Birds of Exile Mafia [Archive]

sstralkowski

01/20/2011, 12:28

Here's a link (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2969347&postcount=1) to an old list of rules. Nothing much has changed.

In keeping with the whole Six theme, the Mafia is based on the Sinister Six. The town consists of some of the Birds of Prey characters who survived the first game (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=295002) as well as some Marvel reruits and a few randoms. The official alignment is "BoE".

Introduction (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5267636&postcount=2)
Day 1 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5270335&postcount=336)
Night 1 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5275942&postcount=337)
Day 2 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5278890&postcount=674)
Night 2 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5282794&postcount=675)
Day 3 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5284292&postcount=878)
Night 3 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5288403&postcount=879)
Day 4 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5291261&postcount=1017)
Night 4 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5295441&postcount=1019)
Day 5 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5297028&postcount=1145)
Night 5 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5298507&postcount=1146)
Day 6 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5301215&postcount=1359)
Night 6 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5305269&postcount=1360)
Day 7 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5307461&postcount=1516)
Night 7 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5310965&postcount=1517)
Day 8 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5313020&postcount=1629)
Night 8 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5316331&postcount=1630)
Day 9 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5318198&postcount=1741)
Night 9 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5319965&postcount=1742)
Day 10 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5321101&postcount=1774)
Night 10 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5323672&postcount=1775)
Day 11 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5326128&postcount=1817)
Roles (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5326130&postcount=1818)

Birds of Exile: WINNERS (5)
batfink (formerly Song of Ice and Fire) - Oracle - BoE
get_1 - Mr. Pajamas - Neutral
Kedryn - Diamondback - BoE
Magnito - Marrow & Shadowcat - BoE
Malakim2099 - Booster Gold & Spiderman - BoE

Honorable Mention:
Captain Nifty - Fer deLance & Black Racer - Serpent Society
HavokAndChaos - Asp & Black Mamba - Serpent Society
Silver Lantern - Anaconda & Coachwhip - Serpent Society

Fowled:
Aegon Targaryen - Joker & Harley - The Sinister
batfink - Blink & Nocturne - BoE
charlesx - Doctor Octopus & The Lizard - The Sinister
ChiRocker - Elektra & Silver Sable - BoE
Cornucopia - Iceman & Firestar - BoE
DarqFeonix - Howard the Duck - BoE
dbauers - Kraven & Rhino - The Sinister
deadshot042 - Sandman & Hydroman - The Sinister
goodman - ???
Grinner - ???
Immortal_Raven - Mojo & Spiral - Neutral
JacinB - ???
JackofHeart2005 - Storm & Rogue - BoE
Kedryn - Diamondback - BoE
mbauers - Mysterio & Venom - The Sinister
MSU - Huntress & Zinda - BoE
Ouchmaker - Vulture & Scorpion - The Sinister
PaxZRake - MJ & Black Cat - BoE
Quebbster - hobgoblin & Electro - The Sinister
Truffle Shuffle (formerly viciousbuddha) - ???
Vevilaughs - Ms. Marvel & She-Hulk - BoE

Alternates: (1)
Mr Stranger

sstralkowski

01/20/2011, 12:29

Introduction:

The small group of heroes huddled in their lair to lick their wounds and mourn the loss of their fallen companions. The war had taken its toll on all parties involved, and they needed time to heal their mental, physical and emotional wounds. But the life of a hero leaves no time for such things. A flash of light left a short balding man in a suit standing in front of them. He explained that a reality existed where a number of villains had taken over a major city. These villains had managed to kill off any hero who attacked or posed a threat to them, and they were on the brink of world domination. Then the short man's voice went silent mid sentence. A look of confusion came over his face before he disappeared altogether. The heroes exchanged various looks.

Minutes later, the room was washed in a bright pink light that slowly faded. When the heroes' eyes adjusted they realized they were in a strange pink castle seemingly made of crystal. A long haired man covered in paint and blood was slumped in a chair in front of a console. His head was adorned with a tribal band and his wrist encapsulated by a large gold bracelet with a hefty red gem in the center. The man gasped for air as he rapidly explained that the short man was merely a projection and that he was the puppeteer behind it. He was hoping to conserve his energy by transporting these heroes directly to the world he'd described, but the palace was in need of repair after an attack by a bald lunatic. He'd only barely made it back from the Sinister reality with his life. He hurriedly asked them to help boost the ranks of the dwindling hero population in an effort to thwart these Sinister villains. Sadly, he expired before they could agree to help. sstralkowski is dead. He was Forge.

After a few hours of chaos, the group figured out how to perform the palace's most basic functions. The spectacled woman addressed the team. "Look, we don't really know what we're walking into, but we've been behind the eight ball before. As long as we stick together, we'll be fine. Now I think I've figured out how to send you all to this reality that guy told us about. I want this to be a quick mission. I beam you down there, you kick butt, and we all go home. Of course that's provided I can figure out how to make that happen." *sigh* The woman tapped away at the alien computer with a furrowed brow for a few seconds before looking up. "Be safe, guys. I'll keep in touch."

And with that, the band of injured heroes disappeared again and reappeared in the middle of a war torn city where their field leader was grabbed and urged to quickly hide the group. "Follow me," the stranger whispered as they all vanished into the shadows.

sstralkowski

01/20/2011, 13:14

With 28 players, 15 is a majority.

You have 24 hours to accomplish something or someone dies.

malakim2099

01/20/2011, 13:16

Just because it's been a while...

Vote: JacinB

Missed ya big guy! :)

Aegon Targaryen

01/20/2011, 13:18

Vote malakim

Oh damn, nevermind he is here. I'll wait till he is at work

unvote

malakim2099

01/20/2011, 13:19

Vote malakim

Oh damn, nevermind he is here. I'll wait till he is at work

unvote

BUAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!

MSU

01/20/2011, 13:22

Can't we just assume that Malakim is ALWAYS mafia? I mean, 50% of the time we should be right, right? :p

ChiRocker

01/20/2011, 13:23

Vote Mal (this is for the Twilight joke vote, since I couldn't back in that game... since you weren't playing :devious:)

Aegon Targaryen

01/20/2011, 13:23

Can't we just assume that Malakim is ALWAYS mafia? I mean, 50% of the time we should be right, right? :p

As a personal rule, if mala lives past N1... he is mafia

MSU

01/20/2011, 13:24

As a personal rule, if mala lives past N1... he is mafia

I mean, if he is mafia 50% of the time, then 50% of the time, we are right 100%.

You can't beat those odds - 100%!!!

Aegon Targaryen

01/20/2011, 13:26

I mean, if he is mafia 50% of the time, then 50% of the time, we are right 100%.

You can't beat those odds - 100%!!!

I think we need a new entry to the mafia glossary...

MSU's Certainty Principal has a nice ring to it.

Quebbster

01/20/2011, 13:27

Yay, new game!

...

Totally random vote: Song of Ice and Fire

Aegon Targaryen

01/20/2011, 13:29

I guess it wouldn't be day one if I didn't...

Vote Darqles

malakim2099

01/20/2011, 13:29

Vote Mal (this is for the Twilight joke vote, since I couldn't back in that game... since you weren't playing :devious:)

Oh boo hoo hoo. :cheeky:

Vote: ChiRocker for having no sense of humor. ;)

And btw, I am town. Want me to claim now and get it over with?

MSU

01/20/2011, 13:30

I think we need a new entry to the mafia glossary...

MSU's Certainty Principal has a nice ring to it.

I want to be remembered in this historic moment - when people mention MSU's Certainty Principal, you will know that you were here when it happened.

sstralkowski

01/20/2011, 13:31

Vote Count:

Chi: (1) mal
mal: (1) Chi
Song: (1) Quebbs
Darq: (1) Aegon

With 28 players, 15 is a majority.

You have 24 hours to accomplish something or someone dies.

MSU

01/20/2011, 13:35

Oh boo hoo hoo. :cheeky:

Vote: ChiRocker for having no sense of humor. ;)

And btw, I am town. Want me to claim now and get it over with?

I know what this is..... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piVnArp9ZE0&feature=related)

Quebbster

01/20/2011, 13:37

I guess it wouldn't be day one if I didn't...

Vote Darqles
You'll have some company - Grinner is playing and Hatut is not.

HavokAndChaos

01/20/2011, 13:44

I know what this is..... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piVnArp9ZE0&feature=related)

Dam, I just got Admiral Ackbarred.

Aegon Targaryen

01/20/2011, 13:46

Dam, I just got Admiral Ackbarred.

So did I..

May the fleas of one thousand camels infest your armpits MSU! :angry:

ChiRocker

01/20/2011, 13:48

Dam, I just got Admiral Ackbarred.

So did I..

May the fleas of one thousand camels infest your armpits MSU! :angry:

Eh, he just hates me because I modkilled him once.
I know you don't really hate me... right?

Immortal_Raven

01/20/2011, 14:00

Vote: mbauers

Last person to kill me in another game.

MSU

01/20/2011, 14:00

Eh, he just hates me because I modkilled him once.
I know you don't really hate me... right?

This is how I really feel... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piVnArp9ZE0)

goodman

01/20/2011, 14:06

lynch MSU

because no one saw it coming

JacinB

01/20/2011, 14:07

Vote: MSU.

Because, based on MSU's uncertainty principle, there's a 100% chance that he might be 50% mafia. Or something like that.

ChiRocker

01/20/2011, 14:09

I thought it was: 50% of the time, it works every time =]
I know it was really 60, but I felt it best to stay within context

MSU

01/20/2011, 14:15

I thought it was: 50% of the time, it works every time =]
I know it was really 60, but I felt it best to stay within context

This only applies to Malakim2099.

The MSU Certainty Principle has not been tested with other players.

505 of the time, we are 100% right about malakim2099 being Mafia.

LOOK AT THE ODDS!

JacinB

01/20/2011, 14:15

I thought it was: 50% of the time, it works every time =]
I know it was really 60, but I felt it best to stay within context
Well, then ...

Remove vote.

MSU

01/20/2011, 14:15

lynch MSU

because no one saw it coming

Still bitter that I framed you in Wade's game, eh? :laugh:

(I cannot believe I didn't get more kudos for that game!)

Magnito

01/20/2011, 14:17

Lynch MSU

Revenge from the last game.

sstralkowski

01/20/2011, 14:25

Vote Count:

Chi: (1) mal
mal: (1) Chi
Song: (1) Quebbs
Darq: (1) Aegon
mbauers: (1) IR
MSU: (2) goodman, Mags

With 28 players, 15 is a majority.

You have 24 hours to accomplish something or someone dies.

MSU

01/20/2011, 14:28

Lynch MSU

Revenge from the last game.

If I recall, you were mafia as well. You just didn't know it.

Magnito

01/20/2011, 14:33

If I recall, you were mafia as well. You just didn't know it.
Birds of Prey? No, I was Munhunter. And you lynched me while I was in Paris.

goodman

01/20/2011, 14:33

(I cannot believe I didn't get more kudos for that game!)

because we were all still sore about it! hehe

nah, i just thought no-one else had voted for you.....yet

DarqFeonix

01/20/2011, 14:34

Lynch: PaxZRake

He probably knows all the roles anyway

sstralkowski

01/20/2011, 14:36

Vote Count:

Chi: (1) mal
mal: (1) Chi
Song: (1) Quebbs
Darq: (1) Aegon
mbauers: (1) IR
MSU: (2) goodman, Mags
Pax: (1) Darq

With 28 players, 15 is a majority.

You have 24 hours to accomplish something or someone dies.

viciousbuddha

01/20/2011, 14:36

Birds of Prey? No, I was Munhunter. And you lynched me while I was in Paris.

Lynch: Magnito

I've never been to paris :cry:

viciousbuddha

01/20/2011, 14:37

Birds of Prey? No, I was Munhunter. And you lynched me while I was in Paris.

or did you mean Hilton? if so, then everyones been there...

sstralkowski

01/20/2011, 14:37

Vote Count:

Chi: (1) mal
mal: (1) Chi
Song: (1) Quebbs
Darq: (1) Aegon
mbauers: (1) IR
MSU: (2) goodman, Mags
Pax: (1) Darq
mags: (1) VB

With 28 players, 15 is a majority.

You have 24 hours to accomplish something or someone dies.

MSU

01/20/2011, 14:40

or did you mean Hilton? if so, then everyones been there...

Not me!

(gross)

MSU

01/20/2011, 14:41

Birds of Prey? No, I was Munhunter. And you lynched me while I was in Paris.

Blame the person who pushed you or switched you....

Not my fault you were framed by someone else!

Magnito

01/20/2011, 14:42

Blame the person who pushed you or switched you....

Not my fault you were framed by someone else!
It's more the fact that I was out of town. That's just bad form.

Immortal_Raven

01/20/2011, 14:43

or did you mean Hilton? if so, then everyones been there...

Some of us do have standards.

Aegon Targaryen

01/20/2011, 14:45

It's more the fact that I was out of town. That's just bad form.

must have had alot of whine in paris :classic:

MSU

01/20/2011, 14:52

must have had alot of whine in paris :classic:

I hear French whine is some of the best...

deadshot042

01/20/2011, 14:53

Checking in.
Looks like day one for the sequel will be just as productive as the original. :p

MSU

01/20/2011, 14:53

It's more the fact that I was out of town. That's just bad form.

Not when the evidence is there. Mafia is mafia. You were framed - blame them for framing you, not for me following their trail.

sstralkowski

01/20/2011, 14:54

Checking in.
Looks like day one for the sequel will be just as productive as the original. :p

One might call it reproductive.

DarqFeonix

01/20/2011, 14:57

I'm on Team MSU.

Mags' lynch was completely valid in that game. Just cause someone isn't online doesn't mean they get a pass from a copping.

Aegon Targaryen

01/20/2011, 15:00

I'm on Team MSU.

Mags' lynch was completely valid in that game. Just cause someone isn't online doesn't mean they get a pass from a copping.

Goddamnit now I have to agree with darq on something..

TEAM MSU

Immortal_Raven

01/20/2011, 15:00

Eh, I was jealous because I've never been to Europe. And I was mafia last game, so anyone dying who isn't on my team is kind of the point.

MSU

01/20/2011, 15:00

Goddamnit now I have to agree with darq on something..

TEAM MSU

It burns a little, doesn't it? :laugh:

MSU

01/20/2011, 15:02

Eh, I was jealous because I've never been to Europe. And I was mafia last game, so anyone dying who isn't on my team is kind of the point.

So you framed Magnito?

DarqFeonix

01/20/2011, 15:03

It burns a little, doesn't it? :laugh:

Don't worry, some penicillin will clear it right up.

Grinner

01/20/2011, 15:03

I guess it wouldn't be day one if I didn't...

Vote Darqles
You'll have some company - Grinner is playing and Hatut is not.

When Quebs is right, Quebs is right :grin:

Lynch: DF

lynch MSU

because no one saw it coming

But you can't lynch MSU - he's Oracle! :laugh:

I'm on Team MSU.

Mags' lynch was completely valid in that game. Just cause someone isn't online doesn't mean they get a pass from a copping.

If not being online meant you wouldn't be lynched we wouldn't have Grinner's Lament or Mal's Malady.

Immortal_Raven

01/20/2011, 15:06

change vote: Darqfeonix

I'll withdraw it if you open Joss Whedon.

DarqFeonix

01/20/2011, 15:08

If not being online meant you wouldn't be lynched we wouldn't have Grinner's Lament or Mal's Malady.

Mal's M'lady? (http://www.entil2001.com/series/firefly/season1dvd/ff1-6p9.jpg)

/nottooobscure

viciousbuddha

01/20/2011, 15:10

Some of us do have standards.

LIES!!!

Lynch: IM

malakim2099

01/20/2011, 15:27

Mal's M'lady? (http://www.entil2001.com/series/firefly/season1dvd/ff1-6p9.jpg)

/nottooobscure

I wish she were. :cheeky:

Anyway, I have to Change Vote: MSU not for the comic efforts of painting me as always scum, nor for Magnito's vendetta, but for the fact he couldn't spell "Principle". :p

I have standards.

Very few.

That I tend to ignore when convenient. BUT THEY ARE THERE!

MSU

01/20/2011, 15:28

But you can't lynch MSU - he's Oracle! :laugh:

And I would have gotten away with it too if it hadn't been for those pesky kids!

MSU

01/20/2011, 15:29

I wish she were. :cheeky:

Anyway, I have to Change Vote: MSU not for the comic efforts of painting me as always scum, nor for Magnito's vendetta, but for the fact he couldn't spell "Principle". :p

I have standards.

Very few.

That I tend to ignore when convenient. BUT THEY ARE THERE!

I stand by the MCP - vote:malakim2099

If not now, when? If not mal, who?

Immortal_Raven

01/20/2011, 15:32

change vote:viciousbuddha

For not having standards.

MSU

01/20/2011, 15:34

change vote:viciousbuddha

For not having standards.

But what about principles?

Silver Lantern

01/20/2011, 15:34

Checking in, lets hope I do as well in this game as in the last one.

MSU

01/20/2011, 15:42

Checking in, lets hope I do as well in this game as in the last one.

I know what this is.... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNLuq0lW50k&feature=related)

goodman

01/20/2011, 15:43

And I would have gotten away with it too if it hadn't been for those pesky kids!

that is the price you pay for killing Nightwing, the coolest of all the bat people!

MSU

01/20/2011, 15:45

that is the price you pay for killing Nightwing, the coolest of all the bat people!

Technically I never killed you - I was one vote on a lynch.

Magnito killed deadshot.

Tyro killed Silver.

Technically, I only really killed Song.

batfink

01/20/2011, 15:50

Lynch Rokk
avoid the N1 kill

goodman

01/20/2011, 15:50

well you still instigated it hehe

revunge will be had, and i'm not vanilla this time around muwhahaha

Quebbster

01/20/2011, 15:56

Lynch Rokk
avoid the N1 kill

Change vote: batfink
Not the time for jokes like that.

JacinB

01/20/2011, 15:59

Lynch Goodman.

For not being vanilla and having an evil laugh.

Vevilaughs

01/20/2011, 16:05

checking in

MSU

01/20/2011, 16:10

checking in

You all know what this is, right?

DarqFeonix

01/20/2011, 16:11

You all know what this is, right?

Scum tell? :noid:

Jackofhearts2005

01/20/2011, 16:15

Scum tell? :noid:

Yeah but voting for someone randomly, voting for someone as a joke and not talking at all are also scum tells and that covers just about everybody.

MSU

01/20/2011, 16:16

Scum tell? :noid: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piVnArp9ZE0&feature=related)

You bet your sweet bippy....

JacinB

01/20/2011, 16:19

You all know what this is, right?

Scum tell? :noid:
I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking that.

I'll start.

Change vote: Vevillaughs.

ChiRocker

01/20/2011, 16:21

Yeah but voting for someone randomly, voting for someone as a joke and not talking at all are also scum tells and that covers just about everybody.

I had completely legitimate reasons for voting for mal.

HavokAndChaos

01/20/2011, 16:33

I am way to easily amused. Jacin ended his post with "evil laugh." and the next person to post was "Vevilaughs"

charlesx

01/20/2011, 16:33

Mal's M'lady? (http://www.entil2001.com/series/firefly/season1dvd/ff1-6p9.jpg)

/nottooobscure

Bless you for posting a pic of Our Mrs Reynolds. That is one hawt evil woman.

And therefore out of Mal's league. Sorry, Mal, old chum.:cool:

charlesx

01/20/2011, 16:35

As for the lynch....

Vote to lynch: MSU.

It is his birthday, after all.

(Happy 40th Birthday, MSU!!:laugh:)

mbauers

01/20/2011, 16:38

Vote: Vevilaughs for the lolz

batfink

01/20/2011, 16:44

Yeah but voting for someone randomly, voting for someone as a joke and not talking at all are also scum tells and that covers just about everybody.

Remove vote
Diagraming all the scum tells is a scum tell.
Vote JOH

MSU

01/20/2011, 16:57

As for the lynch....

Vote to lynch: MSU.

It is his birthday, after all.

(Happy 40th Birthday, MSU!!:laugh:)

It isn't my birthday.....if it is, send me PRESENTS!!!

get_1

01/20/2011, 17:05

Oh boo hoo hoo. :cheeky:

Vote: ChiRocker for having no sense of humor. ;)

And btw, I am town. Want me to claim now and get it over with?

Granted I'm on page 1, but if you are so willing to do so on Day 1 then you should just go ahead.

get_1

01/20/2011, 17:16

You all know what this is, right?

Scum tell? :noid:

I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking that.

I'll start.

Change vote: Vevillaughs.

Interesting exchange...

JacinB

01/20/2011, 17:23

Interesting exchange...
Don't forget MSU betting Darq's sweet bippy and mbauers hopping on the train for the lolz.

goodman

01/20/2011, 17:27

As for the lynch....

Vote to lynch: MSU.

It is his birthday, after all.

(Happy 40th Birthday, MSU!!:laugh:)

coulda sworn it was his 45th :laugh:

get_1

01/20/2011, 17:28

Don't forget MSU betting Darq's sweet bippy and mbauers hopping on the train for the lolz.

You're in this game? Whaaaaaaaaaaaat? Is malakim2099 in here too?

JacinB

01/20/2011, 17:33

You're in this game? Whaaaaaaaaaaaat? Is malakim2099 in here too?
You quoted me and didn't notice I was here? :confused:

And, yes, mal's here. He voted for me in the first vote of the day as a "welcome back." So far, we're both still alive (though, given MSU's certainty thingamabob, mal's 100% mafia* so I'm sure that'll change tonight :cheeky:).

* - 50% of the time.

mbauers

01/20/2011, 17:36

Don't forget MSU betting Darq's sweet bippy and mbauers hopping on the train for the lolz.

Doing things for the lolz = mafia tell, fyi.

get_1

01/20/2011, 17:42

You quoted me and didn't notice I was here? :confused:

And, yes, mal's here. He voted for me in the first vote of the day as a "welcome back." So far, we're both still alive (though, given MSU's certainty thingamabob, mal's 100% mafia* so I'm sure that'll change tonight :cheeky:).

* - 50% of the time.

You know that you just set up a no-win scenario for the both of you, right? :cheeky:

Aegon Targaryen

01/20/2011, 17:45

stan is going to have a seizure from doing the vote count

viciousbuddha

01/20/2011, 17:45

But what about principles?

I've learned to live without them :grin:

viciousbuddha

01/20/2011, 17:46

Lynch: Get

I almost forgot he was in this game, thus he's mafia

get_1

01/20/2011, 17:47

Yeah, it has been a while since I've played in a game. Nice to see the target on my back hasn't been removed yet. :p

JacinB

01/20/2011, 17:52

You know that you just set up a no-win scenario for the both of you, right? :cheeky:
Let's be honest: I'm going to die tonight anyway. That's just how these things go for me*. According to MSU, mal is inevitably mafia** so he'll likely get lynched while giving whatever roleclaim he was willing to give today. So neither of us are going to win anyway. :noid:

* - Unless Rokk is in the game to take the bullet for me, which he isn't.
** - Or not, depending on whether he is.

DarqFeonix

01/20/2011, 17:53

Jacin, put an avatar up. Only get_1 should be avatar-free.

JacinB

01/20/2011, 17:54

Doing things for the lolz = mafia tell, fyi.
Pointing out your own mafia tells is a mafia tell, thus you've got two checkmarks beside your name in my head.

JacinB

01/20/2011, 17:56

Jacin, put an avatar up. Only get_1 should be avatar-free.
Now listen here, I'll have you know that I've been avatar free since 2006. Or, 2009. Or whenever my subscription ran out.

deadshot042

01/20/2011, 17:59

Doing things for the lolz = mafia tell, fyi.

Wait... everyone on this thread is mafia?

Jackofhearts2005

01/20/2011, 17:59

Remove vote
Diagraming all the scum tells is a scum tell.
Vote JOH

Come back when you mean it. ;)

JacinB

01/20/2011, 18:08

Wait... everyone on this thread is mafia?
Yes and no.

Following Schroedinger, one might argue that everyone in a mafia game exists in a state in which they are both simultaneously mafia and town, until such time as their box is opened and their true existential state is revealed.

sstralkowski

01/20/2011, 18:09

Vote Count:

MSU: (2) mal, charles
mal: (2) Chi, MSU
batfink: (1) Quebbs
Darq: (2) Aegon, Grinner
MSU: (2) goodman, Mags
Pax: (1) Darq
get: (1) VB
VB: (1) IR
Vevil: (2) Jacin, mbauers
JoH: (1) batfink

With 28 players, 15 is a majority.

You have 24 hours to accomplish something or someone dies.

JacinB

01/20/2011, 18:13

Vote Count:

mbauers: (1) IR
VB: (1) IR

Should we assume that's a mistake, or that it was purposeful that IR got two votes on different people?

MSU

01/20/2011, 18:16

Should we assume that's a mistake, or that it was purposeful that IR got two votes on different people?

Mistake - unless IR is two people.

Then he is mafia.

50% of the time I am 100% right.

ChiRocker

01/20/2011, 18:20

sstralkowski

01/20/2011, 18:20

stan is going to have a seizure from doing the vote count

Should we assume that's a mistake, or that it was purposeful that IR got two votes on different people?

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*eyes roll back*
*froths at mouth*

sstralkowski

01/20/2011, 18:21

Every time you re-set the clock it confuses me =[

ChiRocker has been modkilled

sstralkowski

01/20/2011, 18:21

ChiRocker has been modrezzed

sstralkowski

01/20/2011, 18:21

Ok time for me to cook dinner. Be back later for another seizure.

ChiRocker

01/20/2011, 18:22

I was nervous there for the split second it took me to read the second post :surprised

MSU

01/20/2011, 18:37

You realize you have votes on me in two different spots, right?

deadshot042

01/20/2011, 18:37

Following Schroedinger, one might argue that everyone in a mafia game exists in a state in which they are both simultaneously mafia and town, until such time as their box is opened and their true existential state is revealed.

From my understanding of physics, which is limited, Schroedinger's cat is an example used to critique the idea (in the original case, the Copenhagen interpretation) that something can occupy two, distinct states simultaneously. The thought that the cat when tied to the state of a subatomic particle could also be considered to be in a "blurred state", being both alive and dead, is seemingly ridiculous. So it seems that it is equally ridiculous to say that a particle simultaneously occupies two points in a "blurred state".

However would agree that it is fair to assume that the cat is just as likely to be dead, as it is to be alive when finally observed. So until we lynch someone they can neither be consider town nor mafia, and the percent chance of either being true would depend on the inputs. In this case, I believe (according to normal mafia distribution) that each player stands a 25% chance of being mafia and a 75% chance of being town.

I know that I most likely got something wrong, as it has been awhile since I've done anything involving physics. But that's my understanding of Schroedinger's Cat.

ChiRocker

01/20/2011, 18:38

You realize you have votes on me in two different spots, right?

Change vote to MSU.

Lets see how he responds to this =P

mbauers

01/20/2011, 18:39

Pointing out your own mafia tells is a mafia tell, thus you've got two checkmarks beside your name in my head.

How many until I get a detention?

MSU

01/20/2011, 18:48

From my understanding of physics, which is limited, Schroedinger's cat is an example used to critique the idea (in the original case, the Copenhagen interpretation) that something can occupy two, distinct states simultaneously. The thought that the cat when tied to the state of a subatomic particle could also be considered to be in a "blurred state", being both alive and dead, is seemingly ridiculous. So it seems that it is equally ridiculous to say that a particle simultaneously occupies two points in a "blurred state".

However would agree that it is fair to assume that the cat is just as likely to be dead, as it is to be alive when finally observed. So until we lynch someone they can neither be consider town nor mafia, and the percent chance of either being true would depend on the inputs. In this case, I believe (according to normal mafia distribution) that each player stands a 25% chance of being mafia and a 75% chance of being town.

I know that I most likely got something wrong, as it has been awhile since I've done anything involving physics. But that's my understanding of Schroedinger's Cat.

Um...This is not MCP I invented.

deadshot042

01/20/2011, 18:49

I think sstralkowski is exhibiting some tells, posting for lolz and getting defensive. He also clearly has a kill power.

deadshot042

01/20/2011, 18:53

Um...This is not MCP I invented.

MCP I? filler

MSU

01/20/2011, 18:57

MCP I? filler

The MSU Certainty Principle.

deadshot042

01/20/2011, 19:00

Haha, completely forgot about those posts. I agree that it should be added to the glossary.

ChiRocker

01/20/2011, 19:14

I also think that "Sparkled" should be a game term, in which someone from outside the game starts a lynch train on someone for making a Twilight joke.

This would have been hilarious if more than 1 person piled on the train, though the term "To Queb" could mean to immediately vote to lynch someone after someone from outside the game voted for them because they made a Twilight joke.

dbauers

01/20/2011, 19:38

sstralkowski

01/20/2011, 19:59

*head explodes*

Vote Count:

mal: (1) MSU
batfink: (1) Quebbs
Darq: (2) Aegon, Grinner
MSU: (5) goodman, Mags, mal, charles, Chi
Pax: (1) Darq
get: (1) VB
VB: (1) IR
Vevil: (2) Jacin, mbauers
JoH: (1) batfink
deadshot: (1) dbauers
Chi: (14) sstralkowski

With 28 players, 15 is a majority.

You have 24 hours to accomplish something or someone dies.

ChiRocker

01/20/2011, 20:13

*head explodes*

Vote Count:

mal: (2) Chi, MSU
batfink: (1) Quebbs
Darq: (2) Aegon, Grinner
MSU: (5) goodman, Mags, mal, charles, Chi
Pax: (1) Darq
get: (1) VB
VB: (1) IR
Vevil: (2) Jacin, mbauers
JoH: (1) batfink
deadshot: (1) dbauers

With 28 players, 15 is a majority.

You have 24 hours to accomplish something or someone dies.

Sweet! I get 2 votes!!
please don't modkill me again...

malakim2099

01/20/2011, 20:14

Um...This is not MCP I invented.

So you admit to being Dillinger, who stole Space Paranoids from Flynn and is therefore, evil.

My vote stays. Unless something amuses me more.

JacinB

01/20/2011, 20:15

Sweet! I get 2 votes!!
please don't modkill me again...
How'd you steal it from IR? :rolleyes:

ChiRocker

01/20/2011, 20:17

How'd you steal it from IR? :rolleyes:

And now a scene from Star Wars: lol lol lol

Song of Ice and Fire

01/20/2011, 21:17

I guess it wouldn't be day one if I didn't...

Vote Darqles

Liar ;) but that was totally my bad. I sowwy.

sstralkowski

01/20/2011, 21:38

Vote Count:

mal: (1) MSU
batfink: (1) Quebbs
Darq: (2) Aegon, Grinner
MSU: (5) goodman, Mags, mal, charles, Chi
Pax: (1) Darq
get: (1) VB
VB: (1) IR
Vevil: (2) Jacin, mbauers
JoH: (1) batfink
deadshot: (1) dbauers

With 28 players, 15 is a majority.

You have 24 hours to accomplish something or ChiRocker dies.

JacinB

01/20/2011, 21:49

You have 24 hours to accomplish something or ChiRocker dies.
24 hours from now or 24 hours from then?

sstralkowski

01/20/2011, 21:51

24 hours from now or 24 hours from then?

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sstralkowski

01/20/2011, 21:53

To clarify:

You have roughly 14.5 hours from now to accomplish something or someone (hopefully ChiRocker) dies.

DarqFeonix

01/20/2011, 21:58

Still on Team MSU.

I blame Pax for my death in BoP. Everyone who died in that game should have a grudge.

Plus... No posting from Mr. Rake.

malakim2099

01/20/2011, 22:04

Still on Team MSU.

I blame Pax for my death in BoP. Everyone who died in that game should have a grudge.

Plus... No posting from Mr. Rake.

Why should I team up with a sleazy person like Dillinger?

Will I get my own Recognizer?

JacinB

01/20/2011, 22:10

Still on Team MSU.
Can you explain? I wasn't in the previous game and am not sure what you're meaning.

(If'n you're just saying you're following MSU's vote, you might want to note that he's currently voting for Mal.)

get_1

01/20/2011, 22:11

He's saying he supports MSU as not being at fault for Magnito dying in the previous game.

Unless of course I'm mistaken and he's really just saying that he and MSU are on a team/cult/mafia.

DarqFeonix

01/20/2011, 22:12

Basically this harkens back to Magnito's lymph on Townie-Mags in this last Birds game.

sstralkowski

01/20/2011, 22:13

Basically this harkens back to Magnito's lymph on Townie-Mags in this last Birds game.

FAIL ninjas

DarqFeonix

01/20/2011, 22:14

LOL, lymph cracked me up.

JacinB

01/20/2011, 22:14

Basically this harkens back to Magnito's lymph on Townie-Mags in this last Birds game.
I'm still not following, exactly, but I guess I'll cope.

Jackofhearts2005

01/20/2011, 22:37

Note that with the someone will die clause, all players joke voting are even more scummy than usual.

sstralkowski

01/20/2011, 22:37

G'night all. See you in the morning.

Silver Lantern

01/20/2011, 22:47

Ok so a lot of meaningless votes and Stan promising to kill someone if we don't get something done... All seems in order.

Vote: MSU, as getting a claim is arguably getting something done and he's got the most votes...

Silver Lantern

01/20/2011, 22:48

Bah... Vote: MSU

Cornucopia

01/20/2011, 23:19

G'night all. See you in the morning.

Night Stan. And I'll actually see you in the morning. Most of these other guys will only see your posts in the thread in the morning.

Vote: MSU in an effort to help accomplish something today

PaxZRake

01/20/2011, 23:44

I thought the Mags lynch last game was ill advised.

vote: lynch MSU

MSU

01/21/2011, 00:17

I am Huntress....leave me be.

See, we accomplished something!

Since this is Exiles-ish, I believe I am normal Huntress, not some amalgam or different multiverse Huntress but it wasn't specified.

My vote stays on Mal but might switch to someone who hasn't posted....

MSU

01/21/2011, 00:20

Night Stan. And I'll actually see you in the morning. Most of these other guys will only see your posts in the thread in the morning.

Vote: MSU in an effort to help accomplish something today

This and Vevi are the scummy posts - how is voting for me accomplishing anything?

Magnito voted for me because of a vendetta.

Goodman voted for me because of the Wade Wilson Southpart/DCU game and my role in getting him lynched.

Mal voted for me because I pointed out the MCP.

Chi Rocker voted for me...I have no idea why.

CharlesX voted for me....because it is my birthday (which it is not...we are close, but not today).

The rest are voting for me because I have the most votes.

deadshot042

01/21/2011, 00:25

I just skimmed the first day of the original BoP game and no one way lynched on the first day, but no one was modkilled either. I'm not sure if we should be taking the statements in read literally and end up lynching a townie when there was no good reason to.

Not Voting

Of course if I missed or forgot something about the original game, then please correct my misinformed notions.

Quebbster

01/21/2011, 00:40

MSU

01/21/2011, 00:46

Huntress wasn't in the first game as far as I know....

DarqFeonix

01/21/2011, 00:48

Last game:

3) Huntress (Helena Bertinelli) — mind controller - You are a vigilante who is prone to using excessive force. You're a former mafia princess who was devastated at a young age when your family was killed in a mob hit. Trained by your assassin cousin in the art of violence, you declared war on the mob in the name of justice. Following Black Canary's departure, you became the team's field commander. Choose two players (A & B) each night. You will use your mob-like brutality to strong arm (misdirect) player A into targeting player B. Alignment: BoP Win Condition: You win when all threats to your faction have been eliminated. (CaptainNifty)

Silver Lantern

01/21/2011, 00:50

3) Huntress (Helena Bertinelli) — mind controller - You are a vigilante who is prone to using excessive force. You're a former mafia princess who was devastated at a young age when your family was killed in a mob hit. Trained by your assassin cousin in the art of violence, you declared war on the mob in the name of justice. Following Black Canary's departure, you became the team's field commander. Choose two players (A & B) each night. You will use your mob-like brutality to strong arm (misdirect) player A into targeting player B. Alignment: BoP Win Condition: You win when all threats to your faction have been eliminated. (CaptainNifty)

I think it was a janitored role the SK duo had.

Silver Lantern

01/21/2011, 00:51

Die in a fire Darq!!!!! :p

DarqFeonix

01/21/2011, 00:52

Yep, killed Night 2:

The ship swooped down from orbit unleashing a barrage of fire and death upon it's unsuspecting victim. People ran around in a panic, screaming and crying as an entire city block was destroyed in a matter of seconds. Captain Nifty and countless other civilians are either dead or missing in the rubble...

*grabs MSU's cheeks*

I know it was you Charlie. You broke my heart.

Change Vote: MSU

Quebbster

01/21/2011, 05:21

lynch: MSU

sstralkowski

01/21/2011, 05:43

Vote Count:

mal: (1) MSU
Darq: (2) Aegon, Grinner
MSU: (10) goodman, Mags, mal, charles, Chi, SL, Corn, Pax, Darq, Quebbs
get: (1) VB
VB: (1) IR
Vevil: (2) Jacin, mbauers
JoH: (1) batfink
deadshot: (1) dbauers

With 28 players, 15 is a majority.

You have approximately 6.5 hours to accomplish something or someone dies.

charlesx

01/21/2011, 07:00

Quebbster

01/21/2011, 07:03

This would have been hilarious if more than 1 person piled on the train, though the term "To Queb" could mean to immediately vote to lynch someone after someone from outside the game voted for them because they made a Twilight joke.
Personally I think the term should mean "voting to lynch someone who isn't playing but posts anyway"...

JacinB

01/21/2011, 07:27

Given that this is an Exiles version of the game, I'm not entirely convinced that there can't be versions of characters in this one that died in the first. But, just the same ...

Change vote: MSU.

Quebbster

01/21/2011, 07:34

Given that this is an Exiles version of the game, I'm not entirely convinced that there can't be versions of characters in this one that died in the first. But, just the same ...

Change vote: MSU.
I'm not 100% convinced either, but it does seem odd that a dead character from the last game would show up here, especially considering what the initial writeup says:
In keeping with the whole Six theme, the Mafia is based on the Sinister Six. The town consists of some of the Birds of Prey characters who survived [URL="http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=295002"]the first game (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2969347&postcount=1) as well as some Marvel reruits and a few randoms. The official alignment is "BoE".
The only category Huntress would fit in is "a few randoms"...

That said, I'll remove my vote if MSU claims more than just a name.

sstralkowski

01/21/2011, 07:47

Vote Count:

mal: (1) MSU
Darq: (2) Aegon, Grinner
MSU: (11) goodman, Mags, mal, charles, Chi, SL, Corn, Pax, Darq, Quebbs, Jacin
get: (1) VB
VB: (1) IR
Vevil: (1) mbauers
JoH: (1) batfink
deadshot: (1) dbauers

With 28 players, 15 is a majority.

You have approximately 5 hours to accomplish something or someone dies.

CaptainNifty

01/21/2011, 07:58

11 Pages of discussion should count as accomplishing something.

I was Huntress last game.

Perhaps, it is Helena Wayne--Huntress. This is an exiles game.

It does sound fishy though.

MSU

01/21/2011, 08:01

This is ridiculous....

I am the town Busdriver.

I am Huntress Bertinelli. Town.

Go ahead and lynch me if you want. It will go along with my day one daykill in the Joss Whedon game.

Quebbster

01/21/2011, 08:08

remove vote
as promised.

ChiRocker

01/21/2011, 08:13

Does No Lynch accomplish anything :nervous:

MSU

01/21/2011, 08:13

You are telling me I am the only person here who was represented in the first game????

What are the damn odds....

NO ONE ELSE has a character from the first game?

MSU

01/21/2011, 08:14

Does No Lynch accomplish anything :nervous:

It ends the day phase - and usually frowned upon.

ChiRocker

01/21/2011, 08:16

It ends the day phase - and usually frowned upon.

How about Leave Vote with Quebbs?

You are telling me I am the only person here who was represented in the first game????

What are the damn odds....

NO ONE ELSE has a character from the first game?

I am not from the last game.

sstralkowski

01/21/2011, 08:19

Vote Count:

mal: (1) MSU
Darq: (2) Aegon, Grinner
MSU: (9) goodman, Mags, mal, charles, SL, Corn, Pax, Darq, Jacin
get: (1) VB
VB: (1) IR
Vevil: (1) mbauers
JoH: (1) batfink
deadshot: (1) dbauers

*Chi tied to Quebbs

With 28 players, 15 is a majority.

You have approximately 4 hours to accomplish something or someone dies.

PaxZRake

01/21/2011, 08:24

Stan and I did choose to not kill characters for a reason last game.

MSU

01/21/2011, 08:36

Stan and I did choose to not kill characters for a reason last game.

Did Huntress DIE or did she leave the game?

Quebbster

01/21/2011, 08:42

Did Huntress DIE or did she leave the game?

She was janitored. Darq already posted her death scene:
Yep, killed Night 2:

The ship swooped down from orbit unleashing a barrage of fire and death upon it's unsuspecting victim. People ran around in a panic, screaming and crying as an entire city block was destroyed in a matter of seconds. Captain Nifty and countless other civilians are either dead or missing in the rubble...

*grabs MSU's cheeks*

I know it was you Charlie. You broke my heart.

Change Vote: MSU

MSU

01/21/2011, 08:44

no no no...HOW was she janitored? Pax just said, some people didn't DIE in the last game but they were removed from the game.

For instance, Mr. Toad, in Disney, never "dies" - usually if Mr. Toad is lynched or killed, I come in and save him while insulting the rest of the players, but the player is still removed from the game.

Quebbster

01/21/2011, 08:45

no no no...HOW was she janitored?
Did you skip the quote or is this a rhetorical question?

PaxZRake

01/21/2011, 08:46

Did you skip the quote or is this a rhetorical question?

Did you skip the quote?

Quebbster

01/21/2011, 08:47

Did you skip the quote?

Don't think so...

dbauers

01/21/2011, 08:48

Sorry MSU. I dont believe you. I think you missed that she was janitored and thought you had a safe claim.

Change Vote: MSU

charlesx

01/21/2011, 08:48

Did Huntress DIE or did she leave the game?

Looks pretty darned dead in the quote that I didn't skip. It's not like it says, "Huntress safely floated away while thumbing her nose, never to be seen again..." Just saying.

PaxZRake

01/21/2011, 08:48

Don't think so...

Would you humor me and reread it?

PaxZRake

01/21/2011, 08:49

Sorry MSU. I dont believe you. I think you missed that she was janitored and thought you had a safe claim.

Change Vote: MSU

Looks pretty darned dead in the quote that I didn't skip. It's not like it says, "Huntress safely floated away while thumbing her nose, never to be seen again..." Just saying.

Could the two of you reread it for me as well and post what you find?

I'm conducting an experiment.

Quebbster

01/21/2011, 08:50

Would you humor me and reread it?

Nope. Got better things to do. Besides, I think I know where you are going with this.

charlesx

01/21/2011, 08:52

Could the two of you reread it for me as well and post what you find?

I'm conducting an experiment.

Sorry, dude, you lost me. The quote states the name CaptainNifty, not Huntress, but it was a janitored death so Huntress = CaptainNifty. That is how I read it.

PaxZRake

01/21/2011, 08:52

Nope. Got better things to do. Besides, I think I know where you are going with this.

That's a fine response.

I'll remove vote until I hear from Charles and dbau.

MSU defending himself would be nice as well.

ChiRocker

01/21/2011, 08:53

Captain Nifty and countless other civilians are either dead or missing in the rubble...

This quote???

PaxZRake

01/21/2011, 08:54

ChiRocker you are ruining my fun.

Charles, would you say you're a glass half empty guy?

charlesx

01/21/2011, 08:58

Charles, would you say you're a glass half empty guy?

I'd say that you co-modded the first game but are now a player in the second one. So unless you have inside knowledge of how Stan designed the current game and know for a fact that CaptainNifty/Huntress survived being blasted and buried under rubble, I can only go by the meaning that I read in the quote.

If you know for a fact that Huntress survived the janitored hit and Stan included her as a role in this game, please come out and say so.

dbauers

01/21/2011, 08:59

ChiRocker you are ruining my fun.

Charles, would you say you're a glass half empty guy?

I would say that I am. I saw that part of the quote. I think MSU is banking on that, and why he considers it to be a decent falseclaim.

ChiRocker

01/21/2011, 09:00

ChiRocker you are ruining my fun.

Charles, would you say you're a glass half empty guy?

That's what I do =P
I didn't think about it til I posted it, and then I couldn't edit it... sorry =[

PaxZRake

01/21/2011, 09:01

Those are fair responses.

Why do you prefer to believe that MSU is lying when there is an equal chance he could be telling the truth?

MSU

01/21/2011, 09:03

Hwo can I defend myself when it is day 1?

No actions. Nothing I can defend myself on.

If I was going to choose a character, I wouldn't bank on someone like Huntress when I had 5 votes on me. No reason to even say anything on day 1.

PaxZRake

01/21/2011, 09:03

charlesx

01/21/2011, 09:04

Those are fair responses.

Why do you prefer to believe that MSU is lying when there is an equal chance he could be telling the truth?

This is a Stan game. For all we know the Klingon Spaceship retrieved Huntress' corpse from the rubble and sold it to the Borg so that she could be reanimated and fitted with a prehensile tail. If that is the case and MSU is indeed town, my apologies and regrets.

However, since this is Day 1, I prefer to keep it simple. There is no preferrence involved.

MSU

01/21/2011, 09:05

I would say that I am. I saw that part of the quote. I think MSU is banking on that, and why he considers it to be a decent falseclaim.

Of ALL the roles I could have chosen on DAY 1, I choose Huntress?

Really?

This started out as a revenge lynch by Magnito. And by Goodman.

It is DAY 1.

dbauers

01/21/2011, 09:06

Those are fair responses.

Why do you prefer to believe that MSU is lying when there is an equal chance he could be telling the truth?

Perhaps I dont believe him because I am a glass half empty kinda guy.

Or perhaps I do believe him and im trying to see if my arguments can catch anyone else trying to "jump on the train" so to speak.

Or perhaps I have a vendetta against him because of him always causing my death in the 100 bullets games, and wouldnt mind seeing him lynched. :p

You may never know for certain.....

charlesx

01/21/2011, 09:06

Sorry, I meant "there is no other preferrence involved."

PaxZRake

01/21/2011, 09:06

This is a Stan game. For all we know the Klingon Spaceship retrieved Huntress' corpse from the rubble and sold it to the Borg so that she could be reanimated and fitted with a prehensile tail. If that is the case and MSU is indeed town, my apologies and regrets.

However, since this is Day 1, I prefer to keep it simple. There is no preferrence involved.

Why don't you think Huntress was merely one of the missing? Why do you insist that she died?

ChiRocker

01/21/2011, 09:07

PaxZRake

01/21/2011, 09:08

Perhaps I dont believe him because I am a glass half empty kinda guy.

Or perhaps I do believe him and im trying to see if my arguments can catch anyone else trying to "jump on the train" so to speak.

Or perhaps I have a vendetta against him because of him always causing my death in the 100 bullets games, and wouldnt mind seeing him lynched. :p

You may never know for certain.....

I don't like this answer. It's not honest.

Your first response equates to poor game play. Your second response doesn't jive with your posts. Your third response is also poor game play.

How about an honest answer :)

charlesx

01/21/2011, 09:10

Why don't you think Huntress was merely one of the missing? Why do you insist that she died?

Why do you insist that she lived?

I am only stating my position, not being insistent that Stan could not change things up unpredictably whichever way he chooses.

I readily admit that MSU could be telling the truth - but I am not taking chances. It could be an OMAC, which has been known to happen even to experienced players? (Or have you forgotten my D1 goof-up in your BSG mafia when you gave me the role of Magnus Robot Fighter and my first post was about killing Toasters?)

dbauers

01/21/2011, 09:10

Aegon Targaryen

01/21/2011, 09:13

PaxZRake

01/21/2011, 09:15

Why do you insist that she lived?

I am only stating my position, not being insistent that Stan could not change things up unpredictably whichever way he chooses.

I readily admit that MSU could be telling the truth - but I am not taking chances. It could be an OMAC, which has been known to happen even to experienced players? (Or have you forgotten my D1 goof-up in your BSG mafia when you gave me the role of Magnus Robot Fighter and my first post was about killing Toasters?)

I haven't insisted that Huntress survived. I've merely entertained the possibility.

So your position is that MSU is scum based on his role claim of Huntress and the 50% chance that Huntress died in the last game?

charlesx

01/21/2011, 09:19

I haven't insisted that Huntress survived. I've merely entertained the possibility.

So your position is that MSU is scum based on his role claim of Huntress and the 50% chance that Huntress died in the last game?

My position is that, given that this is D1, I can only go by what we see in the prior game's write-up. And unless you know for a fact that Huntress survived the hit, I can only guess that she did not. The janitored death invalidates MSU's role claim for the current game. Because if Stan did REALLY include Huntress as a town role, it pretty much hoses anyone who tries to use the claim.

Jackofhearts2005

01/21/2011, 09:20

It could be an OMAC, which has been known to happen even to experienced players?

It can't be an OMAC because if we believe him, we'd think he was town.

There is a difference between an omac and a claim we just don't believe. An omac is a claim we believe but we're gonna lynch you anyways because you claimed scum.

This is a Stan game. For all we know the Klingon Spaceship retrieved Huntress' corpse from the rubble and sold it to the Borg so that she could be reanimated and fitted with a prehensile tail. If that is the case and MSU is indeed town, my apologies and regrets.

Reaching and apologizing.

Makes me not want to vote for MSU.

sstralkowski

01/21/2011, 09:22

Vote Count:

mal: (1) MSU
Darq: (2) Aegon, Grinner
MSU: (9) goodman, Mags, mal, charles, SL, Corn, Darq, Jacin, dbauers
get: (1) VB
VB: (1) IR
Vevil: (1) mbauers
JoH: (1) batfink

*Chi tied to Quebbs

With 28 players, 15 is a majority.

You have approximately 3 hours to accomplish something or someone dies.

dbauers

01/21/2011, 09:23

I don't like this answer. It's not honest.

Your first response equates to poor game play. Your second response doesn't jive with your posts. Your third response is also poor game play.

How about an honest answer :)

My post is honest thank you very much. I gave 3 possibilities, so of course not all of them are going to be my real reason.

I am a pretty negative guy. Im not being dishonest about being glass half full. I dont think its poor game play either. 50/50 shot for mafia on day one is actually great odds. Especially because if it does turn out to be the 50% that he is a townie, there will likely be scum on the train.

I also do have a vendetta against MSU, but I'd prefer not to do anything about it here. Id rather wait until the next 100 bullets game.

At any rate, me throwing out an assertion of "i think msu is lying" without real proof, is not really necessarily going to catch any train jumpers at this point, due to the discussion about it and due to chirocker pointing out the "missing" part.

charlesx

01/21/2011, 09:24

It can't be an OMAC because if we believe him, we'd think he was town.

There is a difference between an omac and a claim we just don't believe. An omac is a claim we believe but we're gonna lynch you anyways because you claimed scum.

Reaching and apologizing.

Makes me not want to vote for MSU.

OK, I stand corrected about the OMAC. And I wasn't reaching - I was pointing out the fact that Stan comes up with crazy stuff, that's all. Up to you all whether you'd rather believe that Huntress survived the janitored kill.

PaxZRake

01/21/2011, 09:24

I do know for a fact that Huntress survived the last game :)

Jackofhearts2005

01/21/2011, 09:27

OK, I stand corrected about the OMAC. And I wasn't reaching - I was pointing out the fact that Stan comes up with crazy stuff, that's all. Up to you all whether you'd rather believe that Huntress survived the janitored kill.

"Oh yeah, you could totally be telling the truth BUT you could be a borg so we should lynch you anyways."

That's not reaching?

dbauers

01/21/2011, 09:27

I do know for a fact that Huntress survived the last game :)

Well yeah, tv huntress (me). Are you saying that MSU is really the tv huntress? Because I feel like he would have said that.

ChiRocker

01/21/2011, 09:28

I do know for a fact that Huntress survived the last game :)

And it is only fair that you shared =]

charlesx

01/21/2011, 09:29

I do know for a fact that Huntress survived the last game :)

Well, see, I would call that as having inside knowledge and thus an advantage in the current game. All the same, it creates reasonable doubt regarding this lynch.

Remove vote.

PaxZRake

01/21/2011, 09:32

Well yeah, tv huntress (me). Are you saying that MSU is really the tv huntress? Because I feel like he would have said that.

I like this :)

Well, see, I would call that as having inside knowledge and thus an advantage in the current game. All the same, it creates reasonable doubt regarding this lynch.

Remove vote.

And you get to share in that advantage. Isn't that nice?

Keep in mind Town Doctor, I possess secret knowledge!

sstralkowski

01/21/2011, 09:43

Vote Count:

mal: (1) MSU
Darq: (2) Aegon, Grinner
MSU: (8) goodman, Mags, mal, SL, Corn, Darq, Jacin, dbauers
get: (1) VB
VB: (1) IR
Vevil: (1) mbauers
JoH: (1) batfink

*Chi tied to Quebbs

With 28 players, 15 is a majority.

You have approximately 3 hours to accomplish something or someone dies.

JacinB

01/21/2011, 09:49

Well yeah, tv huntress (me). Are you saying that MSU is really the tv huntress? Because I feel like he would have said that.
Yeah, see ... the fact that he said that he thought he was the regular universe Huntress because it wasn't specified is what makes his claim feel fishy to me.

I'm not saying he's lying. I've still not yet gone back and read the roles from the previous thread (gonna do that here in a minute).

But, Stan seems to be indicating that someone today is going to die regardless. We've got someone with a fishy claim. If he dies and he winds up town, we at least learn something from it to go on tomorrow. If he dies and he's Mafia, we're one step ahead of the game.

JacinB

01/21/2011, 09:50

And you get to share in that advantage. Isn't that nice?

Keep in mind Town Doctor, I possess secret knowledge!
Please tell me, secret knowledge person, that you didn't just out the actual Town Doctor. :noid:

Change vote: Pax.

Immortal_Raven

01/21/2011, 09:51

Um, anyone remember the Mass-RB from night one last game, where only the SK got a kill and most everyone else failed. Was that ever explained? Is it possible that the mod did it as the "someone will die" statement?

PaxZRake

01/21/2011, 09:54

Please tell me, secret knowledge person, that you didn't just out the actual Town Doctor. :noid:

Change vote: Pax.

Who do you think I outed as the Town Doctor and how do you think I gathered that info.

Rusty Jacin is rusty :)

Um, anyone remember the Mass-RB from night one last game, where only the SK got a kill and most everyone else failed. Was that ever explained? Is it possible that the mod did it as the "someone will die" statement?

That was Harley calling in a favor from Bizzaro.

Silver Lantern

01/21/2011, 09:54

The only reason I might vote MSU again is to save myself (cause if someone is going to die, I would like a say in it rather than risk myself dying at random). But, I would also rather there be a good chance that a baddie could be offed, so Ima leave that decision with Quebbs.

So you're around, can vote, but don't want the responsibility of voting so you're pawning off your vote on Quebs?!! LOLOLOL. I can see this trend now, people leaving their votes with people they want to frame... :confused::confused::confused:

Anyways, I think MSU may be telling the truth. If nothing else he has power & role claimed, can't expect anything else on D1...

Of course if he is a busdriver, he can always prevent himself from getting copped tonight, but I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt nevertheless.

Remove vote

PaxZRake

01/21/2011, 09:56

We have a claim, a full one, we have 5 good suspects in Charles, dbau, Quebbs, Jacin and Darq, and we have a Townie (me) that needs to be protected at all costs.

We've had a fairly productive day.

sstralkowski

01/21/2011, 09:56

Vote Count:

mal: (1) MSU
Darq: (2) Aegon, Grinner
MSU: (6) goodman, Mags, mal, Corn, Darq, dbauers
get: (1) VB
VB: (1) IR
Vevil: (1) mbauers
JoH: (1) batfink
Pax: (1) Jacin

*Chi tied to Quebbs

With 28 players, 15 is a majority.

You have approximately 2.5 hours to accomplish something or someone dies.

Silver Lantern

01/21/2011, 09:58

Please tell me, secret knowledge person, that you didn't just out the actual Town Doctor. :noid:

Change vote: Pax.

Not that I like to defend Pax or anything... :p

But I think that what he was doing was asking to be doctored by indicating he had secret knowledge. As if saying "hey town doctor, who has two thumbs and secret info on the game??? This guy right here!"

ChiRocker

01/21/2011, 09:58

So you're around, can vote, but don't want the responsibility of voting so you're pawning off your vote on Quebs?!! LOLOLOL. I can see this trend now, people leaving their votes with people they want to frame... :confused::confused::confused:

Anyways, I think MSU may be telling the truth. If nothing else he has power & role claimed, can't expect anything else on D1...

Of course if he is a busdriver, he can always prevent himself from getting copped tonight, but I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt nevertheless.

Remove vote

I definitely think he is telling the truth, I just know that I would rather not die randomly. I left my vote with him when there were more votes on MSU and it might matter. Looks like a lost cause now.

Remove vote

JacinB

01/21/2011, 10:06

Not that I like to defend Pax or anything... :p

But I think that what he was doing was asking to be doctored by indicating he had secret knowledge. As if saying "hey town doctor, who has two thumbs and secret info on the game??? This guy right here!"
Completely not how I read it ...

Rather than "Keep in mind Town Doctor, I possess secret knowledge!" as a plea to the random, unnamed Town Doctor to protect him, I read it as "Keep in mind, Town Doctor, I possess secret knowledge!" which would mean that the person he was addressing was the Town Doctor and he was revealing it as an example of the secret knowledge he possesses.

Rusty Jacin really is rusty. :cross-eye

JacinB

01/21/2011, 10:07

Change vote: MSU.

charlesx

01/21/2011, 10:09

And you get to share in that advantage. Isn't that nice?

No, not really. If you are scum, it gives you an unfair advantage. If you are town, you have just painted a huge target on yourself. If you are neutral, you can sit back and watch the chaos ensue while you dole out "secret knowledge" as you see fit.

I will have a question or two for Stan regarding how to keep the game balanced when a player has insider knowledge after this installment of BoE is done.

dbauers

01/21/2011, 10:12

No, not really. If you are scum, it gives you an unfair advantage. If you are town, you have just painted a huge target on yourself. If you are neutral, you can sit back and watch the chaos ensue while you dole out "secret knowledge" as you see fit.

I will have a question or two for Stan regarding how to keep the game balanced when a player has insider knowledge after this installment of BoE is done.

you know, he could just be lying about having secret knowledge. maybe he just wants doctor protection.

Immortal_Raven

01/21/2011, 10:15

JacinB

01/21/2011, 10:18

you know, he could just be lying about having secret knowledge. maybe he just wants doctor protection.
That would make him Scum, as diverting the town's doctor by lying about one's role in order to protect oneself from death and eliminate protection for the Townies is a scum tell.

Particularly if the Mafia also had a reverse tracker and targetted him the same night so as to tell who the Town's Doctor was so they'd know who to kill or roleblock.

Change vote: Pax. Again.

PaxZRake

01/21/2011, 10:19

I could link you guys to the proboard, but I'm not going to :) I have a line.

I'll move dbau up my list and IR on to it :)

charlesx

01/21/2011, 10:19

I'm inclined to believe this. Reading the write-up from last game, Huntress was dead or missing. I really don't think Pax has any concrete info other than maybe knowing how Stan operates better than the rest of us. He just wants to not die. I can't blame him.

That may be the case, but if I don't believe Pax at this moment, then that means that the vote for MSU is justified. Guess I am taking Pax at his word until we have evidence to the contrary. Otherwise, we'd be lynching a Townie (MSU) for no good reason.

PaxZRake

01/21/2011, 10:20

This has been, for me, one of the funniest day phases in a while :) Thanks guys.

Quebbster

01/21/2011, 10:20

I haven't insisted that Huntress survived. I've merely entertained the possibility.

So your position is that MSU is scum based on his role claim of Huntress and the 50% chance that Huntress died in the last game?
I love the implication that being buried beneath a collapsing building equates a 50% chance of being crushed and 50% chance of being dead.
But in comics I think those are the actual odds...
Um, anyone remember the Mass-RB from night one last game, where only the SK got a kill and most everyone else failed. Was that ever explained? Is it possible that the mod did it as the "someone will die" statement?
Mass-block by Harley, and an unblockable hit by the Klingons.
I definitely think he is telling the truth, I just know that I would rather not die randomly. I left my vote with him when there were more votes on MSU and it might matter. Looks like a lost cause now.

Remove vote
Technically your vote was removed when you tied it to mine since my vote had already been removed.

Aegon Targaryen

01/21/2011, 10:21

you know, he could just be lying about having secret knowledge. maybe he just wants doctor protection.

I'm inclined to believe this. Reading the write-up from last game, Huntress was dead or missing. I really don't think Pax has any concrete info other than maybe knowing how Stan operates better than the rest of us. He just wants to not die. I can't blame him.

YaY!!! you two have graduated "Understanding the Mental Capacities and Incapacities of the Neurospace Landscape of PaxZRake with Emphasis on Fabricated Realities 101". Next try the sophomore class, it is a doozie.

JacinB

01/21/2011, 10:23

No, not really. If you are scum, it gives you an unfair advantage. If you are town, you have just painted a huge target on yourself. If you are neutral, you can sit back and watch the chaos ensue while you dole out "secret knowledge" as you see fit.
Here's a plan: MSU's roleclaimed already (admittedly, it's a fishy one) so let's lynch Pax.

If he is Town, charlesx, dbauers, Immortal_Raven and myself go on the block tomorrow. If he isn't, well he went out of his way to try to convince us all that MSU -- the guy who roleclaimed a dead person -- wasn't scum today, too ...

I'd say that makes for a productive and informative, first day.

ChiRocker

01/21/2011, 10:26

I love the implication that being buried beneath a collapsing building equates a 50% chance of being crushed and 50% chance of being dead.
But in comics I think those are the actual odds...

Mass-block by Harley, and an unblockable hit by the Klingons.

Technically your vote was removed when you tied it to mine since my vote had already been removed.

I had to say something to untie it though =P

PaxZRake

01/21/2011, 10:26

Here's a plan: MSU's roleclaimed already (admittedly, it's a fishy one) so let's lynch Pax.

If he is Town, charlesx, dbauers, Immortal_Raven and myself go on the block tomorrow. If he isn't, well he went out of his way to try to convince us all that MSU -- the guy who roleclaimed a dead person -- wasn't scum today, too ...

I'd say that makes for a productive and informative, first day.

If I'm a Vigilante I'm killing you tonight.

This is an awful post Jacin :) No power plays until you get back into fighting shape.

charlesx

01/21/2011, 10:28

Here's a plan: MSU's roleclaimed already (admittedly, it's a fishy one) so let's lynch Pax.

Dunno. Pax is coming across as a neutral (the roles that he usually loves) and very well could be a jester. That being the case, I'd rather leave it up to the vigilante to decide setting the record straight. Plus, I don't know that we have time to rally for a lynch on anyone at this point.

PaxZRake

01/21/2011, 10:29

Dunno. Pax is coming across as a neutral (the roles that he usually loves) and very well could be a jester. That being the case, I'd rather leave it up to the vigilante to decide setting the record straight. Plus, I don't know that we have time to rally for a lynch on anyone at this point.

Heh, and now you're trying to discredit me for no reason.

You get bumped up the list to. This is awesome.

charlesx

01/21/2011, 10:31

Heh, and now you're trying to discredit me for no reason.

You get bumped up the list to. This is awesome.

Yes, Pax, we know that the discussion is all about you. :cool:

Like you don't like being a neutral and messing with people's heads, you little Strawberry. :laugh:

Immortal_Raven

01/21/2011, 10:31

Sweet, I made someone's list.

Pax, I just don't believe you because I think Stan wouldn't be that stupid or unfair to the rest of us. I don't think you have access to anything privileged that the rest of us couldn't get by re-reading the last game. The only difference is that you may have a source where all that info is compiled in a nice, tidy package.

I think you're asking for some doctoring because you're playing an angle. I haven't made my mind up about your alignment yet.

MSU

01/21/2011, 10:31

Well yeah, tv huntress (me). Are you saying that MSU is really the tv huntress? Because I feel like he would have said that.

Are you actively ignoring my posts or just not reading when I said I was helena berinelli?

charlesx

01/21/2011, 10:33

It's Ber-ti-nelli, Shirley. :laugh:

And I will believe you for now.

MSU

01/21/2011, 10:33

I see how we are taking personal feelings into this game.

Scum monitor: Vevilaughs

comes in, says nothing, votes nothing, leaves - scum is keeping low right now and that is who we should look for. Why should they say anything when the focus is on me?

change vote: vevilaughs

Quebbster

01/21/2011, 10:33

Are you actively ignoring my posts or just not reading when I said I was helena berinelli?

Helena Kyle would probably have been a stronger claim...

MSU

01/21/2011, 10:33

It's Ber-ti-nelli, Shirley. :laugh:

And I will believe you for now.

I forgot one T....so lynch me!

PaxZRake

01/21/2011, 10:34

Yes, Pax, we know that the discussion is all about you. :cool:

Like you don't like being a neutral and messing with people's heads, you little Strawberry. :laugh:

I still love being remembered for that role :) If I ever play that well again I'll be amazed. I've only come close once.

Sweet, I made someone's list.

Pax, I just don't believe you because I think Stan wouldn't be that stupid or unfair to the rest of us. I don't think you have access to anything privileged that the rest of us couldn't get by re-reading the last game. The only difference is that you may have a source where all that info is compiled in a nice, tidy package.

I think you're asking for some doctoring because you're playing an angle. I haven't made my mind up about your alignment yet.

I do have access to privileged info.

Consider it part of my role if it makes you feel better :)