Would a GL-themed name have been more appropriate for the DC 75th set? [Archive]

Superfly

01/13/2011, 20:50

Personally, I would have been more interested in this set and more likely to have pre-ordered a case of it had it been named "War of the Light" or something like that. Aren't there more "Lantern" characters in this set than any other sub-group, anyway? From a marketing standpoint, I think "DC 75th Anniversary" was a pretty uninspired choice for the set name. Though the set does seem to be selling just fine, regardless. ;)

Lord Logan

01/13/2011, 20:55

No. The Lanterns aren't the only characters in it and they did do the "throughout the ages" thing well. I DO want them to make a War of Light so badly! I WANT MY LANTERNS!!!

indymark13

01/13/2011, 20:56

MEsch1974

01/13/2011, 20:58

DC75's stuff does read: "Featuring the White Lantern Corps"... Blackest Night/ Brightest Day was what was in currency for DC's titles. Makes sense; honoring where DC had been, featuring its recent, critically acclaimed event in the books.

happyoptimistic88

01/13/2011, 21:01

pokolo

01/13/2011, 21:04

probably because there are a lot of iconic dc characters missing (joker, lex luthor, darkseid, catwoman, lobo, etc.)

indymark13

01/13/2011, 21:13

probably because there are a lot of iconic dc characters missing (joker, lex luthor, darkseid, catwoman, lobo, etc.) Exactly. (Catwoman cough, cough, wink, wink)

Nitecralwer24

01/13/2011, 21:24

there were perhaps the same number of lanterns as old-school characters. but the all-stars seemed forced, as opposed to the crowd-pleasing corps members.

Megatreky

01/13/2011, 22:08

I think that they should not have included most of the lantern in this set and have had a War of Light set next with all lanterns.

mikeinmke

01/13/2011, 22:14

i, too, find this set's name an example of false advertising. Besides the iconic figures mentioned above that are missing (Joker, Catwoman, Robin, Lex Luthor, etc), there are no Legionnaires in the set (no, Superboy doesn't really count) -- and the Legion has been a part of DC's pantheon for 15 times longer than the silly rainbow lantern corps...

Glen Quagmire

01/13/2011, 22:30

Well, it's not like they could have waited to use DC75 on the next set. :cheeky: Whereas they can still come back and do a GL/War of Light set in the future. And yes, there's still plenty that can be done with that.

Most of the lanterns in the set were overdue anyhow because of the one-year layoff. People were looking for Atrocitus and Larfleeze in B&B and/or the Blackest Night starter.

maddragon13

01/13/2011, 22:44

Without a doubt it should have been more appropriate. The majority of the set is based of the GL storylines. The DC 75th celebration is more of a sub-theme to the set.

DrugSex

01/13/2011, 22:48

I'm not agree with the "White Lantern" oriented name but no so much with the DC75 either.

wolverine00123

01/13/2011, 23:14

I voted yes. I think there is too much focus on lantern corps for this to ba named dc75. I love this set and all the diffferent variations of the lanterns and would not pass it up. But the name is very misrepresented.

MattPetersen

01/13/2011, 23:16

Without a doubt it should have been more appropriate. The majority of the set is based of the GL storylines. The DC 75th celebration is more of a sub-theme to the set.

Only 25% of the set is GL themed, and if you want to count the White Lanterns (which I don't since they were just repaints and a sub set that was extra) it would still only be 35% of the set. Hardly a majority.

Fans have been clamoring for the different corps members, and the set DID span the ages. Heck I got a freaking Warlord FINALLY!!
I have a feeling the next set will be Legion/Superman heavy so that's why we did not get much in the way of the Legionaires and Supes villains.

brevard321

01/14/2011, 00:00

Yeah, much like the as of yet unseen Marvel 70th Anniversary Action Pack, they would only get one chance to use DC 75th.

I liked the title DC 75th, and I liked seeing stuff like Sgt. Rock, Solovar, and the missing JSA characters. :)

The Lanterns are all a plus, and I do think sales would have been a LOT lower without the White Lanterns.

Kamakura

01/14/2011, 00:47

Set names in this game can be annoyingly misleading. I prefer the more generic set names like 75th or sets like HoT that are very focused.

Sharkbite

01/14/2011, 02:30

"DC 75th Anniversary" inspired in me images of the most important characters over the course of the past 75 years, with a sub-set of some Golden Age stuff and maybe a figure or two from each of the big crossover events. I imagined this set as revolving around people who've been in 1000+ issues.

DC75 had more Lanterns than Golden Age figures. DC75 had more Lanterns than what I would have called "longevity characters" (no Lex Luthor :angry:). DC75 is a great set and I'm glad I went with a case, but it is yet another example of an ambiguous name not telling us much about the set. We need to have a decent idea of the setlist prior to pre-orders if we are going to make the difference between ordering a couple bricks or a couple cases.

Set sell-outs are becoming more commonplace as NECA streamlines production to avoid huge surpluses like Hypertime and Icons had. Simotaniously many customers felt burned by experiences like Brave & Bold or Watchmen where they pre-ordered expensive orders only to find a disappointing setlist and little resale value on the secondary market. The set name is not sufficient and NECA could have produced and sold much more DC75 at a profit had they more properly informed buyers of the content.

Give us setlists.

SevenBlueSeven

01/14/2011, 03:29

Being that there were two major themes in this set: it would have been better if we had two whole different sets than one.

I would have preferred this instead of having only one set. I believe that by combining both sets we lost slots to represent both anniversary characters from DC's history as well as the ability to better represent the lantern corps of blackest night and brightest day.

WK please don't do this again.

jra_fritid

01/14/2011, 03:42

As others have pointed out the title comes from having a 75th Anniversary. The set does include figures like Bane from Knightfall and Doomsday from Death of Superman.

The All Star Squadron figures, Golden Age Batman, Golden/Silver Age Superman, Captain Comet going back to the Silver Age Strange Adventures and the 52 and Mystery in Space titles also is quite important to DC history.

Warlord, Mera and Aquaman, Isis and Osiris and also Wonder Twins and Gleek may seem a bit odd at first but they have all been part of the DC history.

Even the Dominators from the 1980s Invasion event, Easy Company and Solovar with his Gorilla City Warrior have been part of DC history as well.

Teen Titans and young Justice are from the 2000s with BB Damian Wayne and Cyborg, Raven, Starfire needing remakes.

Sure the set set is very heavy on White Lanterns and other Lantern Corps factions. But they are also part of a more recent DC history with the building event from Green Lantern: Rebirth.

The set could have included more historic figures like Bane and Doomsday and have been glutted White Lantern Corps Super Rares/Chase.

The Flash and Green Lantern, Superman and Flash and even some of the other BB duos could have been in this set.

BB and AN really reminds me somehow of LG and UN and after AN I tend to see these two sets as a whole.

michiganj24

01/14/2011, 04:23

If they had people would merely have claimed what are people like Crimson Avenger, Warlord, Mera, The Wonder Twins and Gorilla City doing in it

T. Paul Stiles

01/14/2011, 06:04

If this set were named as a Green Lantern set, I'd be sorely disappointed. I'd expect much more Lantern content if it were named after Green Lantern.

checkeredman

01/14/2011, 09:03

Hellboy

01/14/2011, 09:22

It should have been called "Green Lantern's Light"

Hellboy

01/14/2011, 09:25

Personally I'm sick-to-death of the stupid lanterns and all their Rainbow Brite/Care Bear colors in clix, comics, or otherwise. Can't wait for this horrible idea to run its course and get retconned...

you're right... you can't wait for that... because it'll never happen.

cool down and fade into the background? yes... get retconned away? not for at least 15 years when the next Universe resetting Crisis rocks the DCU, and probably not even then... more likely that at that point it will be more deeply ingrained.

IceHot

01/14/2011, 10:01

Every character is from some time within DC75 years of history be it the first decade, the last, or anywhere in between.

I cant find fault with the Set Title!

Clclix

01/14/2011, 10:12

I don't think DC 75th is an appropriate name, but I also don't think it Green Lantern Would have been a good theme, since there are actually only 5 GREEN LANTERNS in the set. Nor do I think War of Light or some other theme would have been approptiate, but man, was it close...

26 if the characters in the 76 character DC 75th set have Lantern ties (I am not counting Alan Scott because he simply does not apply here) thats 34% of the set, leaving the rest of the set to another theme. Its a good chunk, While any number of the characters in the set have general history. It feels more like a catch all name for the set, but I guess that applies.

In WoS, 40 of the 70 characters had extreme direct ties with Spider-Man, and I was picky on my associations. That's 57% of the set, making it a heavy Spider-Man themed set.

I would easily say well over half the set in GSX will be X-Men themed, we can already say that from what we know about the Super Boosters (1 Super Booster is Nextwave, the rest are all X-Men character themed).

These are the two NECA only sets (HoT and BatB still were MOSTLY made by the previous regime) we have to go on.

Gorodish

01/14/2011, 10:34

Somewhere over the rainbow...

batman1970

01/14/2011, 10:44

I don't think there is any thing wrong with naming a set DC 75th Anniversary, but it should have focused more on the heritage of DC then the Lantern Corps. Either way DC 75 is still a pretty kick-@$$ set.

I'm with indymark. I am disappointed they shorted some of the history of DC to accomodate all the Lanterns. I love the Lanterns, but wish they had been the next set...with more Lanterns. This set should have had more Golden Age and Silver Age characters. I would've loved to have seen a new Catwoman (purple and green), Hawkman (Carter Hall with yellow ski mask), Red Tornado (original red and purple android), Sir Justin, etc. This was also their opportunity to include a few really obscure older villains (thinking, Mr. Zero, scientist Luthor, etc.) that may never have another opportunity to be "clixed". That's what I like about the Icemaiden LE. Even though she isn't a great piece, she is cool since you will probably NEVER see her again in clix form. A few of those types of figures would've been nice.

Grumpygoat

01/14/2011, 11:11

No. Even counting every figure in the set, the Lanterns still don't make up even half of it. Meanwhile, some of the Lanterns still qualify under the DC 75 subheading and there are a good chunk of characters who are highly representative of the various comic ages - Alan Scott Golden, Barry Allen Silver, Green Arrow Bronze (yeah, yeah - Golden Age originally, shut it, I know), Doomsday and Bane Iron Age, and so on.

csi

01/14/2011, 11:18

Grumpygoat

01/14/2011, 11:25

what is the point of this poll? Wizkids isn't going to go back and change the name of the set or take back some of your lanterns and give you other figures. Isn't it time to move on and just enjoy the set, or look forward to the upcoming X-men set?

"If you could go back in time and shoot Hitler, would you?"

Pointless questions make the world go round.

Thrumble Funk

01/14/2011, 11:30

"If you could go back in time and shoot Hitler, would you?"

Pointless questions make the world go round.

Shoot him? Nah. The backfire of a fine bolt-action rifle would probably send me sprawling.

Shoot him a MENACING GLARE? Absolutely. :angry:

neilr1

01/14/2011, 11:49

Voted no. I love the lantern characters in the set and the WL sub-set, but I also love the Golden age pieces, the Secret 6, the anti-trinity and... BARRY ALLEN.

I am sure there will be a couple of lanterns next set, and maybe a larger theme after that...

ccs

01/14/2011, 14:01

Oh I think the name of the set was just fine. And it was very appropriate timewise.
75 years of DC Comics? That IS something to celebrate.

What I think should've been addressed a bit more closely was making sure the set truely celebrated the width & breadth of DC history.
Part of the problem was its very heavy Lantern theme.
Another part of the problem was the re-use of sculpts. Sure that saves some $. But it just furthers the impression that sets lopsided A) in favor of Lanterns, B) in favor of "Modern" age characters/stories.

And then there's the re-use of the Aquaman & Osiris sculpts we got in BD.
Aquaman? Sure, you'd expect him in a set claiming to cover 75 years of comics history. But Osiris? Again? Really?? That pushing it when there's such an endless queu of characters yet to be made....
But the biggest thing with these 2? If they can reuse these decent sculpts why can't they dust off better sculpts for others?? Like Superman.

mkweaver

01/15/2011, 09:02

I the name was fine. If you take out the WL super-duper rares, then 16 of 66 are basically lantern-related, so that's about a quarter; while that is a large minority, it is not the majority.

You can count the super-duper rares if you lean towards being more of a completist (like I tend to be) but I don't think they make or break the theme in the same way that a team of Freedom Fighters could be put in a super booster for a set named, Atlantis Rising or something...

Ah well. Thanks for reading!