View Full Version : 100 Bullets: A Foregone Tomorrow
Jackofhearts2005
03/01/2011, 19:15
1) Deadshot
2) MSU
3) Darq
4) Stranger
5) Get1 (briefly DocDoom187)
6) Coyotejack
7) Chirocker
8) Malakim
Out of the game:
Silver Lantern (Wylie Times - Alignment Town)
PaxZRake (Hank Kowalski - Alignment Neutral)
Dbauers (Mr. Shepherd - Alignment Town)
Mbauers (Doctor Dan - Alignment Town)
Morpheousdr3am3r (Dizzy - Alignment Town)
Day One (http://hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5366450&postcount=75)
Night One (http://hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5369517&postcount=76)
Day Two (http://hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5375623&postcount=242)
Night Two (http://hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5378085&postcount=243)
Day Three (http://hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5384943&postcount=451)
Night Three (http://hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5387732&postcount=452)
Day Four (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5397354&postcount=642)
Night Four (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5407651&postcount=643)
Day Five (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5411399&postcount=697)
Night Five (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5411784&postcount=698)
Jackofhearts2005
03/01/2011, 19:39
Rules
1) Don’t pm anyone about this game or discuss it outside of this thread unless your role permits it.
2) Don’t quote your role pm. Don’t post a link to the picture from your role pm either.
3) If anything about the writeup confuses you, feel free to ask me about it. I will give you a play by play of the entire book if you think it’ll help you play better or enjoy the game more. Last game, the main questions asked were for clarification on safeclaims and other players' roleclaims.
4) CoyoteJack, DarqFeonix and Deadshot are members of the Trust. They cannot be nightkilled.
What you missed if you didn't play in the first three games...
The Trust, the most powerful crime syndicate in the country, is made up of thirteen families. To defend themselves against outsiders and each other, the Trust enlisted the aid of the Minutemen, seven elite hitmen and their leader, Agent Graves. When the Minutemen refused to do a job for the Trust, the Trust had them killed…or so they thought.
Now, Graves has reappeared, very much alive and gunning for the Trust. As for the Minutemen, they've been hidden, hypnotized into false lives that only Graves can wake them up from.
Returning Characters
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=216&pictureid=14794
Agent Graves aka the old man provides potential allies with an attaché case. Inside is a picture of a person, proof that the person ruined his life and a gun with one hundred untraceable bullets to seek revenge.
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=216&pictureid=14795
Mr. Shepherd is the former liaison between the Trust and the Minutemen. Though he still works for the Trust, he is also a long time friend of Graves’s and it was through his actions that Graves and his Minutemen are still alive. While his ultimate allegiance remains unclear, he has a strong interest in keeping Dizzy and Benito safe.
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=216&pictureid=14796
Cole Burns aka the wolf is a former ice cream man, a life constructed for him by Graves and Shepherd. Upon hearing the world “Croatoa,” Burns woke up from his false life and resumed his old one as one of the Minutemen and Graves’s right hand man.
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=216&pictureid=14798
Dizzy Cordova’s life was ruined when her husband and child were gunned down in a drive by shooting. Graves gave her an attaché, allowing her to kill one of the men responsible for her family’s deaths, though she ultimately failed to kill the other. Mr. Shepherd has taken her under his wing, under the impression that she needs more training before she can truly become a Minuteman.
Jackofhearts2005
03/02/2011, 16:42
Night Zero
“I don’t know what the midget’s been telling you but see, us Minutemen, we work for Graves. And him alone. Be seeing you, Diz.”
The short fat man thought for a moment on this new information, what it meant for him and the girl. “Dizzy, I’d like you to tell something to Mr. Shepherd. Tell him that you’re dangerous, very dangerous. You belong to him.”
"Hell I do! Mr. Shepherd, he don own me.”
“No, he doesn’t and he’ll get hurt bad if he tries to take you. You tell him that you belong to Graves.”
___________________________________________
One month later
Atlantic City, New Jersey
A group of players gathered in a back room of a casino for a game of poker.
“Here’s the flop” the dealer told the two players who were still in. He flipped over the jack of diamonds. “Hook. Hank?”
“Check bet” the middle aged man said, not looking up from his cards.
“Fifteen thou” the blonde kid said, pushing the money into the middle of the table.
“Wha? Look kid, I don got that kinda money. Tong, we got table stakes or what?”
“C’mon Hank” the dealer said. “This is a private game. House rules on the casino floor, not in here.”
Hank sighed. “Make the call.”
“Hey Dom, it’s Tong. Got a player, suite game. Wants to go into the house for twelve large…Hank.” Tong frowned and closed his phone. “Sorry, Hank.”
Hank slowly rose from his chair. He tossed down his two jacks in front of the blonde haired kid.
“Did you beat that you ####in punk?”
“I won didn’t I?”
Jackofhearts2005 is still alive. He is Agent Graves, giver of untraceable bullets.
Day One begins now. With 13 players in the game, 7 votes is majority. You have 48 hours.
Rule 4 is interesting....
malakim2099
03/02/2011, 16:49
Fascinating. I like it.
Here and ready to give this a try.
DarqFeonix
03/02/2011, 17:03
2) Don’t quote your role pm. Don’t post a link to the picture from your role pm either.
Ha!
4) CoyoteJack, DarqFeonix and Deadshot are members of the Trust. They cannot be nightkilled.
Hmph, interesting inclusion.
This will be interesting. Need to read Foregone again tonight.
deadshot042
03/02/2011, 17:06
Hi boys. Ready to get rid of these pesky minutemen?
DarqFeonix
03/02/2011, 17:10
Being a poker player, that scene always bothered me. You can't push someone out of a game by betting more money than they have.
Plus, the flop has three cards, not one Jack turned over.
Jackofhearts2005
03/02/2011, 17:20
Being a poker player, that scene always bothered me. You can't push someone out of a game by betting more money than they have.
Plus, the flop has three cards, not one Jack turned over.
That first part kinda bothered me but I figured, I just didn't know enough about back room poker games. The second, less, because I forget which one is the floop, turn, river, whatever. :p
There's also the fact that they call/fold out of order.
Silver Lantern
03/02/2011, 17:59
So does being in the trust make them town? Or can they still be scum? I think 1 of them is probably scum if they were all town it would be unfair to the mafia to start with 3 confirmed townies.
I can't tell what their alignment would be based on my role, cause I'm just some chump, unfortunately. I was hoping to relive my past life as the Ice Cream man. Damn you Joh! ;)
malakim2099
03/02/2011, 18:10
Well, I'm just happy to be here, and I hope I can help the ball club.
Silver Lantern
03/02/2011, 18:38
Well, I'm just happy to be here, and I hope I can help the ball club.
Oh god, YOU'RE in this game... :p
Vote: Mal
malakim2099
03/02/2011, 18:45
Oh god, YOU'RE in this game... :p
Vote: Mal
Ah, vendettas. So futile.
Vote: SL
Really, one would think you'd be over this by now. :cheeky:
Silver Lantern
03/02/2011, 18:48
Ah, vendettas. So futile.
Vote: SL
Really, one would think you'd be over this by now. :cheeky:
Really? A retaliation vote and a cry of vendetta is all you got?
Scummer here fellas, clearly trying to derail his own lynch... :p
*sigh* thanks for not giving me a nightkill, JoH. :disappointed:
vote: msu
im not a scummo, so he DEFINATELY is
malakim2099
03/02/2011, 18:54
Really? A retaliation vote and a cry of vendetta is all you got?
Scummer here fellas, clearly trying to derail his own lynch... :p
No, I think you're the scummer, since with all this talk about a vendetta for me... you clearly decided to pick out someone who has made repeated claims not to be that familiar with the material.
Combining that with the fact that you did not vote for me D1 in other games recently (thus negating any vendetta claims), leads me to think you are a scummer who's trying to get easy pressure on someone unfamiliar with this setting.
Silver Lantern
03/02/2011, 19:01
Nonsense. If I were scum I would play it much safer, and you know it. I'm not afraid to claim since I have a town claim to back me up, not so sure you can say the same, so lets see where people go with this.
BTW, I am voting for you more to mess with you cause I think it's funny than for any vendetta, which I never honestly had.
malakim2099
03/02/2011, 19:02
Nonsense. If I were scum I would play it much safer, and you know it. I'm not afraid to claim since I have a town claim to back me up, not so sure you can say the same, so lets see where people go with this.
BTW, I am voting for you more to mess with you cause I think it's funny than for any vendetta, which I never honestly had.
Oh, I can claim town easy enough. But considering the fact that yes, I am unfamiliar with the setting? I'd rather not.
After all, why make the mafia's job any easier for them? ;)
Silver Lantern
03/02/2011, 19:04
Is this your first 100 Bullets game?
BTW, I am not familiar with the material either, other than my exposure to all the other games in this line.
malakim2099
03/02/2011, 19:16
Is this your first 100 Bullets game?
BTW, I am not familiar with the material either, other than my exposure to all the other games in this line.
It is. I've avoided it before, mainly because I don't know the material.
This time, though, I was invited, so I figured I'd give it a try.
As a show of good faith. Remove Vote for the moment.
D1 pressure in a game of this size seems a touch unwise.
DarqFeonix
03/02/2011, 19:34
If I was a Doctor, I'd totes target DocDoom tonight.
Mostly 'cause looking at that player list, DocDoom would probably be who I'd target if I had a kill power.
But I don't.
Probably.
DarqFeonix
03/02/2011, 19:35
...you know, I realize I used the word 'totes' there. I intentionally did it. Just to see how it felt.
I feel horrible now.
Jackofhearts2005
03/02/2011, 19:41
Scott Pilgrim says "totes" so it isn't that bad.
Silver Lantern
03/02/2011, 20:05
It is. I've avoided it before, mainly because I don't know the material.
This time, though, I was invited, so I figured I'd give it a try.
As a show of good faith. Remove Vote for the moment.
D1 pressure in a game of this size seems a touch unwise.
Well if you're not gonna get pissy and mad this won't be any fun... ;)
Remove vote to return the show of good faith.
malakim2099
03/02/2011, 20:07
...you know, I realize I used the word 'totes' there. I intentionally did it. Just to see how it felt.
I feel horrible now.
So you should. :p
Silver Lantern
03/02/2011, 20:07
If I was a Doctor, I'd totes target DocDoom tonight.
Mostly 'cause looking at that player list, DocDoom would probably be who I'd target if I had a kill power.
But I don't.
Probably.
If I were a killer, I'd target me tonight, cause I'm on a streak of dying D1/N1s in game and I want to set a record...
Or maybe I'm a PGO fishing for some scum, who can really know...
*sigh* thanks for not giving me a nightkill, JoH. :disappointed:
vote: msu
im not a scummo, so he DEFINATELY is
2 out of three games i am responsible for your death in this genre (I was a neutral bounty hunter in both of those games with dbauers as my target) and you are still not over it.
I don't know if I believe if you have a nightkill or not...cause if you do, whether you are pro-town or not, I am a dead man!
malakim2099
03/02/2011, 20:34
If I were a killer, I'd target me tonight, cause I'm on a streak of dying D1/N1s in game and I want to set a record...
Or maybe I'm a PGO fishing for some scum, who can really know...
You know, you got a long way to go before you catch up with Rokk, let alone myself or get_1.
I think get_1 probably has the record in that by now, though I'm a close second I'm sure. ;)
I'm town, and given the character I have, I can't really understand how the Trust could also be town. Maybe neutral, but I don't see how we could be connected. I think we should just vote off all of the trust, personally. And if that's the minutemen's objective, so be it.
Thoughts?
DarqFeonix
03/02/2011, 21:17
I'm town, and given the character I have, I can't really understand how the Trust could also be town. Maybe neutral, but I don't see how we could be connected. I think we should just vote off all of the trust, personally. And if that's the minutemen's objective, so be it.
Thoughts?
Mr. Bauers, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this game is now dumber for having listened to it.
@mbauers - right now, we have NO IDEA what could make up the mafia. It could be minutemen, t could be Trust, it could be someone else (I don't know the story, relying on others). I find your statement...odd. Like you are suggesting a vote but didn't vote.
coyotejack
03/03/2011, 02:29
Sorry for the delay, folks. My wife's Step-Dad is in the hospital so this is the first chance I've had to get on.
coyotejack
03/03/2011, 02:39
I'm town, and given the character I have, I can't really understand how the Trust could also be town. Maybe neutral, but I don't see how we could be connected. I think we should just vote off all of the trust, personally. And if that's the minutemen's objective, so be it.
Thoughts?
I'm not going to be as harsh as Darq but, yes, voting off the Trust would not be in your best interest...unless you're scum. You know we can't be night killed so (at first glance) that puts us in a bad situation in some people's eyes...unless you think it through.
coyotejack
03/03/2011, 02:45
And Kudos once again for the game, JoH. This is going to be a fun one once again.
Mr Stranger
03/03/2011, 04:12
Checking in, I'm glad this game has started.
ChiRocker
03/03/2011, 07:59
Hurry for a new game! I hope I do not get utterly lost!
PaxZRake
03/03/2011, 08:21
Well, we know that one member of The Trust is going to be Graves' and Cole's target. Which means the Minutemen need to lynch him, which should be tough.
I assume there are more than three members of The Trust here though, as I recall there being quite a few of them in attendance.
Story question - Confused - Graves is a member of the Trust? I thought he was trying to kill off the members of the Trust?
Sorry - misread your post Pax - a member of the trust is their TARGET.
PaxZRake
03/03/2011, 11:02
Story question - Confused - Graves is a member of the Trust? I thought he was trying to kill off the members of the Trust?
Sorry - misread your post Pax - a member of the trust is their TARGET.
Yea, the end goal of this story arc is the death of one of the less important members of the Trust.
Granted, I only really think Augustus and Meagan are terribly important to the story.
So Cole and Graves should be looking to lynch one of the three Trust members.
PaxZRake
03/03/2011, 11:03
Story question - Confused - Graves is a member of the Trust? I thought he was trying to kill off the members of the Trust?
Also, that's not untrue :)
Also, this post isn't terribly relevent to the current game.
Jackofhearts2005
03/03/2011, 11:06
@Pax
How far have you read?
PaxZRake
03/03/2011, 11:08
@Pax
How far have you read?
Barring any specials I've read all of it :)
I wasn't going to touch these games until I had.
Jackofhearts2005
03/03/2011, 11:24
Ah. Well then I was going to argue that Vasco is kinda important. :p
coyotejack
03/03/2011, 15:00
Well, I don't feel too bad about being late. lol I wasn't the only one.
DarqFeonix
03/03/2011, 15:07
I know that JackieO is always Graves in these games, and he's not a player...
But this is one of those arcs in which I can see that changing. :noid:
Just sayin'
coyotejack
03/03/2011, 15:08
I know that JackieO is always Graves in these games, and he's not a player...
But this is one of those arcs in which I can see that changing. :noid:
Just sayin'
Good point.
@mbauers - right now, we have NO IDEA what could make up the mafia. It could be minutemen, t could be Trust, it could be someone else (I don't know the story, relying on others). I find your statement...odd. Like you are suggesting a vote but didn't vote.
My character has NO connection to the Trust whatsoever. I am town. Therefore I have SOME idea what the town is made up of, and it doesn't appear to be the trust. My guess is that at least one of the Trust is scum. Why? Because otherwise there are 3 confirmed, bulletproof townies right off the bat in a very small game.
I don't give a crap about the trust and I don't think they're necessarily town. Hence my point.
coyotejack
03/03/2011, 16:27
My character has NO connection to the Trust whatsoever. I am town. Therefore I have SOME idea what the town is made up of, and it doesn't appear to be the trust. My guess is that at least one of the Trust is scum. Why? Because otherwise there are 3 confirmed, bulletproof townies right off the bat in a very small game.
I don't give a crap about the trust and I don't think they're necessarily town. Hence my point.
I am open to the theory that one of the Trust could possibly be scum. It would be a clever way to hide in plain sight. I will say this, I am neutral.
deadshot042
03/03/2011, 16:33
I am neutral.
I am not Daniel Peres, who I assume is the target of Cole Burns and Graves.
coyotejack
03/03/2011, 16:46
I am neutral.
I am not Daniel Peres, who I assume is the target of Cole Burns and Graves.
They took over his family, yes?
deadshot042
03/03/2011, 16:52
Yes, I'll take a piece of his pie if that is what it comes down to.
coyotejack
03/03/2011, 16:54
Yes, I'll take a piece of his pie if that is what it comes down to.
Agreed.
Wanted to make sure I had my characters straight. Been a while since I borrowed the story from a friend.
coyotejack
03/04/2011, 01:12
*hears crickets*
Figures, the day I can check regularly and it's quiet.
coyotejack
03/04/2011, 01:22
Well, I'm out for the night. Goodnight all.
Jackofhearts2005
03/04/2011, 01:42
Day closes tomorrow afternoon. Night phase will be 48 hours but given that these games have a lot of powerless roles, it shouldn't take that long.
ChiRocker
03/04/2011, 08:06
So I finished my big paper last night, which means hopefully I will able to wiki the poop out of 100 bullets today.
I've still never read the story...it's on the list!
I've still never read the story...it's on the list!
mark my words everyone. scummo. :cool:
mark my words everyone. scummo. :cool:
I haven't read the story in the past 3 games and STILL haven't been scum.
DarqFeonix
03/04/2011, 12:17
I haven't read the story in the past 3 games and STILL haven't been scum.
Say being Mafia is a 25% chance of the draw (my sheet of ~230 games played indicates 24.56% actually).
Odds are in your favor you pulled Mafia this time :noid:
Say being Mafia is a 25% chance of the draw (my sheet of ~230 games played indicates 24.56% actually).
Odds are in your favor you pulled Mafia this time :noid:
But I was a neutral BHer twice who had to kill Dbauers....
What are THOSE odds? :laugh:
DarqFeonix
03/04/2011, 13:08
What are THOSE odds? :laugh:
Better than the odds of you opening Disney in the next week :noid: ;)
Better than the odds of you opening Disney in the next week :noid: ;)
Sadly true....
Work is a nightmare. All I do when i get home at 9 pm is sit on the couch and try to catch up on the TV.
Last night I fell asleep on the couch.
DarqFeonix
03/04/2011, 13:10
Work is a nightmare.
I call shenanigans! It's not like PP has had to deal with anything big lately...
Current Events Suck Irony, FTW!
I call shenanigans! It's not like PP has had to deal with anything big lately...
Current Events Suck Irony, FTW!
It's been all puppies, rainbows, and cotton candy for us!
deadshot042
03/04/2011, 14:01
Say being Mafia is a 25% chance of the draw (my sheet of ~230 games played indicates 24.56% actually).
Odds are in your favor you pulled Mafia this time :noid:
Previous results don't affect current ones. Just because you flip a coin ten times and it comes up heads every time does not mean it should come up tails the next time.
DarqFeonix
03/04/2011, 14:19
Hey, who has the Math degree here!
Hey, who has the Math degree here!
After this, I am assuming you do....:)
ChiRocker
03/04/2011, 14:30
Hey, who has the Math degree here!
Does Economics and Finance count?
Jackofhearts2005
03/04/2011, 14:50
Does Economics and Finance count?
Seems to be good enough for some jobs that would be better focused towards a math degree. :cheeky:
Others...not so much. :(
malakim2099
03/04/2011, 16:35
Does Economics and Finance count?
Only if you stay out of politics. :cheeky:
ChiRocker
03/04/2011, 16:47
Only if you stay out of politics. :cheeky:
What about staying out of religion?
deadshot042
03/04/2011, 16:49
Does Economics and Finance count?
I'm working on the Econ half.
Jackofhearts2005
03/04/2011, 18:22
Day One
El Paso, Texas.
A lazy red head and a fake doctor sat at the bar, drinking and bsing.
“So, you got no idea what you’re in for tonight.”
“Nope.”
“Nother dumb con maybe? I swear, Dan, you’ll find yourself knee deep in #### one of these times, y’know?”
“Psaa…No I won’t. Sides, Hopper can take care a business.”
“Hopper? He can’t take a #### without usin a map.”
“Hey say what you will but the little guy’s got a black belt.”
“Yeah? Big ####in deal.”
“I seen him once take out four guys twice his size. Put em all in the hospital, he did. So if he’s got my back, I ain’t worried.”
It was at that moment that Hooper came flying through the door. (http://hcrealms.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=216&pictureid=14866)
But when Hooper had to be taken to the hospital on a stretcher, “Doctor” Dan found himself quite worried. They were supposed to meet Emilo about that job. If Hooper wasn’t going to be able to make the meeting, he’d have to find somebody else and Doctor Dan only knew one guy smart enough to pull this off but still stupid enough to go along with it.
Day One ends with no lynch. Night one begins now.
Jackofhearts2005
03/06/2011, 17:43
Night One
El Paso, Texas
“Hey Wylie!” Doctor Dan called to his friend. “I need a favor.”
“Sorry, Dan. Fresh out.”
“I’m serious. Nothing big.”
“If you’re serious, it can’t be small. Whad’ya need?”
The two went outside. “Y’know that out of town guy I was talkin about. Well he’s here so it’s time to do business. And the thing is, he won’t do business with anyone but” the two of them approached a young Mexican man with a chain around his neck. “Hopper, this is Emilio. Finally, you gentlemen meet face to face.”
“Pleasure, homes.”
“Yeah…” Wylie shook the kid’s hand.
“Here’s the thing. It’s off for tonight.”
“That’s a shame…”
“But tomorrow, we on for sure. You set?”
“What do we need?”
“####in driver’s license is all you need. Yo Hopper, you didn’t tell this boy whas goin down?”
“Smart thing to do was to keep this idiot in the dark. Tell im where we’re pickin up what we gotta drive.”
“Jaurez.”
“Mexico?” Dan asked.
“No. Vermont.”
“Ha. Well I’ll see you fellas later. Don’t drink too much tonight, huh? That’d be a bad idea.”
“Well the night’s ripe with those…”
_______________________________________________
Atlantic City, New Jersey
Hank found himself at the hospital, filling out aid forms.
“I filled out the same ones last time and the time before that.”
“I’m sorry but it’s necessary each time you apply for public aid.”
“We get rejected.”
“Well, that’s not entirely true but there’s only so much they’ll cover in cases like this.”
“Is it gonna be enough?”
“The procedures PA won’t approve are very expensive. Without insurance? Look, finish filling out the forms. Maybe we’ll get a sympathetic case worker. In the meantime? I’ll make sure she’s comfortable.”
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(click here) (http://hcrealms.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=216&pictureid=14876)
“I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t lookin forward to it. The ####in Trust. They asked for this by markin the minutemen for death.”
“Hmm. I’d say they asked for this when they ordered us to do the job. As for the minutemen, they asked to be marked for death when I said no. Got a problem with that?”
“You’re the boss.”
“An you’re the man.”
“So what about Mr. Shepherd? How does he fit into what you’ve got planned?”
“He doesn’t. This is strictly our play here, Cole. For now, it’s best we leave Shepherd up on his tight rope.”
“And if he falls?”
“He’s got a net.”
“Some net. Not that he’ll need it, with one end of that rope tied around his neck.”
“Cole, Shepherd could always take care of himself and I’d say the same holds true for his net.”
_____________________________________________________________
El Paso, Texas
Wiley returned to his motel to find the girl with the teardrop tattoo waiting on the balcony above.
“Hey. Wanna beer?”
“No thanks. I’m drinking champagne.”
“What’s your name?”
“Dizzy. Who are you?”
“That’s a good question. Say, just for future reference, what did that guy whose ### you kicked say to you?”
“Something I didn’t want to hear.”
“Goodnight.”
Wiley walked inside and Dizzy turned to her friend in the doorway.
“So he’s our man?”
“You heard what he said.”
Silver Lantern is out of the game. He was Wiley Times (Alignment: Town), sleepwalker. But for the purposes of the story, we’ll let Wiley stick around.
Day 2 begins now. With 12 players remaining, 7 votes is majority. Day ends on Tuesday, around ten pm, central.
Jackofhearts2005
03/06/2011, 17:45
Oh and Get1 replaces DocDoom187
ChiRocker
03/06/2011, 20:09
Lynch get_1
I have nothin'.
malakim2099
03/06/2011, 20:27
I'll wait and see if someone comes up to bat with something.
I'll wait and see if someone comes up to bat with something.
Before voting for me?
Huh.
*noted*
ChiRocker
03/06/2011, 20:51
remove vote. Just wanted to give you a proper welcome =]
Mr Stranger
03/06/2011, 20:56
remove vote. Just wanted to give you a proper welcome =]
Does anyone else find this really suspicious or is it just me?
malakim2099
03/06/2011, 20:58
Does anyone else find this really suspicious or is it just me?
A bit suspicious, yes.
*makes a note about get_1's note*
DarqFeonix
03/06/2011, 23:00
Lynch: Stranger
/obvious
Trust the Trust?
DarqFeonix says "Trust me."
...that's all I got for now. Need more creativity.
Vote: Mr Stranger
Mr Stranger
03/07/2011, 00:30
Lynch: Stranger
/obvious
Thanks, but I'm not stupid enough to do that twice lol.
A vendetta is one thing, a serial stalker is another.
coyotejack
03/07/2011, 01:46
Vote Lynch Mr. Stranger
I'm willing to help pressure.
malakim2099
03/07/2011, 09:42
Alright, this will put it halfway then.
Well, more or less. Vote: Mr Stranger
i dont necessarily have a problem throwing pressure on stranger. but i do have a problem being the 5th vote out of 7 this early in the day, when 2 of the current 4 votes are members of the trust. based on my role, i seriously have no idea who the town or mafia would be in this game, and i have read all but i think the last book.
at any rate, it should be obvious that i am neither vig nor bounty hunter nor scummo, because MSU is still alive. :angry:
i will also once again reiterate that i think msu is scum. if he wasnt, he would have been a prime nk target last night, to frame me as scum. :cool:
malakim2099
03/07/2011, 09:49
i dont necessarily have a problem throwing pressure on stranger. but i do have a problem being the 5th vote out of 7 this early in the day, when 2 of the current 4 votes are members of the trust. based on my role, i seriously have no idea who the town or mafia would be in this game, and i have read all but i think the last book.
at any rate, it should be obvious that i am neither vig nor bounty hunter nor scummo, because MSU is still alive. :angry:
Or was he doctored? :cheeky:
And hey, at least you read the books, I haven't even done that much. Just kind of flying blind here.
i will also once again reiterate that i think msu is scum. if he wasnt, he would have been a prime nk target last night, to frame me as scum. :cool:
Same logic....I think dbauers is scum, otherwise the mafia would have killed him to frame me (since it would be the 3rd out of 4 games that I was responsible for a dbauers death).
Since he is scum, he COULDN'T kill me last night because it would have been too obvious that he was responsible for my death. My survival proves dbauers scummyness. Scum.
I have to ask - is this a real vote or vendetta vote? The "joke votes" are blurring with the real votes lately....
Or was he doctored? :cheeky:
You sir, are a prince among princes....
malakim2099
03/07/2011, 10:48
You sir, are a prince among princes....
Oh, like I'd admit it if I were. :cheeky:
Work, etc. Will check in when I can.
DarqFeonix
03/07/2011, 10:51
I have to ask - is this a real vote or vendetta vote? The "joke votes" are blurring with the real votes lately....
I wouldn't call it a joke vote, but I don't have info or anything either. I wanted to see how Stranger would react to a vote, seeing as Silver was killed.
His reaction didn't convince me to remove. But that's me.
Same logic....I think dbauers is scum, otherwise the mafia would have killed him to frame me (since it would be the 3rd out of 4 games that I was responsible for a dbauers death).
Since he is scum, he COULDN'T kill me last night because it would have been too obvious that he was responsible for my death. My survival proves dbauers scummyness. Scum.
I have to ask - is this a real vote or vendetta vote? The "joke votes" are blurring with the real votes lately....
naw, if i was scum i would have put the hit on you and made the defense of "clearly im not scum because killing msu would just be too obvious" :p
Mr Stranger
03/07/2011, 11:20
I'm Angelina, Town, vanilla.
I'm interested in screwing Wylie and traveled with him across the border.
There Darq, happy? Is that how people should normally react to your one vote pressure, since my first response apparently wasn't good enough for you?
Now if we can actually accomplish something:
Vote: ChiRocker
I mentioned earlier that I thought his posts sounded strange, and so he is my best target to pressure at this point.
naw, if i was scum i would have put the hit on you and made the defense of "clearly im not scum because killing msu would just be too obvious" :p
AHA! Look at the carefully hidden clues I am bolding for everyone...
clearly dbauers is scum and should be lynched.
Cause honestly, I am not seeing what you all are seeing in Stranger.
Something isn't sitting right with me right now....
Un-nightkillable townies.
It's a broken mechanic (as a mod I have had them) that basically give them a roleclaim AND the ability not to die at night, which is the way the mafia gets rid of people.
It's an automatic win for them.
Now, if the mafia has an alt win condition that doesn't have to do with achieving majority, then I can see how it can balance out (like lasting until a certain day or something like we have seen previously) but what I am curious about is what mbauers said (to some degree, this is just me writing out loud) about ONE of the unnightkillable members of the game HAS to be bad....
Right?
Again, thinking out loud....in case dbauers decides to kill me tonight.
Let's lynch one of them to see if they're actually members of The Trust.
Something isn't sitting right with me right now....
Un-nightkillable townies.
It's a broken mechanic (as a mod I have had them) that basically give them a roleclaim AND the ability not to die at night, which is the way the mafia gets rid of people.
It's an automatic win for them.
Now, if the mafia has an alt win condition that doesn't have to do with achieving majority, then I can see how it can balance out (like lasting until a certain day or something like we have seen previously) but what I am curious about is what mbauers said (to some degree, this is just me writing out loud) about ONE of the unnightkillable members of the game HAS to be bad....
Right?
Again, thinking out loud....in case dbauers decides to kill me tonight.
didnt the trust members all claim as neutral?
didnt the trust members all claim as neutral?
If they did I missed it...I thought one of them did not all of them.
I don't think it would be THAT blatant that Trust = Mafia but what is their win condition and does it impede our win condition?
We have pro-town neutrals but we also have anti-town neutrals?
What if one of them is mafia and two of them are not?
Can they talk outside the game? do they have night actions? Can they discuss their win condition? Cause since they can't be night killed, they have to worry about us - the Town. So since they can't be night killed, they shouldn't be worried about coming clean with us...right? Unless we have a bounty hunter who is looking for one of them - so maybe they don't name claim right now?
We don't know which side they are on right now....
Still just thinking out loud...
Neutrals.
I just re-read my role again and I'm a neutral that wins with the Trust. It doesn't say anything about a town or mafia...just the Trust.
DarqFeonix
03/07/2011, 12:19
I'm guessing there is a Bounty Hunter out there looking for one of us. Likely a one-shot, 'cause I can't imagine a BH having three nights to pick the right one.
We may or may not all be Neutral. We may or may not all be vanilla.
I can say definitively we are not in contact, and I, personally, do not have a killing power.
I'm guessing there is a Bounty Hunter out there looking for one of us. Likely a one-shot, 'cause I can't imagine a BH having three nights to pick the right one.
We may or may not all be Neutral. We may or may not all be vanilla.
I can say definitively we are not in contact, and I, personally, do not have a killing power.
So here's the million dollar question - without saying your name (in case there is a BHer), do you have power that you can use at night?
ChiRocker
03/07/2011, 12:46
I'm Angelina, Town, vanilla.
I'm interested in screwing Wylie and traveled with him across the border.
There Darq, happy? Is that how people should normally react to your one vote pressure, since my first response apparently wasn't good enough for you?
Now if we can actually accomplish something:
Vote: ChiRocker
I mentioned earlier that I thought his posts sounded strange, and so he is my best target to pressure at this point.
Would my post have sounded strange if it had been posted on Day 1? I was just extending the "courtesy" to the new comer...
DarqFeonix
03/07/2011, 12:48
So here's the million dollar question - without saying your name (in case there is a BHer), do you have power that you can use at night?
Why would I answer that at the moment? I may or may not.
Mr Stranger
03/07/2011, 12:55
Would my post have sounded strange if it had been posted on Day 1? I was just extending the "courtesy" to the new comer...
To be quite honest, posts like that always sound strange no matter if it's day one or not.
To me, they sound like people trying to pry information while under the guise of a "joke".
Why would I answer that at the moment? I may or may not.
Because you have nothing to fear at night if you are pro-town. You can't be nightkilled and if you have an UBERpower that the mafia would want to messwith, then you are such a broken role and we can RT you to make sure that no one messes with you.
The only thing you have to fear is us - the voting public.
But if you pro town then why would you fear us?
DarqFeonix
03/07/2011, 13:00
Hmph. Good point. I'll say I do not have an uber-power. I'm not worthy of being messed with at all.
Hmph. Good point. I'll say I do not have an uber-power. I'm not worthy of being messed with at all.
Why are you being coy?
The more coy you are, the more I think you are scrambling for something....
You cannot die at night. There MIGHT be a BHer out there so I am not asking for your name - if you have a power that is helpful to the town and if you are pro-town, then why not just get it over with now instead of stringing us along? We move on from "should we lynch the Trust?" and focus on what may be a more serious threat.
The more coy and gunshy the three of you are, the more likely I am willing to go with get_1's idea and lynch one of you and see what happens with the vote (and also, see where everyone's loyalties lie).
PaxZRake
03/07/2011, 13:47
I forget the name of the guy that travelled to Mexico with Wylie, anyone remember?
coyotejack
03/07/2011, 13:50
Why are you being coy?
The more coy you are, the more I think you are scrambling for something....
You cannot die at night. There MIGHT be a BHer out there so I am not asking for your name - if you have a power that is helpful to the town and if you are pro-town, then why not just get it over with now instead of stringing us along? We move on from "should we lynch the Trust?" and focus on what may be a more serious threat.
The more coy and gunshy the three of you are, the more likely I am willing to go with get_1's idea and lynch one of you and see what happens with the vote (and also, see where everyone's loyalties lie).
Well, I know you asked Darq but I'll give you an answer on my behalf: I have no night power. I figured being unkillable was enough.
coyotejack
03/07/2011, 13:50
Ack! And I forgot, thanks for the info Mr. Stranger.
Remove Vote
DarqFeonix
03/07/2011, 13:53
Why are you being coy?
The more coy you are, the more I think you are scrambling for something....
Scrambling? I'm in a game where the mod starts us off with huge targets on our back. Historically, these games have been decided in Day Phases, not the night phases, so really, being "NK immune" doesn't mean much.
If I say I'm completely vanilla, it gives other players an excuse to ignore my votes in the future. I'd hate to do that.
Suffice to say, I do not have a kill power. I also took no action last night.
malakim2099
03/07/2011, 13:53
Remove vote
Just peeking in quick.
PaxZRake
03/07/2011, 13:54
I forget the name of the guy that travelled to Mexico with Wylie, anyone remember?
The reason I ask is because Angelina travelled to the US with Wylie, yes, but it wasn't until the end of the story arc. I would think characters start at the begining of the story.
DarqFeonix
03/07/2011, 13:55
Oh, also, another bit of information: my win condition is not dependent on a timeline.
Just putting that out there.
coyotejack
03/07/2011, 13:57
Scrambling? I'm in a game where the mod starts us off with huge targets on our back. Historically, these games have been decided in Day Phases, not the night phases, so really, being "NK immune" doesn't mean much.
If I say I'm completely vanilla, it gives other players an excuse to ignore my votes in the future. I'd hate to do that.
Suffice to say, I do not have a kill power. I also took no action last night.
See, I look at it differently. I'm perfectly fine letting everyone know I don't have another power. Lets the town use their resources elsewhere.
DarqFeonix
03/07/2011, 13:59
See, I look at it differently. I'm perfectly fine letting everyone know I don't have another power. Lets the town use their resources elsewhere.
*shrug*
Different strokes.
coyotejack
03/07/2011, 14:02
Oh, also, another bit of information: my win condition is not dependent on a timeline.
Just putting that out there.
For once mine isn't either. lol
DF - nothing? Nothing at all?
vote:DF
if you are pro-town you should have nothing to hide.
Jackofhearts2005
03/07/2011, 17:36
Stranger (2): Darq, Get
Chi (1): Stranger
Darq (1): MSU
7 is majority. About 32 hours left.
This is not an outright lynch, btw folks - I want DF to talk. He has been on in other games, I don't like the stalling tactic he is giving, and one member of the Trust has been completely forward.
If they can't be killed at night, and I am not asking for their name (in case of a BHer), then I am not sure what they would be hiding if they were not pro-town.
DarqFeonix
03/07/2011, 17:50
Dude, I've given you so much already. I said I don't kill. I said The Trust isn't in contact. I said I didn't take an action last night. All I did that you find suspicious is leave open the possibility that I may have a power in the future. Why is that suspicious?
Dude, I've given you so much already. I said I don't kill. I said The Trust isn't in contact. I said I didn't take an action last night. All I did that you find suspicious is leave open the possibility that I may have a power in the future. Why is that suspicious?
Because you are being vague. If you are pro-town and with us, then you have nothing to hide.
No one can kill you at night - and if there is a daykilling BHer (which I am assuming there is), then don't say your name.
And I am also looking at the other member of your triumvirate.
Silver Lantern is out of the game. He was Wiley Times (Alignment: Town), sleepwalker. But for the purposes of the story, we’ll let Wiley stick around.
One other thing...get_1 says he wins witht the Trust, not the Town, the Trust.
Silver Lantern was Town.
Hence, we have another alignment out there...Trust.
This is a JoH game....expect anything when it comes to how the game is put together.
What if we have Town, Trust, and Mafia (assuming about mafia, will be better when we get a body to confirm)? I win with the Town (not the Trust specifically) so I am trying to figure out if I can even with you.
So again, if you are pro-town you have nothing to hide.
Well, again, I'm neutral. And it says I win with the Trust.
I'm assuming the neutrals are synonymous with the Trust in this game. And it seems like the Trust needs to do something else to satisfy their win other than just survive.
pbdeberry
03/07/2011, 18:18
Sooo... sorry for not being around. That will change today.
Well, again, I'm neutral. And it says I win with the Trust.
I'm assuming the neutrals are synonymous with the Trust in this game. And it seems like the Trust needs to do something else to satisfy their win other than just survive.
So....for instance, can I win with you get? Can I win with DF?
4 members of the trust are known - how many are there total?
These are just honest discussion questions....cause let's be honest, if I can't win with the Trust, then technically Trust = enemy. DF being as forthcoming as he has been isn't giving me a lot of trust for the Trust.
I ain't a member of the Trust. I'm just a neutral who win with them.
(I think? According to my character PM writeup)
I ain't a member of the Trust. I'm just a neutral who win with them.
(I think? According to my character PM writeup)
My bad...so you can win with the trust...can you win with the town? Or just the Trust?
The amount of posting going on in this thread is astounding...
in all honesty, either DF needs to answer or there needs to be votes.
Mr Stranger
03/07/2011, 23:49
For me personally, I don't know what's going on in this game.
My role PM says I win with the Town, not the Trust.
Which to me means that neutrals win with the Trust and townies win with the Town, creating two towns almost.
PaxZRake
03/08/2011, 08:08
MSU, are you Cole?
MSU, are you Cole?
No....why?
PaxZRake
03/08/2011, 08:19
No....why?
Just trying to figure you out.
Just trying to figure you out.
You mean why I don't trust the Trust who may or may not have alternate win conditions to the Town but if they would come clean to us I would have trust since they don't need to worry about NKs at all?
Or how DF has selectively answered any of my questions?
Or how the entire game is silent except for maybe 5 active posters?
PaxZRake
03/08/2011, 09:10
Mostly yes to all of those.
I don't see any real reason to go after the Trust, so I'm curious as to why you do.
Cole's win condition should be something along the lines of "kill the fat guy from the Trust", his win condition being made much more difficult by the Trust's immunity to death.
Mostly yes to all of those.
I don't see any real reason to go after the Trust, so I'm curious as to why you do.
Cole's win condition should be something along the lines of "kill the fat guy from the Trust", his win condition being made much more difficult by the Trust's immunity to death.
Mainly, it came from a game mechanic.
If they have nothing to fear at night, then they should fear a BHer or a vote.
The BHer I can understand if its a day kill BHer (which I was in the last game with the Jester) hence, I don't need their names.
But get_1 said and I am not sure if he meant to or not, he wins with the Trust and is neutral. Why would anyone win with the Trust and not the Town? Hence, my brain started going down the path of....does the Trust have an alt win condition and does it coincide with the Town?
We haven't had anything else to discuss and no one wants to add anything else....
And I get frustrated when I am the only one playing a game vocally because it means I am gonna die tonight....either the Vig will get sloppy, the Mafia will decide that I was getting too close or I was so far off that my death will be used to pressure someone.
*Sigh*
Can I at least kill Dbauers before I die? :laugh: I can't lose the streak!!
PaxZRake
03/08/2011, 09:41
And we also know that The Trust is likely a Neutral party.
It just doesn't seem threatening to me, especially considering the story.
That you're going after them suggests to me that you're from that half of the story, which rules out Dizzy, Shepard, Wylie, etc. and really limits your potential character claims.
And we also know that The Trust is likely a Neutral party.
It just doesn't seem threatening to me, especially considering the story.
That you're going after them suggests to me that you're from that half of the story, which rules out Dizzy, Shepard, Wylie, etc. and really limits your potential character claims.
From a game mechanic wise, if you are Town and cannot win with the Trust, why do you think they can win with you? Hence, to win the game, how are you going to win when they can't be NKed?
Am I not explaining myself correctly?
How can I, as town, trust the Trust when right now, it seems, that I cannot win the game with them? Or that they won't answer any questions on whether or not the town can win the game with them?
Are you neutral Pax and can win with the Trust?
You should focus on the scum and let the neutrals over there with their alternate win condition do their own thing.
PaxZRake
03/08/2011, 10:59
From a game mechanic wise, if you are Town and cannot win with the Trust, why do you think they can win with you? Hence, to win the game, how are you going to win when they can't be NKed?
Am I not explaining myself correctly?
How can I, as town, trust the Trust when right now, it seems, that I cannot win the game with them? Or that they won't answer any questions on whether or not the town can win the game with them?
Are you neutral Pax and can win with the Trust?
I don't see why I wouldn't be able to win with The Trust.
I understand what you're getting at. I think the difference in our POV stems from where we're approaching things, you from a game mechanic perspective and me from a storyline perspective.
However, The Trust, if they are any threat at all, should only be a threat to one person in the game, Cole. Being that I'm not Cole, I'm not terribly concerned.
The people doing the killing should be the drug runners from the other, non-Trust, side of the story.
All of this leads me to believe that you are from the Trust half of the story, and likely Cole.
I don't see why I wouldn't be able to win with The Trust.
I understand what you're getting at. I think the difference in our POV stems from where we're approaching things, you from a game mechanic perspective and me from a storyline perspective.
However, The Trust, if they are any threat at all, should only be a threat to one person in the game, Cole. Being that I'm not Cole, I'm not terribly concerned.
The people doing the killing should be the drug runners from the other, non-Trust, side of the story.
All of this leads me to believe that you are from the Trust half of the story, and likely Cole.
Two different POVs....
So let's combine and see where we can work?
You should focus on the scum and let the neutrals over there with their alternate win condition do their own thing.
What if the neutrals interfere with my winning of the game?
Since neither you or DF will answer that, right now I consider you a threat.
I don't see why I wouldn't be able to win with The Trust.
.
I didn't think that either until get_1 said that he wins with the Trust and not the Town....
That is where I started getting paranoid. I think get_1 messed up by stating it....
What if the neutrals interfere with my winning of the game?
Since neither you or DF will answer that, right now I consider you a threat.
I don't know how the Trust wins.
Basically all I do is sit here looking pretty for a while. I'm as in the dark as you are.
I don't know how the Trust wins.
Basically all I do is sit here looking pretty for a while. I'm as in the dark as you are.
Here is where I am getting really confused....and frustrated since no one wants to talk and no talking makes me think that they have something to hide.
You win with the Trust...fine.
How does the Trust win? And do they win with the Town?
That is all I am asking for clarification on from the Trust...they could even lie and say "yeah, we win with the town" but they aren't...so what's the deal?
(@ Pax - I don't know the story, so I am only going on game mechanic wise)
DarqFeonix
03/08/2011, 11:48
Meta-wise, if I was the mod, I would run this game similar to Ninja in the Hospital, with Cole having a single Day Kill one shot.
In that view, I would think that's Cole's side of the game, and Trust players win or lose depending on it.
Jackofhearts2005
03/08/2011, 11:49
Stranger (2): Darq, Get
Chi (1): Stranger
Darq (1): MSU
7 is majority. About 13 hours left.
I don't know the story, but perhaps there's a good reason why they're not talking about their win condition.
Maybe they're not allowed to.
Maybe if they do reveal it, it becomes exponentially harder to achieve. etc. etc.
You're thinking about this the completely wrong way. At this point, I think you should focus more on the remaining non-Trust players. Knowing that the Trust is neutral and don't really target at night automatically knocks down 4 people (3 Trust, and 1 me) from your list of potential scum. So you've only got 8 people to go through.
You fixating on the Trust when you could instead look at the remaining 8 convinces me you're deflecting onto the elephant in the room.
Vote: MSU
PaxZRake
03/08/2011, 11:52
Meta-wise, if I was the mod, I would run this game similar to Ninja in the Hospital, with Cole having a single Day Kill one shot.
In that view, I would think that's Cole's side of the game, and Trust players win or lose depending on it.
Yup, my thoughts exactly.
It basically gives Cole a 33% chance to win on D1, assuming that the only Trust Members are those outlined in the first post, but it feels about right.
It's also why I think MSU is Cole, since he's only going after the Trust right now, and ignoring what should be the actual threat to his Night game.
DarqFeonix
03/08/2011, 12:02
Yup, my thoughts exactly.
Not a surprise, I admit your posts today helped galvanize my thought process. :)
PaxZRake
03/08/2011, 12:03
I'm useful!
DarqFeonix
03/08/2011, 12:03
I'm useful!
/scumtell :p
and ignoring what should be the actual threat to his Night game.
Give me another target then....who do you think is scum?
PaxZRake
03/08/2011, 12:17
Give me another target then....who do you think is scum?
I dunno, not enough chatter.
Not The Trust, prob not you.
I dunno, not enough chatter.
Not The Trust, prob not you.
There are 4 people playing this game right now....
You
Me
Get_1
DF (and that's barely)
nothing from the bauers at all....
Nothing from berry
Stranger defended himself
The other two Trust members have been quiet.
I stand corrected - DF is talking, he's just talking to me.
MSU 38
DarqFeonix 22
coyotejack 15
malakim2099 15
Jackofhearts2005 14
PaxZRake 14
get_1 10
Silver Lantern 7
ChiRocker 7
Mr Stranger 6
dbauers 6
deadshot042 5
mbauers 2
pbdeberry 1
DarqFeonix
03/08/2011, 12:32
DF (and that's barely)
Hey, I have been asleep while you guys have been going back and forth today. I'm right below you in post count... and I'm the only one who seems to want to lynch someone.
Change Vote: mbauers
If MSU isn't Cole, M's posts on Day 1 indicated he may be.
PaxZRake
03/08/2011, 12:34
Vote: Lynch ChiRocker
He's talking, he's not Trust, and I don't know when Mal gets out of work.
PaxZRake
03/08/2011, 12:36
Though, thinking about it, I'm not sure who a Neutral that wins with The Trust would be.
Shepard?
Hey, I have been asleep while you guys have been going back and forth today. I'm right below you in post count... and I'm the only one who seems to want to lynch someone.
Change Vote: mbauers
If MSU isn't Cole, M's posts on Day 1 indicated he may be.
DF - all I need from you is whether or not you can win with the Town.
That's it.
That's all.
Vote: Lynch ChiRocker
He's talking, he's not Trust, and I don't know when Mal gets out of work.
Which means we should lynch Malakim....right?
PaxZRake
03/08/2011, 12:39
Which means we should lynch Malakim....right?
I'll go after Mal when he gets out of work, but yea. I like to know more about the high posters before I know about the low posters. Sphere of influence thing.
DarqFeonix
03/08/2011, 12:39
DF - all I need from you is whether or not you can win with the Town.
That's it.
That's all.
*shrug* I don't know what happens after Cole shoots his load.
*shrug* I don't know what happens after Cole shoots his load.
A cigarette?
*shrug* I don't know what happens after Cole shoots his load.
A cigarette and then a baby?
Aren't you expecting? Shouldn't you know these things already?
DarqFeonix
03/08/2011, 12:43
You gay men... Everything has to be sexualized with you :)
You gay men... Everything has to be sexualized with you :)
Pshaw...like it ain't with you straight men. It's one of the common connectors between the gay boys and the straight ones.
Boobies? filler
The defense rests, your honor.
*shrug* I don't know what happens after Cole shoots his load.
What happens BEFORE Cole shoots his load?
ChiRocker
03/08/2011, 13:21
Just letting everyone know, my attendance will be patchy the next few days. My grandfather just died, so I will be going home for the funeral. I will actually probably have more free time the next few days than normal, but family will obviously come first. Just thought I would say this now to note why my behavior will be changing most likely.
This news is not bind blowing, since he has been sick for a while, but it is shocking because he was doing so much better and we thought he was out of the danger zone, and then he just plummeted this morning. His departure is bittersweet because, although this is sad news, we know he is with the Lord.
Now, carry on.
Vote: ChiRocker
To get some info quick while he's still here.
Jackofhearts2005
03/08/2011, 13:23
No room for sympathy in the world of 100 bullets, I see.
Our prayers are with you, Chi.
ChiRocker
03/08/2011, 13:30
Vote: ChiRocker
To get some info quick while he's still here.
I will say this. I am town, I am vanilla, I have no idea who my character is in the scheme of storyline. I know you are kidding, but I will leave you with this anyway.
:( thoughts are with ya Chi....
Jackofhearts2005
03/08/2011, 14:42
Chi (3): Stranger, Pax, Get
Darq (1): MSU
Mbauers (1): Darq
7 is majority. About 10 hours left.
PaxZRake
03/08/2011, 15:03
Well, if Chi isn't going to be around and won't offer up anything I'll have to wait for Mal, or one of the silent kids to hop on.
Vote: Lynch Mal
vote: msu
cause i still think hes scummy.
im a vanilla townie, btw.
malakim2099
03/08/2011, 15:27
Well, if Chi isn't going to be around and won't offer up anything I'll have to wait for Mal, or one of the silent kids to hop on.
Vote: Lynch Mal
I've not said much because:
I'm a vanilla townfolk.
I've been playing Dragon Age 2
I don't know much about 100 Bullets. Quid pro quo.
So there you have it.
I've not said much because:
I'm a vanilla townfolk.
I've been playing Dragon Age 2
I don't know much about 100 Bullets. Quid pro quo.
So there you have it.
1) I've been playing Wow
2) I have never read the comic
3) you can still comment on the mechanics of a game....
vote: msu
cause i still think hes scummy.
im a vanilla townie, btw.
my vote is staying on DF until i get an answer from him...but in my heart, I want to lynch you. :p
PaxZRake
03/08/2011, 15:42
vote: msu
cause i still think hes scummy.
im a vanilla townie, btw.
Care to give a name? Vanilla Townie doesn't give much in the way of info.
I've not said much because:
I'm a vanilla townfolk.
I've been playing Dragon Age 2
I don't know much about 100 Bullets. Quid pro quo.
So there you have it.
I'm actually voting for you because you've said more than most :)
Name?
Something to go on would be awesome.
malakim2099
03/08/2011, 15:44
1) I've been playing Wow
2) I have never read the comic
3) you can still comment on the mechanics of a game....
Well, I admit I'm curious as to why the Trust would be trustworthy. Especially since you pointed out, I believe, that un-NKable townies are a little... weird. To put it mildly.
But then, with this much vanilla, I'm thinking approaching this like a conventional mafia game is a mistake. And MSU, you might not have read the comic, but you also played in the previous games. Much to dbauer's chagrin. :cheeky:
malakim2099
03/08/2011, 15:46
Care to give a name? Vanilla Townie doesn't give much in the way of info.
Sure, you can call me Joe. :)
I dislike these claims of "Vanilla Townie" without names.
DarqFeonix
03/08/2011, 15:52
Well, I admit I'm curious as to why the Trust would be trustworthy. Especially since you pointed out, I believe, that un-NKable townies are a little... weird. To put it mildly.
I think you just have to look at it as two separate games going on. While I'm not saying this is the layout, it's a plausible plan:
13 Players to Start. 3 Trust members, and a Bounty Hunter looking for one of them. That takes us to 9. Of that 9, think maybe 2 or 3 bad guys form Wiley's story, with 5 or 6 Townies.
Ad in 1 or two more neutrals... there's two, maybe three games going on. Trust vs Cole. Wiley's Town vs Wiley's Mafia. Random Neutral(s).
coyotejack
03/08/2011, 16:13
I stand corrected - DF is talking, he's just talking to me.
MSU 38
DarqFeonix 22
coyotejack 15
malakim2099 15
Jackofhearts2005 14
PaxZRake 14
get_1 10
Silver Lantern 7
ChiRocker 7
Mr Stranger 6
dbauers 6
deadshot042 5
mbauers 2
pbdeberry 1
I look pretty active to me! :grin:
coyotejack
03/08/2011, 16:19
I can't speak for DF, obviously. But I can tell you this (no restriction on me saying this) about me. I also win with the Trust. However, this is neither impeded by nor impedes the Town's win condition from what I can see.
And thoughts and prayers are with you, Chi.
DarqFeonix
03/08/2011, 16:21
I can't speak for DF, obviously. But I can tell you this (no restriction on me saying this) about me. I also win with the Trust. However, this is neither impeded by nor impedes the Town's win condition from what I can see.
Wow dude, you just love to paint a target on us, don'cha? :tired:
I can't speak for DF, obviously. But I can tell you this (no restriction on me saying this) about me. I also win with the Trust. However, this is neither impeded by nor impedes the Town's win condition from what I can see.
And thoughts and prayers are with you, Chi.
But you have restrictions you can't share with us?
See DF..that is all I needed to know.
Thank you CJ...for being at least more helpful than DF was.
But you have restrictions you can't share with us?
See DF..that is all I needed to know.
Thank you CJ...for being at least more helpful than DF was.
Use your daykill on DF. That'll learn him.
DarqFeonix
03/08/2011, 16:26
See DF..that is all I needed to know.
Wow, all you needed to know was that The Trust's win condition was that we won together.
Shocking.
I wonder, wonder, wonder where the conversation will go to now. :tired:
Thanks a lot, Jack.
Wow dude, you just love to paint a target on us, don'cha? :tired:
See, this is why I don't trust you at all DF....you are trying to hide the fact that you win with the Trust and that is a different win condition from the Town.
And this right now makes me think that maybe we should be voting some of you out.
Dammit man, you try too hard for someone who's still a big ol' question mark.
Change Vote: MSU. Again.
DarqFeonix
03/08/2011, 16:28
See, this is why I don't trust you at all DF....you are trying to hide the fact that you win with the Trust and that is a different win condition from the Town.
And this right now makes me think that maybe we should be voting some of you out.
Well.
Yeah.
I can't imagine why I didn't want to out that.
DarqFeonix
03/08/2011, 16:28
Change Vote: MSU
PaxZRake
03/08/2011, 16:30
I'll vote for MSU if the Trust offers me some lynch protection.
I don't overly care for Cole, as I assume he'll be out of the game when/if he wins. I also assume the Trust will stay, so, guys?
DarqFeonix
03/08/2011, 16:31
So don't lynch you? Yeah, I don't see that ever happening unless there's info you're Cole, and that's doubtful.
Dammit man, you try too hard for someone who's still a big ol' question mark.
Change Vote: MSU. Again.
You all said it yourself.
3 members of the Trust who can't be NKed
1 person who wins with the trust
2-3 members of a mafia
1 person who Pax and others says is Cole and is a BHer who is looking for the Trust
4-5 members of the town left
You targeting me because you think I am mafia or that you think I am Cole?
Cause if I am mafia, then it doesn't matter if I live or die because we assume since Trust members cannot die at night, that they don't have anything to do with the mafia win condition and why would the mafia even both with you or the Trust.
If it is because I am Cole, why would the Town waste a day trying to go after me since Cole is out to get the trust, NOT the Town?
BTW, I am not either...I am Town trying to figure out if I need to treat the Trust as an outed Cult or not. Cauze the Trust needs the Town to vote out the BHer (assuming the mafia can't kill him...would be too easy for the Trust to have a NK immunity and the BHer not to have that) and the mafia needs the Trust to help them vote out Townies.
So again, the Trust shouldn't be voting for anyone unless they think it is Cole, and even then, the Trust should be trying to convince the Town on why voting out a non-scum member is a good thing for the Town.
So Pax, you will vote out a Town member (cause I am not Cole....) and side with the Trust when you can't win with them?
In all honesty, most likely mbauers is Cole.
Focus on him. Try to convince everyone to vote him off.
if I was cole, I would have already tried to kill DF since he is the one who is holding his cards close to his chest...I think he knows that a BHer is after him.
But that is just me....
You all said it yourself.
3 members of the Trust who can't be NKed
1 person who wins with the trust
2-3 members of a mafia
1 person who Pax and others says is Cole and is a BHer who is looking for the Trust
4-5 members of the town left
You targeting me because you think I am mafia or that you think I am Cole?
Cause if I am mafia, then it doesn't matter if I live or die because we assume since Trust members cannot die at night, that they don't have anything to do with the mafia win condition and why would the mafia even both with you or the Trust.
If it is because I am Cole, why would the Town waste a day trying to go after me since Cole is out to get the trust, NOT the Town?
BTW, I am not either...I am Town trying to figure out if I need to treat the Trust as an outed Cult or not. Cauze the Trust needs the Town to vote out the BHer (assuming the mafia can't kill him...would be too easy for the Trust to have a NK immunity and the BHer not to have that) and the mafia needs the Trust to help them vote out Townies.
So again, the Trust shouldn't be voting for anyone unless they think it is Cole, and even then, the Trust should be trying to convince the Town on why voting out a non-scum member is a good thing for the Town.
It's easier and simpler than that.
I'm voting for you because you're using the Trust as a means of distraction, and thus accomplishing next to nothing in the day.
Eliminate you, eliminate the distraction.
If someone can dispute my logic, I welcome it!
But don't just vote for me because I am making sense and I want to win from a TOWN perspective. This is like Survivor and right now Trust, you don't have the numbers.
The Town has the numbers.
PaxZRake
03/08/2011, 16:42
Your numbers assume that I believe Get_1, which, I don't.
However, you seem very Cole like.
Granted, you are correct in that the only reason for me to vote for you is to gain the trust of the Trust, so I probably won't until then.
If someone can dispute my logic, I welcome it!
But don't just vote for me because I am making sense and I want to win from a TOWN perspective. This is like Survivor and right now Trust, you don't have the numbers.
The Town has the numbers.
Is it just me or does this post---^ sound extremely...mafia-y?
Yup. Definitely mafia-y.
PaxZRake
03/08/2011, 16:43
So Pax, you will vote out a Town member (cause I am not Cole....) and side with the Trust when you can't win with them?
In all honesty, most likely mbauers is Cole.
Focus on him. Try to convince everyone to vote him off.
if I was cole, I would have already tried to kill DF since he is the one who is holding his cards close to his chest...I think he knows that a BHer is after him.
But that is just me....
How do you know I can't win with the Trust?
It's easier and simpler than that.
I'm voting for you because you're using the Trust as a means of distraction, and thus accomplishing next to nothing in the day.
Eliminate you, eliminate the distraction.
I think I have accomplished a lot. We have established a second alignment that may or may not impede the Town, sorry if that ruins your game.
I wouldn't have spent this much time if DF had been upfront about this 24 hours ago. HE had something to hide.
And as I said, you don't win with the Town, so while you think of it as a distraction, I think of it how do I advance myself in this game....aka, not listening to you, DF, CJ, and Deadshot.
That leaves me a lot more room to figure out WHO to trust/listen to.
So my apologies if my game is ruining your game...
No you haven't. :tired:
The Trust has been known since Post #1. If I'm reading correctly, they also verified they were all neutral on Day 1. That already implied a separate win condition.
Nothing new today.
How do you know I can't win with the Trust?
I don't - if you can win with the trust and they have 5 members,, the town has 4-5 members, and the mafia has 2-3 members.
Just changes the numbers. So go ahead and vote for me if you don't have a Town win condition. Whatever to advance your own game.
And as I said, you don't win with the Town, so while you think of it as a distraction, I think of it how do I advance myself in this game....aka, not listening to you, DF, CJ, and Deadshot.
That leaves me a lot more room to figure out WHO to trust/listen to.
So my apologies if my game is ruining your game...
Also, this is something I told you to do hours ago. Remember?
You're thinking about this the completely wrong way. At this point, I think you should focus more on the remaining non-Trust players. Knowing that the Trust is neutral and don't really target at night automatically knocks down 4 people (3 Trust, and 1 me) from your list of potential scum. So you've only got 8 people to go through.
You fixating on the Trust when you could instead look at the remaining 8 convinces me you're deflecting onto the elephant in the room.
Vote: MSU
No you haven't. :tired:
The Trust has been known since Post #1. If I'm reading correctly, they also verified they were all neutral on Day 1. That already implied a separate win condition.
Nothing new today.
No, it didn't. It didn't imply anything. Neutral doesn't imply a separate win condition. There are pro town neutrals and anti town neutrals.
I honestly was trying to figure out what it all meant.
DF was the coy one that dragged this all out.
Go ahead and vote for me get - I honestly don't care if I get lynched because it will show that the Trust is anti-town and hopefully the town will get rid of you.
If the Trust wants to work with the town and win the game, they should focus on outing the mafia.
Since I am Coochie and not mafia, I fail to understand how a vote on me is going to solve anything.
So my apologies if I ruined the Trust's game by actually....I don't know...TALKING during a 48 hour phase when NO ONE ELSE was contributing to a game.
PaxZRake
03/08/2011, 16:48
I don't - if you can win with the trust and they have 5 members,, the town has 4-5 members, and the mafia has 2-3 members.
Just changes the numbers. So go ahead and vote for me if you don't have a Town win condition. Whatever to advance your own game.
Yea, it's your insistence that the Town and the Trust can't win together is what throws me.
I don't really care about Cole winning, as it doesn't benefit me.
You may as well just honestly claim and give a strong argument.
Also, this is something I told you to do hours ago. Remember?
Not when DF refused to tell me if he could win with the Town or not.
That is when I started getting the prickles...whether or not the Trust could take out Town members.
When I said that all I needed is what CJ said, honestly, that is what I wanted to hear! Some honesty!
Yea, it's your insistence that the Town and the Trust can't win together is what throws me.
I don't really care about Cole winning, as it doesn't benefit me.
You may as well just honestly claim and give a strong argument.
I already did - Vanilla, Coochie....I worked with Wylie or something. Haven't read the story but the name sticks out.
Yea, it's your insistence that the Town and the Trust can't win together is what throws me.
I don't really care about Cole winning, as it doesn't benefit me.
You may as well just honestly claim and give a strong argument.
I only insisted when DF refused to answer my question on whether he could iwn with us or not....his silence/ignore made me think they couldn't.
Check my posts.
A normal townie shouldn't worry nearly that much about the Trust. Especially because they're already out there in the open since the beginning of the game. It's like buffalo and moose grazing in the same field.
SCUM, however, would take any opportunity to spread paranoia. And the Trust being out there and supposedly unkillable provides the perfect scapegoat for that.
You behavior falls solidly into the latter.
A normal townie shouldn't worry nearly that much about the Trust. Especially because they're already out there in the open since the beginning of the game. It's like buffalo and moose grazing in the same field.
Tell me why the bolded section should be true since we knew NOTHING about the trust or their win condition before this day began?
This is a JoH game...i bet you dbauera didn't think he had anything to worry about when he claimed in game 1 or 3 and I took him out as a BHer?
the mafia didn't have nightkills in game 2...just an itchy vigilante who made all the wrong moves. Is that normal?
Hence, I am not sure what to think and I am trying to get it all out...would you rather I stay quiet and we go hours without anything?
If you have something to go on with scum, please enlighten us....
If you have something to go on with scum, please enlighten us....
You'd be a good place to start, since you're so jumpy.
You'd be a good place to start, since you're so jumpy.
Already claimed, already said I was vanilla and a guy named Coochie.
You'd be a good place to start, since you're so jumpy.
You also didn't answer my question...but thanks for ignoring it.
I didn't remember reading a non-rhetorical question within that litany of emotion.
Buffalo should buffalo, and let the moose meese.
I didn't remember reading a non-rhetorical question within that litany of emotion.
Buffalo should buffalo, and let the moose meese.
So you are ignoring the question which made me go after the Trust to which you are basing your lynch off me?
Tell me why the bolded section should be true since we knew NOTHING about the trust or their win condition before this day began?
Again, you are basing that I should be lynched because I questioned someone with an alternate win condition than mine.
Like that has never happened before....
coyotejack
03/08/2011, 20:21
But you have restrictions you can't share with us?
See DF..that is all I needed to know.
Thank you CJ...for being at least more helpful than DF was.
I have no restrictions.
coyotejack
03/08/2011, 20:27
Wow dude, you just love to paint a target on us, don'cha? :tired:
I don't see how that paints a target on my back. I think cooperating is a good thing.
deadshot042
03/08/2011, 21:16
A normal townie shouldn't worry nearly that much about the Trust. Especially because they're already out there in the open since the beginning of the game. It's like buffalo and moose grazing in the same field.
Am I a buffalo or a moose?
coyotejack
03/08/2011, 22:14
Am I a buffalo or a moose?
I think you're a buffalo and I'm a moose because I'm Trust and in Alaska. :grin:
deadshot042
03/08/2011, 22:38
I think you're a buffalo and I'm a moose because I'm Trust and in Alaska. :grin:
Now that I think about it... If you could see my character, I doubt you'd be saying anything besides "fox".
I don't see how that paints a target on my back. I think cooperating is a good thing.
I honestly meant it when I said thanks to CJ...being coy and hiding stuff is why I started going after DF. His posting behavior. You guys have nothing to worry about at night and if there is a Bher, he has a 1/3 chance of hitting the right person (IF there is a BHer...).
Jackofhearts2005
03/08/2011, 23:07
Wolves eat moose right?
Jackofhearts2005
03/08/2011, 23:09
MSU (3): Dbauers, Get, Darq
Darq (1): MSU
Chi (1): Stranger
Mal (1): Pax
7 is majority. About 1.5 hours left.
MSU, you need to change your signature. It LIIIIIIIIIIIES. :tired:
Darq (3): MSU, Get, Darq
Chi (1): Stranger
Mal (1): Pax
MSU (1): Dbauers
7 is majority. About 2 hours left.
Did MSU steal Darq and my vote? That seems nefarious.
Just wanted to say sorry that I haven't been active and I will get caught up and participate more. I have been really busy at work lately.
Jackofhearts2005
03/08/2011, 23:25
Did MSU steal Darq and my vote? That seems nefarious.
Your eyes are playing tricks on you, my friend.
Jackofhearts2005
03/09/2011, 02:31
Day Two
Atlantic City
“Winner…thirteen black.”
“You’re letting it all ride?” the beautiful woman asked the blonde haired kid.
“That piss you off?”
“Not at all. I find your decisions amusing.”
The blonde kid’s phone rang. “Hello?”
“Benito?”
“Oh, hi. You in the air? You want me to meet you at the airport?”
“Actually, I’ve just arrived. I’m on my way to the hotel. Is everything in order?”
“I guess.”
“You guess or it is?”
“It is.”
“Good. See you soon.”
About a half hour later…
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“Wha?” Hank asked the man in the suit.
“The golden boy with the platinum hair." Cole told him. "Benito Medici. Room thirty-eight twelve.”
Day 2 ends without a lynch. Night 2 starts now and lasts until midnight central on Thursday at the latest.
Jackofhearts2005
03/09/2011, 22:22
Night 2
El Paso
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“Like a pull, Miss Champagne?”
“A little early isn’t it?”
“Is it? I don got no watch. But I’m up and it’s my day off so it must be beer o’clock.”
“You just gonna drink all day?”
“I get my way, I am. Care to join me?”
“You haven’t even told me your name.”
“Yeah an I’m doin all right. Why #### it up?” An old volkswagon came up the road. “Besides, that’s what he’s for.”
“Whad’ya say there guy?” the driver asked as he got out of the car.
“I say ‘get lost’ Doctor Dan.”
“What? We got work to do. Say ain’t this the ruca that…”
“Watch yourself, Danny boy. Don wanna end up like your ex associate.”
“I bet I could take her.”
“Better take me instead” Wylie said, getting up from his chair. “Wake me up mañana, Diz. We’ll pick up where we left off.”
“Where you goin?”
“Juaritos. Me an the doc are bullfighters.”
“Bullfighters?” Dizzy wondered aloud as the car drove off.
Her friend came out onto the balcony to smoke a cigarette. “More like bull####ers.”
___________________________________________
Atlantic City
The blonde kid and the beautiful woman stayed at the casino until two more members of the Trust arrived.
“Mia! How are you, darling?”
“Mrs. Simone.”
“Mia, Benito.” The older woman told him. “You’re not a child anymore.”
“What?” Megan laughed. “No one told me.”
“Daniel and I were just going to dinner. There’s this little seafood place with the most delightful shrimp you’ll ever have! You have to come with us.”
“Why don’t we just have it brought to the hotel?”
“Because we’d miss the atmosphere. There’s nothing real about this place. It’s so manufactured.”
“Your father. Do you think he’d like to join us?”
“Nah. He’s up in his room” the blonde kid told the larger man.
“Preparing for tomorrow?”
“Manufacturing.”
________________________________________
El Paso
“What’s this?” Wylie asked Emilo as the Mexican gave him a piece of paper.
“Address. Boy you lookin fo. Goes by ‘Choochie.’”
“That’s a funny name.”
“Ain’t nothin funny bout im. He’s hairy, ####in loco.”
“####in loco hairy Choochie…”
“Listen, Hopper. Your boy ####s this job up, it’s on you.”
“What if I #### it up?”
“That’s on you, too.”
“So we better not #### it up, right?”
“Got that right, genius.”
Night Two ends with no deaths. Day three begins now and lasts until midnight on Friday. 12 players left makes 7 for majority.
deadshot042
03/09/2011, 22:27
This is going nowhere fast. Who was RB'd or JK'd last night?
Jackofhearts2005
03/09/2011, 22:39
This is going nowhere fast.
You can always lynch somebody. :cheeky:
This is going nowhere fast. Who was RB'd or JK'd last night?
Or doctored.....
Of the mafia doesn't have to make kills and someone else killed SL (and the mafia just has to last until a certain night).
Or they can only make kills on every other night (I had that in a game).
1) Deadshot - Trust, cannot be lynched
2) MSU - strangely handsome fella, vanilla, Town, Coochie
3) Darq - Trust, cannot be lynched
4) Stranger - Claimed Angela, vanilla (?) and Town
5) Dbauers - has vendetta against MSU, is shady and should be gotten rid of immediately before he harms MSU (:p)
6) Get1 (briefly DocDoom187) - neutral and wins with the Trust
7) Mbauers - no idea
8) Pbdeberry - has one posting
9) Coyotejack - Trust and unlynchable
10) Chirocker - claimed vanilla, not gonna get anything from him because of RL
11) PaxZRake - Nothing
12) Malakim - even more nothing
Did I sum everything up that we learned in one day?
DarqFeonix
03/09/2011, 23:03
Dude, we can totally be lynched.
Lynch: mbauers
Dude, we can totally be lynched.
Lynch: mbauers
My bad...yeah, I know that/...meant to say unnightkillable...I'll repost
As soon as I hit post I was like....noooooo....dummy.
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