Heroclix Poll - Remakes and New makes

[super57]

Would you like to see the following DC; Marvel; and Indy Heroclix pre-carded figures, remade with different sculpts with same costume/colors, and with a slightly stronger dial that would match up with dial strengths of Avengers through HOT or DC 75th Sets, with perhaps some white powers; and a Character Card, in the next 1-3 years?

NECA could sell them in clear window Collector Sets, in between other Sets.

Also, would you like to see the figures at the end of the list, that were never made, made within the next 1-3 years, the same as mentioned above, with dial strengths in the range of Avengers through DC 75th?

Also, feel free to make other suggestions for remakes or new makes:

Remakes with Character Cards:
Magneto; Juggernaut; Sabretooth; Rogue; (coming in the next Set)
Thanos
Superman (32 yr old black haired version that is more muscular and detailed like World's Finest, but as tall as Crisis #100, and with a dial numbers like Crisis #100, but with a different trait and white powers, and flying upward like World's Finest or perpindicular to ground like Icons)
Shazam (Flying like Unleashed)
Martian Manhunter (flying like Cosmic Justice)
Hawkman
Atom (same type and size of sculpt as in Orign)
Kang
Braniac 13
Catwoman (purple costume)
Magog
Drax
Dormammu
Elektra (white skinned version in red costume)
Black Widow
Green She-Hulk
Radioactive Man
Metamorpo
Captian Atom
Parasite
Havok
Spiral (comic accurate dial)
Hyperion
Gladiator
The General (Same size as in Unleashed)
Nightmare
Superwoman
Black Bolt
Ghost Rider
Controller
Atom Smasher
Mad Thinker
Big Barda (same costume as Unleashed)
Destiny (close to same points)
Chemo
Count Nefaria
Mr. Sinister
Owlman
Queen Bee
Clayface
Huntress
Cheetah
Dr. Polaris
Captain Cold
General Zod
Ultraman
Parallax
Red Tornado
Elektro
Eclipso
Dr. Fate
Despero (Same size and pose as the Cosmic Justice Sculpt)
Mr. Mind
Indy Sister Magdalena (regen, mind control, blades, pc, outwit and as tough as Gamora). After all, there was one per generation.
Indy Witchblade

New Makes with Character Cards:
Imperiex; Eradicator; Kanjar Ro; Brimstone; Onslaught; Mageddon; Appellaxian Hord with Shock Troops; Krona; Quantum Mechanics; Asmodel; Blight Creatures; Teen Titan Argent; X-Men Rockslide; and Strong Guy.

[Norym]

I voted yes and no because I could.

[victorsage]

as a new player i would love to have a chance to attain thees older figures easily.

[CowboyBebop]

I voted yes and no because I could.

Nice. You, sir, are an inspiration.

[Wombatboy]

Wow, that's a lot of characters. Are you suggesting that the next DC and Marvel sets be nothing but remakes of previously made characters?

I also voted yes and no because I could.

[super57]

as a new player i would love to have a chance to attain thees older figures easily.

Yes, and nothing like having them in same costumes with slightly different and in some needed cases, a more detailed sculpt, with a slightly more competive dial, and a Character Card. Some or all could be offered in those clear window battle packs, in between new sets, if they have already planned their sets for the next two years, and some are not in them.

[super57]

Wow, that's a lot of characters. Are you suggesting that the next DC and Marvel sets be nothing but remakes of previously made characters?

I also voted yes and no because I could.

It is not that many, and I am sure some will be in Sets over the next two years, but they could issue them in the clear window 6-packs, or Colelctor Sets in between, in between Sets as well, if feasible. Maybe, I should say over the next 3 years.

[ChiRocker]

Yes, and nothing like having them in same costumes with slightly different and in some needed cases, a more detailed sculpt, with a slightly more competive dial, and a Character Card. Some or all could be offered in those clear window battle packs, in between new sets, if they have already planned their sets for the next two years, and some are not in them.

Are you suggesting Power Creeps?

[super57]

Are you suggesting Power Creeps?

I am suggesting the remakes and new makes have dial numbers/strenghts to match that of Avengers through HOT, or 75th Set, now that it has been released, but not made higher than that range. My previous posts regarding getting rid of Power Creep, meant I felt they should not increase dial numbers in any new sets higher than the range we have seen from Avengers through HOT or the most recent set if their was another increase. Outside of some figures comic accurate dials in HOT and possibly White Lanterns, as comared to their level of power in other comic lines, and considering Cosmic Spidy may be too high, I just think they should keep new dials in line with Avengers to present, and thus stopping any more Power Creep, from, here on in. I just think they made the game more attractive and better, since LOS with mostly new and better sculpts and paint jobs, and with Character Cards, and if they wanted to preserve the game for the ages, and keep it from dying through a drop in sales, they need to not make the figures from Avengers up to present, less competive and obsolete, particularly since they added some new game mechanics and features, with some of the more recent sets, such as Alter Egos, and web traps.

[DrugSex]

There's a lot of great sculpts on a lot of Golden Age Sets, I put a Shi sculpt on Warlord dial, a Azrael in DC75 Batman, HT Superman in DC75 Superman. Fantastic Force Spiderman in SI Spidey. Wolverine IC in WOS Puma. Ult CapAmerica in Avengers Cap, Sinister Bullseye in Wos Bullseye.

About the dials, I play HT figures this way, Add +2 to every stat in the figure and go to town.

[super57]

Are you suggesting Power Creeps?

P.S. Slightly more competive dial for re-makes and new figures, means slighly higher dial numbers than the pre-carded ones had, and about the same as the range we have seen in Avengers through HOT or DC 75th, but that is it. I feel the dial numbers cannot go higher than what we seen in these Sets, in order to maintain the integrity of the game, and so people are not afraid to invest, and so the game does not die. I will not get into this again with you anymore, but I have a strong feeling that I am right. I made a clarification.

[Mister mind]

The pol is highly unusable because the dialong it to wide based for an average player...try a more scaled down pol next time and be more specific...address 1 or two of your idea's at a time...old sculpts molds were destroyed so there not comming back (pre armor wars clix) and the dumpset at the ohio redemtion center was filled with old rev's...a former employee saved a few to send out as replacements and was fired....
neca isn't going to re-mold old figure to re introduce them.

as a compromise add 2 to the defence value and 2 to the attack on those old sets to use them in a moder age tournament, suggest it to your judge we did it here locally and it worked really well.
hope this helped.

[sleeping_giant]

heck
Yes!
Some good choices in there.
CApt ATom
onslaught
hawkman
martian manhunter

Strong guy was made in Mutations and Monsters so he would be a remake not a new creation.

[super57]

The pol is highly unusable because the dialong it to wide based for an average player...try a more scaled down pol next time and be more specific...address 1 or two of your idea's at a time...old sculpts molds were destroyed so there not comming back (pre armor wars clix) and the dumpset at the ohio redemtion center was filled with old rev's...a former employee saved a few to send out as replacements and was fired....
neca isn't going to re-mold old figure to re introduce them.

as a compromise add 2 to the defence value and 2 to the attack on those old sets to use them in a moder age tournament, suggest it to your judge we did it here locally and it worked really well.
hope this helped.

I did not mean remake them with the same mold, or res-culpt them to make them look identical, I meant for NECA to do a new different looking sculpt, but with the same costume and costume colors. However, your add 2 to AV and DV is a good idea to make old figures competive, but how do we really know that is the magic formula to make them match up. Also, I would like to have a new better sculpt and dial with Character Card.

[Paul_Hill]

The figures from Supernova and origins already have up to date dials. Figures from Legacy back I would love to some of them remade.

[Magneticlaw]

I like the selection of characters on the list. So, where's my Spiral re-make? - the CT version is one of the most comic-inaccurate figures of all time!

[Hellboy the Bellboy]

Yes, and also give me Shade.

[sparks4289]

this list is really just to big and random to really give an idea of what figures people really want to see remakes of. Your bound to please a few people if you throw enough names into it. This really gives wizkids no pertinent data whatsoever. Glad to see you understand that power creep is a nessecarry evil in some places and want to see it though. It's about time something finally sank in. As it is sure there are a couple of figures I'd love to see, however I don't agree with alot of it. (I really could care less for your vision of the perfect 'superman' figure for instance) So I voted yes, and no, because the list is just to big to give an appropriate answer.

[clameire]

this poll is biased

i would like to see remade or made : Havok, Mr. Sinister, X-Men Rockslide

some of the ones in the list i don't see why they should be remade
and others i don't care

so what should i say ? yes or no ?

that's a strange poll indeed

[gatharion]

Um, some of those I'd like to see remade/new-made, others I don't care about at all.

Thusly I voted yes and no as well.
:p

[hanzoslash]

If the poll is asking if I want more clix made, then yes I do.

[Lucky12s]

I know Blackbolt is dead, but yes I want a new Blackbolt for the Illuminati keyword.

[Nitecralwer24]

in general, they need to start making non-cookie-cutter sculpts. i was recently looking at 'older' figs like back in mutations and monsters, and the difference between them and those in dc 75th... it was astounding. just cause it isn't a rare doesn't mean he should be standing there with a dumb look on his face O.o

[Kizer]

Yes, I would love a lot of these to be remade. I am a pretty new player myself (I started during Web of Spider-man, actually) and a lot of my favorite characters existed in older sets and have yet to be remade.

[ccs]

Wow this poll is flawed.... I was able to vote both yes & no.

So you want both better dials AND better sculpts.
You do realize that this forces each one of these figures to occupy the SR slots.
And why this random selection of characters???

[Surfer13]

What sort of answer do you expect to get?

Most players want more characters. I couldn't care less about some of the figures that you list, but it doesn't mean that there aren't some people that wouldn't want them.

I could probably list 20 characters here and get the same results that you got.

Worthless data. Means nothing. Same as posting a wishlist in Dreams and Desires and getting positive responses.

I didn't even look at your list, just saw that there was one, and I can say this. I say yes, make the figures. I might only want a single one, or none at all, but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't be made (or remade). I am not one of those people that thinks that Wizkids should only make what I like, though I am disappointed with GSX, with the only non-theme pieces coming from a single niche title.

They should have had another sub-theme... Maybe the Champions, since Iceman and Angel were members. A Black Widow, Hercules, Ghost Rider, Darkstar, and Ivan Petrovich Crimson Dynamo at the expense of 5 of the chosen characters would have made a big (positive) difference to me.

I wonder how many people think that those characters shoul be made/remade?
Probably more than not.

[happyoptimistic88]

A definite yes!!! :) :) :)

Would you like to see the following DC; Marvel; and Indy Heroclix pre-carded figures, remade with different sculpts, and with a slightly stronger dial that would match up with dial strengths of Avengers through HOT or DC 75th Sets, with perhaps some white powers; and a Character Card, in the next 1-3 years?

Also, would you like to see the figures at the end of the list, that were never made, made within the next 1-2 years, the same as mentioned above, with dial strengths in the range of Avengers through DC 75th?

Of course we know they may be coming, but help me give Wizkids a push, and vote "Yes" Also, please just vote yes or no, and not both.

Also, feel free to make other suggestions for remakes or new makes:

Remakes with Character Cards:
Magneto; Juggernaut; Sabretooth; Rogue; (coming in the next Set)
Thanos
Superman (30 yr old black hair & more muscular and detailed like World's Finest, but as tall as Crisis #100 with similar dial, and flying upward like World's Finest or perpindicular to ground like Icons)
Shazam
Martian Manhunter (flying like Cosmic Justice)
Hawkman (same type of sculpt and costume as in Origin)
Atom (same type if sculpt and costume as in Orign)
Kang
Braniac 13
Catwoman (Purple Costume from Hypertime)
Magog
Drax
Dormammu
Elektra (white skinned version in red costume)
Black Widow
Green She-Hulk
Radioactive Man
Metamorpo
Captian Atom
Parasite
Havok
Spiral
Hyperion
Gladiator
The General (same size and type of sculpt as in Unleashed Set)
Nightmare
Superwoman
Black Bolt
Ghost Rider
Controller
Atom Smasher
Mad Thinker
Big Barda (same costume as Unleashed)
Destiny (close to same points)
Chemo
Count Nefaria
Mr. Sinister
Owlman
Queen Bee
Clayface
Huntress
Cheetah
Dr. Polaris
Captain Cold
General Zod
Ultraman
Parallax
Red Tornado
Elektro
Eclipso
Dr. Fate
Despero (Cosmic Justice Sculpt)
Mr. Mind
Indy Sister Magdalena (regen, mind control, blades, pc, outwit and as tough as Gamora).
Indy Witchblade

New Makes with Character Cards:
Imperiex; Eradicator; Kanjar Ro; Brimstone; Onslaught; Mageddon; Appellaxian Hord with Shock Troops; Krona; Quantum Mechanics; Asmodel; Blight Creatures; Teen Titan Argent; X-Men Rockslide; and Strong Guy.

[Roderic_Cliche]

Gimme new MOJO.

Gimme new colossal MOJO complete with a replaceable voice chip in him and a foam rubber stomach and a good dial. :D

[greatonecossy]

Yes on almost all of these. Especailly as I didn't start playing the game until just before the original Wizkids was closed down, and I find it hard playing golden age versions of alot of these figures in games against modern age characters.

[super57]

I like the selection of characters on the list. So, where's my Spiral re-make? - the CT version is one of the most comic-inaccurate figures of all time!

Thanks. It was a combination of favorites, and some of the best sculpts for the time. I agree with your comment. Hey, Wizkids, how about a Spiral remake, that is comic accurate.

[super57]

this list is really just to big and random to really give an idea of what figures people really want to see remakes of. Your bound to please a few people if you throw enough names into it. This really gives wizkids no pertinent data whatsoever. Glad to see you understand that power creep is a nessecarry evil in some places and want to see it though. It's about time something finally sank in. As it is sure there are a couple of figures I'd love to see, however I don't agree with alot of it. (I really could care less for your vision of the perfect 'superman' figure for instance) So I voted yes, and no, because the list is just to big to give an appropriate answer.

Power Creep is not an necessary evil. They can make the same if not more money without it, with making so many new sculpts and different versions of dials, along with special game features, and new Set themes. People will buy to have the new sculpt and different dail version, regardless if the dial numbers do not go up any higher from what we seen in Avengers through SI or HOT or DC 75th. Therfore, any new remakes with same costumes, should have dial strengths in line with their previous versions in Avengers through HOT or DC 75th Sets, or if new, in line with dial strengths respective of their character, in the same range as other similiar characters in Avengers through Hammer of Thor, with added special powers. Otherwise, kiss the game goodbye a second time. They have to do this to keep the integrity of what is left of the game, and their best product from a sculpt; special powers; and character card standpoint. They can do a good mix of dial strength in the range of these Sets. They only retired one set so far where the figures came with Character Cards, so they consider the dial strengths to be competitive still for Avengers through DC 75th, and so there is still a chance to perserve the game with the figures that came with Cards. I also think they should include LOS back in Modern Age, since they came with Character Cards. Again just my intuition talking, and my preference. If they keep raising dial numbers, I will stop buying. I just consider spending hundreds of dollars to purchase figures, only to see them become obsolete, a waste of money. I love most of the Sculpts in Avengers through HOT, and would hate to not be able to use them against future Set figures, especially since the Sculpts are getting worse. I love the game and do not want to see it die, but in my opinion, it is going that direction, with what I have seen since the HOT Set, and those dial numbers may have even gone up a pinch too much.

[super57]

Yes on almost all of these. Especailly as I didn't start playing the game until just before the original Wizkids was closed down, and I find it hard playing golden age versions of alot of these figures in games against modern age characters.

I am the same as you, and feel this way also for these reasons. I started a few months before they went out of business. I got rid of the majority of my non-carded figures, for the same reason. I am hoping that Wizkids realized Power Creep (increase in dial number strength) hurst sales or keeps their sales from growing, and keeps dial strengths in a range between LOS or Avengers up through HOT or DC75th, or Giant X-Men, if they have not been increased. They can make as much of not more, with new sculpts (after all it is a collectible game), and different dial arrangements and special white powers, and game features, and new Set themes. I cannot see how anyone would stop buying if they cannot have continual increase in dial strength so they can never use their already purhases figures again. Does not make sense, unless you have money to burn, and could care less about whether you can play a figure with a Sculpt you like anymore. I had a Poll on elimination of Power Creep and about half the voters did not want it anymore. I see other Threads where people are against it. I am suspicous of those who bash the concept of eliminating Power Creep. The game cannot survive with it.

[super57]

What sort of answer do you expect to get?

Most players want more characters. I couldn't care less about some of the figures that you list, but it doesn't mean that there aren't some people that wouldn't want them.

I could probably list 20 characters here and get the same results that you got.

Worthless data. Means nothing. Same as posting a wishlist in Dreams and Desires and getting positive responses.

I didn't even look at your list, just saw that there was one, and I can say this. I say yes, make the figures. I might only want a single one, or none at all, but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't be made (or remade). I am not one of those people that thinks that Wizkids should only make what I like, though I am disappointed with GSX, with the only non-theme pieces coming from a single niche title.

They should have had another sub-theme... Maybe the Champions, since Iceman and Angel were members. A Black Widow, Hercules, Ghost Rider, Darkstar, and Ivan Petrovich Crimson Dynamo at the expense of 5 of the chosen characters would have made a big (positive) difference to me.

I wonder how many people think that those characters shoul be made/remade?
Probably more than not.

I do think Wizkids should just have made a Set that was all X-Men, that way they could have got some others in, as you mentioned. I would like to see the figures I listed remade with some others, with different Sculpts, but the same costume and costume colors, since I like some of their original costumes. I forgot Falcon and Angel in their red and white costumes.

[super57]

in general, they need to start making non-cookie-cutter sculpts. i was recently looking at 'older' figs like back in mutations and monsters, and the difference between them and those in dc 75th... it was astounding. just cause it isn't a rare doesn't mean he should be standing there with a dumb look on his face O.o

Agreed. The best sculpts the did were the ones from LOS though HOT. I believe Wizkids had at that time, in-house US base sculptors, and they were all hand sculpted, as opposed to digital design, starting with Brave and Bold. All figures in Sets since HOT, were somethwhat smaller; are possibly all digitally designed, and lack detail and quality paint jobs and paint; and lack action poses. The same sculpt for more than one Character. What an insult to their buyer base. The duo figures were an embarrsment, and looked like bubble gum machine toys, and if the old Wizkids was a person who had died, they would be rolling in their grave. It is as if, they want to make a Collectible Game mean, just sell figures in blind boosters, and not, the figures should be of a quality that people want to collect them. The Sculpts in the DC Sets since HOT are terrible and too small. There were some nice sculpts, in WOS, such as Red Hulk; Groot; Dr. Octopus; Sandman; and maybe Red She-Hulk, but that is it. They should have used a more detailed slightly larger Spiderman, like the one from the BIBT, with the pose of the one from Heroscape shooting a web out of it's hand. And what is it with yellow colored web traps. The design part is gone by the waste side.

I do not want to collect the mostly poor sculpts since HOT. I am betting retail sales are dropping, due to the the poor sculpts on a whole as compared to what they were doing up to HOT, and due to 10 Chase figures, and the mistake of more Power Creep, when they had a chance to stop it, and at least preserve the carded figures (their best idea along with new hand sclupts from LOS through HOT). I think they are commiting suicide. I wish I had the mone to buy it from them to save the game.

[super57]

this poll is biased

i would like to see remade or made : Havok, Mr. Sinister, X-Men Rockslide

some of the ones in the list i don't see why they should be remade
and others i don't care

so what should i say ? yes or no ?

that's a strange poll indeed

I added Havok and Mr. Sinister. Rockslide is mentioned at the bottom under new made.

[Clclix]

Yes? There are too many mentioned character, the poll is kinda too broad, its almost like asking do you want heroclix made within the next 1-2 years.

[super57]

Wow this poll is flawed.... I was able to vote both yes & no.

So you want both better dials AND better sculpts.
You do realize that this forces each one of these figures to occupy the SR slots.
And why this random selection of characters???

They could offer them in clear window Collectors Sets in between their main Set releases. I picked the ones that I did since they are my comic favorites that have either not been made again with competive dials, as compared to Avengers and HOT or DC 75th, and with Character Cards, and since I want a Carded version with a better dial, in the same original costumes/colors. You are just supposed to pick yes or no? That is what a yes or no poll is for. You agree with all or none of the ideas and concepts posed?

[super57]

Yes? There are too many mentioned character, the poll is kinda too broad, its almost like asking do you want heroclix made within the next 1-2 years.

Essentially, I am suggesting to have them made again with slightly different Sculpts, but with the same costumes/colors, so that we get a competitive version in the same costume, with a Character Card.

[sparks4289]

Power Creep is not an necessary evil. They can make the same if not more money without it, with making so many new sculpts and different versions of dials, along with special game features, and new Set themes. People will buy to have the new sculpt and different dail version, regardless if the dial numbers do not go up any higher from what we seen in Avengers through SI or HOT or DC 75th. Therfore, any new remakes with same costumes, should have dial strengths in line with their previous versions in Avengers through HOT or DC 75th Sets, or if new, in line with dial strengths respective of their character, in the same range as other similiar characters in Avengers through Hammer of Thor, with added special powers.

Competitive players want the new hotness, nothing you have said changes that fact. They want an edge and are willing to pay for it. You seem to think this game is strictly for collectors, when it's not. It's also for the hardcore gamers. You really have no clue what 'people will buy' You only know what 'you will buy'

Otherwise, kiss the game goodbye a second time.

the dying of the game the first time had absolutely NOTHING to do with set retirement, chases, sculpts, or power creep. It was completely based on topps getting in over their head and selling off a valuable asset so they could survive. I'd link you to the thread where I proved this to you once before but you apparently didn't read it then, so why should I think you will read it now.

They have to do this to keep the integrity of what is left of the game, and their best product from a sculpt; special powers; and character card standpoint.

Integrity of the game? Do you even have a clue what you are talking about here? In general dials are becoming more and more comic accurate, we are getting higher numbers but less clicks, special powers that bring depth to a figure.

Yes, SOME sculpt quality has gone down, but the real problem that you have yet to even begin to touch on, is quality control (figures on the wrong dials, missing parts on figures etc etc) Those problems are what is going to hurt the integrity of the game.

They only retired one set so far where the figures came with Character Cards, so they consider the dial strengths to be competitive still for Avengers through DC 75th, and so there is still a chance to perserve the game with the figures that came with Cards. I also think they should include LOS back in Modern Age, since they came with Character Cards.

Set retirement is part of the game, has been since long before you were ever playing it. Set retirement also has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH DIALS AND NUMBERS. It is based strictly on when the set was released, nothing else. I look forward to the day Crisis Supes is no longer Modern age legal. (which should be coming this year hopefully!)

Again just my intuition talking, and my preference.

the most accurate statement you have said to date

If they keep raising dial numbers, I will stop buying. I just consider spending hundreds of dollars to purchase figures, only to see them become obsolete, a waste of money. I love most of the Sculpts in Avengers through HOT, and would hate to not be able to use them against future Set figures, especially since the Sculpts are getting worse.

Luckily for you there is this thing, it's called 'golden age' Where all figures from all sets (with the exception of 'promo' figures) are completely 100% tournament legal, and by no means obsolete.

I love the game and do not want to see it die, but in my opinion, it is going that direction, with what I have seen since the HOT Set, and those dial numbers may have even gone up a pinch too much.

Then you aren't looking (or reading, your just randomly shouting your opinion and demanding everyone take it for fact) Sales are up, way up. Justin's already announced that it looks like GSX is going to outsell DC75th. Wizkids/NECA is doing fine. Keep up the good work guys.

[sparks4289]

I do think Wizkids should just have made a Set that was all X-Men, that way they could have got some others in, as you mentioned. I would like to see the figures I listed remade with some others, with different Sculpts, but the same costume and costume colors, since I like some of their original costumes. I forgot Falcon and Angel in their red and white costumes.

Wizkids doesn't have complete control over what figures are in the sets. Making an entire x-men set would be fine, if it was a small micro-set like GL or Captain America. Making a full set that ONLY has x-men figures in it is targetting your audience to thin and just asking for sales to drop. I thought you wanted to SAVE wizkids??????????

[super57]

Wizkids doesn't have complete control over what figures are in the sets. Making an entire x-men set would be fine, if it was a small micro-set like GL or Captain America. Making a full set that ONLY has x-men figures in it is targetting your audience to thin and just asking for sales to drop. I thought you wanted to SAVE wizkids??????????

I meant, X-Men Collector Sets.

Look, I am going to request you stop responding to my Polls and Threads. Every message you send if full of personal attack comments. If I see one more like that, I will report it as harrassment. How is it that you are so knowing? Are you a Wizkids employee?

[super57]

Competitive players want the new hotness, nothing you have said changes that fact. They want an edge and are willing to pay for it. You seem to think this game is strictly for collectors, when it's not. It's also for the hardcore gamers. You really have no clue what 'people will buy' You only know what 'you will buy'



the dying of the game the first time had absolutely NOTHING to do with set retirement, chases, sculpts, or power creep. It was completely based on topps getting in over their head and selling off a valuable asset so they could survive. I'd link you to the thread where I proved this to you once before but you apparently didn't read it then, so why should I think you will read it now.



Integrity of the game? Do you even have a clue what you are talking about here? In general dials are becoming more and more comic accurate, we are getting higher numbers but less clicks, special powers that bring depth to a figure.

Yes, SOME sculpt quality has gone down, but the real problem that you have yet to even begin to touch on, is quality control (figures on the wrong dials, missing parts on figures etc etc) Those problems are what is going to hurt the integrity of the game.



Set retirement is part of the game, has been since long before you were ever playing it. Set retirement also has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH DIALS AND NUMBERS. It is based strictly on when the set was released, nothing else. I look forward to the day Crisis Supes is no longer Modern age legal. (which should be coming this year hopefully!)



the most accurate statement you have said to date



Luckily for you there is this thing, it's called 'golden age' Where all figures from all sets (with the exception of 'promo' figures) are completely 100% tournament legal, and by no means obsolete.



Then you aren't looking (or reading, your just randomly shouting your opinion and demanding everyone take it for fact) Sales are up, way up. Justin's already announced that it looks like GSX is going to outsell DC75th. Wizkids/NECA is doing fine. Keep up the good work guys.

Please refrain from making personal attack comments. I cannot be fooled and feel Wholesale sales was up the last two Sets, since they had to make more to make it more possible to get the 10 Chase figure, and allotment was bad in DC75th, or more interest in Marvel, caused them to make more of X-Men Sets. The sales NECA reports is the sales to their Distributors, and does not reflect whether their retail sales are up. How can they be with Stores not selling all of their Cases, or having to sell Boosters at 50% off. I feel that Blind Booster concept; Power Creep; and Chase figures killed the game the first time, and adding of 10 Chase figures was the nail in the coffin, and the recent bad sculpt design and quality, will be the dirt on the coffin. There is no forsight, and when money takes precedent over doing what is necessary for the long run to keep a game alive and increase sales, the game will die. They are making enough money to make these chanes without dying. They just want to make more, but there business plan will once again be detrimental to the game. I will bet there are less hardcore gamers who do not care about whether their purchased figures and sculpts become obsolete, than there are ones who do want to see Power Creep and Chase figures go away. Topps was not smart enough to make changes as Wizkids. I will not buy again, if there is another Power Creep and they do not go back to the more detailed and slightly larger hand sculpts of Avengers through HOT. I also will never agree with you, so save your breath and stop replying to my Polls and Threads, which is becoming harrassing.

[sparks4289]

I cannot be fooled and feel Wholesale sales was up the last two Sets, since they had to make more to make it more possible to get the 10 Chase figure, and allotment was bad in DC75th, or more interest in Marvel, caused them to make more of X-Men Sets.

so you can't be fooled by things like... numbers???

The sales NECA reports is the sales to their Distributors, and does not reflect whether their retail sales are up. How can they be with Stores not selling all of their Cases, or having to sell Boosters at 50% off.

Ok fine, show us somewhere that has DC75th at 50% off. Give me a link. HAVE SOME PROOF TO BACK UP YOUR WORDS.

You can't do it because there isn't anywhere selling DC75th at 50% off because they have to much stock. There might be a case or two sitting in a shop here or there across the country, but overall the set is completely mostly sold out. Do some real research. No one is selling DC75th for 50% off.

I feel that Blind Booster concept; Power Creep; and Chase figures killed the game the first time, and adding of 10 Chase figures was the nail in the coffin, and the recent bad sculpt design and quality, will be the dirt on the coffin.

Luckily for us, your 'feelings' about what caused the game to die mean nothing. We know EXACTLY why the game died, and it had nothing to do with chases or power creeps. You can see a full explanation including links to articles breaking down the HISTORY of what happened here. (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=299947&page=4) Please actually take the time to read it for once instead of just responding with the same thing over and over again, as I posted it mostly for your benefit.

There is no forsight, and when money takes precedent over doing what is necessary for the long run to keep a game alive and increase sales, the game will die. They are making enough money to make these chanes without dying. They just want to make more, but there business plan will once again be detrimental to the game.

If the company is making money hand over fist, then they will continue to keep pumping out sets. It's really not a difficult concept to understand.

I will bet there are less hardcore gamers who do not care about whether their purchased figures and sculpts become obsolete, than there are ones who do want to see Power Creep and Chase figures go away. Topps was not smart enough to make changes as Wizkids. I will not buy again, if there is another Power Creep and they do not go back to the more detailed and slightly larger hand sculpts of Avengers through HOT.

Then let your wallet do your talking. No one is making you buy heroclix. It's not a simple matter of pleasing JUST the collectors. You have to please the gamers to, period. Or this might as well just be a set of sculptures with no dials. You are trying to force the direction of this game into your own highly skewed perception of what it should be. I like the direction they are taking the game and will continue to support the product. When they do something I don't like (like GSX) then I'm simply not going to buy it. I'd suggest you do the same.


I also will never agree with you, so save your breath and stop replying to my Polls and Threads, which is becoming harrassing.

Glad to know you are so close minded as to completely ignore well known facts because you have a personal issue with me. Thats a great way to get your point across......

No one is harrassing you. If you want to spam the forums with poorly written polls that have limited choices and then start screaming that the sky is falling and wizkids is dead, I'm going to call you out on it. If you don't like people telling you what they think of your polls, then quit posting stupid polls.

Luckily these forums are moderated by people who actually know what harrassment is. If they feel I have stepped over the line I'm sure they will be the first to let me know. Until then, I will continue to post.

[DemonRS]

No one is harrassing you. If you want to spam the forums with poorly written polls that have limited choices and then start screaming that the sky is falling and wizkids is dead, I'm going to call you out on it. If you don't like people telling you what they think of your polls, then quit posting stupid polls.

Luckily these forums are moderated by people who actually know what harrassment is. If they feel I have stepped over the line I'm sure they will be the first to let me know. Until then, I will continue to post.

Super57..
Frankly I've got to echo this statement written above. Further I've got to add to it that this is a discussion forum.. So you're going to get discussion that follows with your thoughts and against your thoughts, and people are entitled to such thoughts.. Because of such you'll need to not see everyone who disagrees as "trolling you" or "harassing you" but people who are part of the community for the same reason you are.. Discussion..

If you REALLY want to post polls you need to write them a bit better to make the scope of the poll a bit better..
Generally users of HCR don't particularly like being hit with poll after poll after poll especially when they aren't very well written/thought out.

On top of that when you want someone to pick only one.
In fact there's a box on the bottom that you are PICKING to let people choose multiple answers when the answer choices are yes/no.

It says this: Allow multiple choice: Give users the ability to select more than one answer
Don't check that if you want 1 choice picked...

Next.. I see you reporting all the posts.. all the mods see it.. But please keep in mind that a lot of the stuff that you seem to not agree upon with people and people discussing the points back (or explaining why your polls are biased/don't make sense/etc) are doing just that.. discussing/giving you suggestions to make your polls better..

Frankly looking at your posts I see tons of "walls of text" instead of well articulated points, which tends to put you in a negative light amongst peers.

That's not to discourage you from posting polls but there's a lot that can be done to a) improve your polls and b) get people to take you more seriously. I mean really look at your question you're polling..

Do you want to see the characters that I'd like remade, remade?
Why does that need a poll? How about a discussion thread of, "what characters would you like to see remade" Instead of people saying yes/no to what you've posted as things you want?

In fact you say it here:

They could offer them in clear window Collectors Sets in between their main Set releases. I picked the ones that I did since they are my comic favorites that have either not been made again with competive dials, as compared to Avengers and HOT or DC 75th, and with Character Cards, and since I want a Carded version with a better dial, in the same original costumes/colors. You are just supposed to pick yes or no? That is what a yes or no poll is for. You agree with all or none of the ideas and concepts posed?

That's what you want.. That doesn't leave much discussion.. It's like.. Do you agree with me or not? Again I ask.. why is that a poll?