your opponent attacking Fixit (which is want you want). Now you get tougher, you can perplex your teammates and generally cause havoc. Losing leadership isn't a big deal since you have "free moves" and because you will likely have lost some of your cheap cannon fodder by this point.

Swarm teams really do work. I think I will try to make a Mr. Fixit version. Swarm teams always require playing them a few times to get good with them. They are not the straightforward power team but they sure do aggravate your opponent (and they do win).

P.S. I remembered that my 9 yr old daughter has a Mr. Fixit. So, I'll let you know what I come up with.

(edited for grammer etc..)

[Gorrack]

yeah...why not combo Mr Fixit with YOUR powerhouse of choice, Apocalypse! :P

Yeah, Fixit just sucks. Ill just blatantly say that. Im not one to say that some figs have moderate playability. If a figure sucks, it sucks, and dear god, Mr Fixit is YOUR poop of the day. Congradulations on your poop :P

[Wileyone]

Fixit Swarm, 400pts
No duplicates, No theme, Just a swarm

U. Fixit 104pts
R. Vulture 15pts
E. Bullseye 31pts
V. Doombot 38pts Copy Free Move and Hydra +1 to hit
V. Pyro 42pts Free Move
V. Doombot 38pts Copy free Move and Hydra +1 to hit
R. Doc Ock 22pts
R. QuickSilver 18pts Free Move
R. Scarlet Witch 29pts Free Move
R. Black Panther 27pts Free Move
R. Hydra Op x4 36pts

14 figures, 400pt = 8 actions over 2 turns with 6 free Moves plus 3 rolls for leadership.

This team should easily swarm your opponent. Basic idea, Tie up your opponent and shoot with Pyro/Bullseye. Doombots can move them for free AND give them +1 to hit. Can combine Pyro/Bullseye with more hydra for high defense figs. Black Panther is for Invul/tough to improve the damage of your guns. Keep Panther back early so as not to risk him.

Your opponent will likely think your main weapon is Fixit. I think he will be suprised by well a horde team works. Fixit should dominate the second half of the game, acting as the clean up batter and ensuring victory. Clean up work doesn't mean keep him back, though, just use him wisely.

Turn 1:
Advance all four hydra (1 space between each)
Advance QSilver, and Scarlet Witch

Turn 2:
Advance Doc Ock
Move Doombot/Bullseye, Doombot/Pyro and
either Vulture/Panther or Vulture/Fixit
Move remaining Panther or Fixit next to Vulture to keep options open on future turn

Repeat turns one and two as you swarm your opponent. Hydra are great as walking walls that tie up the opponent and/or give your range shooters +1 attack.

Push Doc Ock every time you can. He can really move far in two turns vs everyone else's one turn and rest. Leap/climb and moderate fighting skills make him a bargin.

Outdoors, Send Fixit and Doc Ock after Roof Top figures. But, try to tie up his key figures so they don't all gang up on Fixit too quickly. Outdoors, the swarm relies on vast numbers advancing to succeed.

Indoors makes the swarm even better because you can really lock down the opponent. Place figures near doorways and limit your opponents ability to move. Some of his figures may get through, but you will likely seperate and divide his figures and generally make life very difficult for him.

Your opponent will KO many of your figures (hydra, maybe Doc Ock, maybe QSilver) but they won't add up to many points. Meanwhile you KO important figures on his team. Make sure you KO medics if he's using Firelord. Don't be afraid of powerhouse figures. Opponents always end up pushing their figures when fighting a swarm. This will make them more vulnerable and help you win. It takes a little practice so don't give up.

[Wileyone]

Gorrack Gump: (just kidding)

You've got to be kidding.

:)

[Spiritual_Ex]

Fly up with a taxi, Use leap/climb to run up and base an opponent (thor or Thing), picking up a heavy object on the way. Your opponent can now hit you for 4 points (pick a time that forces your opponent to push to hit you). Your opponent hits you for 4, you take 3, and you are now on your premium clicks, now you can smack your opponent for 6 (+the one he took for pushing to hit you) and he'll be down at least 4 clicks, and he'll be in far worse shape than you because of the fact that your stats increase as your dial goes down. If Thor or Thing manage to hit you again, you still have Invul, meaning you can take another hit or two (depending upon their damage), and if you go down into your Regen clicks just run away (you have Leap/Climb all the time) and heal up (Or just Regenerate on the spot if you trust your dice). Regen is an awesome ability, and your other figures should work on taking out the opposing teams medic so their heavy hitters can't heal. You can fairly easily heal back up to your premium clicks with Regen, and no-one can take it away from you, with the exception of Outwit(tie up the heavy hitters with the rest of your team if you have to, just make sure he gets healed up).

Sorry, I don't see him being a "bad" figure, even against heavy hitters he can do alright with a bit of planning.

Sure he isn't perfect, and his dial is relatively shallow, but he is usefull in my mind. And not unplayable in a 200 point force by any means.

[MarkFinn]

If anyone is interested in trading your poopy Mr. Fixit for my shiny new Black Costume Spidey, please PM me. We'll take care of what's ailing you.

[harles2000]

the only problem with your scenario is just that, that everything has to go that way for him to work. and even with a taxi and leap climb against thor or thing with their move and attack he cant match up.

now i do want everyone to understand this - im not saying that he is the worst fig ever made, because there is worse, but what im saying is that for his cost, you get very little bang, and hes only useful in a handful of situations, and of top of that, he's just an embarrassment to everything hulk. I understand that grey hulk was weaker, but really, was he that weak? I mean the current hulk lifts somewhere around 100tons. how much of a difference would 10-20 tons of lifting power really make? and as we all know thing cant really stand up to hulk, sure they can go at it pretty good, but thing just doesnt have what it takes - admittedly thats against green hulk. either savage or smart green or whoever - ive never really read hulk comics.

my point to this whole rant is that due to his overall not so usefulness i had my butt handed to me 2 times last night, and not just handed to me, but done so in a truly embarassing manner.

OH wait one last point - Since when is hulk so weak that black cat can match him for damage???? or for crying out loud a veteran vulture - truly that is the ultimate insult to hulk. its a sad day when Mr. Hyde can outpunch the Hulk.

[hulkamania85]

Originally posted by harles2000
I tried to use a Mr. Fixit in booster draft tourney last night - he never even got a single hit off, and didnt do anything but stand around while being pushed to a useful click - which he missed when a blue or red thor handed him his a** - yes it was that kind of night - i did great drafting, a mr fixit and a medusa, but after that, nothing, no support figs, nothing to work with. everyone else had either e thor, v thor, e thing or Superskrull. It was embarassing.

but back on topic, Mr. Fixit is one of the most utterly useless figs ever. the hulk with only toughness? yet another hulk that has to get pulverized to be worth a ####? And this is supposed to be a smarter hulk? so give him leadership and perplex, and a 7 att and 14 def and watch him get pummelled by anyone with a 8 or better av. true cra p ladies and gentlemen. BOO.

#####, #####, #####, that's the only thing people do on these boards.

[DJBot]

I'm sorry but I have a soft spot for this fig. My girl friend bought me one booster for Christmas to put in my stocking and I got badass Mr. Fixit! Woo! Not only is he a huge fig I find he is great to play with. sure he starts off ####py but that allows for a little pushing up to his good clicks where he shines plus gains perplex for even more greatness. He may not be the best but he is by far one of my favorite uniques to field for fun.

[Batman1983]

You see some people play games for fun. others....

[Glorfindel]

Yeah, I agree. I love Mr Fixit.

Bad for the scenario you were in, true. But I've slaughtered with him before.

[harles2000]

im very happy for the sentiment you hold with your Mr. Fixit, and i will, repeat, will admit that he has at least one more use than paperweight, but i stand firm on my belief that all in all he's poop.

he is not unplayable, he is not just challenging, he is specialized. he can only fit into certain circumstances. like if nobody uses invulnerability or outwit or firelord or even toughness or probability control for that rare occasion when he rolls a 10 to add to that 7 AV and hits something. yes his AV goes up to 10, but by then hes already 3 clicks deep on his 8 click dial. one tough thing with a forklift = 4 clicks of damage, meaning you have 1 click left if youre lucky. and go forbid someone uses a she-hulk doc oc combo to get that extra click of damage.

but i digress, i have to continually remind myself that out of 11 boxes me and my gf pulled 4 uniques-superskrull for her, medusa, fixit, wolverine for me, and we won the random LE - Sue Storm(even though i have to send her mismatched heiny back to get it replaced).

Yes the majority of my hatred for this figure comes from the fresh feeling of embarassment and humiliation at having not only lost 3 games, but at having been wiped off the board 3 times and only defeating 1 doombot who pushed himself to death running from my fixit/torch combo. but some of it also comes from that fact that it is the hulk, and a very poor representation of him. and that he is so limited as to his usefulness. ok, thats long enough for now, sheesh

[harles2000]

i play for fun. but im also very competitive. winning is fun, losing is not. but as long as there is something to be learned from losing thats ok too - helps you win more. what i learned from losing with Mr. Fixit is that he is poop in a 200pt army, and upon further inspection is just general poop.

i do enjoy heroclix, but im primarily a collector, the playing came second, and i love the game, but im all about going home with a prize. so if i cant use him to win, then i dont like him. except in the case of the cheezelord. i dislike him on principle.

[Dexceus]

You know, it is funny. Last week I won a tourney playing an army of (R) Blastaar, (R) Juggernaut, and (U) Mr. Fixit.

Mr. Fixit is a great fig that isn't just for 'fun' games.

[harles2000]

hmm, jugs blastarr and fixit. i wonder who was doing all the work in that army?

and how about this, try making a viable army out of these 8 figs - 200 pts

Mr. Fixit 104
Medusa 54
E Black Cat 32
E AIM Agent 13
E Human Torch 57?
E Elektra 22
ok, the other 2 i can remember, but i think its because they were that bad. which judging from this last, thats saying something

[PantherPriest]

I love fixit, he is fun, he is good, he'll fix you. He has a nifty hat! And he got me a nightcrawler, cool meats. He's a better rookie hulk for one extra point, with 2 clix of regen, a great power. Yay

[PantherPriest]

Medusa is 57

Human Torch is 59

[harles2000]

hey panther if fixit got you a nightcrawler, then theres some poor schmo whos kicking his own a** every time he thinks about that trade. and yes Mr. Fixit is mighty spiffy in his gangster getup. but if i wanted to collect halloween marvel figures i would have, instead of playing heroclix.

and to be honest, whats good about him? his AV? i dont think so.
his Leadership? - get a v kingpin for 60 pts or so less and do as much damage, have a better av and def with a team ability.

his leap/climb? get e black cat -pc, better move, same dam, higher av, and spider team.

his perplex? get v doc oc and own from a distance, push your little heart away, and get overlooked quite often.

his regen? get v logan or u wolvie more damage, higher av, stealth, flurry or charge(u wolvie) and several clicks of regen. all for about 30 to 44 pts less.

his 2 clicks of invuln? please, too many to list.

rebuttals?

[Dexceus]

Well, I am use to 300 point games, but I would go with the following from that list:

Mr. Fixit
Black Cat
Human Torch

And to answer your qeustion, it was pretty much an equal share between Jugs and Mr. Fixit. You gotta love perplex.

[harles2000]

thanks for correction - i dont have them all memorized and dont have my figs handy. i unfortunately cannot remember every point value and every click of every fig. if i could i would be a heck of alot better at this game.

and no im not flaming. so dont start on me lol

[Dexceus]

Originally posted by harles2000
hey panther if fixit got you a nightcrawler, then theres some poor schmo whos kicking his own a** every time he thinks about that trade. and yes Mr. Fixit is mighty spiffy in his gangster getup. but if i wanted to collect halloween marvel figures i would have, instead of playing heroclix.

and to be honest, whats good about him? his AV? i dont think so.
his Leadership? - get a v kingpin for 60 pts or so less and do as much damage, have a better av and def with a team ability.

his leap/climb? get e black cat -pc, better move, same dam, higher av, and spider team.

his perplex? get v doc oc and own from a distance, push your little heart away, and get overlooked quite often.

his regen? get v logan or u wolvie more damage, higher av, stealth, flurry or charge(u wolvie) and several clicks of regen. all for about 30 to 44 pts less.

his 2 clicks of invuln? please, too many to list.

rebuttals?


Yeah, all of those figs have those things, but they aren't all on the same fig and it would cost a lot more then 104 to get all of them.

[harles2000]

i tried that team. i pushed Fixit to try and get those perplex squares going and got smashed by an e thor right past all my goodness. from then on it was game over. no one left to hurt thor

and yes perplex is awesome - thats why im a fan of v doc oc.

[Dexceus]

Well, I am sorry it didn't work for you. Just because you can't get something to work does not mean it is bad figure.

It also doesn't mean you have to go whinning to the rest of the world about how it is such a bad figure and how it cost you a tournament.

[harles2000]

ok attempted flame noted. and ignored.

no it did not work, and against e or v thor and e thing couldnt really work as Mr. Fixit has to take at least 3 clicks before he can hurt them, torch will never hurt them, and black cat wishes she could hurt them.

yes i realize perplex could go miles for them, but the chance of being able to use it after getting hit for 6 with a heavy object? slim to none.

hes a spotty fig, like a swiss army knife, but with plastic tools. drop it and they break. dr. strange has this to an extent to, but is infinately more playable.

and if you consider this whining, maybe you should look up whining sometime. what i have done is lucidly and logically laid out my opinion of this particular figure for others to read and either agree with or disagree with. i dont feel that everyone has to agree with me, and i sure dont care if they like me, as long as my opinion is respected for being valid and with merit and for having been presented clearly.

now if my msg had been like "i hate mr fixit cause he sucks and i lost my tourney because of that" then sure, thats whining, complaining whatever - there is nothing constructive or with merit there.

[Dexceus]

You used the word poop in the subject line and it is logic, lucid and rational?

You use the word poop and turd through out the entire thread, and dismiss anyone who has a decent experience with what you are talking about and it is not whining?

You DID basicly say 'this figure is poop and it cost me a tournament'.

And no, there was in intention to flame what so ever. I am sorry you see it that way.

[The Stinger]

I agree with harles2000 on this.

Mr Fixit has his uses, but it seems that he cant make up his mind what he wants to do.

Am I a support figure?
Am I a Brawler?
or am I the guy who sits back, using leadership to direct traffic until I can make a difference?

the answer is.....All of the above, for a click or two.

Its just hard to plan a strategy with this guy. You get into position to do one thing, then you get ripped by the likes of Thor, and your plan goes up in smoke, leaving you scrambling to improvise and work something else out, all the while your opponent is salivating waiting to knock his block off next turn.

He's versatile, Ill give him that, but for 103 points he needs a bit more consistency to be considered a solid piece FOR MY TEAM. MY TEAM. I cant stress that enough. he could be the greatest figure around for someone else, but not for me. Just too unpredictable on his clix.

The team that harles was cursed with that night was partly to blame as well. Is he poop? Probably not, but I know he isnt a figure that I myself can have success with. I guess I cant plan that far ahead, Its a character flaw.

Fixit is like a mix of Doc Ock, Hulk, and Kingpin all rolled up into a 103 point mixture. Some rule the field with it, others like myself and harles2000 fall short with him.

I traded my Fixit for a Thanos.

[de4dp00l]

I would actually give Harles2000 a little credit Dexceus. In spite of his repeated uses of poop and turd, he hasn't been insulting or offensive toward anybody. A little immature, at worst. He's just decided that he doesn't like Fixit, and none of us are going to convince him otherwise. That's fine, he's entitled to his choice, and I'm done trying to convice him. It was a pretty half hearted effort on my part anyway, since I really don't care for the figure myself. I do feel that he has his uses, but for 104 points, I'd rather have a more reliable figure at my disposal.

[Spiritual_Ex]

Is that he didn't get the Outwit he should have had, and he got stuck the leadership (god only knows why, I read every one of the grey HULK issues...he was working alone in all of them).

I'll give you an example of why he should have had outwit. When fighting Thing, and getting his butt kicked might I add. He lured Thing into an underwater setting, squeezed the air out of THings lungs and jumped away, leaving thing to nearly drown. He did all sorts of cool stuff like this in those issues. He was an Outwitter if I ever saw one.

Anyway, that's my rant.

I still think he's a very decent model. Even against Thor or Thing, but your right, if Thor/Thing are given the opportunity to hit you with a heavy object he won't be in great shape. In your dase I would tried to soften them up at range (I can't remember if E Torch does 3 damage) and drop their damage at least 1 click, that way if you were to get hit you would still be put on one of your good clicks.

Hey, you might think he has very specialized uses, but I think he's great. Especially in larger games, i've found him to really do well when I can combine him with a second heavy hitter.

[Wileyone]

Lots of good comments from everyone and lots of laughs. Thanks! (even Gorrack...although, I was hoping to get a response from him).

Here's my 300pt, Fixin ta' Swarm team
(smaller version of the 400pt team)

U. Fixit ............104.....Leadership, Perplex, Clean up fighter
R. Bullseye.........26....9 attack, 10 range, 3 damage
R. Doombot........27....Copy free move and +1 to hit
V. Pyro...............42....9 attack, 10 range, 3 damage, free move
R. Doombot........27....Copy free move and +1 to hit
R. Scarlet Witch..29....Free Move, Prob control
R. QuickSilver.....18....Free Move, Long Move
R. Hydra Op.........9.....Tie-up and/or +1 to hit
R. Hydra Op.........9.....Tie-up and/or +1 to hit
R. Hydra Op.........9......Tie-up and/or +1 to hit

10 figures, 6 actions over 2 turns plus 5 free move figures and leadership.

10 figures have worked well for me in past 300pt games. Same general strategy as 400pt game but it may be more successful in the 300pt game. The 300pt game tends to really limit your opponent’s team if he includes big guns...which is to your advantage. The risky thing about this team Vs my other swarm teams is that you waste 4 figures on range combat. So, you have fewer tie-up figures. Perhaps, you can free up a Doombot if your shooters get into a good position? I guess it depends on what your opponent is playing. 5 tie-up figures may be enough. Do I dare make it 6 with Scarlet Witch?....Maybe, if necessary.

[melywely]

Mr fixit is poop. He cost way too much for what little he does. His defenses is just awfull. Personally the only way I would pick him up is to move him out of the way, so i could get to She-Hulk or Logan which are my favorite figures so far.

[Pontifex]

Originally posted by hulkamania85


#####, #####, #####, that's the only thing people do on these boards.

So I guess that makes your post perfectly on topic with the rest.

Hm, nice pot...nice kettle... play nice, you two...

[melywely]

HARLES2000 ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

[de4dp00l]

Originally posted by melywely
HARLES2000 ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

This is exactly the kind of useful and insightful post we need to see more of on the realms.:rolleyes:

[melywely]

he is sexy too. I will leave it at that.

[The Stinger]

I was looking at the swarm team, and I think Mr fixit could have his uses in a team like this.

Im just not big on the guys who change powers faster than they can blink. I need a little more consistency for my points..

Dr Strange comes to mind here, as well as Dr Doom. YOu basically have to memorize the dials in order to be able to plan ahead with a backup strategy, should they get cracked over the head on one of your turns.

If Im to spend 104, or 198 points on a guy, I need to know every part of what he can do, and above all that, WHEN THEY CAN DO IT, back to front. 87 for Dr Strange isnt as bad, but its still a big chunk of pointage.

I guess Im not a master strategist, I kinda stick to specialty pieces and build my teams from there. Figures that keep the same powers most of the dial, and lose them toward the end, or get stronger like Hulk or Blastaar.

I traded the multi-use fixit for Thanos, because I know what I have in Thanos. 185 points of straight ahead, In your face AV, along with some good damage and the longest dial you can get short of a big figure, 11 clix of life.

[harles2000]

ive been away for a few days and missed all kinds of good stuff.

as far as fixit is concerned youre right de4dp001 i will never like him and cant be convinced he is a good figure.

as far a immature with the poop/turd comments i probably could have used better wording, but i just couldnt think of anything nicer to say about the figure.

as to my opening line of "mr fixit = 104 pts of poop" - well you have to have a catchy opener if you want people to look at the post.


as far as swarm teams go, i dont know how to run one, and i cant seem to make myself try to use a bunch of one hit and youre dead figs, especially figs that have no special ability at all like hydra agents. im not saying it couldnt work, because im sure it can. ive just never seen a swarm team played and havent played one as i dont like to lose by attrition of little pieces every round or so.

and as far as melywely goes, thats my gf, please ignore her as she is a bit goofy, but she loves me, so its all good.

and lastly i have to admit, while i may be ok at team building, im not the best at long term strategy. i tend to think one or 2 moves at a time, and usually use the poor strategy of react to and foil my opponents intentions.


also i have to say that spiritual_ex hit right on the head what i was saying. that the figure doesnt really fit into the whole hulk concept. he is poop because he doesnt emulate the character he represents. he fails to accurately portray the hulk and on top of it is a limited use figure. he just doesnt have the consistant power to be a major player, and at over 1/3 of your standard tourney point cost, he is too expensive for his uses.

and im spent.

hope everyone had a good weekend.