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PuNi$hEr
03/09/2003, 23:02
This a good 400pt team?!


(R) Swamp Thing
(R)Thor
(R)Bane
(U)Nick Fury
(Exp) White Queen
(R) Checkmate medic
any1 else good for this team, or any1 i should replace?

Thor665
03/09/2003, 23:49
Greetings,

For teams (unless you are building them more for fun and themes) you should always try to maximize your actions. The general rule of thumb is double the characters for the actions per turn. (To wit, in 400pts you get 4 actions a turn, thus 8 characters. That way every action is being used) With this in mind let's consider your force;

(R) Swamp Thing
(R)Thor
(R)Bane
(U)Nick Fury
(Exp) White Queen
(R) Checkmate medic

Six units, that's arguably 2 wasted actions every two turns (not even counting the fact that THor is a free mover, Fury has leadership, and the medic usually won't be moved.

Here's a second point to ponder. Attack effectiveness. Generally you want to be able to get your character up and attack in one turn. That way you don't have the ol' Move up. Wait a turn to pass. Then attack. Since usually that pass turn is where you get pounded, and even if you push you could be in trouble. (F'rinstance. You move Swamp Thing into base to base with opponent's Solomon Grundy. On his turn your opponent hits with Solomon Grundy *and* shoots you with someone else. You push to attack (taking even more damage) or pass and maybe let him attack again. Rough choice, ain't it?

The best way around this is with people who can move *and* attack (units with running shot or charge). Or units that are carried in by a flyer (aka the taxis) Let's look again.

(R) Swamp Thing--He walks or is carried.
(R)Thor--Nice! Running shot *and* he can carry someone
(R)Bane--Walking
(U)Nick Fury--Running Shot, pretty good
(Exp) White Queen--Another pedestrian
(R) Checkmate medic--I too, walk.

So you can see you have limited ways to get everyone into the fight quickly. Maybe Swamp Thing can phase around while Thor carries Bane, but White Queen is left in the dust (and not helping you out) While Fury *may* be up there, but if he's using hidering terrain he might not be moving too quickly.

So, in conclusion (yeah, *that* was a quick read) I'd say your force is a little cumbersome to move around, and will be passing a lot, because they have more actions then you have figures to use them. Some ideas to help...

Consider Solomon Grundy instead of Swamp Thing. The rookie has as many clixs (though only toughness) and also has some super strength for getting objects.

With the extra points you can add another flyer to move around White Queen. Someone like Vulture, Booster Gold, Manbat, ect. (Booster can be nice, as he has a decent attack and damage value+good range. He's a fighter/taxi)

You might also consider two cheaper ranged units instead of Fury, that leadership isn't helping you much after all. Good harrassing shooters include Bullseye, Boomerang, Hawkeye, Robin, Huntress, Booster Gold, Blue Beetle, SHIELD Snipers.

SOme thoughts,
Thor.

PuNi$hEr
03/10/2003, 08:16
k thanx, would a exp. Blastaar be good?